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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 23, 2009 22:13:06 GMT 1, The fact it is in a contemporary auction in New York is also important. Not to hype the guy but this could be the start of a meteoric rise in Parlas standing in the contemporary art world. His last show was at a well respected New York gallery that is very highly thought of in contemporary circles, he has served his apprenticeship in contemporary terms and this could be the beginning of another breakthrough in his career.
The fact it is in a contemporary auction in New York is also important. Not to hype the guy but this could be the start of a meteoric rise in Parlas standing in the contemporary art world. His last show was at a well respected New York gallery that is very highly thought of in contemporary circles, he has served his apprenticeship in contemporary terms and this could be the beginning of another breakthrough in his career.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by mose on Feb 23, 2009 22:22:47 GMT 1, His last show was at a well respected New York gallery that is very highly thought of in contemporary circles,
They are fantastic people that I highly recommend, but your statement about Grajales Gallery just really isn't accurate and is a bit hype. They are well respected, but contemporary art is not their forte. Design, most definitely.
His last show was at a well respected New York gallery that is very highly thought of in contemporary circles, They are fantastic people that I highly recommend, but your statement about Grajales Gallery just really isn't accurate and is a bit hype. They are well respected, but contemporary art is not their forte. Design, most definitely. |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by beasty on Feb 23, 2009 22:26:55 GMT 1, Lee - I don't have any experience of the auction houses but I'm with you in that I don't buy their reasons behind setting a low estimate. It will probably go for a lot more and maybe generate a bit of a buzz but do you think it will spark an interest in Parla's work outside his current collector base? I could imagine this happening last year when speculation was rampant in the market but it seems like things have dropped off significantly in that area for obvious reasons.
Lee - I don't have any experience of the auction houses but I'm with you in that I don't buy their reasons behind setting a low estimate. It will probably go for a lot more and maybe generate a bit of a buzz but do you think it will spark an interest in Parla's work outside his current collector base? I could imagine this happening last year when speculation was rampant in the market but it seems like things have dropped off significantly in that area for obvious reasons.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 23, 2009 22:28:45 GMT 1, Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles and has been a bastion of the design scene for years. To be honest I don't think any hype is required, in the long term the guys art will do the talking.
Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles and has been a bastion of the design scene for years. To be honest I don't think any hype is required, in the long term the guys art will do the talking.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by keysersoze on Feb 23, 2009 22:30:17 GMT 1, If it goes anywhere close to that estimate it will be in my house.
Ditto
If it goes anywhere close to that estimate it will be in my house. Ditto |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by lee3 on Feb 23, 2009 22:30:41 GMT 1, Beasty:
I DO agree with Sotheby's on this one in that they have low estimates for everyone across the board in that sale. I saw only 3 or 4 estimates north of $50k though the sale includes the likes of DeKooning, Cornell, and Calder. It's a on odd month to have sale which i suspect also contributes to the teaser ranges. We should all get used to them.
Beasty:
I DO agree with Sotheby's on this one in that they have low estimates for everyone across the board in that sale. I saw only 3 or 4 estimates north of $50k though the sale includes the likes of DeKooning, Cornell, and Calder. It's a on odd month to have sale which i suspect also contributes to the teaser ranges. We should all get used to them.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by keysersoze on Feb 23, 2009 22:35:18 GMT 1, beasty - I just think it is a safe move on Sotheby's part. First 'real' Parla original at auction, crappy economies everywhere, and a realtively early work of his (this is from well before he started showing at Elms and Il Trifoglio, right?). Better to have something that beats estimates and can be used as good PR, than having an unsold lot.
beasty - I just think it is a safe move on Sotheby's part. First 'real' Parla original at auction, crappy economies everywhere, and a realtively early work of his (this is from well before he started showing at Elms and Il Trifoglio, right?). Better to have something that beats estimates and can be used as good PR, than having an unsold lot.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by hlarmy on Feb 23, 2009 22:37:05 GMT 1, I agree that the estimate is low; even in this market, I can't see this hammering at less than ยฃ30k...
I agree that the estimate is low; even in this market, I can't see this hammering at less than ยฃ30k...
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by keysersoze on Feb 23, 2009 22:39:22 GMT 1, Does anyone know the going primary gallery rate for a 4x6?
Does anyone know the going primary gallery rate for a 4x6?
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Winter on Feb 23, 2009 22:40:05 GMT 1, If I was offered that piece for $12000 right now I would buy it without thinking. This piece has been very strategically priced
If I was offered that piece for $12000 right now I would buy it without thinking. This piece has been very strategically priced
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by beasty on Feb 23, 2009 22:51:31 GMT 1, Keyersoze - absolutely agree it's a safe move on Sotheby's part as I'm sure that if things don't go well at the outset then you may see the primary dealers step in with bids.
Hopefully the work will sell itself though as it is a good example of his early stuff.
Keyersoze - absolutely agree it's a safe move on Sotheby's part as I'm sure that if things don't go well at the outset then you may see the primary dealers step in with bids.
