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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Adam The Collector on May 3, 2023 22:33:02 GMT 1, Must say even though it's a very shiny photo, I like it. Can't wait to see mine.
Must say even though it's a very shiny photo, I like it. Can't wait to see mine.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on May 4, 2023 8:10:08 GMT 1, Good luck everyone trying to shift ( and ship ) these on the secondary market!
Good luck everyone trying to shift ( and ship ) these on the secondary market! Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by The Italian One on May 4, 2023 8:19:09 GMT 1, Good luck everyone trying to shift ( and ship ) these on the secondary market! Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home
Good luck everyone trying to shift ( and ship ) these on the secondary market! Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home those prints are already changing hands for double retail cost... fact |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Brittany's Urban on May 4, 2023 8:24:33 GMT 1, Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home those prints are already changing hands for double retail cost... fact
Would you mind sharing where you saw these editions being sold?
Thanks 
Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home those prints are already changing hands for double retail cost... fact I was curious on that point since I did not see any sale. Would you mind sharing where you saw these editions being sold? Thanks |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by The Italian One on May 4, 2023 8:45:21 GMT 1, those prints are already changing hands for double retail cost... fact I was curious on that point since I did not see any sale. Would you mind sharing where you saw these editions being sold? Thanks
shouldn't take much time to see one at auction
those prints are already changing hands for double retail cost... fact I was curious on that point since I did not see any sale. Would you mind sharing where you saw these editions being sold? Thanks private sales but shouldn't take much time to see one at auction |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Richy Rich on May 4, 2023 9:23:49 GMT 1, I was curious on that point since I did not see any sale. Would you mind sharing where you saw these editions being sold? Thanks private sales but shouldn't take much time to see one at auction
I was curious on that point since I did not see any sale. Would you mind sharing where you saw these editions being sold? Thanks private sales but shouldn't take much time to see one at auction So people are paying ยฃ6k ish when thereโs some available on eBay for ยฃ4.5k? |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by The Italian One on May 4, 2023 10:57:32 GMT 1, private sales but shouldn't take much time to see one at auction So people are paying ยฃ6k ish when thereโs some available on eBay for ยฃ4.5k?
3k usd on release
private sales but shouldn't take much time to see one at auction So people are paying ยฃ6k ish when thereโs some available on eBay for ยฃ4.5k? 5.5 k eu 3k usd on release |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Poster Bob on May 4, 2023 11:33:13 GMT 1, I wouldnโt put too much weight behind any talk of private sales at the moment. As always, theyโre not verifiable. These are guaranteed to appear in the fall auctions. Except to see them at least at Phillips. As someone who only bought a couple of Marilyn prints I am pretty optimistic, but the market right now is very poor.
I wouldnโt put too much weight behind any talk of private sales at the moment. As always, theyโre not verifiable. These are guaranteed to appear in the fall auctions. Except to see them at least at Phillips. As someone who only bought a couple of Marilyn prints I am pretty optimistic, but the market right now is very poor.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by maddoghoek100 on May 4, 2023 19:34:28 GMT 1, Good luck everyone trying to shift ( and ship ) these on the secondary market! Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home
i bought one to hang and think they are nice, but i have a hard time believing these are ever going to be all that desirable. These editions are 4x or more the size of prior editions on paper, so i still dont get it when folks talk about these as being small editions. Feels like these will be hard to turn a profit on after shipping and fees for years to come. Time will tell.
Good luck everyone trying to shift ( and ship ) these on the secondary market! Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home i bought one to hang and think they are nice, but i have a hard time believing these are ever going to be all that desirable. These editions are 4x or more the size of prior editions on paper, so i still dont get it when folks talk about these as being small editions. Feels like these will be hard to turn a profit on after shipping and fees for years to come. Time will tell. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by gus on May 4, 2023 20:18:11 GMT 1, They look cool. Big and heavy and shiny sounds great too tbh. Dont own one and cant afford to but from the guy with the huge yards photo would like to.
They look cool. Big and heavy and shiny sounds great too tbh. Dont own one and cant afford to but from the guy with the huge yards photo would like to.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Poster Bob on May 4, 2023 22:23:53 GMT 1, Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home i bought one to hang and think they are nice, but i have a hard time believing these are ever going to be all that desirable. These editions are 4x or more the size of prior editions on paper, so i still dont get it when folks talk about these as being small editions. Feels like these will be hard to turn a profit on after shipping and fees for years to come. Time will tell.
