bob60
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 7:28:12 GMT 1, Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved? An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more.
Thanks, what is a PP?
Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved? An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more. Thanks, what is a PP?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 7:49:30 GMT 1, An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more. Thanks, what is a PP?
Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue..
An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more. Thanks, what is a PP? Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue..
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bob60
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 8:01:34 GMT 1, Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue..
Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk.
Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk.
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E9Boy
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 8:23:44 GMT 1, Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk.
There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice..
Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk. There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice..
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bob60
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 9:11:58 GMT 1, Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk. There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice..
Thanks. Are you in Hackney?
Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk. There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice.. Thanks. Are you in Hackney?
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E9Boy
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 9:27:02 GMT 1, There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice.. Thanks. Are you in Hackney?
Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀
There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice.. Thanks. Are you in Hackney? Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jan 23, 2022 10:00:16 GMT 1, Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue..
I hate to say you are correct, dedicated prints and APs tend to be worth less as they are usually gifts and their is a reluctance in the market to pay full price for these.
APs generally will be worth more as there is a perceived rarity and more so ones where their is colour variations. Festival is the one that springs to mind where the colours vary tremendously in the series and some have runs in the colour and others are without blindstamps etc. These are genuine proofs.
PPs are printers proofs and are given to the print house. They are not dedicated and usually there are 3-6 depending on the print run size. They very rarely seem to turn up.
Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. I hate to say you are correct, dedicated prints and APs tend to be worth less as they are usually gifts and their is a reluctance in the market to pay full price for these. APs generally will be worth more as there is a perceived rarity and more so ones where their is colour variations. Festival is the one that springs to mind where the colours vary tremendously in the series and some have runs in the colour and others are without blindstamps etc. These are genuine proofs. PPs are printers proofs and are given to the print house. They are not dedicated and usually there are 3-6 depending on the print run size. They very rarely seem to turn up.
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bob60
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 12:16:33 GMT 1, Thanks. Are you in Hackney? Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 We are neighbours, I am in E8...
Thanks. Are you in Hackney? Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 We are neighbours, I am in E8...
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E9Boy
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 12:21:34 GMT 1, Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 We are neighbours, I am in E8...
Small world, I’m in Vicky Pk..
Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 We are neighbours, I am in E8... Small world, I’m in Vicky Pk..
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by artlover264538 on Mar 6, 2022 13:57:24 GMT 1, The New Now auction at Phillips looks very promising. Some really amazing artist!
www.phillips.com/auctions/auction/NY010122
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Wearology
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Wearology on Mar 6, 2022 15:04:39 GMT 1, Which artists are you referring to? Thanks This auction is offering a large amount of works created by living artists that many collectors covet, but have been denied access to on the primary market. This is finally an opportunity to bid on artworks by what many experts consider the unicorns of the art world.
Which artists are you referring to? Thanks This auction is offering a large amount of works created by living artists that many collectors covet, but have been denied access to on the primary market. This is finally an opportunity to bid on artworks by what many experts consider the unicorns of the art world.
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Wearology
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Wearology on Mar 6, 2022 15:21:10 GMT 1, I don't sell art at auction. Sarah Slappey, Angeles Agrela & Nina Chanel Abney are 3. Primary Unicorns in 2022.
I don't sell art at auction. Sarah Slappey, Angeles Agrela & Nina Chanel Abney are 3. Primary Unicorns in 2022.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by nobokov on Mar 6, 2022 16:01:47 GMT 1, This thread sounds like an advertisement.
This thread sounds like an advertisement.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by moron on Mar 7, 2022 13:33:48 GMT 1, """ Matthew Girling, the former CEO of Bonhams, a competing auction house, told The Art Newspaper that people should boycott Phillips over its Russian links. Phillips is owned by Mercury Group, which is Russia’s largest luxury-goods company. It was founded in 1993 by Russian entrepreneurs Leonid Fridlyand and Leonid Strunin, who are reportedly close to Putin """"
""" Hall, whose collection of more than 5,000 pieces includes noted works by Ed Ruscha, Barbara Kruger and Julian Schnabel, told The Post he bought something from Christie’s – another competing auction house – on Wednesday, but wouldn’t buy from Phillips.
Girling, the former Bonham’s CEO, said that “only a boycott” would get the attention of the owners of Mercury to hopefully influence Putin to change his current chosen course of action.”
“We have seen how the world of banking, travel, leisure, sport and culture have responded to the crisis,” he told The Art Newspaper. “Can the art market simply ignore it and carry on as normal?” """
"""" Meanwhile, Hall said that even if people didn’t want to boycott Phillips for moral reasons, practical reasons should stop people from placing bids: the risk is that Phillips’ accounts could be frozen and consignors find they don’t see their sales proceeds.
