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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Anthony Styles on Jun 23, 2018 18:59:59 GMT 1, I would recommend museum glass for any high value prints, I always use it where possible. The difference is huge IMO.
Nothing like reflections taking away from a beautiful piece. In some cases the museum glass on my pieces is nearly invisible.
I'm sitting 2 feet away from a Huge Harland I Am The One, and I cant see a darn thing as a reflection. Totally different ballgame.
I would recommend museum glass for any high value prints, I always use it where possible. The difference is huge IMO.
Nothing like reflections taking away from a beautiful piece. In some cases the museum glass on my pieces is nearly invisible.
I'm sitting 2 feet away from a Huge Harland I Am The One, and I cant see a darn thing as a reflection. Totally different ballgame.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by mrbagel on Jun 24, 2018 1:32:09 GMT 1, Ultravue 70. The best clarity (better than MG), 70% UV protection. 1/3 the cost of MG.
Ultravue 70. The best clarity (better than MG), 70% UV protection. 1/3 the cost of MG.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by lg2771 on Dec 11, 2018 2:15:25 GMT 1, Has anyone been through the process of changing the glass on their frame? I'm about to buy a framed piece that isn't UV and was wondering if it's a pain to get it swapped out.
Has anyone been through the process of changing the glass on their frame? I'm about to buy a framed piece that isn't UV and was wondering if it's a pain to get it swapped out.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by WILLYBKLN on Dec 11, 2018 2:27:50 GMT 1, Def not, any framer would do it for probably like 50-100$ plus cost of the UV glazing you'd like.
Def not, any framer would do it for probably like 50-100$ plus cost of the UV glazing you'd like.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by nobokov on Dec 11, 2018 3:25:57 GMT 1, Has anyone been through the process of changing the glass on their frame? I'm about to buy a framed piece that isn't UV and was wondering if it's a pain to get it swapped out. How is it framed currently, matted or floated with spacers? Are there spacers attached to the glass? In any case, it should be pretty simple. you can just pull out the framing points, open it up, swap it, and stick in new framing points. You can buy a point driver on amazon for $50 rather than pay a framer to do it, and buy the new glass from an online source like arttoframe.
Has anyone been through the process of changing the glass on their frame? I'm about to buy a framed piece that isn't UV and was wondering if it's a pain to get it swapped out. How is it framed currently, matted or floated with spacers? Are there spacers attached to the glass? In any case, it should be pretty simple. you can just pull out the framing points, open it up, swap it, and stick in new framing points. You can buy a point driver on amazon for $50 rather than pay a framer to do it, and buy the new glass from an online source like arttoframe.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by WILLYBKLN on Dec 11, 2018 4:29:35 GMT 1, Has anyone been through the process of changing the glass on their frame? I'm about to buy a framed piece that isn't UV and was wondering if it's a pain to get it swapped out. How is it framed currently, matted or floated with spacers? Are there spacers attached to the glass? In any case, it should be pretty simple. you can just pull out the framing points, open it up, swap it, and stick in new framing points. You can buy a point driver on amazon for $50 rather than pay a framer to do it, and buy the new glass from an online source like arttoframe. Probably will also need an anti-static brush and if the spacers are glued in, removal and replacement?
Has anyone been through the process of changing the glass on their frame? I'm about to buy a framed piece that isn't UV and was wondering if it's a pain to get it swapped out. How is it framed currently, matted or floated with spacers? Are there spacers attached to the glass? In any case, it should be pretty simple. you can just pull out the framing points, open it up, swap it, and stick in new framing points. You can buy a point driver on amazon for $50 rather than pay a framer to do it, and buy the new glass from an online source like arttoframe. Probably will also need an anti-static brush and if the spacers are glued in, removal and replacement?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by The True Cubs Fan on Dec 11, 2018 17:32:07 GMT 1, Has anyone used Art to frame before? I have an old concert poster I made that I got signed by the band, and have been meaning to trade out the glass for the UV. The site almost seems too good to be true. Any thoughts or tips would be great! Thanks
Has anyone used Art to frame before? I have an old concert poster I made that I got signed by the band, and have been meaning to trade out the glass for the UV. The site almost seems too good to be true. Any thoughts or tips would be great! Thanks
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by purpleandred on Jan 4, 2019 17:33:16 GMT 1, Is there an equivalent of the above site for UK punters? I'm looking at swapping out glass for UV acrylic on some pre ordered frames etc. I'm wondering if there is a go-to website in the UK for this?
