crkohler
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by crkohler on Dec 12, 2016 15:17:34 GMT 1, As most have mentioned above, lot of factors to consider (amount of light, value of the piece, number of mats, paper stock, ect). I've used Museum (multiple mats) or UV (single mat)on everything I've framed more as a precaution because my house has large amounts of natural light that can hit prints directly at certain times of the day. I don't think the difference between standard glass and UV would make much of a difference over a decade or two on the wall but for me the price difference between glass it was worth it for me to avoid any unnecessary worrying 
As most have mentioned above, lot of factors to consider (amount of light, value of the piece, number of mats, paper stock, ect). I've used Museum (multiple mats) or UV (single mat)on everything I've framed more as a precaution because my house has large amounts of natural light that can hit prints directly at certain times of the day. I don't think the difference between standard glass and UV would make much of a difference over a decade or two on the wall but for me the price difference between glass it was worth it for me to avoid any unnecessary worrying |
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james10
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by james10 on Dec 14, 2016 17:07:46 GMT 1, my framer told me that an anti reflective glass (non UV) is a good choice when you are talking about a 3/400ยฃ print - of course you dont have to put it under direct sunlights.
She also told me that when it comes to anti reflective glass, you dont have to use spacers, as:
1) the print will not stick to it as the anti reflective glass is not completely flat (or something like that)
2) if you use spacers, the image will result opaque;
I do trust her as she does amazing frames, but what you think?
Should i use no spacers with an anti reflective glass and not worry about the print sticking to it?
my framer told me that an anti reflective glass (non UV) is a good choice when you are talking about a 3/400ยฃ print - of course you dont have to put it under direct sunlights.
She also told me that when it comes to anti reflective glass, you dont have to use spacers, as:
1) the print will not stick to it as the anti reflective glass is not completely flat (or something like that)
2) if you use spacers, the image will result opaque;
I do trust her as she does amazing frames, but what you think?
Should i use no spacers with an anti reflective glass and not worry about the print sticking to it?
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Bazaaart
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Bazaaart on Dec 14, 2016 17:47:08 GMT 1, Working in the fine art industry for 20 years now there is a difference between using UV protected and non UV. However the UV protected glass is not 100% either. As time goes by images that are framed under UV and non UV will both show fading but the UV protected will show less fading.
For the pricing between both glasses the UV protected shouldnt be too much more. For the museum glass thats a different story as that stuff is quite expensive and very hard to handle for framers as it is very sensitive.
Working in the fine art industry for 20 years now there is a difference between using UV protected and non UV. However the UV protected glass is not 100% either. As time goes by images that are framed under UV and non UV will both show fading but the UV protected will show less fading.
For the pricing between both glasses the UV protected shouldnt be too much more. For the museum glass thats a different story as that stuff is quite expensive and very hard to handle for framers as it is very sensitive.
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james10
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by james10 on Dec 14, 2016 17:58:40 GMT 1, the UV glass it is expensive too, at least here in Italy. we are talking about a 20โฌ for anti reflective glass vs 180/200โฌ for a UV protected glass..
Anyway, what about not using spacers with the antireflective glass?
Is what my framer says true or shoud i put spacers anyway, even if the print will look opaque?
the UV glass it is expensive too, at least here in Italy. we are talking about a 20โฌ for anti reflective glass vs 180/200โฌ for a UV protected glass..
Anyway, what about not using spacers with the antireflective glass?
Is what my framer says true or shoud i put spacers anyway, even if the print will look opaque?
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Bazaaart
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Bazaaart on Dec 14, 2016 18:15:08 GMT 1, Whats somewhat bad about spacers is that there is more air sealed inside the framing which down the road and we mean in a longtime could yellow the print.
Whats somewhat bad about spacers is that there is more air sealed inside the framing which down the road and we mean in a longtime could yellow the print.
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iamzero
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Dec 14, 2016 18:50:11 GMT 1, The glass should never be in contact with the art regardless if it's uv, non reflective or museum glass. A space between the art and the glazing should always be used in the form of a window mount or actual spacers in the frame rebate.
