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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by hdduyddfj on Oct 20, 2024 7:40:07 GMT 1, Does anyone have any info on an authentic edition of the pink background flying copper? Theres always been rumours of a signed ed in the 60s, Hang Up, banksy explained and Guy Hepner have it on the website as ed63 but the only versions I have seen is one in a youtube video of a B collector which had no border signature/edition number visible and the other image used by the galleries of a signed one with a border but no visible ed number. I messaged the YouTube chap to see if his is an authentic one or a backdoor but no reply.
I asked PC a number of years ago and was told there was one in Santa's ghetto used for display purposes but nothing about an ed63. You would think if there was an ed63 it would have popped up at least a few times over the years publicly.
Does anyone have an authentic ed63 pink or seen one in person?
Does anyone have any info on an authentic edition of the pink background flying copper? Theres always been rumours of a signed ed in the 60s, Hang Up, banksy explained and Guy Hepner have it on the website as ed63 but the only versions I have seen is one in a youtube video of a B collector which had no border signature/edition number visible and the other image used by the galleries of a signed one with a border but no visible ed number. I messaged the YouTube chap to see if his is an authentic one or a backdoor but no reply.
I asked PC a number of years ago and was told there was one in Santa's ghetto used for display purposes but nothing about an ed63. You would think if there was an ed63 it would have popped up at least a few times over the years publicly.
Does anyone have an authentic ed63 pink or seen one in person?
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Daniel Silk on Oct 20, 2024 8:14:17 GMT 1, Back in the day, at POW, they printed lots of Banksy images as test prints, different colours, prints on the back of prints, mirror paper! all sorts, I guess some were thrown away, stuck in a draw, given away to friends or sold off behind the scenes.
Does anyone have any info on an authentic edition of the pink background flying copper? Theres always been rumours of a signed ed in the 60s, Hang Up, banksy explained and Guy Hepner have it on the website as ed63 but the only versions I have seen is one in a youtube video of a B collector which had no border signature/edition number visible and the other image used by the galleries of a signed one with a border but no visible ed number. I messaged the YouTube chap to see if his is an authentic one or a backdoor but no reply. I asked PC a number of years ago and was told there was one in Santa's ghetto used for display purposes but nothing about an ed63. You would think if there was an ed63 it would have popped up at least a few times over the years publicly. Does anyone have an authentic ed63 pink or seen one in person?
Back in the day, at POW, they printed lots of Banksy images as test prints, different colours, prints on the back of prints, mirror paper! all sorts, I guess some were thrown away, stuck in a draw, given away to friends or sold off behind the scenes. Does anyone have any info on an authentic edition of the pink background flying copper? Theres always been rumours of a signed ed in the 60s, Hang Up, banksy explained and Guy Hepner have it on the website as ed63 but the only versions I have seen is one in a youtube video of a B collector which had no border signature/edition number visible and the other image used by the galleries of a signed one with a border but no visible ed number. I messaged the YouTube chap to see if his is an authentic one or a backdoor but no reply. I asked PC a number of years ago and was told there was one in Santa's ghetto used for display purposes but nothing about an ed63. You would think if there was an ed63 it would have popped up at least a few times over the years publicly. Does anyone have an authentic ed63 pink or seen one in person? |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Oct 20, 2024 8:15:13 GMT 1, $1500 bid for a Peckham Rock, I've got a few I'd be willing to sell at that price.
$1500 bid for a Peckham Rock, I've got a few I'd be willing to sell at that price.
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by hdduyddfj on Oct 20, 2024 8:19:59 GMT 1, Back in the day, at POW, they printed lots of Banksy images as test prints, different colours, prints on the back of prints, mirror paper! all sorts, I guess some were thrown away, stuck in a draw, given away to friends or sold off behind the scenes. Does anyone have any info on an authentic edition of the pink background flying copper? Theres always been rumours of a signed ed in the 60s, Hang Up, banksy explained and Guy Hepner have it on the website as ed63 but the only versions I have seen is one in a youtube video of a B collector which had no border signature/edition number visible and the other image used by the galleries of a signed one with a border but no visible ed number. I messaged the YouTube chap to see if his is an authentic one or a backdoor but no reply. I asked PC a number of years ago and was told there was one in Santa's ghetto used for display purposes but nothing about an ed63. You would think if there was an ed63 it would have popped up at least a few times over the years publicly. Does anyone have an authentic ed63 pink or seen one in person?