Is there an equivalent of the above site for UK punters? I'm looking at swapping out glass for UV acrylic on some pre ordered frames etc. I'm wondering if there is a go-to website in the UK for this?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by avec art on Jan 4, 2019 18:37:08 GMT 1, I've got some limited experience with using Frame Frog, which were recommended to me from someone here. They're helpful enough, and the prices are reasonable but the quality is not amazing. I think it depends what you're after. I've used acrylic supplied by them, but it seems to distort the image slightly in a way glass doesn't. I'm not sure if all acrylic is like this, I expect the top of the range stuff isn't.
I've got some limited experience with using Frame Frog, which were recommended to me from someone here. They're helpful enough, and the prices are reasonable but the quality is not amazing. I think it depends what you're after. I've used acrylic supplied by them, but it seems to distort the image slightly in a way glass doesn't. I'm not sure if all acrylic is like this, I expect the top of the range stuff isn't.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by seamo on Jan 28, 2020 19:36:40 GMT 1, Hi all
Collected a few pieces Looking at getting my first framed up
When do you require museum glass? Got prices with and without but not entirely sure when to upgrade the glass
Might be an obvious question but any help greatly appreciated
Hi all
Collected a few pieces Looking at getting my first framed up
When do you require museum glass? Got prices with and without but not entirely sure when to upgrade the glass
Might be an obvious question but any help greatly appreciated
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Adam The Collector on Jan 28, 2020 19:55:52 GMT 1, For me, I choose museum glass for works that I would be devastated if they were to get UV damage regardless of their value. Now generally speaking if works are valued upwards of 1000USD I will pay for the museum glass every time. Piece of mind for my hanging works far surpasses the upfront expense.
As an added note, you can always use that same piece of glass for any other works if you decide to sell the current. You never lose your value when buying this.
For me, I choose museum glass for works that I would be devastated if they were to get UV damage regardless of their value. Now generally speaking if works are valued upwards of 1000USD I will pay for the museum glass every time. Piece of mind for my hanging works far surpasses the upfront expense.
As an added note, you can always use that same piece of glass for any other works if you decide to sell the current. You never lose your value when buying this.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by iamzero on Jan 28, 2020 20:09:43 GMT 1, Museum glass offers the same 99% protection as Tru Vue Conservation Clear. I think the difference is the anti reflective coating and the way it breaks should it smash.
Museum glass offers the same 99% protection as Tru Vue Conservation Clear. I think the difference is the anti reflective coating and the way it breaks should it smash.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by NYart on Jan 28, 2020 20:28:45 GMT 1, In my opinion, everything worth framing is worth framing with UV protective glass.
Museum glass is a bit of a different story, drawings and prints with more intricate details would benefit more greatly from it. I’d also be more inclined to pony up for it on more expensive prints, Banksy, Kaws etc. Would have a hard time justifying the cost difference between anti uv and museum glass for a $45 Obey print.
In my opinion, everything worth framing is worth framing with UV protective glass.
Museum glass is a bit of a different story, drawings and prints with more intricate details would benefit more greatly from it. I’d also be more inclined to pony up for it on more expensive prints, Banksy, Kaws etc. Would have a hard time justifying the cost difference between anti uv and museum glass for a $45 Obey print.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by seamo on Jan 28, 2020 21:09:22 GMT 1, Thanks for all your help and advice
I haven’t got anything worth a fortune
A blek piece, couple of zedsy prints and a mighty mo on the way
Going to frame the blek first
Thanks for all your help and advice
I haven’t got anything worth a fortune
A blek piece, couple of zedsy prints and a mighty mo on the way
Going to frame the blek first
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by unkle77 on Jan 28, 2020 22:09:19 GMT 1, If it’s worth framing, it’s worth framing nicely. If cost is a concern (and when isn’t it), just frame things less frequently. There’s no rush. If you’re just starting to collect and frame work, it’s quite likely that much of what you frame now you will regret later anyway. So slow down, do it properly - it really is worth it.
