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Faile/FairQ Update, by dmandpenfold on Jul 1, 2008 9:58:18 GMT 1, Yeah but import duty customs is not as much as VAT, it's only 5 percent rather than 17.5 percent isnt it? No its 17.5 for a print. 5% for an original piece only. Still arguing with customs that vanity fight is 'technically' an original because of the handfinishing and that it is a limited edition rather than edition but they're not having it.
wavydave I think you need to argue a little harder, if the print was created by the artist, technically by his or her own fair hand then 5% is the rule, it also has to be a limited edition eg 2 of 25 or 100 or whatever, that they cant argue with. Giving them too much information is not good, let them do the research to counter your argument, the more work they have to do the less likely they are to chase it, few of them are experts in this line, i've got them to agree to turn over decisions on a number of occasions on the phone, but you need your research first. You dont have to tell them the work was created on an automated press, especially as you dont know that, or you could always contact faile to see exactly how and who produced the runs.
Yeah but import duty customs is not as much as VAT, it's only 5 percent rather than 17.5 percent isnt it? No its 17.5 for a print. 5% for an original piece only. Still arguing with customs that vanity fight is 'technically' an original because of the handfinishing and that it is a limited edition rather than edition but they're not having it. wavydave I think you need to argue a little harder, if the print was created by the artist, technically by his or her own fair hand then 5% is the rule, it also has to be a limited edition eg 2 of 25 or 100 or whatever, that they cant argue with. Giving them too much information is not good, let them do the research to counter your argument, the more work they have to do the less likely they are to chase it, few of them are experts in this line, i've got them to agree to turn over decisions on a number of occasions on the phone, but you need your research first. You dont have to tell them the work was created on an automated press, especially as you dont know that, or you could always contact faile to see exactly how and who produced the runs. |
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Macdeee
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Macdeee on Jul 1, 2008 9:59:50 GMT 1, Has anyone worked out the complete amount to be made by Faile for the originals and prints? Its gotta be a fair few quid... Just curious.
Has anyone worked out the complete amount to be made by Faile for the originals and prints? Its gotta be a fair few quid... Just curious.
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robstar
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Faile/FairQ Update, by robstar on Jul 1, 2008 10:17:14 GMT 1, True, but aren't a lot of these prints old ones they've had lying around? Or not?
True, but aren't a lot of these prints old ones they've had lying around? Or not?
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Faile/FairQ Update, by dh on Jul 1, 2008 10:19:12 GMT 1, I just cannot understand anyone who complains about this release, it seems that if you want a new Faile you can have one (edition of 315 still available). The rest of the work in the lottery may be old images reworked but who cares as we love the old work so its an opportunity get grab one and I think the prices are pretty good for what you are getting.
I just cannot understand anyone who complains about this release, it seems that if you want a new Faile you can have one (edition of 315 still available). The rest of the work in the lottery may be old images reworked but who cares as we love the old work so its an opportunity get grab one and I think the prices are pretty good for what you are getting.
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Faile/FairQ Update, by brun on Jul 1, 2008 11:19:43 GMT 1, if you like it buy it , if its too expensive dont ! but if you really like it (like most of the faile images in the lottery) start sweating and wondering where you can get the cash from 
if you like it buy it , if its too expensive dont ! but if you really like it (like most of the faile images in the lottery) start sweating and wondering where you can get the cash from |
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moleman
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Faile/FairQ Update, by moleman on Jul 1, 2008 11:39:22 GMT 1, i think more shows and galleries should show what will be available and what is sold OPUS to people before they travel to the show . bit like the link the day aftyer burning bridges show but a week earlier
i think more shows and galleries should show what will be available and what is sold OPUS to people before they travel to the show . bit like the link the day aftyer burning bridges show but a week earlier
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Faile/FairQ Update, by retardthebear on Jul 1, 2008 13:16:49 GMT 1, If, say one thousend people enter the lottery for each peice and you have entered five queues (as have I) then you stand a 1/1000 chance of a print.
personally i havent a clue how many will enter for each peice but i thought it was interesting to work out what my odds were (even if my sums are the worst approximations ever!)
Thats why i just thought screw it and bought the Tender Forever just now, which i'm very happy with, but feel i may have just also just spunked potential lottery dosh 
Who am i trying to kid, i want evrything on there, just have to learn to behave 
errr, my bd maths are worse tan i thought, didnt take into consideration there are several of eachprint to be won. chances are still slim tho fingers crossed...
If, say one thousend people enter the lottery for each peice and you have entered five queues (as have I) then you stand a 1/1000 chance of a print. personally i havent a clue how many will enter for each peice but i thought it was interesting to work out what my odds were (even if my sums are the worst approximations ever!) Thats why i just thought screw it and bought the Tender Forever just now, which i'm very happy with, but feel i may have just also just spunked potential lottery dosh Who am i trying to kid, i want evrything on there, just have to learn to behave errr, my bd maths are worse tan i thought, didnt take into consideration there are several of eachprint to be won. chances are still slim tho fingers crossed... |
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Faile/FairQ Update, by goffy on Jul 1, 2008 14:02:32 GMT 1, How can you not moan about the rehash of the old pieces. Boring same old, same old. The only decent print is the Tate one.