Back in the day, at POW, they printed lots of Banksy images as test prints, different colours, prints on the back of prints, mirror paper! all sorts, I guess some were thrown away, stuck in a draw, given away to friends or sold off behind the scenes. Does anyone have any info on an authentic edition of the pink background flying copper? Theres always been rumours of a signed ed in the 60s, Hang Up, banksy explained and Guy Hepner have it on the website as ed63 but the only versions I have seen is one in a youtube video of a B collector which had no border signature/edition number visible and the other image used by the galleries of a signed one with a border but no visible ed number. I messaged the YouTube chap to see if his is an authentic one or a backdoor but no reply. I asked PC a number of years ago and was told there was one in Santa's ghetto used for display purposes but nothing about an ed63. You would think if there was an ed63 it would have popped up at least a few times over the years publicly. Does anyone have an authentic ed63 pink or seen one in person? Yes thanks, I'm trying to work out if there's an ed63 as it's been advertised by multiple websites but never seen any confirmation |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by hdduyddfj on Oct 20, 2024 9:14:01 GMT 1, Thanks Dan. There's not really any confirmation aside from the one that was at Gantas grotto 2007 on display without a border. That's the one that was in the YouTube video. There's been a few claims of others but nothing concrete regarding an edition.
Thanks Dan. There's not really any confirmation aside from the one that was at Gantas grotto 2007 on display without a border. That's the one that was in the YouTube video. There's been a few claims of others but nothing concrete regarding an edition. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by mika on Oct 20, 2024 12:06:43 GMT 1, This is not a screenprint, but an image printed on photopaper
bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/565/lot/242263/banksy-flying-copper-pink-test-print
Artist: Banksy (British, b. 1974)
Title: Flying Copper (Pink)
Year: circa 2003
Medium: Inkjet on photo paper
An inkjet print of an alternate version of "Flying Copper" with more defined wings.
35 x 24 inches
Accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity from Steve Lazarides PROVENANCE From The Collection of Steve Lazarides
prints
Estimate:
$10000
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$20000
This is not a screenprint, but an image printed on photopaper bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/565/lot/242263/banksy-flying-copper-pink-test-printArtist: Banksy (British, b. 1974) Title: Flying Copper (Pink) Year: circa 2003 Medium: Inkjet on photo paperAn inkjet print of an alternate version of "Flying Copper" with more defined wings. 35 x 24 inches Accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity from Steve Lazarides PROVENANCE From The Collection of Steve Lazarides prints Estimate: $10000 - $20000 |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by hdduyddfj on Oct 20, 2024 12:33:23 GMT 1, Yeah, I'm more interested in the ed63 version with coa and whether it exists.
Yeah, I'm more interested in the ed63 version with coa and whether it exists.
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by 7star on Oct 20, 2024 12:54:33 GMT 1, This is not a screenprint, but an image printed on photopaper bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/565/lot/242263/banksy-flying-copper-pink-test-printArtist: Banksy (British, b. 1974) Title: Flying Copper (Pink) Year: circa 2003 Medium: Inkjet on photo paperAn inkjet print of an alternate version of "Flying Copper" with more defined wings. 35 x 24 inches Accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity from Steve Lazarides PROVENANCE From The Collection of Steve Lazarides prints Estimate: $10000 - $20000
This is not a screenprint, but an image printed on photopaper bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/565/lot/242263/banksy-flying-copper-pink-test-printArtist: Banksy (British, b. 1974) Title: Flying Copper (Pink) Year: circa 2003 Medium: Inkjet on photo paperAn inkjet print of an alternate version of "Flying Copper" with more defined wings. 35 x 24 inches Accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity from Steve Lazarides PROVENANCE From The Collection of Steve Lazarides prints Estimate: $10000 - $20000 Why are people buying this shite! It's not even a print but a photo of a print haha for 10-20k? It's preying on people who don't know what they are doing and it's obviously a money grab by Laz |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Daniel Silk on Oct 20, 2024 13:09:20 GMT 1,
This is not a screenprint, but an image printed on photopaper bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/565/lot/242263/banksy-flying-copper-pink-test-printArtist: Banksy (British, b. 1974) Title: Flying Copper (Pink) Year: circa 2003 Medium: Inkjet on photo paperAn inkjet print of an alternate version of "Flying Copper" with more defined wings. 35 x 24 inches Accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity from Steve Lazarides PROVENANCE From The Collection of Steve Lazarides prints Estimate: $10000 - $20000 Why are people buying this shite! It's not even a print but a photo of a print haha for 10-20k? It's preying on people who doesn't know what they are doing and it's obviously a money grab by Laz