It will be very easy to turn a profit on these, some more than others.
Middle class people consideration. I think there wonโt be that many given the edition number and they might become very desirable for true collector and size and shipment is not a problem when you have money. Itโs even a kind of rรฉason to get them. More generally, itโs a thing for people living in big cities. In Paris, London or NYC, secondary market is never an issue, shipment is always a 15 euros Uber course from your home i bought one to hang and think they are nice, but i have a hard time believing these are ever going to be all that desirable. These editions are 4x or more the size of prior editions on paper, so i still dont get it when folks talk about these as being small editions. Feels like these will be hard to turn a profit on after shipping and fees for years to come. Time will tell. It will be very easy to turn a profit on these, some more than others. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by maddoghoek100 on May 5, 2023 0:04:08 GMT 1, I suppose I am being a bit flip, if you get hit with 13% eBay fees, plus packing materials, and shipping I'm sure you can make a few hundred dollars. But it is also a heck of a lot of hassle. Sake of argument you are shipping international from the US, just the time to do the paperwork to get the ITN number for export and I am out. That price point over 2500 makes it a real pain in the butt.
I suppose I am being a bit flip, if you get hit with 13% eBay fees, plus packing materials, and shipping I'm sure you can make a few hundred dollars. But it is also a heck of a lot of hassle. Sake of argument you are shipping international from the US, just the time to do the paperwork to get the ITN number for export and I am out. That price point over 2500 makes it a real pain in the butt.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Londown 01 on May 5, 2023 5:58:29 GMT 1,
As usual, this is a f*'#ing disappointment. The first ones have arrived and we don't hear anything about the works themselves. Only your baseless conjectures about some profit to be made.
As usual, this is a f*'#ing disappointment. The first ones have arrived and we don't hear anything about the works themselves. Only your baseless conjectures about some profit to be made.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on May 5, 2023 6:22:26 GMT 1, As usual, this is a f*'#ing disappointment. The first ones have arrived and we don't hear anything about the works themselves. Only your baseless conjectures about some profit to be made.
As usual, this is a f*'#ing disappointment. The first ones have arrived and we don't hear anything about the works themselves. Only your baseless conjectures about some profit to be made. These are honnest points of views, from people who did not have time to hang it on the wall yet. By the way, how do these things can be hung? I saw nothing for that on photos of the back (thanks ebay) |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Carcal on May 5, 2023 7:30:58 GMT 1, On the back there is a metal rail that allows you to hang everything very easily
On the back there is a metal rail that allows you to hang everything very easily
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by topper on May 5, 2023 9:11:56 GMT 1, Being so colourful (and shiney), I was thinking to get mine mounted in a Matt black floater frame.
Being so colourful (and shiney), I was thinking to get mine mounted in a Matt black floater frame.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Poster Bob on May 5, 2023 9:16:25 GMT 1, I suppose I am being a bit flip, if you get hit with 13% eBay fees, plus packing materials, and shipping I'm sure you can make a few hundred dollars. But it is also a heck of a lot of hassle. Sake of argument you are shipping international from the US, just the time to do the paperwork to get the ITN number for export and I am out. That price point over 2500 makes it a real pain in the butt.
Ebay fees arenโt 13%. Theyโre 10% with a foreign transaction fee of 2%, which is set to be scrapped. Monthly promotions are regularly available, reducing the 10% fee by 70-80%, or sometimes to just ยฃ1. But clearly youโre in the US so you may pay different prices, but Iโm sure there are also promotions available to you. I only post items when a promotion is available; the savings are enormous. Packing and shipping is charged to the buyer. Iโd encourage anyone with these to hold onto them as opposed to sell them for a quick flip. The real profit is in waiting for them to achieve their potential, which should take 1-2 years and a series of good results via in-season auctions.
