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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Apr 2, 2016 12:36:58 GMT 1, They want ยฃ325 for a lite of it. Expensive in my book but horses for course I guess.
They want ยฃ325 for a lite of it. Expensive in my book but horses for course I guess.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by treweman on Apr 2, 2016 14:46:41 GMT 1, Museum glass is wonderful until you have to clean it. My framer (a local gallery owner) shared with me that a new museum glass technology is just around the corner (release to be sometime this summer) that finally addresses this problem. If it were easier to maintain, I would use it on more art. Now, I just use museum glass on the most expensive pieces that are small enough to make the difference in price worth the extra clarity and protection.
Museum glass is wonderful until you have to clean it. My framer (a local gallery owner) shared with me that a new museum glass technology is just around the corner (release to be sometime this summer) that finally addresses this problem. If it were easier to maintain, I would use it on more art. Now, I just use museum glass on the most expensive pieces that are small enough to make the difference in price worth the extra clarity and protection.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 9:38:56 GMT 1,
I've used this in our house where we have a room with a lot of windows. Easy to put up yourself and basically invisible if you're careful.
Have been trying to put some on a 1m by 1.5m skylight though and have had to admit defeat and pay for an expert to come and do it.
Most of my art is framed with an anti-reflective glass that I've been reliably informed is about 65-70% UV proof so I work on the basis that even if this isn't 99% we should be just about be OK! Also nothing is actually hung in direct sunlight.
I've used this in our house where we have a room with a lot of windows. Easy to put up yourself and basically invisible if you're careful. Have been trying to put some on a 1m by 1.5m skylight though and have had to admit defeat and pay for an expert to come and do it. Most of my art is framed with an anti-reflective glass that I've been reliably informed is about 65-70% UV proof so I work on the basis that even if this isn't 99% we should be just about be OK! Also nothing is actually hung in direct sunlight. |
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by pressman on Apr 9, 2016 9:42:31 GMT 1, I've seen film applied poorly so many times. It's worth bearing in mind that if it's applied on the internal face of double glazing, it can cause the glass to crack.
I've seen film applied poorly so many times. It's worth bearing in mind that if it's applied on the internal face of double glazing, it can cause the glass to crack. |
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by kaos on Apr 9, 2016 10:00:34 GMT 1, I've used this in our house where we have a room with a lot of windows. Easy to put up yourself and basically invisible if you're careful. Have been trying to put some on a 1m by 1.5m skylight though and have had to admit defeat and pay for an expert to come and do it. Most of my art is framed with an anti-reflective glass that I've been reliably informed is about 65-70% UV proof so I work on the basis that even if this isn't 99% we should be just about be OK! Also nothing is actually hung in direct sunlight.
EKAP, how easy is it to clean?
Pressman thanks for the heads up on the double glazing issue.
I've used this in our house where we have a room with a lot of windows. Easy to put up yourself and basically invisible if you're careful. Have been trying to put some on a 1m by 1.5m skylight though and have had to admit defeat and pay for an expert to come and do it. Most of my art is framed with an anti-reflective glass that I've been reliably informed is about 65-70% UV proof so I work on the basis that even if this isn't 99% we should be just about be OK! Also nothing is actually hung in direct sunlight. I have a large stairwell with a lot of wall space which I'd like to turn into a gallery but the problem is it has a lot of windows. I was looking at the cost of replacing the glass with UV protection glass and then I came across this film. EKAP, how easy is it to clean? Pressman thanks for the heads up on the double glazing issue. |
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iamzero
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Apr 9, 2016 11:38:24 GMT 1, Normal window glass is around 60% uv filtered anyway I believe.
Normal window glass is around 60% uv filtered anyway I believe.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by jmds on Apr 26, 2016 17:06:33 GMT 1, Does anyone know if it's possible to check the quality of glass used within a frame? I've had something framed recently and I've got a feeling that I haven't got what I asked/paid for with regards to the level of anti-reflection which also gives me concerns about the level of UV protection.
How do others go about checking that what they've been given is what they were expecting?
Does anyone know if it's possible to check the quality of glass used within a frame? I've had something framed recently and I've got a feeling that I haven't got what I asked/paid for with regards to the level of anti-reflection which also gives me concerns about the level of UV protection.
How do others go about checking that what they've been given is what they were expecting?
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Segment on Apr 26, 2016 17:45:08 GMT 1, If the glass has a blue/green hue to it in the reflections it gives then its defo got a AR coat on it.
On the UV side of things your gunna be hard pushed to find out i reakon, unless it's lazer etched/coded by its manufacturer.
