quinn
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by quinn on Feb 27, 2022 22:52:07 GMT 1, nothing to do with being open minded Iโm afraid. He ripped people of for his own indulgence. Imagine for a second it was you or a family member who bought one of these and lost their savings. Heโs done his time and learned absolutely f u ck all as far as I can see. No remorse whatsoever. u can surmise that from a handful of his posts? after the typical UAA attack dogs started 2 comment 2 him taking the piss out of it? look at his opening statement, his first postsโฆ. letting u know exactly who he was, what he did, then immediately pointing out hirst fakes selling right this very minute that wouldโve fooled most hereโฆ. heโs contributing more 2 UAA in 2 days than most have in 2yrsโฆ. prove me wrong. and insofar as โwhat if it was u?โ thatโs a weak argument, cause anybody that paid 10,20,100k for a piece of art, will ABSOLUTELY b fine without that money.
Yes I can thanks for asking. Heโs contributed nothing as far as I can see. Thereโs a lot of good knowledgeable members here that Iโve always found helpful. And Itโs not a weak argument itโs a valid point. And to say that someone who paid 10k plus for a piece of art wonโt miss it then Iโm sorry but your wrong. Iโve given this more time than I have cared to now thereโs no need to reply.
nothing to do with being open minded Iโm afraid. He ripped people of for his own indulgence. Imagine for a second it was you or a family member who bought one of these and lost their savings. Heโs done his time and learned absolutely f u ck all as far as I can see. No remorse whatsoever. u can surmise that from a handful of his posts? after the typical UAA attack dogs started 2 comment 2 him taking the piss out of it? look at his opening statement, his first postsโฆ. letting u know exactly who he was, what he did, then immediately pointing out hirst fakes selling right this very minute that wouldโve fooled most hereโฆ. heโs contributing more 2 UAA in 2 days than most have in 2yrsโฆ. prove me wrong. and insofar as โwhat if it was u?โ thatโs a weak argument, cause anybody that paid 10,20,100k for a piece of art, will ABSOLUTELY b fine without that money. Yes I can thanks for asking. Heโs contributed nothing as far as I can see. Thereโs a lot of good knowledgeable members here that Iโve always found helpful. And Itโs not a weak argument itโs a valid point. And to say that someone who paid 10k plus for a piece of art wonโt miss it then Iโm sorry but your wrong. Iโve given this more time than I have cared to now thereโs no need to reply. |
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moron
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 27, 2022 23:03:05 GMT 1, I donโt think we should be encouraging forgers to be part of the forum. He is not welcome.
ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released?
I donโt think we should be encouraging forgers to be part of the forum. He is not welcome. What about people on that forum that are involved in hyping art they they are involved in. Shill bidding it up to give a fake impression of value and then dumping it on forum members? ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released? |
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STP
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by STP on Feb 27, 2022 23:03:32 GMT 1, really? Heโs a con man. Dress it up whatever way you want, but If you were one of the people who purchased one of these then would you still be thinking like this? So what we need his knowledge now? And his witty stories of how he found it so easy to fleece people? Piss off! Banksy used to be a drug dealer
really? Heโs a con man. Dress it up whatever way you want, but If you were one of the people who purchased one of these then would you still be thinking like this? So what we need his knowledge now? And his witty stories of how he found it so easy to fleece people? Piss off! Banksy used to be a drug dealer Was he selling fake drugs? |
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moron
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 27, 2022 23:05:40 GMT 1, Would Tinder Swindler be OK to join this site?
Would Tinder Swindler be OK to join this site?
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by Acme Thunderer on Feb 27, 2022 23:10:53 GMT 1, I donโt think we should be encouraging forgers to be part of the forum. He is not welcome. ย What about people on that forum that are involved in hyping art they they are involved in. Shill bidding it up to give a fake impression of value and then dumping it on forum members? ย ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released?
I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple
I donโt think we should be encouraging forgers to be part of the forum. He is not welcome. ย What about people on that forum that are involved in hyping art they they are involved in. Shill bidding it up to give a fake impression of value and then dumping it on forum members? ย ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released? I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple |
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moron
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 27, 2022 23:13:59 GMT 1, What about people on that forum that are involved in hyping art they they are involved in. Shill bidding it up to give a fake impression of value and then dumping it on forum members? ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released? I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple
But you are OK with West Country Prince ?
What about people on that forum that are involved in hyping art they they are involved in. Shill bidding it up to give a fake impression of value and then dumping it on forum members? ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released? I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple But you are OK with West Country Prince ? |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by Acme Thunderer on Feb 27, 2022 23:23:44 GMT 1, I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple But you are OK with West Country Prince ?
