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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Georgie Poppit on Jan 21, 2022 11:42:16 GMT 1, Just need Forum to come along now and undo the Phillips results
Just need Forum to come along now and undo the Phillips results
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Graham H on Jan 21, 2022 12:10:22 GMT 1, That CYW seems cheap ( if £160k for a piece of paper can be described as such!)
Also, I think the Hessink was Dec 21 not 20..so maybe a typo
That CYW seems cheap ( if £160k for a piece of paper can be described as such!)
Also, I think the Hessink was Dec 21 not 20..so maybe a typo
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jan 21, 2022 19:39:07 GMT 1, That CYW seems cheap ( if £160k for a piece of paper can be described as such!) Also, I think the Hessink was Dec 21 not 20..so maybe a typo
I only put December 2020 for Hessinks but thank you it was 21st 😁✌️🙏
That CYW seems cheap ( if £160k for a piece of paper can be described as such!) Also, I think the Hessink was Dec 21 not 20..so maybe a typo The CYW seems to be at the lower end of "normal"...they seem to be in the £150k-180K range for the majority of the 25 series colours. I only put December 2020 for Hessinks but thank you it was 21st 😁✌️🙏 |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 21, 2022 23:32:43 GMT 1, Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved?
Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Majestic on Jan 21, 2022 23:48:48 GMT 1, Where's the guy who said the banksy market was tanking?
Where's the guy who said the banksy market was tanking?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Majestic on Jan 22, 2022 0:15:44 GMT 1, Where's the guy who said the banksy market was tanking? was it you
...busted...
Where's the guy who said the banksy market was tanking? was it you ...busted... |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Atelier on Jan 22, 2022 4:06:55 GMT 1, Hockney is getting really solid numbers
Hockney is getting really solid numbers
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 22, 2022 7:14:42 GMT 1, What about KERBOOM!! guy, he suddenly disappeared a while back.
What about KERBOOM!! guy, he suddenly disappeared a while back.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by crooky13 on Jan 22, 2022 10:14:21 GMT 1, Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks!
Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks!
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by sixftjellybaby on Jan 22, 2022 10:18:45 GMT 1, The 15k on the currency was the hammer price and that was yesterday. I was watching it Yeah it's marked up now at £18,900 that's with fees
The 15k on the currency was the hammer price and that was yesterday. I was watching it Yeah it's marked up now at £18,900 that's with fees i dont really understand how it works so maybe a silly question but how much would the seller take home? |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Lazarus II on Jan 22, 2022 10:30:23 GMT 1, Yeah it's marked up now at £18,900 that's with fees i dont really understand how it works so maybe a silly question but how much would the seller take home?
a seller will usually get a high percentage (circa 90%) of the hammer price which is the price when the auction finishes. If the seller is a good customer or has something nice / special to sell then a seller might get the full hammer price.
Yeah it's marked up now at £18,900 that's with fees i dont really understand how it works so maybe a silly question but how much would the seller take home? a seller will usually get a high percentage (circa 90%) of the hammer price which is the price when the auction finishes. If the seller is a good customer or has something nice / special to sell then a seller might get the full hammer price. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by gd79 on Jan 22, 2022 10:53:08 GMT 1, There are some auctions I look at where the fees can reach 40%. Hammer fee, ARR, VAT on that etc.
So if it hammers at £1k:
Buyer pays £1400
Seller receives £850-1000
Quite the spread!
eBay's authentication service is an interesting move for them to take more of this regional auction action. The spread is dramatically tighter. It mainly applies to watches and bags at the moment, but if it was extended into prints etc it would be useful
I'll probably buy my next watch from eBay as a result, try out the service.
There are some auctions I look at where the fees can reach 40%. Hammer fee, ARR, VAT on that etc.
So if it hammers at £1k:
Buyer pays £1400
Seller receives £850-1000
Quite the spread!
eBay's authentication service is an interesting move for them to take more of this regional auction action. The spread is dramatically tighter. It mainly applies to watches and bags at the moment, but if it was extended into prints etc it would be useful
I'll probably buy my next watch from eBay as a result, try out the service.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Fuzzyduck121 on Jan 22, 2022 12:30:09 GMT 1, Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks!
Yeah it’s tanked ages ago and never really bounced back. Most stuff unless it has a penguin on it hovers above cost these days for recent releases and at auction that would mean taking a loss
Also manifold are a horrific bunch that aren’t doing him any favours at all
Also he’s run out of ideas
Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks! Yeah it’s tanked ages ago and never really bounced back. Most stuff unless it has a penguin on it hovers above cost these days for recent releases and at auction that would mean taking a loss Also manifold are a horrific bunch that aren’t doing him any favours at all Also he’s run out of ideas |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Hubble Bubble on Jan 22, 2022 14:00:55 GMT 1, Hockney is getting really solid numbers
Hockney’s print market has been steadily rising over the past three years or so.
Hockney is getting really solid numbers Hockney’s print market has been steadily rising over the past three years or so. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by artlife11 on Jan 22, 2022 14:39:56 GMT 1, Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks!
