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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by confused2 on Apr 17, 2012 10:28:35 GMT 1, There was a Barcode on eBay a while back that had exactly the same problem.
There was a Barcode on eBay a while back that had exactly the same problem.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Andy'77 on Apr 17, 2012 11:08:52 GMT 1, It seems specific to this particular paper then. I've had other prints window mounted previously for about the same time length without UV glass with no problem at all. Barcode is the same paper as CND isn't it?
It seems specific to this particular paper then. I've had other prints window mounted previously for about the same time length without UV glass with no problem at all. Barcode is the same paper as CND isn't it?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by curiousgeorge on Apr 17, 2012 12:19:08 GMT 1, I noticed a HAND on ebay with the exact same issue
Are you 100% confident in the materials used? I open my frames once or twice a year and have not noticed this (always use TruVue Conservation Clear and Artcare Restore mounts)
I noticed a HAND on ebay with the exact same issue
Are you 100% confident in the materials used? I open my frames once or twice a year and have not noticed this (always use TruVue Conservation Clear and Artcare Restore mounts)
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Andy'77 on Apr 17, 2012 12:57:41 GMT 1, Yeah, I'm pretty confident. I checked the glass this morning. I believe that UV glass is orange when you look at the side edge where as normal glass is green (truvue is purple) so it appeared to be UV resistant although not TruVue. Having said that I've a Dolk Che that has been in a frame longer that the Banksy's which is the same type of paper that hasn't suffered the same fate. May have to have a word with my framer to be sure.
Yeah, I'm pretty confident. I checked the glass this morning. I believe that UV glass is orange when you look at the side edge where as normal glass is green (truvue is purple) so it appeared to be UV resistant although not TruVue. Having said that I've a Dolk Che that has been in a frame longer that the Banksy's which is the same type of paper that hasn't suffered the same fate. May have to have a word with my framer to be sure.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Trevorm on Apr 17, 2012 16:48:49 GMT 1, Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint.
I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest.
On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all.
Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might.
Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint.
I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest.
On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all.
Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by hunter007 on Apr 17, 2012 16:54:19 GMT 1, Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint. I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest. On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all. Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might.
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Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint. I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest. On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all. Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might. BARGAIN |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Trevorm on Apr 17, 2012 17:00:00 GMT 1, Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint. I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest. On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all. Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might. Well spotted 'Aitch' ;D BARGAIN
Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint. I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest. On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all. Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might. Well spotted 'Aitch' ;D BARGAIN |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by iamzero on Apr 17, 2012 17:21:03 GMT 1, I think that the thing to remember is that the light is not the only thing that will fade a print, from what I've been told the general atmosphere will degrade artwork no matter how much money you throw at the framing.
I think that the thing to remember is that the light is not the only thing that will fade a print, from what I've been told the general atmosphere will degrade artwork no matter how much money you throw at the framing.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by My Name is Frank on Apr 17, 2012 21:52:51 GMT 1, any smoking going on at all?
any smoking going on at all?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Andy'77 on Apr 17, 2012 22:33:59 GMT 1, Smoke free house and not placed above a radiator so shouldn't be excessive temperature or humidity changes. I assume as it's just where the mount wasn't covering the print it can only be a UV issue. I guess UV glass only stops 97% or something like that... Looked at the prints again and the border is barely even noticeable but glad I'm not leaving them in the mounts for another 4 years.
Smoke free house and not placed above a radiator so shouldn't be excessive temperature or humidity changes. I assume as it's just where the mount wasn't covering the print it can only be a UV issue. I guess UV glass only stops 97% or something like that... Looked at the prints again and the border is barely even noticeable but glad I'm not leaving them in the mounts for another 4 years.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by voodoo1967 on Jul 3, 2012 11:10:15 GMT 1, My mate runs a company that makes frames and Picture mounts . I asked him - if there was any big difference - he reckons that although it is a better quality the price differential may not always be worth what the customer wants to pay. Suppose it depends on the customer.
When I have got frames off him - he has used acid free conservation mountboard and non reflective glass. He also uses a glass cleaner from Lion Pic (about 7 quid a go) and that gets the glass so clean you dont even know it's there.
My mate runs a company that makes frames and Picture mounts . I asked him - if there was any big difference - he reckons that although it is a better quality the price differential may not always be worth what the customer wants to pay. Suppose it depends on the customer. When I have got frames off him - he has used acid free conservation mountboard and non reflective glass. He also uses a glass cleaner from Lion Pic (about 7 quid a go) and that gets the glass so clean you dont even know it's there. |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by love on Jul 3, 2012 11:13:05 GMT 1, Museum-quality glass protects art from damage such as fading or brittleness caused by ultra-violet (UV) rays. It also reduces glare when a work is viewed from different angles, minimizing the mirror-like effect of typical glass and improving the intensity of colors and details.
/signed. Worth every cent, let the framer show you the difference, you'll be surprised!