agree with this 100%. i only use museum acrylic and only frame things i intend on keeping for a long long time. framing is expensive and does not keep its value at all in the secondary market (thinking down the road if wanting to sell) as most times people are very particular about how they want their piece framed. often times framing is almost if not more expensive than the work itself (thinking my Beejoir 70 spot as a good example) so losing that cost is huge for me.
If it’s worth framing, it’s worth framing nicely. If cost is a concern (and when isn’t it), just frame things less frequently. There’s no rush. If you’re just starting to collect and frame work, it’s quite likely that much of what you frame now you will regret later anyway. So slow down, do it properly - it really is worth it.
agree with this 100%. i only use museum acrylic and only frame things i intend on keeping for a long long time. framing is expensive and does not keep its value at all in the secondary market (thinking down the road if wanting to sell) as most times people are very particular about how they want their piece framed. often times framing is almost if not more expensive than the work itself (thinking my Beejoir 70 spot as a good example) so losing that cost is huge for me.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Charlesworth on Jan 28, 2020 22:41:44 GMT 1, What mighty mo did you get?
Thanks for all your help and advice I haven’t got anything worth a fortune A blek piece, couple of zedsy prints and a mighty mo on the way Going to frame the blek first
What mighty mo did you get? Thanks for all your help and advice I haven’t got anything worth a fortune A blek piece, couple of zedsy prints and a mighty mo on the way Going to frame the blek first
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by seamo on Jan 28, 2020 22:51:33 GMT 1, What mighty mo did you get? Thanks for all your help and advice I haven’t got anything worth a fortune A blek piece, couple of zedsy prints and a mighty mo on the way Going to frame the blek first
Black and white Lino Would have got a couple but need to save some £££
What mighty mo did you get? Thanks for all your help and advice I haven’t got anything worth a fortune A blek piece, couple of zedsy prints and a mighty mo on the way Going to frame the blek first Black and white Lino Would have got a couple but need to save some £££
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by John The Badgers on Jan 29, 2020 14:12:35 GMT 1, I'm not sure of the price differential Seamo, but the last few bits I have had framed by MFM I have used the museum glass. I personally like the ant-reflective properties so you can view the print better? The art also stands out better in the room as you see the print rather than reflections from the glass?
As mentioned, I dont think the cost is that much more, especially on smaller pieces, is it worth asking your framer what the cost implications are?
I'm not sure of the price differential Seamo, but the last few bits I have had framed by MFM I have used the museum glass. I personally like the ant-reflective properties so you can view the print better? The art also stands out better in the room as you see the print rather than reflections from the glass?
As mentioned, I dont think the cost is that much more, especially on smaller pieces, is it worth asking your framer what the cost implications are?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by seamo on Jan 29, 2020 15:29:03 GMT 1, I'm not sure of the price differential Seamo, but the last few bits I have had framed by MFM I have used the museum glass. I personally like the ant-reflective properties so you can view the print better? The art also stands out better in the room as you see the print rather than reflections from the glass? As mentioned, I dont think the cost is that much more, especially on smaller pieces, is it worth asking your framer what the cost implications are?
I have costing
31x23cm: £27.50 with normal glass £47.50 with museum glass.
50x36cm: £42.50 with normal glass ££82.50 with museum glass.
50x50cm: £50 with normal glass. £100 with museum glass.
These quotes are based on the starting price for each size and is based on the picture being fitted straight into the frame edge.