I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud.
WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail.
However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud.
Hopefully this helps explain the difference.
I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple But you are OK with West Country Prince ? I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud. WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail. However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud. Hopefully this helps explain the difference. |
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moron
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 27, 2022 23:38:10 GMT 1, But you are OK with West Country Prince ? I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud. WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail. However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud. Hopefully this helps explain the difference.
Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's.
They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive.
The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds.
The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does.
But you are OK with West Country Prince ? I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud. WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail. However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud. Hopefully this helps explain the difference. Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's. They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive. The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds. The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does. |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by Acme Thunderer on Feb 27, 2022 23:56:39 GMT 1, I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud. WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail. However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud. Hopefully this helps explain the difference. Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's. They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive. The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds. The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does.
I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so please donโt go round in circles.
The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other.
Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations.
I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud. WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail. However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud. Hopefully this helps explain the difference. Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's. They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive. The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds. The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does. I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so please donโt go round in circles. The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other. Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations. |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by That Print Guy on Feb 28, 2022 1:30:42 GMT 1, I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so pleaseย donโt go round in circles. The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other. Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations. โthis forum is built on people trusting each otherโ  ? am i the only 1 that has read the multiple threads from people being scammed here? of โgoodโ or once โtrustedโ forum members jumping the shark then robbing people? of the several examples of yโall threatening each other with physical violence, talking about each otherโs wives, kids even? what trust? really tell meโฆ. besides a ever vanishing group of a couple dozen members here, who stands by their name? identifies themselves clearly without using a smoker or duplicate account? how many have a picture of them up? how many arenโt hiding behind their keyboards? dude joins up, tells u exactly who he is n what he did, itโs all checkable, n his face is all over different places, thatโs 10x better 2 me than most here, regardless of his pastโฆ. the shady way most UAA members operate, from fake accounts 2 silent auctions 2 saying things u most def donโt have the balls 2 say whilst looking another man in his eyes makes most of yโall hypocrites at best n sociopaths at worstโฆ. iโd take a know evil anyday over a wolf in sheeps clothing like most of u pretenders. ๐ช๐ป
that's all about as true as the pearl clutching claims from 80's mothers that listening to black Sabbath will make you kill yourself. Don't you have a DARE meeting to get to?
I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so pleaseย donโt go round in circles. The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other. Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations. โthis forum is built on people trusting each otherโ ? am i the only 1 that has read the multiple threads from people being scammed here? of โgoodโ or once โtrustedโ forum members jumping the shark then robbing people? of the several examples of yโall threatening each other with physical violence, talking about each otherโs wives, kids even? what trust? really tell meโฆ. besides a ever vanishing group of a couple dozen members here, who stands by their name? identifies themselves clearly without using a smoker or duplicate account? how many have a picture of them up? how many arenโt hiding behind their keyboards? dude joins up, tells u exactly who he is n what he did, itโs all checkable, n his face is all over different places, thatโs 10x better 2 me than most here, regardless of his pastโฆ. the shady way most UAA members operate, from fake accounts 2 silent auctions 2 saying things u most def donโt have the balls 2 say whilst looking another man in his eyes makes most of yโall hypocrites at best n sociopaths at worstโฆ. iโd take a know evil anyday over a wolf in sheeps clothing like most of u pretenders. ๐ช๐ป that's all about as true as the pearl clutching claims from 80's mothers that listening to black Sabbath will make you kill yourself. Don't you have a DARE meeting to get to? |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by Coach on Feb 28, 2022 1:31:51 GMT 1, I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so pleaseย donโt go round in circles. The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other. Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations. โthis forum is built on people trusting each otherโ ? am i the only 1 that has read the multiple threads from people being scammed here? of โgoodโ or once โtrustedโ forum members jumping the shark then robbing people? of the several examples of yโall threatening each other with physical violence, talking about each otherโs wives, kids even? what trust? really tell meโฆ. besides a ever vanishing group of a couple dozen members here, who stands by their name? identifies themselves clearly without using a smoker or duplicate account? how many have a picture of them up? how many arenโt hiding behind their keyboards? dude joins up, tells u exactly who he is n what he did, itโs all checkable, n his face is all over different places, thatโs 10x better 2 me than most here, regardless of his pastโฆ. the shady way most UAA members operate, from fake accounts 2 silent auctions 2 saying things u most def donโt have the balls 2 say whilst looking another man in his eyes makes most of yโall hypocrites at best n sociopaths at worstโฆ. iโd take a know evil anyday over a wolf in sheeps clothing like most of u pretenders. ๐ช๐ป
โThe shady way most UAA members operate...โ
I think โmostโ is wrong.