Hopefully the work will sell itself though as it is a good example of his early stuff.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by beasty on Feb 23, 2009 22:54:05 GMT 1, Market rate was about 35 -40K UKP for a 4'x 6'early last year. I'm not sure what the Elms or CG prices were but think it was alot more.
Market rate was about 35 -40K UKP for a 4'x 6'early last year. I'm not sure what the Elms or CG prices were but think it was alot more.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by snausages on Feb 23, 2009 23:16:02 GMT 1, Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles.
I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype.
I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality.
Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles. I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality. |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by skelly on Feb 23, 2009 23:20:39 GMT 1, I would guess 40-50K on this one, the estimate is so low it is a joke in my opinion. They could still achieve a good bust of the estimate even if it was at 25-28K
I would guess 40-50K on this one, the estimate is so low it is a joke in my opinion. They could still achieve a good bust of the estimate even if it was at 25-28K
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Va Va Voom on Feb 23, 2009 23:21:49 GMT 1, This was painted by Jose in 2000 and is a fairly important work in as much that it documents a change in his style.
Agree that this has been strategically priced to promote as many bidders as possible,after all you cannot buy a watercolour for that price !.
I believe that the 6x4s at Elms are now pushing 60k.
This was painted by Jose in 2000 and is a fairly important work in as much that it documents a change in his style.
Agree that this has been strategically priced to promote as many bidders as possible,after all you cannot buy a watercolour for that price !.
I believe that the 6x4s at Elms are now pushing 60k.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Va Va Voom on Feb 23, 2009 23:26:17 GMT 1, Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles. Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality.
OUCH ....tad stinging for me there, whilst I agree with some of the latter points, your earlier comment on it not reaching top estimate is way out of line IMO.
Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles. Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality. OUCH ....tad stinging for me there, whilst I agree with some of the latter points, your earlier comment on it not reaching top estimate is way out of line IMO. |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by RBK on Feb 23, 2009 23:27:51 GMT 1, I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality.
That's going under a huge assumption that people on the Banksy forum have the actual coin to pony up purchasing (not talking about purchasing) 
LOL at "selling their DFace prints and emptying their piggy banks!"
Lovely Parla btw!
I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality. That's going under a huge assumption that people on the Banksy forum have the actual coin to pony up purchasing (not talking about purchasing) LOL at "selling their DFace prints and emptying their piggy banks!" Lovely Parla btw! |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Va Va Voom on Feb 23, 2009 23:33:42 GMT 1, Snausages which gallery do you work for ? as I am in NYC frequently and have visited most.
Snausages which gallery do you work for ? as I am in NYC frequently and have visited most.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by dkla on Feb 24, 2009 0:10:52 GMT 1,
I like Parla but that's not one of my faves.
I like Parla but that's not one of my faves. |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 24, 2009 0:16:31 GMT 1, Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles. Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality.
Hey get over yourself, and yes I do know what goes on in contemporary circles and yes I have many acquaintances in contemporary circles so get off your fuckin high horse. Your negative on many things and whilst I understand your reasoning if you read my post I stated Parla doesn't need unnecessary hype. As far as Grajales are concerned in my view they are a highly respected gallery, let me know who you work for and what position you hold and we'll take it from there. No one likes a smart ass!
Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles. Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality. Hey get over yourself, and yes I do know what goes on in contemporary circles and yes I have many acquaintances in contemporary circles so get off your fuckin high horse. Your negative on many things and whilst I understand your reasoning if you read my post I stated Parla doesn't need unnecessary hype. As far as Grajales are concerned in my view they are a highly respected gallery, let me know who you work for and what position you hold and we'll take it from there. No one likes a smart ass! |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by funster on Feb 24, 2009 0:18:46 GMT 1, This is a good Parla, but there's a distinct lack of 'slush fund' money circulating right now. I'm seeing from all sectors that the appetite for such work is probably at an all time low. There's only 2 art markets right now where I'm getting positive feedback from. Time will tell though. (btw - it will definatelty exceed all estimates).
This is a good Parla, but there's a distinct lack of 'slush fund' money circulating right now. I'm seeing from all sectors that the appetite for such work is probably at an all time low. There's only 2 art markets right now where I'm getting positive feedback from. Time will tell though. (btw - it will definatelty exceed all estimates).
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by wiz on Feb 24, 2009 0:20:19 GMT 1, Funster, as a matter of interest which are the two Art markets?.
Funster, as a matter of interest which are the two Art markets?.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by funster on Feb 24, 2009 0:21:50 GMT 1, Funster, as a matter of interest which are the two Art markets?.
Pm'd.
