iamzero
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Oct 29, 2014 11:09:18 GMT 1, There are different types of anti reflective dude. The diffused stuff etches the inside of the glass and needs to be placed really close to the artwork or it fuzzes the image.
There are different types of anti reflective dude. The diffused stuff etches the inside of the glass and needs to be placed really close to the artwork or it fuzzes the image.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by sgolby on Nov 3, 2014 0:03:38 GMT 1, There are different types of anti reflective dude. The diffused stuff etches the inside of the glass and needs to be placed really close to the artwork or it fuzzes the image. Yeah it was this type... He did tell me, but i was being hardheaded and thought that standing far away would equalize the diffusion... Problem is i didn't take into account that i would want to look at it up close... Stpid me... My framer is a mensch though and didn't charge me to switch out for standard uv protection glass... Pics to come soon...
There are different types of anti reflective dude. The diffused stuff etches the inside of the glass and needs to be placed really close to the artwork or it fuzzes the image. Yeah it was this type... He did tell me, but i was being hardheaded and thought that standing far away would equalize the diffusion... Problem is i didn't take into account that i would want to look at it up close... Stpid me... My framer is a mensch though and didn't charge me to switch out for standard uv protection glass... Pics to come soon...
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lovebanksy
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by lovebanksy on Dec 7, 2014 15:48:24 GMT 1, What are your views on having Laminated Museum glass instead of just museum glass?
The framing I am looking at will cost 40% more if I was to use Laminated Museum glass. The idea being if the glass was to ever break the art work wont get beat up as the glass wont shatter due to being laminated.
Has anyone else used laminated instead of standard museum?
Thanks.
What are your views on having Laminated Museum glass instead of just museum glass?
The framing I am looking at will cost 40% more if I was to use Laminated Museum glass. The idea being if the glass was to ever break the art work wont get beat up as the glass wont shatter due to being laminated.
Has anyone else used laminated instead of standard museum?
Thanks.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by .dappy on Dec 7, 2014 16:31:54 GMT 1, ... the purpose of museum glass other than the UV is to make it virtually invisable, ie v little reflection ... if it is laminated then by its nature will have a plastic sheet in it ... not sure how it will work then
... if its a large piece have you thought about perpex which from memory is 96-98% UV resistant.
... either that or fix your screws/hooks firmly into the wall ... if it is a large/heavy piece I drill - plug 6/8mm - then screw (even x2) ... no need then for picture hooks
... the purpose of museum glass other than the UV is to make it virtually invisable, ie v little reflection ... if it is laminated then by its nature will have a plastic sheet in it ... not sure how it will work then ... if its a large piece have you thought about perpex which from memory is 96-98% UV resistant. ... either that or fix your screws/hooks firmly into the wall ... if it is a large/heavy piece I drill - plug 6/8mm - then screw (even x2) ... no need then for picture hooks
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Dec 7, 2014 21:31:52 GMT 1, Non of my art pieces are hanging on picture hooks. I always drill the wall, brown rawl plug with screws using washers to stop the cord slipping over the screw head.
Non of my art pieces are hanging on picture hooks. I always drill the wall, brown rawl plug with screws using washers to stop the cord slipping over the screw head.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on Dec 7, 2014 21:43:58 GMT 1, Non of my art are hanging on picture hooks. I always drill the wall, brown rawl plug with screws using washers to stop the cord slipping over the screw head.
Cheers, brilliant idea! I always use large headed screws, but always worried they could slip with a couple of crazy kids running around. Definately going to attach washers now.
Non of my art are hanging on picture hooks. I always drill the wall, brown rawl plug with screws using washers to stop the cord slipping over the screw head. Cheers, brilliant idea! I always use large headed screws, but always worried they could slip with a couple of crazy kids running around. Definately going to attach washers now.
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lovebanksy
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by lovebanksy on Dec 7, 2014 22:54:41 GMT 1, ... the purpose of museum glass other than the UV is to make it virtually invisable, ie v little reflection ... if it is laminated then by its nature will have a plastic sheet in it ... not sure how it will work then ... if its a large piece have you thought about perpex which from memory is 96-98% UV resistant. ... either that or fix your screws/hooks firmly into the wall ... if it is a large/heavy piece I drill - plug 6/8mm - then screw (even x2) ... no need then for picture hooks I was told that having it laminated would not cause any additional reflection. None that can be seen with the human eye anyway.
I have thought about perspex but feel as though it doesn't do the frame justice not having glass in it?
... the purpose of museum glass other than the UV is to make it virtually invisable, ie v little reflection ... if it is laminated then by its nature will have a plastic sheet in it ... not sure how it will work then ... if its a large piece have you thought about perpex which from memory is 96-98% UV resistant. ... either that or fix your screws/hooks firmly into the wall ... if it is a large/heavy piece I drill - plug 6/8mm - then screw (even x2) ... no need then for picture hooks I was told that having it laminated would not cause any additional reflection. None that can be seen with the human eye anyway. I have thought about perspex but feel as though it doesn't do the frame justice not having glass in it?