If the glass has a blue/green hue to it in the reflections it gives then its defo got a AR coat on it.
On the UV side of things your gunna be hard pushed to find out i reakon, unless it's lazer etched/coded by its manufacturer.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Happy Shopper on Apr 26, 2016 17:55:49 GMT 1, Anti-reflection isn't always perfect. It depends on the light... but you should notice it not being quite so shiny.
UV protection glass often has a pinkish/purple hue to reflections.
Anti-reflection isn't always perfect. It depends on the light... but you should notice it not being quite so shiny.
UV protection glass often has a pinkish/purple hue to reflections.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Apr 26, 2016 20:47:23 GMT 1, Con clear glass you can see the slight orange tint and ripples in the coating. Krystall preservation has a greenish hue to it.
Con clear glass you can see the slight orange tint and ripples in the coating. Krystall preservation has a greenish hue to it.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by chads007 on Apr 27, 2016 11:16:07 GMT 1, Museum glass normally gives a greenish tinge/reflections I know for truvue
Standard glass is quite 'flat' and doesn't have the rippling of conservation glass
Museum glass normally gives a greenish tinge/reflections I know for truvue
Standard glass is quite 'flat' and doesn't have the rippling of conservation glass
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by jmds on Apr 27, 2016 13:50:25 GMT 1, Cheers all. More and more convinced I've been ripped off. I've got to go back in at the weekend as they've managed to leave a small hair under the glass as well so I'll have a word with them then.
Cheers all. More and more convinced I've been ripped off. I've got to go back in at the weekend as they've managed to leave a small hair under the glass as well so I'll have a word with them then.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by yobaby on Dec 10, 2016 22:17:05 GMT 1, Apologies if this has already been posted but searching threads on a phone isn't ideal..
Found a local framer who's part of the fine art guild etc etc
Has quoted me prices on standard glass, UV protective and museum glass.
Long story short is that he honestly feels that the UV is a waste of money as modern prints have properties within the inks which are far more resilient than they used to be. Says hes happy to frame up using the UV stuff and charge me for it but feels it's not worth the extra cash.
Past framers I've used have never raised this topic with me, simply framing up with the UV as requested.
I know the majority of you use the UV so I'm curious to hear your honest opinions/thoughts on this.
** I understand that paper takes a hit when exposed to sunlight but do we honestly feel that our prints will be tarnished in 20-40 years time? **
Apologies if this has already been posted but searching threads on a phone isn't ideal..
Found a local framer who's part of the fine art guild etc etc
Has quoted me prices on standard glass, UV protective and museum glass.
Long story short is that he honestly feels that the UV is a waste of money as modern prints have properties within the inks which are far more resilient than they used to be. Says hes happy to frame up using the UV stuff and charge me for it but feels it's not worth the extra cash.
Past framers I've used have never raised this topic with me, simply framing up with the UV as requested.
I know the majority of you use the UV so I'm curious to hear your honest opinions/thoughts on this.
** I understand that paper takes a hit when exposed to sunlight but do we honestly feel that our prints will be tarnished in 20-40 years time? **
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by pinkerton on Dec 11, 2016 0:06:16 GMT 1, I use UV mainly because of anti reflectiveness. Cant stand the mirror effect normal glass gives!
I use UV mainly because of anti reflectiveness. Cant stand the mirror effect normal glass gives!
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by thugs on Dec 11, 2016 0:23:46 GMT 1, Apologies if this has already been posted but searching threads on a phone isn't ideal.. Found a local framer who's part of the fine art guild etc etc Has quoted me prices on standard glass, UV protective and museum glass. Long story short is that he honestly feels that the UV is a waste of money as modern prints have properties within the inks which are far more resilient than they used to be. Says hes happy to frame up using the UV stuff and charge me for it but feels it's not worth the extra cash. Past framers I've used have never raised this topic with me, simply framing up with the UV as requested. I know the majority of you use the UV so I'm curious to hear your honest opinions/thoughts on this. ** I understand that paper takes a hit when exposed to sunlight but do we honestly feel that our prints will be tarnished in 20-40 years time? **
my framer has two identical prints framed side by side on the wall of his studio in bright natural light. one is glazed with uv, the other regular glass. both prints look identical after more than 10 years on the wall.
more often than not, problems down the line come from the damage uv light can cause to certain paper stocks, and indeed from the materials the print may be in contact with within a frame. external forces such as heat, humidity, pollutants in the air etc., should also be considered more worthy of attention and expense than uv filtering glass.
to this end, i insist on using only acid-free moldings and fillets, solidcore mountboard, and foil moisture barriers within all of my frames.