The glass should never be in contact with the art regardless if it's uv, non reflective or museum glass. A space between the art and the glazing should always be used in the form of a window mount or actual spacers in the frame rebate.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by sptembergurl on Apr 10, 2017 21:39:39 GMT 1, Hello,
I just received this Banksy Thrower as a gift. It is in direct sunlight for about 1 hr a day. It was purchased from an art gallery that said they received it framed from the artist. I asked the gallery rep if he knew if it would be well protected as-is but he didn't say 100%. He said this type of Brainwash work has a gloss on it to protect it but I am wondering if it's typically enough. Anyone have advice or experience with this?
Many thanks!
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Hello, I just received this Banksy Thrower as a gift. It is in direct sunlight for about 1 hr a day. It was purchased from an art gallery that said they received it framed from the artist. I asked the gallery rep if he knew if it would be well protected as-is but he didn't say 100%. He said this type of Brainwash work has a gloss on it to protect it but I am wondering if it's typically enough. Anyone have advice or experience with this? Many thanks! posted image |
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randomname
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by randomname on Apr 10, 2017 21:57:46 GMT 1, The bad news is it'll fade over time. Given that it's a MBW, that's also the good news.
The bad news is it'll fade over time. Given that it's a MBW, that's also the good news.
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Jaylove
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Jaylove on Apr 10, 2017 22:06:52 GMT 1, Nice piece.
Nice piece.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by sptembergurl on Apr 10, 2017 22:23:02 GMT 1, The bad news is it'll fade over time. Given that it's a Mr Brainwash, that's also the good news.
The bad news is it'll fade over time. Given that it's a Mr Brainwash, that's also the good news. What is this is, TMZ? Just looking for framing advice, was not asking if you loved it. |
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wrigs
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by wrigs on Sept 13, 2017 18:29:00 GMT 1, Just wondered how much extra this typically costs and what sort of price point on a print (appreciate subjective) you would typically consider using?
Just wondered how much extra this typically costs and what sort of price point on a print (appreciate subjective) you would typically consider using?
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aml
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by aml on Sept 13, 2017 18:32:04 GMT 1, The extra cost varies with size, so it's hard to put an exact dollar figure on it.
With the exception of bathroom art, I put Museum glass or Optium Museum acrylic on everything I frame, regardless of what it originally cost. In my mind, if it's worth framing, it's worth doing right, and to me, right means seeing the art with clarity.
The extra cost varies with size, so it's hard to put an exact dollar figure on it.
With the exception of bathroom art, I put Museum glass or Optium Museum acrylic on everything I frame, regardless of what it originally cost. In my mind, if it's worth framing, it's worth doing right, and to me, right means seeing the art with clarity.
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livia
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by livia on Sept 14, 2017 8:03:23 GMT 1, I've typically found for a standard-ish size frame for a print ~23"x30", museum glass is usually an extra ~$120 from uv glass but as said, it varies depending on size, where you live, etc.
I've typically found for a standard-ish size frame for a print ~23"x30", museum glass is usually an extra ~$120 from uv glass but as said, it varies depending on size, where you live, etc.
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Dust Buster
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Dust Buster on Sept 14, 2017 12:33:59 GMT 1, I've typically found for a standard-ish size frame for a print ~23"x30", museum glass is usually an extra ~$120 from uv glass but as said, it varies depending on size, where you live, etc.
This is roughly my experience too.
I've typically found for a standard-ish size frame for a print ~23"x30", museum glass is usually an extra ~$120 from uv glass but as said, it varies depending on size, where you live, etc. This is roughly my experience too. |
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by poplux on Sept 14, 2017 13:06:26 GMT 1, I've typically found for a standard-ish size frame for a print ~23"x30", museum glass is usually an extra ~$120 from uv glass but as said, it varies depending on size, where you live, etc. This is roughly my experience too.
The same here in Luxembourg, approx same price.
I've typically found for a standard-ish size frame for a print ~23"x30", museum glass is usually an extra ~$120 from uv glass but as said, it varies depending on size, where you live, etc. This is roughly my experience too. The same here in Luxembourg, approx same price. |
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chevyav53
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by chevyav53 on Sept 14, 2017 13:12:45 GMT 1, Agreed, same experience on cost. It's worth it especially if there are any windows around and the potential for glare. You won't regret the additional cost but may regret not getting it then want to replace at which point it will cost you more.
