Montubu7
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November 2006
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Faile Site Update, by Montubu7 on Nov 12, 2007 20:37:15 GMT 1, Shite odds! 
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Faile Site Update, by eddiedangerous on Nov 12, 2007 20:42:28 GMT 1, i think what faile are doing is a lot more honourable and fair than the way POW do it! If they used this method f5 keys around the world would be saved, and the flippers would be thwarted as everyone has equal status (and yes I didn't get a damn trollys on pow!! and i'm hoping the cosmos will re-compensate me with one of failes little beauties) and there isn't a wasted month of f5 pressing for all involved!!
i think what faile are doing is a lot more honourable and fair than the way POW do it! If they used this method f5 keys around the world would be saved, and the flippers would be thwarted as everyone has equal status (and yes I didn't get a damn trollys on pow!! and i'm hoping the cosmos will re-compensate me with one of failes little beauties) and there isn't a wasted month of f5 pressing for all involved!!
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Faile Site Update, by carlito on Nov 12, 2007 20:44:55 GMT 1, I don't understand how this thwarts flippers anymore than f5'ing..if these limited pieces were put for sale in the usual way..flipper / fans etc etc would have an equal chance just as with this...they're both lotteries just different forms
I don't understand how this thwarts flippers anymore than f5'ing..if these limited pieces were put for sale in the usual way..flipper / fans etc etc would have an equal chance just as with this...they're both lotteries just different forms
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Simococo
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April 2007
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Faile Site Update, by Simococo on Nov 12, 2007 20:46:33 GMT 1, Bring back the random release. No notice just Bang. Ave some. Or not.
Bring back the random release. No notice just Bang. Ave some. Or not.
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morrissey1
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October 2007
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Faile Site Update, by morrissey1 on Nov 12, 2007 20:56:52 GMT 1, I personally can't wait to see what they release on POW over the next couple of weeks...maybe they will be a little more affordable (not that these prices are inappropriate, but I was hoping for a print or two in the 500-700 range).
Still, nice work as usual from Faile.
I personally can't wait to see what they release on POW over the next couple of weeks...maybe they will be a little more affordable (not that these prices are inappropriate, but I was hoping for a print or two in the 500-700 range).
Still, nice work as usual from Faile.
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Faile Site Update, by eddiedangerous on Nov 12, 2007 20:58:40 GMT 1, my point was more to do with the fact that there wouldn;t be the insane pressure and build up with sites going down self emptying carts and mostly the frustration of missing the exact time in the month or spending all month waiting for it. This way (imagining there were more prints on sale) everyone can register an interest in there own time for a piece they really want not just the first "add to cart" button they see. you're right it is just a different way, but so much more dignified... no? And having gone through failes queing system just now it seems a lot harded to create several account, where flippers can have a number of computers constantly updating on different lines, cornring the marketplace in pows current format.
i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!!
my point was more to do with the fact that there wouldn;t be the insane pressure and build up with sites going down self emptying carts and mostly the frustration of missing the exact time in the month or spending all month waiting for it. This way (imagining there were more prints on sale) everyone can register an interest in there own time for a piece they really want not just the first "add to cart" button they see. you're right it is just a different way, but so much more dignified... no? And having gone through failes queing system just now it seems a lot harded to create several account, where flippers can have a number of computers constantly updating on different lines, cornring the marketplace in pows current format.
i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!!
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motor
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December 2006
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Faile Site Update, by motor on Nov 12, 2007 21:16:38 GMT 1, my point was more to do with the fact that there wouldn;t be the insane pressure and build up with sites going down self emptying carts and mostly the frustration of missing the exact time in the month or spending all month waiting for it. This way (imagining there were more prints on sale) everyone can register an interest in there own time for a piece they really want not just the first "add to cart" button they see. you're right it is just a different way, but so much more dignified... no? And having gone through failes queing system just now it seems a lot harded to create several account, where flippers can have a number of computers constantly updating on different lines, cornring the marketplace in pows current format. i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!!
...so much more DIGNIFIED..
That sums it up nicely
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my point was more to do with the fact that there wouldn;t be the insane pressure and build up with sites going down self emptying carts and mostly the frustration of missing the exact time in the month or spending all month waiting for it. This way (imagining there were more prints on sale) everyone can register an interest in there own time for a piece they really want not just the first "add to cart" button they see. you're right it is just a different way, but so much more dignified... no? And having gone through failes queing system just now it seems a lot harded to create several account, where flippers can have a number of computers constantly updating on different lines, cornring the marketplace in pows current format. i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!! ...so much more DIGNIFIED.. That sums it up nicely + |
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Faile Site Update, by arcam on Nov 12, 2007 21:25:03 GMT 1, i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!!