Funster, as a matter of interest which are the two Art markets?. Pm'd. |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 24, 2009 0:39:14 GMT 1, snausages, I've just reread a lot of your posts, you seem to be big on who will sell highest in 10 years time and speak with a disarming degree of authority like your a big player; but then the tell tale sign you can't afford ยฃ350 for the Sam Taylor Wood when it comes out, maybe you want to think about moving out of the contemporary artworld into something a little different. I thought you would have had Sam's number.
snausages, I've just reread a lot of your posts, you seem to be big on who will sell highest in 10 years time and speak with a disarming degree of authority like your a big player; but then the tell tale sign you can't afford ยฃ350 for the Sam Taylor Wood when it comes out, maybe you want to think about moving out of the contemporary artworld into something a little different. I thought you would have had Sam's number.
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by giiiant on Feb 24, 2009 0:47:58 GMT 1, Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles. Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality.
hahaha this
never read parla's name outside the pages of this forum, hell when you search him on google banksy.info comes up on the first page of results which is pretty telling
Mose, yeh I know they are mainly known for design but Christina Grajales is hugely respected in contemporary circles. Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality. hahaha this never read parla's name outside the pages of this forum, hell when you search him on google banksy.info comes up on the first page of results which is pretty telling |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Feb 24, 2009 0:56:30 GMT 1,
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 24, 2009 1:01:19 GMT 1, Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality. hahaha this never read parla's name outside the pages of this forum, hell when you search him on google banksy.info comes up on the first page of results which is pretty telling
Mmmmm, I've just read your last few posts and yeh you're a glib fucker aswell, nothing really to say other than snide digs, go fuck yourself p*ick!
Who's kidding who here? Do you have any clue what goes on behind the scenes in "contemporary circles?" I work at a contemporary art gallery in NY and Grajales is not only NOT "hugely respected" it's practically never even mentioned in contemporary art circles. Please chill with the hype. I was really really curious to see what the "contemporary" Sotheby's crowd would actually bid this up to but now that's not possible. My honest opinion is that it would barely hit the top estimate, maybe a little more if it's a good day. But now that it's all over the Banksy forum it's going to be hard to say as all the Parla groupies are probably creaming their pants now, selling their dface prints and emptying their piggy banks. Sky's the limit here when buyers are basing prices on emotions and not on reality. hahaha this never read parla's name outside the pages of this forum, hell when you search him on google banksy.info comes up on the first page of results which is pretty telling Mmmmm, I've just read your last few posts and yeh you're a glib fucker aswell, nothing really to say other than snide digs, go fuck yourself p*ick! |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by giiiant on Feb 24, 2009 1:25:58 GMT 1, hahaha this never read parla's name outside the pages of this forum, hell when you search him on google banksy.info comes up on the first page of results which is pretty telling Mmmmm, I've just read your last few posts and yeh you're a glib f**ker aswell, nothing really to say other than snide digs, go f**k yourself p*ick!
lol im sorry but its exactly the type of posts you were making earlier in this thread ("Not to hype the guy but...") that have caused me to take such a cynical attitude towards the whole urban art thing in the first place
you said it yourself, let the art do the talking
hahaha this never read parla's name outside the pages of this forum, hell when you search him on google banksy.info comes up on the first page of results which is pretty telling Mmmmm, I've just read your last few posts and yeh you're a glib f**ker aswell, nothing really to say other than snide digs, go f**k yourself p*ick! lol im sorry but its exactly the type of posts you were making earlier in this thread ("Not to hype the guy but...") that have caused me to take such a cynical attitude towards the whole urban art thing in the first place you said it yourself, let the art do the talking |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by snausages on Feb 24, 2009 1:25:57 GMT 1, snausages, I've just reread a lot of your posts, you seem to be big on who will sell highest in 10 years time and speak with a disarming degree of authority like your a big player; but then the tell tale sign you can't afford ยฃ350 for the Sam Taylor Wood when it comes out, maybe you want to think about moving out of the contemporary artworld into something a little different. I thought you would have had Sam's number.
Christina may be nice and certainly respectable, and they may be a fine design showroom, Imean no disrespect to her but saying that they are "hugely respected art gallery" in NYC is nonsense. None of the gallerists here are whispering anything about Grajales or Parla. None of the serious and respected art rags in "contemporary circles" are saying anything about them.
snausages, I've just reread a lot of your posts, you seem to be big on who will sell highest in 10 years time and speak with a disarming degree of authority like your a big player; but then the tell tale sign you can't afford ยฃ350 for the Sam Taylor Wood when it comes out, maybe you want to think about moving out of the contemporary artworld into something a little different. I thought you would have had Sam's number. Christina may be nice and certainly respectable, and they may be a fine design showroom, Imean no disrespect to her but saying that they are "hugely respected art gallery" in NYC is nonsense. None of the gallerists here are whispering anything about Grajales or Parla. None of the serious and respected art rags in "contemporary circles" are saying anything about them. |
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Jose Parla ๐บ๐ธ New Paintings โข Exhibition News โข For Sale, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 24, 2009 1:33:32 GMT 1, Ok guys fair enough, each to their own, I'm not that bothered I like what I like and am happy to put my money where my mouth is. We''ll see in the long run.
Ok guys fair enough, each to their own, I'm not that bothered I like what I like and am happy to put my money where my mouth is. We''ll see in the long run.
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