I think a significant majority are honest.
Over many years that has been my experience.
I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so pleaseย donโt go round in circles. The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other. Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations. โthis forum is built on people trusting each otherโ ? am i the only 1 that has read the multiple threads from people being scammed here? of โgoodโ or once โtrustedโ forum members jumping the shark then robbing people? of the several examples of yโall threatening each other with physical violence, talking about each otherโs wives, kids even? what trust? really tell meโฆ. besides a ever vanishing group of a couple dozen members here, who stands by their name? identifies themselves clearly without using a smoker or duplicate account? how many have a picture of them up? how many arenโt hiding behind their keyboards? dude joins up, tells u exactly who he is n what he did, itโs all checkable, n his face is all over different places, thatโs 10x better 2 me than most here, regardless of his pastโฆ. the shady way most UAA members operate, from fake accounts 2 silent auctions 2 saying things u most def donโt have the balls 2 say whilst looking another man in his eyes makes most of yโall hypocrites at best n sociopaths at worstโฆ. iโd take a know evil anyday over a wolf in sheeps clothing like most of u pretenders. ๐ช๐ป โThe shady way most UAA members operate...โ I think โmostโ is wrong. I think a significant majority are honest. Over many years that has been my experience. |
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Wisconinla
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by Wisconinla on Feb 28, 2022 1:59:39 GMT 1, โthis forum is built on people trusting each otherโ ? am i the only 1 that has read the multiple threads from people being scammed here? of โgoodโ or once โtrustedโ forum members jumping the shark then robbing people? of the several examples of yโall threatening each other with physical violence, talking about each otherโs wives, kids even? what trust? really tell meโฆ. besides a ever vanishing group of a couple dozen members here, who stands by their name? identifies themselves clearly without using a smoker or duplicate account? how many have a picture of them up? how many arenโt hiding behind their keyboards? dude joins up, tells u exactly who he is n what he did, itโs all checkable, n his face is all over different places, thatโs 10x better 2 me than most here, regardless of his pastโฆ. the shady way most UAA members operate, from fake accounts 2 silent auctions 2 saying things u most def donโt have the balls 2 say whilst looking another man in his eyes makes most of yโall hypocrites at best n sociopaths at worstโฆ. iโd take a know evil anyday over a wolf in sheeps clothing like most of u pretenders. ๐ช๐ป โThe shady way most UAA members operate...โ I think โmostโ is wrong. I think a significant majority are honest. Over many years that has been my experience.
Agreed. And if this is such a den of iniquity, why frequent it?
โthis forum is built on people trusting each otherโ ? am i the only 1 that has read the multiple threads from people being scammed here? of โgoodโ or once โtrustedโ forum members jumping the shark then robbing people? of the several examples of yโall threatening each other with physical violence, talking about each otherโs wives, kids even? what trust? really tell meโฆ. besides a ever vanishing group of a couple dozen members here, who stands by their name? identifies themselves clearly without using a smoker or duplicate account? how many have a picture of them up? how many arenโt hiding behind their keyboards? dude joins up, tells u exactly who he is n what he did, itโs all checkable, n his face is all over different places, thatโs 10x better 2 me than most here, regardless of his pastโฆ. the shady way most UAA members operate, from fake accounts 2 silent auctions 2 saying things u most def donโt have the balls 2 say whilst looking another man in his eyes makes most of yโall hypocrites at best n sociopaths at worstโฆ. iโd take a know evil anyday over a wolf in sheeps clothing like most of u pretenders. ๐ช๐ป โThe shady way most UAA members operate...โ I think โmostโ is wrong. I think a significant majority are honest. Over many years that has been my experience. Agreed. And if this is such a den of iniquity, why frequent it? |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by d.r. perseus on Feb 28, 2022 7:01:38 GMT 1, โThe shady way most UAA members operate...โ I think โmostโ is wrong. I think a significant majority are honest. Over many years that has been my experience. โmostโ mightโve been an overstatement, but i lurked here 4 years b4 i joined up, this place is totally different now imoโฆ. i shouldโve used the word โmanyโ instead of most probablyโฆ. that being said, 2 discount somebody after straight up telling u who/what he is/was, is more than some members have done here in all their years total on UAAโฆ. watching ppl attacking him n try n chase him away just reinforces my above statementโฆ. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
He isnโt here to inform us. He is here to grow his story. To continue to benefit from it. Paying your time for the crime just to monetize your story at release is the stench of ill repute. Time served. Nothing learned.