This is not a screenprint, but an image printed on photopaper bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/565/lot/242263/banksy-flying-copper-pink-test-printArtist: Banksy (British, b. 1974) Title: Flying Copper (Pink) Year: circa 2003 Medium: Inkjet on photo paperAn inkjet print of an alternate version of "Flying Copper" with more defined wings. 35 x 24 inches Accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity from Steve Lazarides PROVENANCE From The Collection of Steve Lazarides prints Estimate: $10000 - $20000 Why are people buying this shite! It's not even a print but a photo of a print haha for 10-20k? It's preying on people who doesn't know what they are doing and it's obviously a money grab by Laz "Photo of a Print" where does it say that? |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by 7star on Oct 20, 2024 13:28:47 GMT 1, Inkjet on photo paper is a photo of a print no? Even if it's an official test or whatever ...... weren't the initial copper releases just silkscreens? So no proof whatever that Laz didn't just print out at least this lot ........
Inkjet on photo paper is a photo of a print no? Even if it's an official test or whatever ...... weren't the initial copper releases just silkscreens? So no proof whatever that Laz didn't just print out at least this lot ........
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by 7star on Oct 20, 2024 13:32:29 GMT 1, The little originals are beautiful and very much worth owning but all the prints are crap .... sorry but its true, imagine paying 20k for a print and keeping it on your wall for 10 years say and you need or want to sell it and you can't...... B is well known for keeping as much control as possible over his works ....... you think these will be officially recognised? Going on B's past form for picking and choosing what gets a COA, I don't think they will
The little originals are beautiful and very much worth owning but all the prints are crap .... sorry but its true, imagine paying 20k for a print and keeping it on your wall for 10 years say and you need or want to sell it and you can't...... B is well known for keeping as much control as possible over his works ....... you think these will be officially recognised? Going on B's past form for picking and choosing what gets a COA, I don't think they will
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Daniel Silk on Oct 20, 2024 13:59:51 GMT 1, Inkjet on photo paper is a photo of a print no? Even if it's an official test or whatever ...... weren't the initial copper releases just silkscreens? So no proof whatever that Laz didn't just print out at least this lot ........
Inkjet on photo paper is a photo of a print no? Even if it's an official test or whatever ...... weren't the initial copper releases just silkscreens? So no proof whatever that Laz didn't just print out at least this lot ........ No, just coz its an image printed on "Photo Paper" doesn't mean it's a photo. To me it's likely it was a digital image created on a computer, printed up on photo paper as a test, before creating the screen for the final print run. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by 7star on Oct 20, 2024 16:26:48 GMT 1, Inkjet on photo paper is a photo of a print no? Even if it's an official test or whatever ...... weren't the initial copper releases just silkscreens? So no proof whatever that Laz didn't just print out at least this lot ........ No, just coz its an image printed on "Photo Paper" doesn't mean it's a photo. To me it's likely it was a digital image created on a computer, printed up on photo paper as a test, before creating the screen for the final print run.
Inkjet on photo paper is a photo of a print no? Even if it's an official test or whatever ...... weren't the initial copper releases just silkscreens? So no proof whatever that Laz didn't just print out at least this lot ........ No, just coz its an image printed on "Photo Paper" doesn't mean it's a photo. To me it's likely it was a digital image created on a computer, printed up on photo paper as a test, before creating the screen for the final print run. Ah that makes sense! Forgive me, I'm happy to admit screenprint knowledge isn't my strong point haha ๐ the issue still is then whoever buys them, needs to have complete trust in Laz ...... |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Onket on Oct 21, 2024 9:51:17 GMT 1, You are really making the "New Threads" and "New Posts" buttons obsolete
You are really making the "New Threads" and "New Posts" buttons obsolete I agree. The constant spamming of threads with insta links, constant merging of threads and mysterious bumping of old threads for no obvious reason are not improving the day to day experience at all. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Lroy on Oct 21, 2024 10:00:16 GMT 1, $1500 bid for a Peckham Rock, I've got a few I'd be willing to sell at that price.