Agreed, same experience on cost. It's worth it especially if there are any windows around and the potential for glare. You won't regret the additional cost but may regret not getting it then want to replace at which point it will cost you more.
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Dive Jedi
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Dive Jedi on Sept 14, 2017 13:13:18 GMT 1, I've never had anything framed, since I don't even have room for all my canvasses.
But could someone make a list of quality for my reference, please.
Museum / AR / UV / Standard etc.....
Would be very helpful.
I've never had anything framed, since I don't even have room for all my canvasses.
But could someone make a list of quality for my reference, please.
Museum / AR / UV / Standard etc.....
Would be very helpful.
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nighthawk
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by nighthawk on Sept 14, 2017 15:07:59 GMT 1, Technically...
museum optium acrylic > museum glass
Then you have to choose between AR over the UV stuff. The AR normally comes in around 70% blockage I think, which is perfectly fine if the piece sees no light at all, and is floating (IMO). I've talked about this with a few framers, and the paper used will dictate whether the print will fade or not. In most cases, it's highly unlikely (if it never sees light). And you get no reflection!
The 99% UV stuff obviously blocks out more rays, but you get massive reflections.
Technically...
museum optium acrylic > museum glass
Then you have to choose between AR over the UV stuff. The AR normally comes in around 70% blockage I think, which is perfectly fine if the piece sees no light at all, and is floating (IMO). I've talked about this with a few framers, and the paper used will dictate whether the print will fade or not. In most cases, it's highly unlikely (if it never sees light). And you get no reflection!
The 99% UV stuff obviously blocks out more rays, but you get massive reflections.
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chevyav53
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by chevyav53 on Sept 14, 2017 15:21:06 GMT 1, Then you have to factor in the toddler effect. Don't put museum glass in a room with flying objects. Also, don't live near enough to the ocean but I heard you needed to be careful with glass in such environments as well.
Then you have to factor in the toddler effect. Don't put museum glass in a room with flying objects. Also, don't live near enough to the ocean but I heard you needed to be careful with glass in such environments as well.
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theblank
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by theblank on Sept 14, 2017 15:38:51 GMT 1, The 99% UV stuff obviously blokes out more rays, but you get massive reflections. 
The 99% UV stuff obviously blokes out more rays, but you get massive reflections. I found this out the hard way. I went with UV plexi so I could put some work up in a very bright room. It was sold to me as non-reflective, but the art is safe |
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nighthawk
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by nighthawk on Sept 14, 2017 15:52:34 GMT 1, No art is safe in direct light unfortunately.
Was it window mounted or floated? What was the noticeable damage?
No art is safe in direct light unfortunately.
Was it window mounted or floated? What was the noticeable damage?
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jbelleit
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by jbelleit on Sept 14, 2017 16:07:42 GMT 1, While I am no expert, I have always gone with conservation glass with 99% uv protection. Yes, it has some reflections, but I hope it causes the least amount of uv change to my prints. acrylic is lighter than glass (and doesn't shatter), but costs a lot more. And when my framer has showed me the museum glass, it actually takes away some of the detail from the print (or at least that is what he showed me on my Scattercrow). I couldn't see any detail change with museum glass on my FAILE's, but in the end I didn't go with it because of cost.
While I am no expert, I have always gone with conservation glass with 99% uv protection. Yes, it has some reflections, but I hope it causes the least amount of uv change to my prints. acrylic is lighter than glass (and doesn't shatter), but costs a lot more. And when my framer has showed me the museum glass, it actually takes away some of the detail from the print (or at least that is what he showed me on my Scattercrow). I couldn't see any detail change with museum glass on my FAILE's, but in the end I didn't go with it because of cost.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Happy Shopper on Sept 14, 2017 16:26:39 GMT 1, I don't mind a bit of reflection when framing prints... in fact shiny glass can make colours brighter and blacks blacker. I only have the fancy non reflective stuff on a couple of originals where I want to see the texture.
(all with best possible UV protection though)
I don't mind a bit of reflection when framing prints... in fact shiny glass can make colours brighter and blacks blacker. I only have the fancy non reflective stuff on a couple of originals where I want to see the texture.
(all with best possible UV protection though)
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racket
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by racket on Sept 14, 2017 16:32:50 GMT 1, I go for museum if it's valuable to me or a particular favourite given how much more expensive it is.