I suppose I am being a bit flip, if you get hit with 13% eBay fees, plus packing materials, and shipping I'm sure you can make a few hundred dollars. But it is also a heck of a lot of hassle. Sake of argument you are shipping international from the US, just the time to do the paperwork to get the ITN number for export and I am out. That price point over 2500 makes it a real pain in the butt. Ebay fees arenโt 13%. Theyโre 10% with a foreign transaction fee of 2%, which is set to be scrapped. Monthly promotions are regularly available, reducing the 10% fee by 70-80%, or sometimes to just ยฃ1. But clearly youโre in the US so you may pay different prices, but Iโm sure there are also promotions available to you. I only post items when a promotion is available; the savings are enormous. Packing and shipping is charged to the buyer. Iโd encourage anyone with these to hold onto them as opposed to sell them for a quick flip. The real profit is in waiting for them to achieve their potential, which should take 1-2 years and a series of good results via in-season auctions. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Brittany's Urban on May 5, 2023 9:22:37 GMT 1, I have received mine and was pleased on how it looks!
I had read many negative comments here and there (lots of them here)...
And I think they will look nice on the wall if people avoid direct sunlight (which is pretty standard anyway).
I was wondering on how to attach it to the wall and found some advice on Discord.
Most people are considering to use "French cleat".
Few more days to wait for the French cleat and it will soon be on the wall and enjoyed.
Hope to see many picture of theses on the walls!
I have received mine and was pleased on how it looks!
I had read many negative comments here and there (lots of them here)...
And I think they will look nice on the wall if people avoid direct sunlight (which is pretty standard anyway).
I was wondering on how to attach it to the wall and found some advice on Discord.
Most people are considering to use "French cleat".
Few more days to wait for the French cleat and it will soon be on the wall and enjoyed.
Hope to see many picture of theses on the walls!
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by its all about me on May 5, 2023 10:20:42 GMT 1, i bought one to hang and think they are nice, but i have a hard time believing these are ever going to be all that desirable. These editions are 4x or more the size of prior editions on paper, so i still dont get it when folks talk about these as being small editions. Feels like these will be hard to turn a profit on after shipping and fees for years to come. Time will tell. It will be very easy to turn a profit on these, some more than others.
i bought one to hang and think they are nice, but i have a hard time believing these are ever going to be all that desirable. These editions are 4x or more the size of prior editions on paper, so i still dont get it when folks talk about these as being small editions. Feels like these will be hard to turn a profit on after shipping and fees for years to come. Time will tell. It will be very easy to turn a profit on these, some more than others. There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Poster Bob on May 5, 2023 10:51:03 GMT 1, It will be very easy to turn a profit on these, some more than others. There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever.
The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years.
It will be very easy to turn a profit on these, some more than others. There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Acme Thunderer on May 5, 2023 11:02:56 GMT 1, There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years.
There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. โฆfor small editions of prints on paper |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Poster Bob on May 5, 2023 11:06:49 GMT 1, The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. โฆfor small editions of prints on paper
The most important things are image quality, the signature, and size. Just wait for the fall results. Theyโll be positive.
The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. โฆfor small editions of prints on paper The most important things are image quality, the signature, and size. Just wait for the fall results. Theyโll be positive. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stuckeyc on May 5, 2023 11:20:19 GMT 1, Is it only the Camouflage that has gone out? I can't wait to get my Marilyn
Is it only the Camouflage that has gone out? I can't wait to get my Marilyn
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Acme Thunderer on May 5, 2023 11:22:39 GMT 1, โฆfor small editions of prints on paper The most important things are image quality, the signature, and size. Just wait for the fall results. Theyโll be positive.
I love Invader (buying my first in 2005) but like others were left completely underwhelmed.
After a few years they might be a little positive, but the Invader collectors wonโt be queuing up.
โฆfor small editions of prints on paper The most important things are image quality, the signature, and size. Just wait for the fall results. Theyโll be positive. The actual problem was the image quality, size and signature sticker on the back. I love Invader (buying my first in 2005) but like others were left completely underwhelmed. After a few years they might be a little positive, but the Invader collectors wonโt be queuing up. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by its all about me on May 5, 2023 12:40:49 GMT 1, There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years.
There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. It's absurd to compare his beautiful embossed prints with a shiny dibond which is basically just a photograph of an Invader rubics cube image. The two are miles apart. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by vinylcoholic on May 5, 2023 13:03:35 GMT 1, The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. It's absurd to compare his beautiful embossed prints with a shiny dibond which is basically just a photograph of an Invader rubics cube image. The two are miles apart.