“Phillips runs a good operation, but so did German companies during WWII who were intimately involved with the Nazis,” Hall wrote on his Instagram account. “Will art buyers … show solidarity with Ukraine or will the art world display its usual hypocrisy?” """
nypost.com/2022/03/02/art-collectors-call-for-boycott-of-russian-owned-phillips-auction-house/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated
PHILLIPS AUCTIONEERS LIMITED
Accounts overdue
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04228373
"""Rolex’s billionaire Russian partners embroiled in calls for boycott"""
""" Rolex, Audemars Piguet and Patek Philippe said they would not comment when asked by WATCHPRO about their position on Russian invasion of Ukraine. """
""" Phillips accounts for around one third of the £400 million spent on luxury watches at auction in 2021, a record year for the sector."""
www.watchpro.com/rolexs-billionaire-russian-partners-embroiled-in-calls-for-boycott-of-phillips-auction-house/
""" Matthew Girling, the former CEO of Bonhams, a competing auction house, told The Art Newspaper that people should boycott Phillips over its Russian links. Phillips is owned by Mercury Group, which is Russia’s largest luxury-goods company. It was founded in 1993 by Russian entrepreneurs Leonid Fridlyand and Leonid Strunin, who are reportedly close to Putin """" """ Hall, whose collection of more than 5,000 pieces includes noted works by Ed Ruscha, Barbara Kruger and Julian Schnabel, told The Post he bought something from Christie’s – another competing auction house – on Wednesday, but wouldn’t buy from Phillips.
Girling, the former Bonham’s CEO, said that “only a boycott” would get the attention of the owners of Mercury to hopefully influence Putin to change his current chosen course of action.”
“We have seen how the world of banking, travel, leisure, sport and culture have responded to the crisis,” he told The Art Newspaper. “Can the art market simply ignore it and carry on as normal?” """"""" Meanwhile, Hall said that even if people didn’t want to boycott Phillips for moral reasons, practical reasons should stop people from placing bids: the risk is that Phillips’ accounts could be frozen and consignors find they don’t see their sales proceeds.
“Phillips runs a good operation, but so did German companies during WWII who were intimately involved with the Nazis,” Hall wrote on his Instagram account. “Will art buyers … show solidarity with Ukraine or will the art world display its usual hypocrisy?” """nypost.com/2022/03/02/art-collectors-call-for-boycott-of-russian-owned-phillips-auction-house/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicatedPHILLIPS AUCTIONEERS LIMITEDAccounts overduefind-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04228373"""Rolex’s billionaire Russian partners embroiled in calls for boycott"""""" Rolex, Audemars Piguet and Patek Philippe said they would not comment when asked by WATCHPRO about their position on Russian invasion of Ukraine. """ """ Phillips accounts for around one third of the £400 million spent on luxury watches at auction in 2021, a record year for the sector.""" www.watchpro.com/rolexs-billionaire-russian-partners-embroiled-in-calls-for-boycott-of-phillips-auction-house/
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Sunny Garcia on Mar 7, 2022 14:35:50 GMT 1, Christies/Sothebys/Phillips are all starting to look like eBay! 🥴
Christies/Sothebys/Phillips are all starting to look like eBay! 🥴
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Sunny Garcia on Mar 7, 2022 17:19:14 GMT 1, Which artists are you referring to? Thanks This auction is offering a large amount of works created by living artists that many collectors covet, but have been denied access to on the primary market. This is finally an opportunity to bid on artworks by what many experts consider the unicorns of the art world. Yes, the artists mentioned are some of the hottest at the moment, but the works are older and far inferior to today's works. These results should not be any indication of "current" market value for many of them (Bas, Gomez, Ness, Gribbon, Chapline, Park, Slappey, Nava etc...).
Which artists are you referring to? Thanks This auction is offering a large amount of works created by living artists that many collectors covet, but have been denied access to on the primary market. This is finally an opportunity to bid on artworks by what many experts consider the unicorns of the art world. Yes, the artists mentioned are some of the hottest at the moment, but the works are older and far inferior to today's works. These results should not be any indication of "current" market value for many of them (Bas, Gomez, Ness, Gribbon, Chapline, Park, Slappey, Nava etc...).
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by pollz66 on Apr 5, 2022 10:14:49 GMT 1, Anyone interested in supporting the people of Ukraine should avoid dealing with Phillips auction house.
Phillips is owned by two Russian oligarchs, Leonid Fridlyand and Leonid Strunin.
They own the Mercury Group which is one of the biggest companies in Russia.
Anyone interested in supporting the people of Ukraine should avoid dealing with Phillips auction house.
Phillips is owned by two Russian oligarchs, Leonid Fridlyand and Leonid Strunin.