Apologies if this has already been posted but searching threads on a phone isn't ideal.. Found a local framer who's part of the fine art guild etc etc Has quoted me prices on standard glass, UV protective and museum glass. Long story short is that he honestly feels that the UV is a waste of money as modern prints have properties within the inks which are far more resilient than they used to be. Says hes happy to frame up using the UV stuff and charge me for it but feels it's not worth the extra cash. Past framers I've used have never raised this topic with me, simply framing up with the UV as requested. I know the majority of you use the UV so I'm curious to hear your honest opinions/thoughts on this. ** I understand that paper takes a hit when exposed to sunlight but do we honestly feel that our prints will be tarnished in 20-40 years time? ** you've found a good framer. my framer has two identical prints framed side by side on the wall of his studio in bright natural light. one is glazed with uv, the other regular glass. both prints look identical after more than 10 years on the wall. more often than not, problems down the line come from the damage uv light can cause to certain paper stocks, and indeed from the materials the print may be in contact with within a frame. external forces such as heat, humidity, pollutants in the air etc., should also be considered more worthy of attention and expense than uv filtering glass. to this end, i insist on using only acid-free moldings and fillets, solidcore mountboard, and foil moisture barriers within all of my frames. |
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by avec art on Dec 11, 2016 0:30:51 GMT 1, Be careful of some of the cheaper non reflect glass, as it can appear frosty and inhibit clear viewing.
Be careful of some of the cheaper non reflect glass, as it can appear frosty and inhibit clear viewing.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Dec 11, 2016 0:31:46 GMT 1, The price difference between uv and standard float glass shouldn't be that much but the jump to museum is crazy. I would always choose uv stuff where possible.
The price difference between uv and standard float glass shouldn't be that much but the jump to museum is crazy. I would always choose uv stuff where possible.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Dec 11, 2016 0:33:56 GMT 1, Be careful of some of the cheaper non reflect glass, as it can appear frosty and inhibit clear viewing.
It will appear frosted on float mounted pieces and anything deeper than one window mount due to the process they use to defract the light.
Be careful of some of the cheaper non reflect glass, as it can appear frosty and inhibit clear viewing. It will appear frosted on float mounted pieces and anything deeper than one window mount due to the process they use to defract the light. |
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by yobaby on Dec 11, 2016 10:51:39 GMT 1, Thanks for the feedback, always good to hear others opinions.
Thanks for the feedback, always good to hear others opinions.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by avec art on Dec 11, 2016 11:00:23 GMT 1, I think that's the difference between standard anti reflect UV and what they call non reflect museum glass. Yes the price jump is huge, but with the much more expensive museum glass, it performs the same functions but without the frosty effect seen with cheaper non reflect glass.
I think that's the difference between standard anti reflect UV and what they call non reflect museum glass. Yes the price jump is huge, but with the much more expensive museum glass, it performs the same functions but without the frosty effect seen with cheaper non reflect glass.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by john4444 on Dec 11, 2016 12:21:16 GMT 1, Not true...
There are so many variables involved, chemistry is complicated and ongoing. If you have something of value or something you want to change as slowly as possible, use good uv glass and do not display in direct sunlight. That will reduce the rate of reaction. Uv is a major catalyst.
Cheers, john
Not true...
There are so many variables involved, chemistry is complicated and ongoing. If you have something of value or something you want to change as slowly as possible, use good uv glass and do not display in direct sunlight. That will reduce the rate of reaction. Uv is a major catalyst.
Cheers, john
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 13:07:09 GMT 1, If framing on a budget, normal glass and keep the art out of sunlight and ultraviolet light is normal.
If you don't mind paying extra and prefer glass which is non reflective when you look at the art, then go for UV.
Other things to consider in countries which have damp cold weather is condensation and damp and mould.
If framing on a budget, normal glass and keep the art out of sunlight and ultraviolet light is normal.
If you don't mind paying extra and prefer glass which is non reflective when you look at the art, then go for UV.
Other things to consider in countries which have damp cold weather is condensation and damp and mould.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by avec art on Dec 11, 2016 13:21:56 GMT 1, I use UV mainly because of anti reflectiveness. Cant stand the mirror effect normal glass gives!
On a side note, some museums or exhibitors will actually refuse to take framed pictures if they are housed behind non reflect glass. I think it may have something to do with the fact they can be considered a danger when putting up. I wonder if anyone else has come across this.