Anyone know what the ‘Thought After....’ print sold for in the auction
Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks! Anyone know what the ‘Thought After....’ print sold for in the auction |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by crooky13 on Jan 22, 2022 17:40:02 GMT 1, Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks! Yeah it’s tanked ages ago and never really bounced back. Most stuff unless it has a penguin on it hovers above cost these days for recent releases and at auction that would mean taking a loss Also manifold are a horrific bunch that aren’t doing him any favours at all Also he’s run out of ideas
Haha…appreciate the frank answer! Makes me feel less bad about dropping out of the bidding. Maybe one day I’ll get one with a Penguin at release for first tier pricing 😂
Any insights on the HM market? These seemed to come in quite low or is that particular to these images? Thanks! Yeah it’s tanked ages ago and never really bounced back. Most stuff unless it has a penguin on it hovers above cost these days for recent releases and at auction that would mean taking a loss Also manifold are a horrific bunch that aren’t doing him any favours at all Also he’s run out of ideas Haha…appreciate the frank answer! Makes me feel less bad about dropping out of the bidding. Maybe one day I’ll get one with a Penguin at release for first tier pricing 😂 |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Modern Art Collector on Jan 22, 2022 18:08:04 GMT 1, Bought a hirst spots in it; think I got it just under market value, but only just - it’s quite intoxicating as a process, and hard to calculate the fees in the moment!
Couldn’t believe the prices that the blue heni butterflies went for - mad
Bought a hirst spots in it; think I got it just under market value, but only just - it’s quite intoxicating as a process, and hard to calculate the fees in the moment!
Couldn’t believe the prices that the blue heni butterflies went for - mad
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jan 23, 2022 0:43:03 GMT 1, Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved?
An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more.
Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved? An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 7:28:12 GMT 1, Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved? An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more.
Thanks, what is a PP?
Would the fact that the Kate is an AP made much of a difference on the price achieved? An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more. Thanks, what is a PP? |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 7:49:30 GMT 1, An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more. Thanks, what is a PP?
Printers proof.
I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less..
I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue..
An AP seems in general to be worth 20% on top of the signed price in most cases. GWB and LIITA are different as particularly with GWB they are worth up to twice the signed price. PPs are worth the same if not a little more. Thanks, what is a PP? Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 8:01:34 GMT 1, Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue..
Ah ok thanks.
I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price.
I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk.
Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 8:23:44 GMT 1, Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk.
There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice..
Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk. There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice.. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 9:11:58 GMT 1, Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk. There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice..
Thanks.
Are you in Hackney?
Ah ok thanks. I'm thinking of maybe selling something and trying to work out a realistic price. I'm thinking that a gallery would be less of a risk. There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice.. Thanks. Are you in Hackney? |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 9:27:02 GMT 1, There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice.. Thanks. Are you in Hackney?
Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀
There are others here with far more knowledge than me, definitely worth asking for advice.. Thanks. Are you in Hackney? Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jan 23, 2022 10:00:16 GMT 1, Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue..
I hate to say you are correct, dedicated prints and APs tend to be worth less as they are usually gifts and their is a reluctance in the market to pay full price for these.
APs generally will be worth more as there is a perceived rarity and more so ones where their is colour variations. Festival is the one that springs to mind where the colours vary tremendously in the series and some have runs in the colour and others are without blindstamps etc. These are genuine proofs.
PPs are printers proofs and are given to the print house. They are not dedicated and usually there are 3-6 depending on the print run size. They very rarely seem to turn up.
Printers proof. I’ve got a dedicated AP and was told it was worth less.. I’m not sure there’s much difference in value unless image is changed from main issue.. I hate to say you are correct, dedicated prints and APs tend to be worth less as they are usually gifts and their is a reluctance in the market to pay full price for these. APs generally will be worth more as there is a perceived rarity and more so ones where their is colour variations. Festival is the one that springs to mind where the colours vary tremendously in the series and some have runs in the colour and others are without blindstamps etc. These are genuine proofs. PPs are printers proofs and are given to the print house. They are not dedicated and usually there are 3-6 depending on the print run size. They very rarely seem to turn up. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by bob60 on Jan 23, 2022 12:16:33 GMT 1, Thanks. Are you in Hackney? Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 
Thanks. Are you in Hackney? Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 We are neighbours, I am in E8... |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by E9Boy on Jan 23, 2022 12:21:34 GMT 1, Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 We are neighbours, I am in E8...
Small world, I’m in Vicky Pk..
Yes, username bit of a giveaway..😀 We are neighbours, I am in E8... Small world, I’m in Vicky Pk.. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by artlover264538 on Mar 6, 2022 13:57:24 GMT 1, The New Now auction at Phillips looks very promising. Some really amazing artist!
www.phillips.com/auctions/auction/NY010122
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Wearology on Mar 6, 2022 15:04:39 GMT 1, Which artists are you referring to? Thanks
Which artists are you referring to? Thanks This auction is offering a large amount of works created by living artists that many collectors covet, but have been denied access to on the primary market. This is finally an opportunity to bid on artworks by what many experts consider the unicorns of the art world. |
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