Art is not democratic at all. Itโs disgusting.
$1500 bid for a Peckham Rock, I've got a few I'd be willing to sell at that price. Thatโs what I said, they buy Lazarides, not Banksy., Art is not democratic at all. Itโs disgusting. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by loui on Oct 21, 2024 10:42:54 GMT 1, $1500 bid for a Peckham Rock, I've got a few I'd be willing to sell at that price. Thatโs what I said, they buy Lazarides, not Banksy., Art is not democratic at all. Itโs disgusting.
Many artists are OK. However, itโs hard to make a living from it. I guess therefore it makes some artists vulnerable to non ethical (read with very little integrity) powers. I donโt trust anyone in the art business who has an income above 20.000 quid net a year. I may not do justice to some artists this way but it does pretty much separate the wheat from the chaff I reckon.
$1500 bid for a Peckham Rock, I've got a few I'd be willing to sell at that price. Thatโs what I said, they buy Lazarides, not Banksy., Art is not democratic at all. Itโs disgusting. Many artists are OK. However, itโs hard to make a living from it. I guess therefore it makes some artists vulnerable to non ethical (read with very little integrity) powers. I donโt trust anyone in the art business who has an income above 20.000 quid net a year. I may not do justice to some artists this way but it does pretty much separate the wheat from the chaff I reckon. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by My Name is Frank on Oct 21, 2024 11:54:50 GMT 1, Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort.
Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort.
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by 18921892 on Oct 21, 2024 12:15:16 GMT 1, Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort.
Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort. It's also odd that the reserves are so high for these printers/backdoor/proofs. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Boy Wonder on Oct 21, 2024 13:01:20 GMT 1, Guy Hepner has my Bombhugger from The Basingstoke Gazette on his website. So I guess he just "lend" images to attract potential buyers to other works.
Guy Hepner has my Bombhugger from The Basingstoke Gazette on his website. So I guess he just "lend" images to attract potential buyers to other works.
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by The Italian One on Oct 21, 2024 14:08:02 GMT 1, people bidding on those unnumbered and unsigned print are aware that the value is the same of an unnumbered backdoor print?
I mean... I can pay 10 k for the Lazaride's one with all the documentation, then I can buy all the backdoor out on the market and keep selling the backdoor as the one bought from Lazarides with the same documentations as there will be nothing that can link the unnumbered print from the others.
people bidding on those unnumbered and unsigned print are aware that the value is the same of an unnumbered backdoor print?
I mean... I can pay 10 k for the Lazaride's one with all the documentation, then I can buy all the backdoor out on the market and keep selling the backdoor as the one bought from Lazarides with the same documentations as there will be nothing that can link the unnumbered print from the others.
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Matt on Oct 21, 2024 14:18:04 GMT 1, Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort.