Museum-quality glass protects art from damage such as fading or brittleness caused by ultra-violet (UV) rays. It also reduces glare when a work is viewed from different angles, minimizing the mirror-like effect of typical glass and improving the intensity of colors and details. /signed. Worth every cent, let the framer show you the difference, you'll be surprised! |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by jaimesl on Jul 3, 2012 11:34:09 GMT 1,
Have to agree - it makes the world of difference.
Good glass looks almost invisible in good light - and significantly reduces reflection in bad.
Honestly - think it's worth every penny.
Have to agree - it makes the world of difference.
Good glass looks almost invisible in good light - and significantly reduces reflection in bad.
Honestly - think it's worth every penny.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by sanchorockin78 on Jul 3, 2012 11:41:50 GMT 1, Have to agree - it makes the world of difference. Good glass looks almost invisible in good light - and significantly reduces reflection in bad. Honestly - think it's worth every penny.
Would agree with this. I have a few prints with standard UV and more in Museum ( truvue ), there is a massive difference imo. The anti reflective and almost invisible finish is well worth it, especially for your more prized pieces or those taking direct light.
Have to agree - it makes the world of difference. Good glass looks almost invisible in good light - and significantly reduces reflection in bad. Honestly - think it's worth every penny. Would agree with this. I have a few prints with standard UV and more in Museum ( truvue ), there is a massive difference imo. The anti reflective and almost invisible finish is well worth it, especially for your more prized pieces or those taking direct light. |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by johnnyh on Jul 3, 2012 11:56:55 GMT 1, Go to a decent framers and he will show you all. Think base rule is do not spend more on the glass and frame than you did on the print. I do not use the base glass I use a better one always not sure what it is and then he has a better one and then museum. Signed banksys and the like get museum but the rest get either of the two options above plain glass.
I do however other than a really expensive piece avoid museum as much as possible as on my large pieces it has cost a fortune.
It is much better but .........and it is a big but.
Unless a piece is getting a lot of sunlight the UV protection makes no difference in comparrison to the other options as their protection is really good.
The reflection benefit on big pieces is great and really helps when you view the larger pieces but as mention it is an expensive piece of kit.
Spend it on beer as when you get home lovely to view your collection through a pissed haze. Never once noticed any reflections regardless !!!!
Go to a decent framers and he will show you all. Think base rule is do not spend more on the glass and frame than you did on the print. I do not use the base glass I use a better one always not sure what it is and then he has a better one and then museum. Signed banksys and the like get museum but the rest get either of the two options above plain glass.
I do however other than a really expensive piece avoid museum as much as possible as on my large pieces it has cost a fortune.
It is much better but .........and it is a big but.
Unless a piece is getting a lot of sunlight the UV protection makes no difference in comparrison to the other options as their protection is really good.
The reflection benefit on big pieces is great and really helps when you view the larger pieces but as mention it is an expensive piece of kit.
Spend it on beer as when you get home lovely to view your collection through a pissed haze. Never once noticed any reflections regardless !!!!
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by sanchorockin78 on Jul 3, 2012 11:59:53 GMT 1, "Spend it on beer as when you get home lovely to view your collection through a pissed haze. Never once noticed any reflections regardless !!!!"
"Spend it on beer as when you get home lovely to view your collection through a pissed haze. Never once noticed any reflections regardless !!!!" |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by apprint on Jul 14, 2012 18:21:01 GMT 1, All the Print framed by art republic have the same problem, few years back they never used acid free to framed the print!
I had the same problem with lots of my prints
All the Print framed by art republic have the same problem, few years back they never used acid free to framed the print!
I had the same problem with lots of my prints
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by therivler1 on Jul 15, 2012 1:50:20 GMT 1, i purchased a rat with the same issue. covered by a mat now, so whatever.
i purchased a rat with the same issue. covered by a mat now, so whatever.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by voodoo1967 on Aug 31, 2012 20:37:09 GMT 1, Just use non reflective glass instead. I also use LionPic to clean it (about 8 quid a can) that is well worth buying.
Just use non reflective glass instead. I also use LionPic to clean it (about 8 quid a can) that is well worth buying.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by manty on Aug 31, 2012 22:42:40 GMT 1, Not sure what you mean by Museum quality? I think you mean UV glass. Everything fades over time, ink, oil, watercolour etc. only graphite doesn't fade. Obviously it depends on the value of the piece but it's worth paying that bit extra. UV glass limits 99% of the harmful rays. It is not just the sun the fades pictures it is all light.
isn't museum glass spec = non reflective (looks like there is no glass until your nose hits it) and also has UV?
Looks cool, never had anything done in it, as its massive cost
Not sure what you mean by Museum quality? I think you mean UV glass. Everything fades over time, ink, oil, watercolour etc. only graphite doesn't fade. Obviously it depends on the value of the piece but it's worth paying that bit extra. UV glass limits 99% of the harmful rays. It is not just the sun the fades pictures it is all light. isn't museum glass spec = non reflective (looks like there is no glass until your nose hits it) and also has UV? Looks cool, never had anything done in it, as its massive cost |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by iamzero on Aug 31, 2012 23:04:26 GMT 1, Museum quality also has way of shattering if broken that avoids damage to the artwork.