โThe shady way most UAA members operate...โ I think โmostโ is wrong. I think a significant majority are honest. Over many years that has been my experience. โmostโ mightโve been an overstatement, but i lurked here 4 years b4 i joined up, this place is totally different now imoโฆ. i shouldโve used the word โmanyโ instead of most probablyโฆ. that being said, 2 discount somebody after straight up telling u who/what he is/was, is more than some members have done here in all their years total on UAAโฆ. watching ppl attacking him n try n chase him away just reinforces my above statementโฆ. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ He isnโt here to inform us. He is here to grow his story. To continue to benefit from it. Paying your time for the crime just to monetize your story at release is the stench of ill repute. Time served. Nothing learned. |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by JockoLad on Feb 28, 2022 10:19:27 GMT 1, I think the thing that irritates me most about this thread is the incorrect spelling of โDamienโ (Damian) in the title.
I would like to think the OP was being ironic but I fear it is a simple reflection of their mental capacity.
I think the thing that irritates me most about this thread is the incorrect spelling of โDamienโ (Damian) in the title.
I would like to think the OP was being ironic but I fear it is a simple reflection of their mental capacity.
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klyde
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by klyde on Feb 28, 2022 12:25:30 GMT 1, I donโt think we should be encouraging forgers to be part of the forum. He is not welcome. He is more than just not welcome. He is bringing this forum in to disrepute. I wonder if there are any police monitoring this thread?
Haha what?
Do you really think the police would give a flying fuck about this?
Seriously?
I donโt think we should be encouraging forgers to be part of the forum. He is not welcome. He is more than just not welcome. He is bringing this forum in to disrepute. I wonder if there are any police monitoring this thread? Haha what? Do you really think the police would give a flying fuck about this? Seriously? |
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klyde
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by klyde on Feb 28, 2022 12:37:43 GMT 1, Just embarrassing yourself now.
Just embarrassing yourself now.
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moron
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 28, 2022 14:14:14 GMT 1, Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's. They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive. The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds. The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does. I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so please donโt go round in circles. The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other. Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations.
WCP makes unauthorised copies. Using the word's Copies and reproductions implies that they are authorised authorised.
Where's the slander? You are very vague. Do you mean about Hirst exposing himself to women?
""" Late-night drinkers at Londonโs Groucho Club would often startle their more shockable friends by describing Damienโs party trick involving his genitals and a 50 pence piece. The artist eventually fell foul of the law after exposing himself in a bar โThis woman from Boston got upset and now sheโs suing me for $50,000.โ What precisely was she suing the artist for was the question, Hirst smiled. โToxic shock.โ""
www.artlyst.com/features/top-10-artists-behaving-badly/6/
Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's. They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive. The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds. The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does. I really donโt want to get into a debate about WCP, but on the legalities - WCP copies are legal due to no trademark by Banksy and being sold as copies (not originals). Hirst forgeries were illegal as being sold as originals therefore committing fraud. They are completely different. I donโt make the law, but that is what it is so please donโt go round in circles. The OP is a forger and I wouldnโt trust them. This forum is built on people trusting each other. Also, just some friendly advice (so please donโt take this the wrong way), another crime where people have gone to jail is โslanderโ so we should all be careful when making accusations. Trademark is nothing to do with copyright. Art is automatically protected by copyright when it is published and fixed in a tangible medium. WCP makes unauthorised copies. Using the word's Copies and reproductions implies that they are authorised authorised. Where's the slander? You are very vague. Do you mean about Hirst exposing himself to women? """ Late-night drinkers at Londonโs Groucho Club would often startle their more shockable friends by describing Damienโs party trick involving his genitals and a 50 pence piece. The artist eventually fell foul of the law after exposing himself in a bar โThis woman from Boston got upset and now sheโs suing me for $50,000.โ What precisely was she suing the artist for was the question, Hirst smiled. โToxic shock.โ""
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by sandinista on Feb 28, 2022 14:17:15 GMT 1, You're right. London is very quaint in a kind of historic, echoes-of-past-glory-now-gone kind of way. I should have just said America is the coolest place on earth. Drop us a line next time you need your ass saved from a European dictator. That just might be soon.
You rate your chances vs Russia, china and north korea yes?