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by .dappy on Dec 7, 2014 23:49:09 GMT 1, ... all of my pieces are museum glass drill/rawplug/hefty screw ... no falling off wall ...
do lots of research ... its what t'internet is for ... good luck whichever way you choose
... all of my pieces are museum glass drill/rawplug/hefty screw ... no falling off wall ...
do lots of research ... its what t'internet is for ... good luck whichever way you choose
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by tommyf on Dec 13, 2014 1:05:33 GMT 1, Hi,
I've been collecting prints for the last year and whenever I take a print to the framers I usually go for none reflective glass, I just wanted to know how much of a difference it actually makes compared to normal glass? It is always best to go for none reflective? Does it all depend on the amount of light in the room and the amount of detail on the print? I'm having a large print framed at the moment and due to costs I've gone with plain glass but am now worried its not going to look as good.
Hi,
I've been collecting prints for the last year and whenever I take a print to the framers I usually go for none reflective glass, I just wanted to know how much of a difference it actually makes compared to normal glass? It is always best to go for none reflective? Does it all depend on the amount of light in the room and the amount of detail on the print? I'm having a large print framed at the moment and due to costs I've gone with plain glass but am now worried its not going to look as good.
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Gard
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Gard on Dec 13, 2014 1:29:09 GMT 1, If you're 100% sure it's going to hang in your living room the next 10 years go for the non reflective, if not go for the cheapest one.
If you're 100% sure it's going to hang in your living room the next 10 years go for the non reflective, if not go for the cheapest one.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Cornish Crayon on Dec 13, 2014 2:35:14 GMT 1, It's worth the extra if you can afford it, world of difference......
No worries
It's worth the extra if you can afford it, world of difference......
No worries
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Aza on Dec 13, 2014 16:28:15 GMT 1, As you will discover, it makes a huge difference. I would always go for non-reflective glass.
As you will discover, it makes a huge difference. I would always go for non-reflective glass.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by dueuomo on Dec 13, 2014 16:39:59 GMT 1, As you will discover, it makes a huge difference. I would always go for non-reflective glass. I agree. I remember framing the eelus After rain with the regular glass...I changed it after two weeks.
As you will discover, it makes a huge difference. I would always go for non-reflective glass. I agree. I remember framing the eelus After rain with the regular glass...I changed it after two weeks.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 17:55:59 GMT 1, Defo non reflective all the time. End of!
Defo non reflective all the time. End of!
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Dave
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Dave on Mar 8, 2015 7:24:48 GMT 1, Can't find the thread now but is there a way to tell if you have UV protected glass. Got a piece already framed and want to make sure it's UV protected as it's going in a bright room.
Can't find the thread now but is there a way to tell if you have UV protected glass. Got a piece already framed and want to make sure it's UV protected as it's going in a bright room.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by framie on Apr 20, 2015 16:44:05 GMT 1, What you really want is AR Glass (anti-reflective), I use Tru Vue's UltraVue and its near invisible
What you really want is AR Glass (anti-reflective), I use Tru Vue's UltraVue and its near invisible
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Cardiff on Jul 24, 2015 16:42:19 GMT 1, I am converted...I recently framed a smaller/canvas piece as it was in an area where my kids could splash it with a juice box/yogurt tube or drunken guests could poke it when then stumbled up from our dining table and I wanted the protection. It's a valuable piece (to me) and I decided to give museum acrylic a try. The effect was so impressive that I have replaced UV acrylic with "museum" on another piece and sprung for it on the rather large Baker piece I just posted on the recent purchase thread...the cost of using museum acrylic on the Baker piece doubled the total framing bill (gulp), but it was absolutely worth it...it is incredible. Before anyone asks, I have 0 connection to the company (quite honestly, couldn't even tell you what brand it is...just trusted my framer). I am a complete believer and will never skimp again when framing "nice" pieces where clarity and presentation is important.
I am converted...I recently framed a smaller/canvas piece as it was in an area where my kids could splash it with a juice box/yogurt tube or drunken guests could poke it when then stumbled up from our dining table and I wanted the protection. It's a valuable piece (to me) and I decided to give museum acrylic a try. The effect was so impressive that I have replaced UV acrylic with "museum" on another piece and sprung for it on the rather large Baker piece I just posted on the recent purchase thread...the cost of using museum acrylic on the Baker piece doubled the total framing bill (gulp), but it was absolutely worth it...it is incredible. Before anyone asks, I have 0 connection to the company (quite honestly, couldn't even tell you what brand it is...just trusted my framer). I am a complete believer and will never skimp again when framing "nice" pieces where clarity and presentation is important.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by chads007 on Jul 25, 2015 13:35:49 GMT 1, I don't think there's a standard % protection associated with museum? Think it varies between companies but they'll all be in the 90s. ..which is above the 65-70% (?) Considered for conservation grade.