I see there no reason why they should. The situation with Faile is that their site isn't built for the traffic they were receiving. POW on the other hand have now addressed the problems they had. The site never slowed down once during the Trolleys release.
i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!! I see there no reason why they should. The situation with Faile is that their site isn't built for the traffic they were receiving. POW on the other hand have now addressed the problems they had. The site never slowed down once during the Trolleys release. |
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stuey09
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Faile Site Update, by stuey09 on Nov 12, 2007 21:29:36 GMT 1, i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!! I see there no reason why they should. The situation with Faile is that their site isn't built for the traffic they were receiving. POW on the other hand have now addressed the problems they had. The site never slowed down once during the Trolleys release.
With you 100% on this one arcam. PoW did a sound job on the last release.
i just hope pow make the switch to the "faile method"!! I see there no reason why they should. The situation with Faile is that their site isn't built for the traffic they were receiving. POW on the other hand have now addressed the problems they had. The site never slowed down once during the Trolleys release. With you 100% on this one arcam. PoW did a sound job on the last release. |
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Faile Site Update, by eddiedangerous on Nov 12, 2007 23:18:17 GMT 1, judging by the posts on the trollys anticipation thread (which i lived on before hospitilisation for the new condition banksyf5finger) you guys were lucky to have had no probs. several people did, and i guess you both picked up a nice b+w signed each!! wish we were all so lucky!!!
judging by the posts on the trollys anticipation thread (which i lived on before hospitilisation for the new condition banksyf5finger) you guys were lucky to have had no probs. several people did, and i guess you both picked up a nice b+w signed each!! wish we were all so lucky!!!
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stuey09
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Faile Site Update, by stuey09 on Nov 12, 2007 23:27:29 GMT 1, No I didn't pick up a signed B&W (I wish). My comment wasn't made from a personal perspective, but was based on the fact that the site didn't crash under pressure and everyone has an equal chance to get one. Also when a few more came back up, it gave people a second bite at the cherry. It's not a perfect way of selling the prints, but in general it worked well enough.
No I didn't pick up a signed B&W (I wish). My comment wasn't made from a personal perspective, but was based on the fact that the site didn't crash under pressure and everyone has an equal chance to get one. Also when a few more came back up, it gave people a second bite at the cherry. It's not a perfect way of selling the prints, but in general it worked well enough.
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yeah7
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January 2007
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Faile Site Update, by yeah7 on Nov 12, 2007 23:50:19 GMT 1, I'll stay out of this. Nothing really takes my fancy and it's all a bit too expensive for me, I'll wait to see what POW offers.
I'll stay out of this. Nothing really takes my fancy and it's all a bit too expensive for me, I'll wait to see what POW offers.
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Faile Site Update, by eddiedangerous on Nov 12, 2007 23:52:41 GMT 1, fair play. but all the same il'll pm you if luck favours me in the faile que! (all fingers are crossed)
i'm bitter over the pow system because it is very hard for me in my job to be by the internet all day long on a whim and a prayer, hoping that I hit f5 at the correct time, i mean a month is 44640 minutes and thats a lot of time at a desk somewhere!!!! a the system definately seems to favour the office bods or the home ridden!!
fair play. but all the same il'll pm you if luck favours me in the faile que! (all fingers are crossed)
i'm bitter over the pow system because it is very hard for me in my job to be by the internet all day long on a whim and a prayer, hoping that I hit f5 at the correct time, i mean a month is 44640 minutes and thats a lot of time at a desk somewhere!!!! a the system definately seems to favour the office bods or the home ridden!!
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Faile Site Update, by eddiedangerous on Nov 12, 2007 23:54:13 GMT 1, where as faile leaves it purely in the hands of the gods!!
where as faile leaves it purely in the hands of the gods!!
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Faile Site Update, by sausageboonwee on Nov 12, 2007 23:56:51 GMT 1, I'm sure I'll be corrected but don't these prices seem fairly high?
I'm sure I'll be corrected but don't these prices seem fairly high?
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Faile Site Update, by eddiedangerous on Nov 13, 2007 0:02:03 GMT 1, having said all that if rude copper is next, i'm quitting to press f5 forever and then my only distraction will be my landlord knocking at the door!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
having said all that if rude copper is next, i'm quitting to press f5 forever and then my only distraction will be my landlord knocking at the door!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Faile Site Update, by buster on Nov 13, 2007 0:02:34 GMT 1, I'm sure I'll be corrected but don't these prices seem fairly high?