They own the Mercury Group which is one of the biggest companies in Russia.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by 1nkling on Apr 5, 2022 10:34:20 GMT 1, Small correction. Leonid Fridlyand and Leonid Friedland are the same person.
Its owned by Leonid Fridlyand (Friedland) and Leonid Strunin.
Small correction. Leonid Fridlyand and Leonid Friedland are the same person.
Its owned by Leonid Fridlyand (Friedland) and Leonid Strunin.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by DAVID HOCKNEY on Apr 5, 2022 10:39:55 GMT 1, Boycotting Phillips is low down on my list of things to help the Ukrainian people
Boycotting Phillips is low down on my list of things to help the Ukrainian people
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jimini Cricket on Apr 5, 2022 13:14:29 GMT 1, Would y'all sell your Tvorogov Brother paintings because they is Rooskis?
Would y'all sell your Tvorogov Brother paintings because they is Rooskis?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by state on Apr 5, 2022 13:21:50 GMT 1, Would y'all sell your Tvorogov Brother paintings because they is Rooskis?
Checkmate
Would y'all sell your Tvorogov Brother paintings because they is Rooskis? Checkmate
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by nikos76 on Apr 5, 2022 13:47:14 GMT 1, Psaki it's you?
Psaki it's you?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Viennese on Apr 5, 2022 15:10:34 GMT 1, Just because some people can’t differentiate doesn’t mean we should not. This is not about Russian-owned/Russian-related companies or Tchaikovsky, this is about people who keep a cleptocratic system running by being an integral part of it while filling their pockets with obscene amounts of money while most of Russians live in poverty.
Just because some people can’t differentiate doesn’t mean we should not. This is not about Russian-owned/Russian-related companies or Tchaikovsky, this is about people who keep a cleptocratic system running by being an integral part of it while filling their pockets with obscene amounts of money while most of Russians live in poverty.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Mass on Apr 5, 2022 15:10:55 GMT 1, They made a significant donation of all fees from a recent auction to the Ukraine aid fund.
They made a significant donation of all fees from a recent auction to the Ukraine aid fund.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Criminal Mischief on Apr 5, 2022 16:30:22 GMT 1, You literally thought the two different spellings of the guy's name was two different people, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
You literally thought the two different spellings of the guy's name was two different people, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jonas B on Apr 5, 2022 17:10:30 GMT 1, Just because some people can’t differentiate doesn’t mean we should not. This is not about Russian-owned/Russian-related companies or Tchaikovsky, this is about people who keep a cleptocratic system running by being an integral part of it while filling their pockets with obscene amounts of money while most of Russians live in poverty. Sounds like many governments around the world. And some very much closer to home.
Just because some people can’t differentiate doesn’t mean we should not. This is not about Russian-owned/Russian-related companies or Tchaikovsky, this is about people who keep a cleptocratic system running by being an integral part of it while filling their pockets with obscene amounts of money while most of Russians live in poverty. Sounds like many governments around the world. And some very much closer to home.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Modern Rembrandt on Apr 5, 2022 17:39:52 GMT 1, Would y'all sell your Tvorogov Brother paintings because they is Rooskis?
This 👆🏻
Would y'all sell your Tvorogov Brother paintings because they is Rooskis? This 👆🏻
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Viennese on Apr 5, 2022 18:18:31 GMT 1, Just because some people can’t differentiate doesn’t mean we should not. This is not about Russian-owned/Russian-related companies or Tchaikovsky, this is about people who keep a cleptocratic system running by being an integral part of it while filling their pockets with obscene amounts of money while most of Russians live in poverty. So are you claiming that the owners of Philips are an integral part of the Putin regime? If so, I would like to see some evidence to back that up.
I claim that they are part of a cleptocratic system that they profit off and thereby uphold. I don’t think you can acquire that much wealth in Russia without your hands in the state’s pockets (and also Putin’s blessing -even if implicit). There is a reason we speak of oligarchs and not “just” billionaires. The “Leonids” own the largest luxury retailer in Russia, you couldn’t have built that kind of empire without some “arrangements”. There is also information online that hints to corruption but I guess you could only call it that if there was a functioning, non-corrupt judiciary in Russia.
The Leonids are not on the sanctions list so whether Philipps should be boycotted, I am not sure. They have condemned the war and taken measures to help Ukraine. Though it’s easy to cop out once the suitcases are filled. It doesn’t however absolve them of the criticism of how they acquired their wealth in the first place. The point I am trying to make is that they should not be put in the same category as ordinary Russians that are being discriminated against.