I don't think there's a standard % protection associated with museum? Think it varies between companies but they'll all be in the 90s. ..which is above the 65-70% (?) Considered for conservation grade.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Station 16 on Jul 27, 2015 20:27:00 GMT 1, I worked in the framing world for over 7 years and would recommend museum glass only when you are extremely concerned by UV light and conservation. The price is so extreme it often discourages clients from framing altogether. Be mindful of where you are hanging your works on paper and opt for conservation glass instead of museum quality. While we've framed our Warhol and Banksy with museum glass, most of my pieces are framed with regular glass.
I worked in the framing world for over 7 years and would recommend museum glass only when you are extremely concerned by UV light and conservation. The price is so extreme it often discourages clients from framing altogether. Be mindful of where you are hanging your works on paper and opt for conservation glass instead of museum quality. While we've framed our Warhol and Banksy with museum glass, most of my pieces are framed with regular glass.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by .dappy on Jul 27, 2015 21:28:34 GMT 1, ... I also consider the time/years I intend to hang the piece ... divide the cost by as little of 3 or 5 years and then think about the diminishing upfront capital cost.
Also consider that you may well move the piece around the house as your collection expands and you have a crystal clear front to one of your favourite pieces
... I also consider the time/years I intend to hang the piece ... divide the cost by as little of 3 or 5 years and then think about the diminishing upfront capital cost. Also consider that you may well move the piece around the house as your collection expands and you have a crystal clear front to one of your favourite pieces
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Cardiff
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Cardiff on Jul 29, 2015 0:27:14 GMT 1, ... I also consider the time/years I intend to hang the piece ... divide the cost by as little of 3 or 5 years and then think about the diminishing upfront capital cost. Also consider that you may well move the piece around the house as your collection expands and you have a crystal clear front to one of your favourite pieces I agree...based on my recent framing experiences, I would put museum glass/acrylic just behind proper lighting in the order of "most important things to maximize my enjoyment of a nice piece of art". Obviously, if there's no kids/light/drunks/cleaning ladies in the equation, no glass is better. If I need to protect a piece, I will always use it going forward...nothing else that I've seen is close.
... I also consider the time/years I intend to hang the piece ... divide the cost by as little of 3 or 5 years and then think about the diminishing upfront capital cost. Also consider that you may well move the piece around the house as your collection expands and you have a crystal clear front to one of your favourite pieces I agree...based on my recent framing experiences, I would put museum glass/acrylic just behind proper lighting in the order of "most important things to maximize my enjoyment of a nice piece of art". Obviously, if there's no kids/light/drunks/cleaning ladies in the equation, no glass is better. If I need to protect a piece, I will always use it going forward...nothing else that I've seen is close.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by coller on Jul 29, 2015 16:29:10 GMT 1, I've spoken to a few framers, and I'm under the impression that the only difference between Conservation Clear and UV is visibility, and that both have the same level of UV protection. So it's pretty much only for aesthetic purposes. Given that, I tend to side with Conservation Clear.
If you can't appreciate my wall piece with a little reflection, then it probably shouldn't be on the wall. You can always get closer. And they shouldn't be in a place with reflection on the glass anyway.
I've spoken to a few framers, and I'm under the impression that the only difference between Conservation Clear and UV is visibility, and that both have the same level of UV protection. So it's pretty much only for aesthetic purposes. Given that, I tend to side with Conservation Clear.
If you can't appreciate my wall piece with a little reflection, then it probably shouldn't be on the wall. You can always get closer. And they shouldn't be in a place with reflection on the glass anyway.
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by James on Jul 29, 2015 23:29:29 GMT 1, This is a quote I got recently for my WWWK (100 x 140)
Extra clear anti-reflective with 92% uv protection ยฃ300.00 Extra clear anti-reflective with 98% uv protection ยฃ350.00
"Regular" extra clear anti-reflection has a uv protection of 60%, this might be enough if you are not going to hang in a conservatory, the glass is ยฃ220.00.
These prices are just for the piece of glass so the extra uv protection is coming at quite a cost. (the prices include VAT)
This is a quote I got recently for my WWWK (100 x 140)
Extra clear anti-reflective with 92% uv protection ยฃ300.00 Extra clear anti-reflective with 98% uv protection ยฃ350.00
"Regular" extra clear anti-reflection has a uv protection of 60%, this might be enough if you are not going to hang in a conservatory, the glass is ยฃ220.00.