I use UV mainly because of anti reflectiveness. Cant stand the mirror effect normal glass gives! I think there is some confusion here which needs to be cleared up. Anti UV light glass is not necessarily the same thing as non-reflect glass. You can get standard anti UV which is not non-reflect. On a side note, some museums or exhibitors will actually refuse to take framed pictures if they are housed behind non reflect glass. I think it may have something to do with the fact they can be considered a danger when putting up. I wonder if anyone else has come across this. |
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by pinkerton on Dec 11, 2016 13:43:12 GMT 1, I use UV mainly because of anti reflectiveness. Cant stand the mirror effect normal glass gives! I think there is some confusion here which needs to be cleared up. Anti UV light glass is not necessarily the same thing as non-reflect glass. You can get standard anti UV which is not non-reflect. On a side note, some museums or exhibitors will actually refuse to take framed pictures if they are housed behind non reflect glass. I think it may have something to do with the fact they can be considered a danger when putting up. I wonder if anyone else has come across this.
I use UV mainly because of anti reflectiveness. Cant stand the mirror effect normal glass gives! I think there is some confusion here which needs to be cleared up. Anti UV light glass is not necessarily the same thing as non-reflect glass. You can get standard anti UV which is not non-reflect. On a side note, some museums or exhibitors will actually refuse to take framed pictures if they are housed behind non reflect glass. I think it may have something to do with the fact they can be considered a danger when putting up. I wonder if anyone else has come across this. Ok! Probably correct. |
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by pingoo on Dec 11, 2016 14:21:44 GMT 1, I try to have the best pieces of my favorite artists, they deserve the best framing. Museum always.
(i never framed a piece larger than 60cm though, the price stay correct in this proportion).
I try to have the best pieces of my favorite artists, they deserve the best framing. Museum always.
(i never framed a piece larger than 60cm though, the price stay correct in this proportion).
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by ed on Dec 12, 2016 1:15:59 GMT 1, I decided to go for museum quality, low reflection as I intend to own everything I frame for years and years.
The costs are alot more than 'standard framing' and I'm really not a man of means but I'm doing my collection slowly and what I perceive to be well. I try and think about it spread over many years and the number of times I'll look at them.
For me, the low reflective quality is incredible - almost as if there is no glass at all and when put next to reflective glass is astonishing.
UV stuff is for piece of mind but I'm willing to accept that that might be a slight waste of money with some of the things I'm framing.
I would plump for low glare / reflection glass above everything as it changes the viewing experience. My assumption has always been that it only comes in UV glass so that decision is made for me also.
I decided to go for museum quality, low reflection as I intend to own everything I frame for years and years.
The costs are alot more than 'standard framing' and I'm really not a man of means but I'm doing my collection slowly and what I perceive to be well. I try and think about it spread over many years and the number of times I'll look at them.
For me, the low reflective quality is incredible - almost as if there is no glass at all and when put next to reflective glass is astonishing.
UV stuff is for piece of mind but I'm willing to accept that that might be a slight waste of money with some of the things I'm framing.
I would plump for low glare / reflection glass above everything as it changes the viewing experience. My assumption has always been that it only comes in UV glass so that decision is made for me also.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by searchandrescue on Dec 12, 2016 13:08:25 GMT 1, I decided to go for museum quality, low reflection as I intend to own everything I frame for years and years. The costs are alot more than 'standard framing' and I'm really not a man of means but I'm doing my collection slowly and what I perceive to be well. I try and think about it spread over many years and the number of times I'll look at them. For me, the low reflective quality is incredible - almost as if there is no glass at all and when put next to reflective glass is astonishing. UV stuff is for piece of mind but I'm willing to accept that that might be a slight waste of money with some of the things I'm framing. I would plump for low glare / reflection glass above everything as it changes the viewing experience. My assumption has always been that it only comes in UV glass so that decision is made for me also.
I decided to go for museum quality, low reflection as I intend to own everything I frame for years and years. The costs are alot more than 'standard framing' and I'm really not a man of means but I'm doing my collection slowly and what I perceive to be well. I try and think about it spread over many years and the number of times I'll look at them. For me, the low reflective quality is incredible - almost as if there is no glass at all and when put next to reflective glass is astonishing. UV stuff is for piece of mind but I'm willing to accept that that might be a slight waste of money with some of the things I'm framing. I would plump for low glare / reflection glass above everything as it changes the viewing experience. My assumption has always been that it only comes in UV glass so that decision is made for me also. ....a great way of looking at it ed, much of what I do / have, has to have a long term value, sometimes very long value!! Eeeck! If you believe something has value you must be able to set aside for its upkeep over the long term. |
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