You're right. London is very quaint in a kind of historic, echoes-of-past-glory-now-gone kind of way. I should have just said America is the coolest place on earth. Drop us a line next time you need your ass saved from a European dictator. That just might be soon. Yes you've done well in most wars without us...Vietnam, korea, iraq, aghanistan. They went well. You rate your chances vs Russia, china and north korea yes? |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 28, 2022 14:18:19 GMT 1, What about people on that forum that are involved in hyping art they they are involved in. Shill bidding it up to give a fake impression of value and then dumping it on forum members? ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released? I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple
What about people on that forum that are involved in hyping art they they are involved in. Shill bidding it up to give a fake impression of value and then dumping it on forum members? ps, would a murderer be allowed to join this forum if they have served their time in prison and been released? I donโt think an โart forgerโ should be welcomed on an โart forumโ. Simple But you have no problem with fake money where people were paying for drinks with fake tenner's made by Banksy. |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by sandinista on Feb 28, 2022 14:20:32 GMT 1, I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud. WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail. However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud. Hopefully this helps explain the difference. Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's. They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive. The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds. The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does.
I think you are missing the point. This person is an โart forgerโ who has made artwork with the intention of selling it as genuine, therefore committing fraud. WCP sold reproductions on eBay for ยฃ56 and said they are copies. Heโs not going to jail. However, if YOU bought a WCP and tried to sell it as a genuine Banksy then YOU would be convicted for fraud. Hopefully this helps explain the difference. Unless WCP has written authorisation from Banksy to reproduce his images. Then WCP sells counterfeit's. They are fakes and calling them copies is deceptive. The OP sold fake Hirst print's and was jailed for it. He done the crime and done the time. My view is that just like that Lenny Capro bloke in Catch Me If You Can movie. Who went from forging airline cheques to helping the airlines spot fake cheques and frauds. The OP is doing the same and giving people the benefit of his knowledge and prevent people buying fake Hirst prints and buy genuine prints. Altho on my part I would not buy any art produced by someone who has a history of exposing himself to women as Hirst does. There's a big difference between wcp selling prints and this guy. wcp doesn't sell as genuine, they have clear difference to identify them. Different conversation. |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by J0NNY on Feb 28, 2022 14:26:02 GMT 1, thatโs a weak argument, cause anybody that paid 10,20,100k for a piece of art, will ABSOLUTELY b fine without that money. The thing is, he operated when they were selling in the hundreds to low thousands so chances are at the time he was profiting it probably wasnโt the really well off people who were getting scammed. I myself ended up with one of his Opium prints, paid a couple grand which at the time was around market value and for me was a huge investment. Luckily for me the quality of the print was pretty poor so I immediately knew it was a fake, got my money back and I kept the print in my plans chest as a reminder.
thatโs a weak argument, cause anybody that paid 10,20,100k for a piece of art, will ABSOLUTELY b fine without that money. The thing is, he operated when they were selling in the hundreds to low thousands so chances are at the time he was profiting it probably wasnโt the really well off people who were getting scammed. I myself ended up with one of his Opium prints, paid a couple grand which at the time was around market value and for me was a huge investment. Luckily for me the quality of the print was pretty poor so I immediately knew it was a fake, got my money back and I kept the print in my plans chest as a reminder. |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by vincentlopreto on Feb 28, 2022 14:28:10 GMT 1, You are correct about the paperwork/COA being the main issue--NOT the art itself.
I'm working on a book and I've got a movie script I'm shopping. When that comes to fruition, I'll definitely look into your media suggestion. Thank you.
You are correct about the paperwork/COA being the main issue--NOT the art itself.
I'm working on a book and I've got a movie script I'm shopping. When that comes to fruition, I'll definitely look into your media suggestion. Thank you.
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by vincentlopreto on Feb 28, 2022 14:29:47 GMT 1, No they don't. Police could care less about art fraud.
No they don't. Police could care less about art fraud.
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by vincentlopreto on Feb 28, 2022 14:31:32 GMT 1, What was the email of this person you bought this artwork from? What art was it?
What was the email of this person you bought this artwork from? What art was it?
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by vincentlopreto on Feb 28, 2022 14:33:37 GMT 1, Poor people don't take money from savings to buy art. Only the wealthy buy art and that's with expendable income. All others are fools.
Poor people don't take money from savings to buy art. Only the wealthy buy art and that's with expendable income. All others are fools.
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 28, 2022 14:35:38 GMT 1, Just embarrassing yourself now. You obviously know nothing about how the police operate these days. They regularly monitor websites and what criminals are posting. Your ignorance is embarrassing.