this
Legit unsigned prints from legit auction houses getting less traction than this at the moment
smells fishy
Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort. this Legit unsigned prints from legit auction houses getting less traction than this at the moment smells fishy |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by sfnyc on Oct 21, 2024 15:35:26 GMT 1, The little originals are beautiful and very much worth owning but all the prints are crap .... sorry but its true, imagine paying 20k for a print and keeping it on your wall for 10 years say and you need or want to sell it and you can't...... B is well known for keeping as much control as possible over his works ....... you think these will be officially recognised? Going on B's past form for picking and choosing what gets a COA, I don't think they will
The little originals are beautiful and very much worth owning but all the prints are crap .... sorry but its true, imagine paying 20k for a print and keeping it on your wall for 10 years say and you need or want to sell it and you can't...... B is well known for keeping as much control as possible over his works ....... you think these will be officially recognised? Going on B's past form for picking and choosing what gets a COA, I don't think they will Word. There is a reason Lazarides is selling this with Julien's instead of a reputable auction house. No legit auction house would want to touch most of this stuff, and buying most of these items would be near impossible to resell with a top tier auction house either. Julien's is known for selling stolen and fake reproduced street pieces. Going to them speaks volumes about Lazarides integrity... |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by mojo on Oct 21, 2024 15:37:54 GMT 1, Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort. this Legit unsigned prints from legit auction houses getting less traction than this at the moment smells fishy
Seems obvious that shilling is going on, or maybe I'm just a distrusting sort. this Legit unsigned prints from legit auction houses getting less traction than this at the moment smells fishy With the exception of a few of the ephemera ie. show flyers & invites (even though some were originally just photocopied) I think most of it could legally be considered a breach of employment confidentiality. At the very least selling private personal notes and sketches, publishing invoices and emails from PC/Artist without consent is bad form. I can't see many artists clamouring to work with him after this. At the risk of turning it into a Cinderella story those worn out trainers are the wrong size and wouldn't fit Banksy, they're too small. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Majestic on Oct 21, 2024 16:50:29 GMT 1, State of the bidding ๐๐๐ญ
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by Lroy on Oct 23, 2024 9:38:18 GMT 1, I still did not had a look on Julien /Lazarides auctions catalog. Just the first pages. I donโt care a bit. Thatโs said.
NO SUCH THING AS GOOD PUBLICITY 
I still did not had a look on Julien /Lazarides auctions catalog. Just the first pages. I donโt care a bit. Thatโs said. NO SUCH THING AS GOOD PUBLICITY |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by inefficiency of on Oct 23, 2024 9:50:41 GMT 1, Just looked at this thread. Absolutely awful move from Laz. Whats the bloke thinking!!!!
Just looked at this thread. Absolutely awful move from Laz. Whats the bloke thinking!!!!
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by hdduyddfj on Oct 23, 2024 11:28:56 GMT 1, Just looked at this thread. Absolutely awful move from Laz. Whats the bloke thinking!!!!
The big question is will he cross that line and sell the photos at auction. There's no way to sugar coat it, if there's clear identifiable images of the artist it would be a d!*k move, he knows that. He seems well past the point of caring what people think though. Maybe he'll remove identifiable photos , who knows.
He also knows the potential value of the photos is in the artists identity. He doesn't have to say a name, the photos will say it.
Will the newspapers bid based on promises of images of the artist without seeing them? Not sure how that'll work if he's looking a big number.
He would certainly be going out with a bang.
Just looked at this thread. Absolutely awful move from Laz. Whats the bloke thinking!!!! He's obviously cashing out. The auction stuffs just the leftovers, anything that'll bring in a few quid. The big question is will he cross that line and sell the photos at auction. There's no way to sugar coat it, if there's clear identifiable images of the artist it would be a d!*k move, he knows that. He seems well past the point of caring what people think though. Maybe he'll remove identifiable photos , who knows. He also knows the potential value of the photos is in the artists identity. He doesn't have to say a name, the photos will say it. Will the newspapers bid based on promises of images of the artist without seeing them? Not sure how that'll work if he's looking a big number. He would certainly be going out with a bang. |
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by ricardob on Oct 24, 2024 5:36:16 GMT 1, He keeps adding more stuff to it.
He is going to make a million quid.
He keeps adding more stuff to it.
He is going to make a million quid.
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The Banksy Archive of Steve Lazarides, by loui on Oct 24, 2024 7:38:36 GMT 1, You gotta wonder why Steveโs got something like this in his archive: 2004 JAMAICA GRAFFITI PHOTOS AND NEGATIVES SHOT BY BANKSY.
I mean Iโm yet a relatively unknown writer and took pictures of my writing holiday in wherever and then I give these to a photographer who also happens to be my manager to archive them. What does this say about Banksy in the first place (a relatively unknown writer having a manager and never claimed his archive/pics back) and secondly what does it say about Steve selling them. No answer required ๐
You gotta wonder why Steveโs got something like this in his archive: 2004 JAMAICA GRAFFITI PHOTOS AND NEGATIVES SHOT BY BANKSY.
I mean Iโm yet a relatively unknown writer and took pictures of my writing holiday in wherever and then I give these to a photographer who also happens to be my manager to archive them. What does this say about Banksy in the first place (a relatively unknown writer having a manager and never claimed his archive/pics back) and secondly what does it say about Steve selling them. No answer required ๐
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