T-Bro
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by T-Bro on Sept 25, 2007 7:51:11 GMT 1, tinyurl.com/2hro6z
crickey!
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Deleted on Sept 25, 2007 7:59:04 GMT 1, crickey indeed. thanks for posting the artice. i missed whatever was written in the newspaper. it mentions someone who left to set up there own printhouse. the only one that i know of is Stelladore. i guess his tounge would be tied over this because of investigation. all the talk of backdoor prints seem to be with good reason. interesting to see how this unfolds. no doubt this is why mr Banks hasnt released any prints for ages.
crickey indeed. thanks for posting the artice. i missed whatever was written in the newspaper. it mentions someone who left to set up there own printhouse. the only one that i know of is Stelladore. i guess his tounge would be tied over this because of investigation. all the talk of backdoor prints seem to be with good reason. interesting to see how this unfolds. no doubt this is why mr Banks hasnt released any prints for ages.
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dotdot
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by dotdot on Sept 25, 2007 8:14:59 GMT 1, oh dear
potential disaster looming for pow.
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oh dear
potential disaster looming for pow.
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Macdeee
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Macdeee on Sept 25, 2007 8:19:24 GMT 1, Wow..... It all sounds pretty serious. So I guess a few of us have some backdoor prints hanging on our walls!
Wow..... It all sounds pretty serious. So I guess a few of us have some backdoor prints hanging on our walls!
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Montubu7
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November 2006
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Montubu7 on Sept 25, 2007 8:22:45 GMT 1, Crikey, i guess we know who they are talking about then... ( think?)
Crikey, i guess we know who they are talking about then... ( think?)
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by mcnuts on Sept 25, 2007 8:23:13 GMT 1, Wow..... It all sounds pretty serious. So I guess a few of us have some backdoor prints hanging on our walls!
might explain the delay in the latest release 
Wow..... It all sounds pretty serious. So I guess a few of us have some backdoor prints hanging on our walls! might explain the delay in the latest release |
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T-Bro
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by T-Bro on Sept 25, 2007 8:36:58 GMT 1, time to offload your banksy prints, i will pay £10 for each print 
time to offload your banksy prints, i will pay £10 for each print |
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jmcy9999
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by jmcy9999 on Sept 25, 2007 8:39:33 GMT 1, How glad am I that I never splurged on ebay Banksys and only own one direct from POW in 2005.
We all knew someone / some people were inflating the prices, but for the shill bidding to come from people within POW is un-fucking believable.
How glad am I that I never splurged on ebay Banksys and only own one direct from POW in 2005.
We all knew someone / some people were inflating the prices, but for the shill bidding to come from people within POW is un-fucking believable.
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goffy
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by goffy on Sept 25, 2007 8:46:28 GMT 1, F**king hell. I didn't see that coming.
Explanations need to be given and soon. Fortunately it doesn't effect me but some people will be very upset. Maybe from now Banksy will sell through Laz, and then everybody loses.
F**king hell. I didn't see that coming.
Explanations need to be given and soon. Fortunately it doesn't effect me but some people will be very upset. Maybe from now Banksy will sell through Laz, and then everybody loses.
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Macdeee
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Macdeee on Sept 25, 2007 8:48:22 GMT 1, From that article it sounds as though two of the three people involved are still at POW. How does anyone know if the provenance from POW about an ebay deal is good?
From that article it sounds as though two of the three people involved are still at POW. How does anyone know if the provenance from POW about an ebay deal is good?
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Fearkiller on Sept 25, 2007 8:50:59 GMT 1, morning,
According to this article:
www.theartnewspaper.com/article01.asp?id=4566
They seller told the buyers to ask a specific person @pow about the authenticity. But since we don´t know who it just would be guessing?
greetz
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by slowmo on Sept 25, 2007 8:58:56 GMT 1, Careful goffy, its easy to use someone as a scapegoat that has left the company and not always the truth
Careful goffy, its easy to use someone as a scapegoat that has left the company and not always the truth
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BME
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by BME on Sept 25, 2007 8:59:27 GMT 1, This is really serious. If POW provenance can't be trusted then there's little point in buying on ebay at all.