How can you not moan about the rehash of the old pieces. Boring same old, same old. The only decent print is the Tate one.
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annar50
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Faile/FairQ Update, by annar50 on Jul 1, 2008 17:00:11 GMT 1, i cant believe it ,went on to faile site,clicked buy it now print and ive just had a tender love in my checkout box,was gonna buy it then i thought £660 was a lot of £££ of an edition of 315! so let it go.
wierd
i cant believe it ,went on to faile site,clicked buy it now print and ive just had a tender love in my checkout box,was gonna buy it then i thought £660 was a lot of £££ of an edition of 315! so let it go.
wierd
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wave
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Faile/FairQ Update, by wave on Jul 1, 2008 18:45:17 GMT 1, No its 17.5 for a print. 5% for an original piece only. Still arguing with customs that vanity fight is 'technically' an original because of the handfinishing and that it is a limited edition rather than edition but they're not having it. wavydave I think you need to argue a little harder, if the print was created by the artist, technically by his or her own fair hand then 5% is the rule, it also has to be a limited edition eg 2 of 25 or 100 or whatever, that they cant argue with. Giving them too much information is not good, let them do the research to counter your argument, the more work they have to do the less likely they are to chase it, few of them are experts in this line, i've got them to agree to turn over decisions on a number of occasions on the phone, but you need your research first. You dont have to tell them the work was created on an automated press, especially as you dont know that, or you could always contact faile to see exactly how and who produced the runs.
Nice one mr. I got them on the 5% ruling in the end.
customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000906&propertyType=document
Told them it was:
a. Handfinished by the artist.
b. 'limited' edition.
Have paid an extra £40 but could have been a lot worse + no parcelforce ' holding fees' on top. Cheers for the advice. One for all forum members to remember next time you get stung.
No its 17.5 for a print. 5% for an original piece only. Still arguing with customs that vanity fight is 'technically' an original because of the handfinishing and that it is a limited edition rather than edition but they're not having it. wavydave I think you need to argue a little harder, if the print was created by the artist, technically by his or her own fair hand then 5% is the rule, it also has to be a limited edition eg 2 of 25 or 100 or whatever, that they cant argue with. Giving them too much information is not good, let them do the research to counter your argument, the more work they have to do the less likely they are to chase it, few of them are experts in this line, i've got them to agree to turn over decisions on a number of occasions on the phone, but you need your research first. You dont have to tell them the work was created on an automated press, especially as you dont know that, or you could always contact faile to see exactly how and who produced the runs. Nice one mr. I got them on the 5% ruling in the end. customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000906&propertyType=documentTold them it was: a. Handfinished by the artist. b. 'limited' edition. Have paid an extra £40 but could have been a lot worse + no parcelforce ' holding fees' on top. Cheers for the advice. One for all forum members to remember next time you get stung. |
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Faile/FairQ Update, by graeme501 on Jul 1, 2008 21:03:19 GMT 1, right, ive just stuck my name down for a few pieces
unlikely, but if i win more than 1, i get to choose which 1 right ? i dont need 2 buy them both ?
right, ive just stuck my name down for a few pieces
unlikely, but if i win more than 1, i get to choose which 1 right ? i dont need 2 buy them both ?
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foreman
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Faile/FairQ Update, by foreman on Jul 1, 2008 21:10:45 GMT 1, right, ive just stuck my name down for a few pieces unlikely, but if i win more than 1, i get to choose which 1 right ? i dont need 2 buy them both ?
nope u get your pick of which one u wanna pay for..
right, ive just stuck my name down for a few pieces unlikely, but if i win more than 1, i get to choose which 1 right ? i dont need 2 buy them both ? nope u get your pick of which one u wanna pay for.. |
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Faile/FairQ Update, by graeme501 on Jul 1, 2008 21:18:49 GMT 1, ahh good, i stuck down 1 or 2 that i like, and 1 or 2 that i really really like
ahh good, i stuck down 1 or 2 that i like, and 1 or 2 that i really really like
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Faile/FairQ Update, by graeme501 on Jul 1, 2008 22:29:28 GMT 1, some1 asked before, but no answer, so what do the spots mean ?
some1 asked before, but no answer, so what do the spots mean ?
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Richard
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Richard on Jul 1, 2008 22:43:31 GMT 1, some1 asked before, but no answer, so what do the spots mean ?