Just because some people can’t differentiate doesn’t mean we should not. This is not about Russian-owned/Russian-related companies or Tchaikovsky, this is about people who keep a cleptocratic system running by being an integral part of it while filling their pockets with obscene amounts of money while most of Russians live in poverty. So are you claiming that the owners of Philips are an integral part of the Putin regime? If so, I would like to see some evidence to back that up. I claim that they are part of a cleptocratic system that they profit off and thereby uphold. I don’t think you can acquire that much wealth in Russia without your hands in the state’s pockets (and also Putin’s blessing -even if implicit). There is a reason we speak of oligarchs and not “just” billionaires. The “Leonids” own the largest luxury retailer in Russia, you couldn’t have built that kind of empire without some “arrangements”. There is also information online that hints to corruption but I guess you could only call it that if there was a functioning, non-corrupt judiciary in Russia. The Leonids are not on the sanctions list so whether Philipps should be boycotted, I am not sure. They have condemned the war and taken measures to help Ukraine. Though it’s easy to cop out once the suitcases are filled. It doesn’t however absolve them of the criticism of how they acquired their wealth in the first place. The point I am trying to make is that they should not be put in the same category as ordinary Russians that are being discriminated against.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Viennese on Apr 5, 2022 19:32:25 GMT 1, I claim that they are part of a cleptocratic system that they profit off and thereby uphold. I don’t think you can acquire that much wealth in Russia without your hands in the state’s pockets (and also Putin’s blessing -even if implicit). There is a reason we speak of oligarchs and not “just” billionaires. The “Leonids” own the largest luxury retailer in Russia, you couldn’t have built that kind of empire without some “arrangements”. There is also information online that hints to corruption but I guess you could only call it that if there was a functioning, non-corrupt judiciary in Russia. The Leonids are not on the sanctions list so whether Philipps should be boycotted, I am not sure. They have condemned the war and taken measures to help Ukraine. Though it’s easy to cop out once the suitcases are filled. It doesn’t however absolve them of the criticism of how they acquired their wealth in the first place. The point I am trying to make is that they should not be put in the same category as ordinary Russians that are being discriminated against. Sorry, but what you are saying simply doesn't have any logic to it. If the owners of Philips are in the pockets of Putin then why are they speaking out against the war in Ukraine and have even made large donations to Ukrainian charities? I think we can safely assume that that is NOT something that Putin is encouraging or even happy about. So yes, the owners of Phillips are being persecuted because they are Russians; not because they are funding Putin's regime (which they are not).
You are incorrectly rephrasing what I said. I said that they were and still are profiting off the corrupt system in Russia that Putin designed. I also said that I don’t believe they could have built the empire they built without certain arrangements (corruption, Putin’s consent etc). Now the world is starting to look at people that got obscenely rich after the dissolution of the USSR. So for those that think they can (that have most or enough of their assets outside of Russia and maybe not matter enough to be in fear for their lives) it’s not a genius move to now distance oneself from the war and Putin in order to not lose business everywhere except in Russia.
Considering also how art lends itself to laundering money I can see why this is an especially sensitive area.
I claim that they are part of a cleptocratic system that they profit off and thereby uphold. I don’t think you can acquire that much wealth in Russia without your hands in the state’s pockets (and also Putin’s blessing -even if implicit). There is a reason we speak of oligarchs and not “just” billionaires. The “Leonids” own the largest luxury retailer in Russia, you couldn’t have built that kind of empire without some “arrangements”. There is also information online that hints to corruption but I guess you could only call it that if there was a functioning, non-corrupt judiciary in Russia. The Leonids are not on the sanctions list so whether Philipps should be boycotted, I am not sure. They have condemned the war and taken measures to help Ukraine. Though it’s easy to cop out once the suitcases are filled. It doesn’t however absolve them of the criticism of how they acquired their wealth in the first place. The point I am trying to make is that they should not be put in the same category as ordinary Russians that are being discriminated against. Sorry, but what you are saying simply doesn't have any logic to it. If the owners of Philips are in the pockets of Putin then why are they speaking out against the war in Ukraine and have even made large donations to Ukrainian charities? I think we can safely assume that that is NOT something that Putin is encouraging or even happy about. So yes, the owners of Phillips are being persecuted because they are Russians; not because they are funding Putin's regime (which they are not). You are incorrectly rephrasing what I said. I said that they were and still are profiting off the corrupt system in Russia that Putin designed. I also said that I don’t believe they could have built the empire they built without certain arrangements (corruption, Putin’s consent etc). Now the world is starting to look at people that got obscenely rich after the dissolution of the USSR. So for those that think they can (that have most or enough of their assets outside of Russia and maybe not matter enough to be in fear for their lives) it’s not a genius move to now distance oneself from the war and Putin in order to not lose business everywhere except in Russia. Considering also how art lends itself to laundering money I can see why this is an especially sensitive area.
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