I go for museum if it's valuable to me or a particular favourite given how much more expensive it is.
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Pipes
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Pipes on Sept 14, 2017 16:38:48 GMT 1, Technically... museum optium acrylic > museum glass Then you have to choose between AR over the UV stuff. The AR normally comes in around 70% blockage I think, which is perfectly fine if the piece sees no light at all, and is floating (IMO). I've talked about this with a few framers, and the paper used will dictate whether the print will fade or not. In most cases, it's highly unlikely (if it never sees light). And you get no reflection! The 99% UV stuff obviously blocks out more rays, but you get massive reflections.
Isn't the museum plexiglass both non-reflective and 99% protection
tru-vue.com/solution/optium-museum-acrylic/
Technically... museum optium acrylic > museum glass Then you have to choose between AR over the UV stuff. The AR normally comes in around 70% blockage I think, which is perfectly fine if the piece sees no light at all, and is floating (IMO). I've talked about this with a few framers, and the paper used will dictate whether the print will fade or not. In most cases, it's highly unlikely (if it never sees light). And you get no reflection! The 99% UV stuff obviously blocks out more rays, but you get massive reflections. Isn't the museum plexiglass both non-reflective and 99% protection tru-vue.com/solution/optium-museum-acrylic/ |
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aml
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by aml on Sept 14, 2017 16:40:24 GMT 1, Yes, it is. Same for Museum glass.
Yes, it is. Same for Museum glass.
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wrigs
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by wrigs on Sept 14, 2017 17:34:14 GMT 1, Thanks all, some good info here
Thanks all, some good info here
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by NYart on Sept 14, 2017 20:07:25 GMT 1, I got the Tru Vue UV on most of my prints and added UV window film to some smaller pieces (5x7 - 8x10). Does the trick and the glare doesnโt bother me. I did try Tru Vue with the reduced glare and it wasnโt worth the slight improvement over the standard UV. Still had a bit of glare and it had a noticeable film on it which was as distracting for me as a glare lol. So IMO either just go with the UV protection or splurg on the museum if itโs worth it to you.
I got the Tru Vue UV on most of my prints and added UV window film to some smaller pieces (5x7 - 8x10). Does the trick and the glare doesnโt bother me. I did try Tru Vue with the reduced glare and it wasnโt worth the slight improvement over the standard UV. Still had a bit of glare and it had a noticeable film on it which was as distracting for me as a glare lol. So IMO either just go with the UV protection or splurg on the museum if itโs worth it to you.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by jluhiex on Sept 14, 2017 20:12:10 GMT 1, Optium Museum Acrylic - high value, size limitations (larger pieces) but double the price of conservation acrylic and museum glass, anti-reflective.
Museum Glass - it's only marginally more than conservation clear so might as well get the anti-reflective.
Conservation Acrylic - larger pieces, save on weight, but will have reflection.
Conservation Clear Glass - lowest price
They also have an Ultravue product with 70% UV rejection but the price is so close to the Optium 99% you might as well pony up for the big dawg. There is no such thing as 100% protection, you can only slow the process. Of course we are talking about 20+ years? My framer had a few Warhol originals done on sketch paper that he displayed for a few years using the best of the best material. They still started to deteriorate and crumble after a few years.
Optium Museum Acrylic - high value, size limitations (larger pieces) but double the price of conservation acrylic and museum glass, anti-reflective.
Museum Glass - it's only marginally more than conservation clear so might as well get the anti-reflective.
Conservation Acrylic - larger pieces, save on weight, but will have reflection.
Conservation Clear Glass - lowest price
They also have an Ultravue product with 70% UV rejection but the price is so close to the Optium 99% you might as well pony up for the big dawg. There is no such thing as 100% protection, you can only slow the process. Of course we are talking about 20+ years? My framer had a few Warhol originals done on sketch paper that he displayed for a few years using the best of the best material. They still started to deteriorate and crumble after a few years.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by soupy on Sept 14, 2017 20:16:03 GMT 1, due to weight and fragility, i don't think i'll ever use glass again to frame.
i use UV AG acrylic for all my stuff nowadays.
due to weight and fragility, i don't think i'll ever use glass again to frame.
i use UV AG acrylic for all my stuff nowadays.
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