How many people will be picked to win the item. ie The number available through the lottery.
some1 asked before, but no answer, so what do the spots mean ? How many people will be picked to win the item. ie The number available through the lottery. |
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Faile/FairQ Update, by graeme501 on Jul 1, 2008 22:51:40 GMT 1, are you sure, because some things such as in trembling whispering mono in red, its an edition of 5, and has a spot of 1, so where has the other 4 gone ?
same with stories of love, get aquainted stencil and sinful pleasures, all have spots much less than their edition
are you sure, because some things such as in trembling whispering mono in red, its an edition of 5, and has a spot of 1, so where has the other 4 gone ?
same with stories of love, get aquainted stencil and sinful pleasures, all have spots much less than their edition
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Faile/FairQ Update, by urbanangel on Jul 1, 2008 23:01:12 GMT 1, are you sure, because some things such as in trembling whispering mono in red, its an edition of 5, and has a spot of 1, so where has the other 4 gone ? same with stories of love, get aquainted stencil and sinful pleasures, all have spots much less than their edition
Faile usually ONLY release a select amount of the run. So if the edition is 5, they will release 1 now, 2 in X months, then the final 2 whenever (Laz show is a possibility).
Unless I'm mistaken, the Sexy Ad Brown is identical to the one from the previous release. So it's just the remaining editions from that run.
They could well do this to stop people selling, as if you listed it on eBay for a much higher price, they simply release the rest of the edition, which means you have trouble selling it. Only a guess mind you, it may be nothing to do with that at all.
are you sure, because some things such as in trembling whispering mono in red, its an edition of 5, and has a spot of 1, so where has the other 4 gone ? same with stories of love, get aquainted stencil and sinful pleasures, all have spots much less than their edition Faile usually ONLY release a select amount of the run. So if the edition is 5, they will release 1 now, 2 in X months, then the final 2 whenever (Laz show is a possibility). Unless I'm mistaken, the Sexy Ad Brown is identical to the one from the previous release. So it's just the remaining editions from that run. They could well do this to stop people selling, as if you listed it on eBay for a much higher price, they simply release the rest of the edition, which means you have trouble selling it. Only a guess mind you, it may be nothing to do with that at all. |
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Faile/FairQ Update, by graeme501 on Jul 1, 2008 23:02:43 GMT 1, ahh ok, cheers andrew
ahh ok, cheers andrew
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Faile/FairQ Update, by urbanangel on Jul 1, 2008 23:03:32 GMT 1,
P.S. Faile print still up for sale as a BIN.
Very staggered release.
P.S. Faile print still up for sale as a BIN. Very staggered release. |
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Faile/FairQ Update, by graeme501 on Jul 1, 2008 23:05:44 GMT 1, yeah i saw that, im going 2 try my luck in the lottery, fingers crossed
yeah i saw that, im going 2 try my luck in the lottery, fingers crossed
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Matt-lock on Jul 1, 2008 23:13:36 GMT 1, I wish there were some pieces with the Faile Mary image in this release. Oh well, there's quite a few beauties I've entered my name in the hat for...good luck to all.
I wish there were some pieces with the Faile Mary image in this release. Oh well, there's quite a few beauties I've entered my name in the hat for...good luck to all.
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Richard
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Richard on Jul 1, 2008 23:17:27 GMT 1, Well...a part of me feels I am going to get lucky...the other part of me knows I won't.
That is more than I get from a Banksy release... 
Well...a part of me feels I am going to get lucky...the other part of me knows I won't. That is more than I get from a Banksy release... |
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Guest on Jul 1, 2008 23:28:38 GMT 1, the chance of getting the print you actually want, with the lottery system is very slim, you would be lucky to get your 2nd or 3rd or .........choice if your very lucky!
Good luck to those that have entered.
the chance of getting the print you actually want, with the lottery system is very slim, you would be lucky to get your 2nd or 3rd or .........choice if your very lucky!
Good luck to those that have entered.
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Winter
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Winter on Jul 1, 2008 23:38:25 GMT 1, How many of the new release are there in total? 20? How many people have entered the lottery 1000s? A pretty slim chance
How many of the new release are there in total? 20? How many people have entered the lottery 1000s? A pretty slim chance
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robstar
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Faile/FairQ Update, by robstar on Jul 2, 2008 1:28:26 GMT 1, The Buy It Now print (tate one) is back on sale! Haha... amazing!
The Buy It Now print (tate one) is back on sale! Haha... amazing!
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robstar
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Faile/FairQ Update, by robstar on Jul 2, 2008 1:44:09 GMT 1, Guys, how much were the Papermonster prints from recently when they first sold...?
Guys, how much were the Papermonster prints from recently when they first sold...?
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wave
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Faile/FairQ Update, by wave on Jul 2, 2008 7:28:14 GMT 1, Guys, how much were the Papermonster prints from recently when they first sold...?
Fight Vanity £480 GBP
My confessions was £500 GBP
Guys, how much were the Papermonster prints from recently when they first sold...? Fight Vanity £480 GBP My confessions was £500 GBP |
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Richard
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Richard on Jul 2, 2008 9:05:29 GMT 1, Why is the time on the queue for the Scuba Horse print going up?
www.fairq.com/home/viewq/PI4Azd2c
It was on 1 minute left a second ago....
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Richard
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Faile/FairQ Update, by Richard on Jul 2, 2008 9:06:06 GMT 1, Never mind! I didn't win 
Never mind! I didn't win |
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pezlow
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Faile/FairQ Update, by pezlow on Jul 2, 2008 9:13:33 GMT 1, One down, a few more to go
One down, a few more to go |
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