The members on here who are actually dealers hiding their real identity and pretend that they are just individuals who post for sales threads on a regular basis of quite expensive art. Is not hard for the tax man to go through their forum sales history and make an estimation as to how much money they turned over.
The seller's on here selling Banksy print's that they have not registered in their own names in order to not leave an ownership trail and who demand full or part payment in cash.
The people on here who post publicly that to avoid custom's charges , get the artist or seller to declare a low value on the art they are sending. Can get the seller into a lot of trouble with the IRS and tax man as well as the Customs and Excise people.
The police have absolutely zero interest in any person who is convicted of a crime and served their sentence who decides to speak publicly about what they did. Even to promote themselves and write and publish a book about their exploit's.
I thought that this forum was all about free speech not censorship. For some reason it feels like some on here do not want people to know about the Hirst etc fake print's out there still in circulation and the fact that some dealer's have or are ripping off potential investor's.
Look at all the fake Dali and other print's sold on cruise ship auction's for thousands.
Talking about making money from art theft and fraud. You might like this article.
There are some very big art crooks out there and the biggest ones are the so called art authenticator's who authenticate fake art that they own as authentic. Wildenstein, Gauguin was exposed a few years ago. Maya and Claude Picasso were arrested in Spain a few years ago.
The art world dealers galleries auction houses do not make all of this public. For an obvious reason.
How about the recent sale of the Salvator Mundi painting that was sold as by Da Vinci. Was that genuine or was it a fake and was it fraud?
www.3ammagazine.com/3am/stuck-inn-xi-the-art-damien-hirst-stole/
Just embarrassing yourself now. You obviously know nothing about how the police operate these days. They regularly monitor websites and what criminals are posting. Your ignorance is embarrassing. Not forgetting the UK tax and vat man and the US IRS. The members on here who are actually dealers hiding their real identity and pretend that they are just individuals who post for sales threads on a regular basis of quite expensive art. Is not hard for the tax man to go through their forum sales history and make an estimation as to how much money they turned over. The seller's on here selling Banksy print's that they have not registered in their own names in order to not leave an ownership trail and who demand full or part payment in cash. The people on here who post publicly that to avoid custom's charges , get the artist or seller to declare a low value on the art they are sending. Can get the seller into a lot of trouble with the IRS and tax man as well as the Customs and Excise people. The police have absolutely zero interest in any person who is convicted of a crime and served their sentence who decides to speak publicly about what they did. Even to promote themselves and write and publish a book about their exploit's. I thought that this forum was all about free speech not censorship. For some reason it feels like some on here do not want people to know about the Hirst etc fake print's out there still in circulation and the fact that some dealer's have or are ripping off potential investor's. Look at all the fake Dali and other print's sold on cruise ship auction's for thousands. Talking about making money from art theft and fraud. You might like this article. There are some very big art crooks out there and the biggest ones are the so called art authenticator's who authenticate fake art that they own as authentic. Wildenstein, Gauguin was exposed a few years ago. Maya and Claude Picasso were arrested in Spain a few years ago. The art world dealers galleries auction houses do not make all of this public. For an obvious reason. How about the recent sale of the Salvator Mundi painting that was sold as by Da Vinci. Was that genuine or was it a fake and was it fraud? www.3ammagazine.com/3am/stuck-inn-xi-the-art-damien-hirst-stole/ |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by moron on Feb 28, 2022 14:37:39 GMT 1, Poor people don't take money from savings to buy art. Only the wealthy buy art and that's with expendable income. All others are fools. 
Poor people don't take money from savings to buy art. Only the wealthy buy art and that's with expendable income. All others are fools. Have you heard about the artist Blok. ? |
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by vincentlopreto on Feb 28, 2022 14:41:15 GMT 1, Would anybody like to contribute quotes for my book jacket?
Would anybody like to contribute quotes for my book jacket?
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by vincentlopreto on Feb 28, 2022 14:42:07 GMT 1, No, I have not. But I've been in prison the last few years.
No, I have not. But I've been in prison the last few years.
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I'm the Damian Hirst Fraudster, by sandinista on Feb 28, 2022 14:42:30 GMT 1, Poor people don't take money from savings to buy art. Only the wealthy buy art and that's with expendable income. All others are fools.
Poor people don't take money from savings to buy art. Only the wealthy buy art and that's with expendable income. All others are fools. not true. im sure some people have put life savings into art seeing they get nothing from the bank and see the rises in art. What is the point of your posts? seems to be some bad attempt at pr for something you are selling. |
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