The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. It's absurd to compare his beautiful embossed prints with a shiny dibond which is basically just a photograph of an Invader rubics cube image. The two are miles apart. Well depends on which one because the cube itself has always been a photo even on the orignal 70x70 print |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by its all about me on May 5, 2023 13:11:18 GMT 1, It's absurd to compare his beautiful embossed prints with a shiny dibond which is basically just a photograph of an Invader rubics cube image. The two are miles apart. Well depends on which one because the cube itself has always been a photo even on the orignal 70x70 print
If people think these Heni ones are going to go for the price of an older Invader print on paper, I suspect they are about to get a rude awakening.
It's absurd to compare his beautiful embossed prints with a shiny dibond which is basically just a photograph of an Invader rubics cube image. The two are miles apart. Well depends on which one because the cube itself has always been a photo even on the orignal 70x70 print Not sure what you mean by an "original 70X70 print" but what I was getting at is that I would pay a lot for an Invader embossed print on paper but I would only pay around 100 bucks for a Heni x Invader dibond. I hate the bloody things. And I suspect I'm not the only one. If people think these Heni ones are going to go for the price of an older Invader print on paper, I suspect they are about to get a rude awakening. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Fuzzyduck121 on May 5, 2023 13:19:16 GMT 1, There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years.
I havent had a deep dive on this but looks like recent results for alert, homeworks, rubiks kubrick/decent paper signed works are in the region of ยฃ3-5k before you pay your fees
Theres a tonne of these Henis sat about and the ones at 3995 on ebay arent getting offered on
probably sell for cost
I didnt buy one of these, mainly because I think they are shit, but as an owner of sveeral kits / works on paper I have an interest in his market, but these are just the facts
Bob may well be right to say hold for 2 years but only if alongside that timescale the entire market lifts, otherwise it wont make the chances of profiting on these any better than now, which is zero.
There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. The evidence would be Invaderโs market results for the last couple of years. isnt the invader auction market dead? I havent had a deep dive on this but looks like recent results for alert, homeworks, rubiks kubrick/decent paper signed works are in the region of ยฃ3-5k before you pay your fees Theres a tonne of these Henis sat about and the ones at 3995 on ebay arent getting offered on probably sell for cost I didnt buy one of these, mainly because I think they are shit, but as an owner of sveeral kits / works on paper I have an interest in his market, but these are just the facts Bob may well be right to say hold for 2 years but only if alongside that timescale the entire market lifts, otherwise it wont make the chances of profiting on these any better than now, which is zero. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Lunch Special on May 5, 2023 13:20:29 GMT 1, Thes e look great congrats to everyone who was able to obtain one. Iโm over it. Tbh. Itโs becoming too much. Iโd love to sell someone my Home Earth Moon Neptune and Mars embossed prints if anyone is interested.
Thes e look great congrats to everyone who was able to obtain one. Iโm over it. Tbh. Itโs becoming too much. Iโd love to sell someone my Home Earth Moon Neptune and Mars embossed prints if anyone is interested.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Matt on May 5, 2023 13:36:54 GMT 1, I havent had a deep dive on this but looks like recent results for alert, homeworks, rubiks kubrick/decent paper signed works are in the region of ยฃ3-5k before you pay your fees
More seminal prints (embossed, foil, low ed, classic invader) and kits are mostly listed still over 10k but don't know if sales are happening.
Regardless of value prediction, Heni prints were an easy pass for me ...no Invader collector is salivating over those
As for "paper works" in the 3-5kยฃ region, if by that you mean "works on paper" please let me know where because I will buy them !
I havent had a deep dive on this but looks like recent results for alert, homeworks, rubiks kubrick/decent paper signed works are in the region of ยฃ3-5k before you pay your fees The prints you list are admitedly not his best. More seminal prints (embossed, foil, low ed, classic invader) and kits are mostly listed still over 10k but don't know if sales are happening. Regardless of value prediction, Heni prints were an easy pass for me ...no Invader collector is salivating over those As for "paper works" in the 3-5kยฃ region, if by that you mean "works on paper" please let me know where because I will buy them ! |
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