I'm not sure of the price differential Seamo, but the last few bits I have had framed by MFM I have used the museum glass. I personally like the ant-reflective properties so you can view the print better? The art also stands out better in the room as you see the print rather than reflections from the glass? As mentioned, I dont think the cost is that much more, especially on smaller pieces, is it worth asking your framer what the cost implications are? I have costing 31x23cm: £27.50 with normal glass £47.50 with museum glass. 50x36cm: £42.50 with normal glass ££82.50 with museum glass. 50x50cm: £50 with normal glass. £100 with museum glass. These quotes are based on the starting price for each size and is based on the picture being fitted straight into the frame edge.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by dannubs on Jan 29, 2020 15:36:16 GMT 1, I can't really talk to when the best time to use museum glass is, I'm in a similar position to you where I've just started collecting a few prints and am getting to framing them.
What I will say is most of my frames so far have been cheapo IKEA/Tiger frames, whatever fits the print, I do a lot of my own mounting, not too worried about it because I don't have anything actually valuable yet anyway. I picked up my first museum glass frame second hand from another forum member, UV protection and antireflective glass and ho. ly.s**t. does that stuff make the print pop. The colours are so much more vibrant and the lack of reflection is really noticeable.
I'm considering upgrading a couple of my current ones just for the appearance factor now.
I can't really talk to when the best time to use museum glass is, I'm in a similar position to you where I've just started collecting a few prints and am getting to framing them.
What I will say is most of my frames so far have been cheapo IKEA/Tiger frames, whatever fits the print, I do a lot of my own mounting, not too worried about it because I don't have anything actually valuable yet anyway. I picked up my first museum glass frame second hand from another forum member, UV protection and antireflective glass and ho. ly.s**t. does that stuff make the print pop. The colours are so much more vibrant and the lack of reflection is really noticeable.
I'm considering upgrading a couple of my current ones just for the appearance factor now.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by seamo on Jan 29, 2020 18:09:47 GMT 1, Did see the ikea ribba 50x50
Might grab that for the zedsy A/P poison apple from the set of 3 I have
Did see the ikea ribba 50x50
Might grab that for the zedsy A/P poison apple from the set of 3 I have
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by dannubs on Jan 29, 2020 18:59:44 GMT 1, Did see the ikea ribba 50x50 Might grab that for the zedsy A/P poison apple from the set of 3 I have I got this one in oak arriving tomorrow, can post pictures if it'll help
Did see the ikea ribba 50x50 Might grab that for the zedsy A/P poison apple from the set of 3 I have I got this one in oak arriving tomorrow, can post pictures if it'll help
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by John The Badgers on Jan 29, 2020 20:42:48 GMT 1, I'm with Dannubs Seamo, really does make the print stand out.
Appreciate the prices, to be honest, I haven't broken down the prices like this, when recently getting something framed, because I've been so happy with the results, always tended to specify this.
I would add, I'm not the wealthiest, and not framing signed Banksy's.
Not sure of your location, but can certainly recommend MFM in the UK, they are very open as to the costs, and might be worth getting some comparable's on the prices you have obtained? I am quite a distance from them, but the shipping never an issue.
All the best with getting those framed up, some nice prints right there.
I'm with Dannubs Seamo, really does make the print stand out.
Appreciate the prices, to be honest, I haven't broken down the prices like this, when recently getting something framed, because I've been so happy with the results, always tended to specify this.
I would add, I'm not the wealthiest, and not framing signed Banksy's.
Not sure of your location, but can certainly recommend MFM in the UK, they are very open as to the costs, and might be worth getting some comparable's on the prices you have obtained? I am quite a distance from them, but the shipping never an issue.
All the best with getting those framed up, some nice prints right there.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by seamo on Jan 30, 2020 11:21:45 GMT 1, Thanks for everyone’s help
If I was to grab an ikea frame
Any do’s or don'ts or can I just whack my print in it
Thanks for everyone’s help
If I was to grab an ikea frame
Any do’s or don'ts or can I just whack my print in it
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by benjamayn on Jan 30, 2020 19:17:25 GMT 1, The most important thing is not placing any valuable artwork in direct sunlight. No UV filter will stop fade-/yellowing, if the sun reaches the artwork everyday. I only have posters and less valuable art in such places.
For me it's very important, that the art stands out better and both the image and colours pop.