Museum quality also has way of shattering if broken that avoids damage to the artwork.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Sept 1, 2012 5:35:26 GMT 1, UV glas only protects from fading, but I adivise to use this on the prints which are keepers and for large prints as its a lot safer when moving etc... I went to the Picasso Exhibition as the Australian Museum, I wore my driving glasses so had amazing vision that day and I swear you had to get really close to notice the glass (as carneiro mentioned above)... It was amazing, no reflection etc.. So I would think that is Museum glass and is probably well expensive.
UV glas only protects from fading, but I adivise to use this on the prints which are keepers and for large prints as its a lot safer when moving etc... I went to the Picasso Exhibition as the Australian Museum, I wore my driving glasses so had amazing vision that day and I swear you had to get really close to notice the glass (as carneiro mentioned above)... It was amazing, no reflection etc.. So I would think that is Museum glass and is probably well expensive.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by misterx on Sept 1, 2012 5:55:34 GMT 1, Zero reflection can be confirmed here...it looks like you have NO glass in the frame at all(although statistically its 1% reflection).
Also blocks 99% of UV...here, have a look...
www.tru-vue.com/Framers/products/museum-glass-anti-reflective
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by iamzero on Sept 1, 2012 8:37:47 GMT 1, The price is extortionate. I remember my framer calling his supplier for a sheet of Truvue Conservation Clear to get a price of about £40 and then asking for the same sheet in Museum Grade and that was just under £200.
Good glass... Yes. Worth the difference??? Not on my wages.
The price is extortionate. I remember my framer calling his supplier for a sheet of Truvue Conservation Clear to get a price of about £40 and then asking for the same sheet in Museum Grade and that was just under £200.
Good glass... Yes. Worth the difference??? Not on my wages.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by kennyre317 on Oct 20, 2012 1:37:33 GMT 1, Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint. I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest. On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all. Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might.
Only slightly off topic - I picked up a Matt Small 'Ahmed' on ebay about 4 weeks ago for £21.20. It was described as damaged "it was stored flat and wrapped in tissue but the tape holding it flat has somehow stained the print... it is (sic) four wide brown lines across each of the four corners of the print" Otherwise, I reckon the print would be deemed mint. I've taken the print out of the tube and allowed it to rest. On a whim, as £21.20 isn't a huge amount to lose, I've left the print on my plan chest in pretty much direct sunlight, such as you get in SE London! I noticed after a couple of weeks that the bands of discolouration were 'fading' and with subsequent shuffling around are virtually non existent - perhaps with time they won't be apparent at all. Go on....... try it with yer Banksy. I would/might. I had a similar experience with an aiko print that a seller listed as being slightly stained along the edges . Also left it out by the Window and the discoloration evened out where you wouldn't tell |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by voodoo1967 on Nov 6, 2012 14:55:08 GMT 1, Do you know for sure that they were conservation standard mounts ?
If bought off ebay - then the seller can say whatever they want, whereas if you buy from a shop (or their onlione shop) then at least you know they are selling lots of mounts - and so are far likely to be truthful.
Conservation picture mounts will last for 300+ years are acid free etc.
These guys do them www.cadremont.co.uk/shop/picture-mounts/
Do you know for sure that they were conservation standard mounts ? If bought off ebay - then the seller can say whatever they want, whereas if you buy from a shop (or their onlione shop) then at least you know they are selling lots of mounts - and so are far likely to be truthful. Conservation picture mounts will last for 300+ years are acid free etc. These guys do them www.cadremont.co.uk/shop/picture-mounts/ |
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by keaney on Dec 2, 2012 15:06:24 GMT 1, Hi sorry if this has been covered before, but what's the best uv protection for artwork?
I've found tru-view and acrylite, but need a custom size bigger than 111cm x 122.5cm.
Is acrylic better than glass?
Can anyone recommend a good supplier?
Hi sorry if this has been covered before, but what's the best uv protection for artwork?
I've found tru-view and acrylite, but need a custom size bigger than 111cm x 122.5cm.
Is acrylic better than glass?
Can anyone recommend a good supplier?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by iamzero on Dec 2, 2012 15:17:33 GMT 1, I use truvue conservation clear which states 99% uv protection. I buy mine through Wessex.
I use truvue conservation clear which states 99% uv protection. I buy mine through Wessex.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by keaney on Dec 2, 2012 15:30:04 GMT 1, Thanks I've emailed them for a quote.
Thanks I've emailed them for a quote.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by keaney on Dec 4, 2012 11:51:51 GMT 1, For the size I want I've been recommended:
either the mirogard plus (84% uv) or the Artglass UV (92% uv)
What's anyone's thoughts of these owe truvue?
For the size I want I've been recommended:
either the mirogard plus (84% uv) or the Artglass UV (92% uv)
What's anyone's thoughts of these owe truvue?
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