I'm sure I'll be corrected but don't these prices seem fairly high? lokking at the edition sizes, costs of the originals and quality of the images compared to recent releases, I thought they were quite low. |
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Faile Site Update, by arcam on Nov 13, 2007 0:03:25 GMT 1, where as faile leaves it purely in the hands of the gods!!
No it leaves it in the hands of FairQ.
I appreciate what you are saying but both systems have their flaws. I'm not buying into that this lottery is like the answer to all our prayers. It's not, it's just another way of selling prints, no more no less.
where as faile leaves it purely in the hands of the gods!! No it leaves it in the hands of FairQ. I appreciate what you are saying but both systems have their flaws. I'm not buying into that this lottery is like the answer to all our prayers. It's not, it's just another way of selling prints, no more no less. |
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dime683
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November 2007
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Faile Site Update, by dime683 on Nov 13, 2007 0:06:23 GMT 1, i give props to faile for trying something different. you cant make everyone happy. i have met patrick a few times and he is one of the nicest people i have met in the art world. not to mention sending out print to the people that got jacked by pay pal. i wish it was a normal release as i watched the prints popping up today, but its good they are trying new things.
i give props to faile for trying something different. you cant make everyone happy. i have met patrick a few times and he is one of the nicest people i have met in the art world. not to mention sending out print to the people that got jacked by pay pal. i wish it was a normal release as i watched the prints popping up today, but its good they are trying new things.
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dkla
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February 2007
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Faile Site Update, by dkla on Nov 13, 2007 0:32:20 GMT 1, Amen - those guys are doing it right. Good for them - I'm sure it will prove successful. And hopefully the process will be adopted by other galleries down the road [read: POW]. FAILE rock!
Amen - those guys are doing it right. Good for them - I'm sure it will prove successful. And hopefully the process will be adopted by other galleries down the road [read: POW]. FAILE rock!
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mainartery
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September 2007
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Faile Site Update, by mainartery on Nov 13, 2007 1:46:29 GMT 1, Momento Mori Remix, i'm in, good luck guys
Momento Mori Remix, i'm in, good luck guys
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Faile Site Update, by Gentle Mental on Nov 13, 2007 2:10:22 GMT 1, Only 29 pieces equals a lot of angry losers... Poor faile might just get burned for doing the right thing...sigh
Only 29 pieces equals a lot of angry losers... Poor faile might just get burned for doing the right thing...sigh
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Dead Elvis
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Faile Site Update, by Dead Elvis on Nov 13, 2007 2:14:35 GMT 1, Don't like any of it to be honest. Sorry guys. Give me an u/s Banksy any day...
Agreed. Some are interesting, but none really held my attention. I like the preview system. Curious to see how it pans out...
Don't like any of it to be honest. Sorry guys. Give me an u/s Banksy any day... Agreed. Some are interesting, but none really held my attention. I like the preview system. Curious to see how it pans out... |
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michaelscott
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Faile Site Update, by michaelscott on Nov 13, 2007 3:04:11 GMT 1, Only 29 pieces equals a lot of angry losers... Poor faile will might just get buirned for doing the right thing... Sigh
You bet they will. Too bad they didn't do this on the last batch of releases, when there were multiples of each item...
With 29 pieces, the general feedback will not be as positive as it should be...or might have been on the last batch.
But then again, if it were the last batch, chances are the "flippers" wouldn't have those cool "free faile" prints to sell.
I sincerely hope, that all the good guys(and gals)on the forum, that enter, win one. (and, IMHO, Faile's efforts and approach to have a better system, is much stronger then the wares they have for sale.)
Only 29 pieces equals a lot of angry losers... Poor faile will might just get buirned for doing the right thing... Sigh You bet they will. Too bad they didn't do this on the last batch of releases, when there were multiples of each item... With 29 pieces, the general feedback will not be as positive as it should be...or might have been on the last batch. But then again, if it were the last batch, chances are the "flippers" wouldn't have those cool "free faile" prints to sell. I sincerely hope, that all the good guys(and gals)on the forum, that enter, win one. (and, IMHO, Faile's efforts and approach to have a better system, is much stronger then the wares they have for sale.) |
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Faile Site Update, by darjeeling on Nov 13, 2007 3:13:20 GMT 1, Again... what makes YOU more deserving? Because you are at a computer right now? SomeONE is going to get it either way. Discussion over? No it's not over... Do you not understand the point that this way gives the galleries/flippers/thier partners/their mothers more chance of getting it than the fan. Fans of Faile would have known a release is today and planned for it. Just like we knew POW were going to release Trolleys when they did... First come, first served... not 8592nd served because their son told them to register to give them an extra chance in the lottery...