I don't use Museums glass, since the price is very high, but I'm a big fan of True Vue/Art glass. Antireflective is a must for me, you can see the art from almost every angel without any reflections. You get either UV70 or UV92 protection and thats fine with me.
The most important thing is not placing any valuable artwork in direct sunlight. No UV filter will stop fade-/yellowing, if the sun reaches the artwork everyday. I only have posters and less valuable art in such places.
For me it's very important, that the art stands out better and both the image and colours pop.
I don't use Museums glass, since the price is very high, but I'm a big fan of True Vue/Art glass. Antireflective is a must for me, you can see the art from almost every angel without any reflections. You get either UV70 or UV92 protection and thats fine with me.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by broke on Jan 30, 2020 20:02:12 GMT 1, Thanks for everyone’s help If I was to grab an ikea frame Any do’s or don'ts or can I just whack my print in it
Make sure its not touching the glass. Using photo corners is also not a bad idea
Thanks for everyone’s help If I was to grab an ikea frame Any do’s or don'ts or can I just whack my print in it Make sure its not touching the glass. Using photo corners is also not a bad idea
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by frame1 on Feb 2, 2020 23:44:42 GMT 1, derivitive, thanks for the link to my company www.framedestination.com
There are a couple of different things being discusses here. One is UV protection and the other reflection control.
Any glass or acrylic will provide around 50% UV protection and is much better than nothing. Museum glass, and most glass with just a UV filter provide 98-99%. Artglass can be purchased with 92% or 99%. However, even with 99% UV filter if you leave the print in direct sunlight it can be damaged in short amount of time. Just moving a picture frame to a different part of a room can reduce the light intensity by over 10X so placement is critical.
Non glare glass and acrylic use an etched surface to reduce reflections. The advantage is lower cost. The disadvantage is very slight loss of sharpness (assuming it is high quality) and it will not work with a shadow box.
Anti-reflective glass uses a coating similar to that used on your glasses. No loss of sharpness and much better reduction of glare. Artglass and Museum glass both use this technology. Artglass has advantage of excellent scratch resistance and reduced orange peal effect unlike Museum glass. Both Artglass and Museum glass are also water white meaning they do not have the green tint normal glass does. Artglass can be purchased without the 92% UV filter at much lower cost for those wanting the better visibility but not concerned about archivability.
derivitive, thanks for the link to my company www.framedestination.comThere are a couple of different things being discusses here. One is UV protection and the other reflection control. Any glass or acrylic will provide around 50% UV protection and is much better than nothing. Museum glass, and most glass with just a UV filter provide 98-99%. Artglass can be purchased with 92% or 99%. However, even with 99% UV filter if you leave the print in direct sunlight it can be damaged in short amount of time. Just moving a picture frame to a different part of a room can reduce the light intensity by over 10X so placement is critical. Non glare glass and acrylic use an etched surface to reduce reflections. The advantage is lower cost. The disadvantage is very slight loss of sharpness (assuming it is high quality) and it will not work with a shadow box. Anti-reflective glass uses a coating similar to that used on your glasses. No loss of sharpness and much better reduction of glare. Artglass and Museum glass both use this technology. Artglass has advantage of excellent scratch resistance and reduced orange peal effect unlike Museum glass. Both Artglass and Museum glass are also water white meaning they do not have the green tint normal glass does. Artglass can be purchased without the 92% UV filter at much lower cost for those wanting the better visibility but not concerned about archivability.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by John The Badgers on Feb 3, 2020 12:33:16 GMT 1, Thank you for the information Frame1.
Could I ask if there are acryllics which give very good anti reflective properties? Still with the high UV protection.
Thank you for the information Frame1.
Could I ask if there are acryllics which give very good anti reflective properties? Still with the high UV protection.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Jaylove on Feb 3, 2020 13:51:53 GMT 1, I have about 15-20 prints in storage. I can't afford the UV glass for them. So regular glass it is. Just need to keep them away from direct sunlight.
I have about 15-20 prints in storage. I can't afford the UV glass for them. So regular glass it is. Just need to keep them away from direct sunlight.
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