If there are only 25-100 fake prints out there then POW should guarantee full refunds to ebay buyers who have relied upon 'authentication' issued by POW staff members. I know it will cost a bit but not nearly as much as the loss of their reputation.
This is really serious. If POW provenance can't be trusted then there's little point in buying on ebay at all.
If there are only 25-100 fake prints out there then POW should guarantee full refunds to ebay buyers who have relied upon 'authentication' issued by POW staff members. I know it will cost a bit but not nearly as much as the loss of their reputation.
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goffy
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by goffy on Sept 25, 2007 9:01:45 GMT 1, That's why I said there needs to be explanations.
I have modified the earlier post. I'm sure the shit is hitting the fan for present and post employees of POW's and I don't want to add to it. I'm dying to know though, arn't you?
That's why I said there needs to be explanations.
I have modified the earlier post. I'm sure the shit is hitting the fan for present and post employees of POW's and I don't want to add to it. I'm dying to know though, arn't you?
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Fearkiller on Sept 25, 2007 9:04:07 GMT 1, morning,
And another question why has POW put the notice on their website down?
greetz
morning,
And another question why has POW put the notice on their website down?
greetz
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steve
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by steve on Sept 25, 2007 9:08:40 GMT 1, quote from the artnewspaper article:
"When POW releases a new print, existing clients are notified by email in advance. " ;D
makes you wonder if the rest is to be believed!
quote from the artnewspaper article:
"When POW releases a new print, existing clients are notified by email in advance. " ;D
makes you wonder if the rest is to be believed!
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®at
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October 2006
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by ®at on Sept 25, 2007 9:14:12 GMT 1, The cynic in me says that POW have made up some of this in order to crash prices....
"Banksy said: “They say it’s better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody, but I don’t think that applies to art prints. If it turns out that limited editions have not been limited in edition then I sincerely apologise. This is particularly unfortunate for the people who buy my work to flip it for a quick profit on eBay, as I wouldn’t want to affect their mark-up.” "
And it looks like mr 21st-century-tortoise is no longer an ebay user..... the plot thickens.
Either way, it takes the piss and shows them up as the jokers they really are.
The cynic in me says that POW have made up some of this in order to crash prices....
"Banksy said: “They say it’s better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody, but I don’t think that applies to art prints. If it turns out that limited editions have not been limited in edition then I sincerely apologise. This is particularly unfortunate for the people who buy my work to flip it for a quick profit on eBay, as I wouldn’t want to affect their mark-up.” "
And it looks like mr 21st-century-tortoise is no longer an ebay user..... the plot thickens.
Either way, it takes the piss and shows them up as the jokers they really are.
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by dave313perry on Sept 25, 2007 9:14:47 GMT 1, Bound to happen - bunch of ameteurs
Makes the authenticated prints even more desirable - and tarnishes the credability of Laz further ...shame
Bound to happen - bunch of ameteurs
Makes the authenticated prints even more desirable - and tarnishes the credability of Laz further ...shame
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scoote
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by scoote on Sept 25, 2007 9:16:50 GMT 1, So if you are holding Grin Reaper number 92/300. Or a Soup Can numbered 3/10, might be time to get worried !
Blimey
So if you are holding Grin Reaper number 92/300. Or a Soup Can numbered 3/10, might be time to get worried !
Blimey
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influence
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by influence on Sept 25, 2007 9:17:40 GMT 1, I think it's time for certificates!
I think it's time for certificates!
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steve
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by steve on Sept 25, 2007 9:21:02 GMT 1, So if you are holding Grin Reaper number 92/300. Or a Soup Can numbered 3/10, might be time to get worried ! Blimey
If you'd like to get rid of either as they're worth nada now, i have a nice Hutch print for swaps? Purchased in person so no authenticity can be supplied
Bloke outside Brighton train station selling the daily rags swears it's a hutch though so all's good ;D
So if you are holding Grin Reaper number 92/300. Or a Soup Can numbered 3/10, might be time to get worried ! Blimey If you'd like to get rid of either as they're worth nada now, i have a nice Hutch print for swaps? Purchased in person so no authenticity can be supplied Bloke outside Brighton train station selling the daily rags swears it's a hutch though so all's good ;D |
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psp500
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by psp500 on Sept 25, 2007 9:27:14 GMT 1, I have never had any personal contact with POW, except for two ghettos I went to. They were helpful there.