I can see your point and would normally agree that those fans dedicated enough to monitor the sites and wake themselves up at ungodly hours or do whatever they have to do to fight for a print might deserve it more than those who just decided to take a look see whenever they found the time or because they read a hot tip on a log or something.
but, ...do you really think 10,000 people are going to be registering for each print? These things are NOT cheap. Prices keep going up with these guys and I think they've reached a point where people are going to check themselves before spending. And the images for the most part aren't that strong in my opinion. Plus the originals are pretty small. I'm a big fan of their work but if it helps I'm not registering. And even if I was interested. I'd feel weird ab out asking my mom, brother and friends to register with faile so they have a chance to win me a $6,000 print. That I'll give them the money for. It would start getting pretty convoluted.
ANd these prints aren't going to be an easy flip. At least not for any serious profit. Least not in my opinion. Prices on practically everything are struggling right now.
Again... what makes YOU more deserving? Because you are at a computer right now? SomeONE is going to get it either way. Discussion over? No it's not over... Do you not understand the point that this way gives the galleries/flippers/thier partners/their mothers more chance of getting it than the fan. Fans of Faile would have known a release is today and planned for it. Just like we knew POW were going to release Trolleys when they did... First come, first served... not 8592nd served because their son told them to register to give them an extra chance in the lottery... I can see your point and would normally agree that those fans dedicated enough to monitor the sites and wake themselves up at ungodly hours or do whatever they have to do to fight for a print might deserve it more than those who just decided to take a look see whenever they found the time or because they read a hot tip on a log or something. but, ...do you really think 10,000 people are going to be registering for each print? These things are NOT cheap. Prices keep going up with these guys and I think they've reached a point where people are going to check themselves before spending. And the images for the most part aren't that strong in my opinion. Plus the originals are pretty small. I'm a big fan of their work but if it helps I'm not registering. And even if I was interested. I'd feel weird ab out asking my mom, brother and friends to register with faile so they have a chance to win me a $6,000 print. That I'll give them the money for. It would start getting pretty convoluted. ANd these prints aren't going to be an easy flip. At least not for any serious profit. Least not in my opinion. Prices on practically everything are struggling right now. |
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jamesreeve5
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Faile Site Update, by jamesreeve5 on Nov 13, 2007 8:14:28 GMT 1, So how does this lottery exactly work? I read the general rules, but I'm a bit confused about the 1 piece per lottery thing. Does this mean that if you win a piece you are automatically voided from the lotteries you have entered for other pieces? Are you only allowed to enter one lottery? It is all a bit confusing to me...
So how does this lottery exactly work? I read the general rules, but I'm a bit confused about the 1 piece per lottery thing. Does this mean that if you win a piece you are automatically voided from the lotteries you have entered for other pieces? Are you only allowed to enter one lottery? It is all a bit confusing to me...
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motor
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December 2006
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Faile Site Update, by motor on Nov 13, 2007 8:23:21 GMT 1, So how does this lottery exactly work? I read the general rules, but I'm a bit confused about the 1 piece per lottery thing. Does this mean that if you win a piece you are automatically voided from the lotteries you have entered for other pieces? Are you only allowed to enter one lottery? It is all a bit confusing to me...
Enter all you like. You can win only one. If you lucky and win two (or more) they will contact you and give you the choice which one you want.
So how does this lottery exactly work? I read the general rules, but I'm a bit confused about the 1 piece per lottery thing. Does this mean that if you win a piece you are automatically voided from the lotteries you have entered for other pieces? Are you only allowed to enter one lottery? It is all a bit confusing to me... Enter all you like. You can win only one. If you lucky and win two (or more) they will contact you and give you the choice which one you want. |
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jamesreeve5
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Faile Site Update, by jamesreeve5 on Nov 13, 2007 8:25:07 GMT 1, thanks motor. +1 for the quick answer...
thanks motor. +1 for the quick answer...
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jamesreeve5
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Faile Site Update, by jamesreeve5 on Nov 13, 2007 8:39:32 GMT 1, This lottery might be good in the long run. With so many smaller, cheaper originals in this sale it will be easy for the people at faile to track down ebay flippers and exclude them from future purchasing.
This lottery might be good in the long run. With so many smaller, cheaper originals in this sale it will be easy for the people at faile to track down ebay flippers and exclude them from future purchasing.
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sputnikeye
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August 2006
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Faile Site Update, by sputnikeye on Nov 13, 2007 8:49:49 GMT 1, There wouldn't be a lottery if there weren't flippers flipping and Faile prices wouldn't be so high
There wouldn't be a lottery if there weren't flippers flipping and Faile prices wouldn't be so high
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