I've ordered ten prints through them - all great images, all well priced. Two damaged, five with wrong editions numbers, one unsigned, when supposed to be signed. All replaced. Longest wait two months. A solid printhouse with great images, not perhaps not the most professional service. IMHO
I have never had any personal contact with POW, except for two ghettos I went to. They were helpful there.
I've ordered ten prints through them - all great images, all well priced. Two damaged, five with wrong editions numbers, one unsigned, when supposed to be signed. All replaced. Longest wait two months. A solid printhouse with great images, not perhaps not the most professional service. IMHO
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by johnas on Sept 25, 2007 9:28:39 GMT 1, 
first thing i did when i got up this morning was check the arts newspaper site for this article. When I heard about the 'forthcoming' article last week, i was extremely interested to hear what it was about.
After reading the article this morning, I am truely amazed about these allegations. POW's integrity has got to be in shatters after this - i know a lot of people here are quite cynical, but claims that this is a PR exercise are just crazy! POW have long been the leading print house in this 'scene' but these allegations have surely got to leave whatever reputation they have in tatters. If these allegations are true and key members of staff are aware of what was happening, then their actions are despicable, underhand and a right royal "F You". It appears this has been done for no other reason than to cash in and take advantage.
As for repercussions, well, lets see what the POW investigation uncovers, but if proved right, would you feel comfortable buying from them in the future?
first thing i did when i got up this morning was check the arts newspaper site for this article. When I heard about the 'forthcoming' article last week, i was extremely interested to hear what it was about. After reading the article this morning, I am truely amazed about these allegations. POW's integrity has got to be in shatters after this - i know a lot of people here are quite cynical, but claims that this is a PR exercise are just crazy! POW have long been the leading print house in this 'scene' but these allegations have surely got to leave whatever reputation they have in tatters. If these allegations are true and key members of staff are aware of what was happening, then their actions are despicable, underhand and a right royal "F You". It appears this has been done for no other reason than to cash in and take advantage. As for repercussions, well, lets see what the POW investigation uncovers, but if proved right, would you feel comfortable buying from them in the future?
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pezlow
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by pezlow on Sept 25, 2007 9:30:03 GMT 1, I am stunned. Don't know what to think at the moment.
I am stunned. Don't know what to think at the moment.
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Deleted on Sept 25, 2007 9:33:59 GMT 1, the article talks about signed, stamped but unnumbered prints. i dont think there should be a mass panic, i think anyone that has bought one of the prints that have been described in that way should know that they may be buying a back door print. its been talked about on here lots of times(at least 25 probably).
the article talks about signed, stamped but unnumbered prints. i dont think there should be a mass panic, i think anyone that has bought one of the prints that have been described in that way should know that they may be buying a back door print. its been talked about on here lots of times(at least 25 probably).
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by Deleted on Sept 25, 2007 9:38:28 GMT 1, [quote
As for repercussions, well, lets see what the POW investigation uncovers, but if proved right, would you feel comfortable buying from them in the future?[/quote]
the artice cleary states these prints have been bought from ebay, lets not panic.
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As for repercussions, well, lets see what the POW investigation uncovers, but if proved right, would you feel comfortable buying from them in the future?[/quote]
the artice cleary states these prints have been bought from ebay, lets not panic.
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by johnas on Sept 25, 2007 9:41:08 GMT 1, the artice cleary states these prints have been bought from ebay, lets not panic.
and who sold them on ebay?
the artice cleary states these prints have been bought from ebay, lets not panic. and who sold them on ebay? |
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funster
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by funster on Sept 25, 2007 9:41:19 GMT 1, Its all very well saying we can check but a few weeks ago I sent an email to POW for confirmation and I haven't heard back, does anyone know how long it usually takes?
Its all very well saying we can check but a few weeks ago I sent an email to POW for confirmation and I haven't heard back, does anyone know how long it usually takes?
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goffy
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Guardian article on POW Scandal, by goffy on Sept 25, 2007 9:42:41 GMT 1, I'm still waiting for a reply from three emails I sent months ago.
I'm still waiting for a reply from three emails I sent months ago.
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