These prices are just for the piece of glass so the extra uv protection is coming at quite a cost. (the prices include VAT)
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by Black Apple Art on Jul 30, 2015 0:27:38 GMT 1, All I use on my "keeper" pieces is Optium Museum Acrylic from Tru Vue which is 99% UV protection and also non reflective. For the others I use their Conservation Clear which still filters 99%. One huge benefit of being in the US is our framing costs are close to 50% the same costs in the UK.
www.tru-vue.com/products/optium-museum-acrylic/
All I use on my "keeper" pieces is Optium Museum Acrylic from Tru Vue which is 99% UV protection and also non reflective. For the others I use their Conservation Clear which still filters 99%. One huge benefit of being in the US is our framing costs are close to 50% the same costs in the UK. www.tru-vue.com/products/optium-museum-acrylic/
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coller
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by coller on Jul 30, 2015 14:26:30 GMT 1, All I use on my "keeper" pieces is Optium Museum Acrylic from Tru Vue which is 99% UV protection and also non reflective. For the others I use their Conservation Clear which still filters 99%. One huge benefit of being in the US is our framing costs are close to 50% the same costs in the UK. www.tru-vue.com/products/optium-museum-acrylic/ I was wondering why so many use museum on this forum; do they not have affordable 99% Conservation Clear in the UK or something? (actually, seems like James answered that; crazy prices!) For me, museum seems way too high-priced for anything other than a masterpiece.
At Rooq NYC, the Conservation Clear with 99% protection is like ~$45, while the museum is ~$250. Only difference is lack of reflection if you happen to put your masterpiece near a light source, which seems like a terrible idea anyway.
I get why people buy museum if they're flowing in it (since why not), or it's their favorite piece; otherwise it seems like money wasted a bit. Especially if you're replacing the glass every 5 years or so; that adds up for museum. Then again, I tend to be more frugal than others.
All I use on my "keeper" pieces is Optium Museum Acrylic from Tru Vue which is 99% UV protection and also non reflective. For the others I use their Conservation Clear which still filters 99%. One huge benefit of being in the US is our framing costs are close to 50% the same costs in the UK. www.tru-vue.com/products/optium-museum-acrylic/ I was wondering why so many use museum on this forum; do they not have affordable 99% Conservation Clear in the UK or something? (actually, seems like James answered that; crazy prices!) For me, museum seems way too high-priced for anything other than a masterpiece. At Rooq NYC, the Conservation Clear with 99% protection is like ~$45, while the museum is ~$250. Only difference is lack of reflection if you happen to put your masterpiece near a light source, which seems like a terrible idea anyway. I get why people buy museum if they're flowing in it (since why not), or it's their favorite piece; otherwise it seems like money wasted a bit. Especially if you're replacing the glass every 5 years or so; that adds up for museum. Then again, I tend to be more frugal than others.
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coller
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by coller on Jul 30, 2015 14:31:40 GMT 1, This is a quote I got recently for my WWWK (100 x 140) Extra clear anti-reflective with 92% uv protection ยฃ300.00 Extra clear anti-reflective with 98% uv protection ยฃ350.00 "Regular" extra clear anti-reflection has a uv protection of 60%, this might be enough if you are not going to hang in a conservatory, the glass is ยฃ220.00. These prices are just for the piece of glass so the extra uv protection is coming at quite a cost. (the prices include VAT) Honestly might be cheaper to ship it to the US, have it framed with Conservation Clear (99% UV Plexi will probably be less than $120 for a piece that size), and then shipped back. Or use it as an opportunity to visit NYC, and bring the piece along. Those glass prices are crazy.
Or maybe that particular framer is just giving you the runaround? If not, I may need to start a UV plexi import/export business.
This is a quote I got recently for my WWWK (100 x 140) Extra clear anti-reflective with 92% uv protection ยฃ300.00 Extra clear anti-reflective with 98% uv protection ยฃ350.00 "Regular" extra clear anti-reflection has a uv protection of 60%, this might be enough if you are not going to hang in a conservatory, the glass is ยฃ220.00. These prices are just for the piece of glass so the extra uv protection is coming at quite a cost. (the prices include VAT) Honestly might be cheaper to ship it to the US, have it framed with Conservation Clear (99% UV Plexi will probably be less than $120 for a piece that size), and then shipped back. Or use it as an opportunity to visit NYC, and bring the piece along. Those glass prices are crazy. Or maybe that particular framer is just giving you the runaround? If not, I may need to start a UV plexi import/export business.
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iamzero
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by iamzero on Jul 30, 2015 17:12:01 GMT 1, As a hobby framer and without revealing prices, tru vue museum is around 7 or 8 times the price of tru vue conservation clear to me in the UK the last time I checked?
As a hobby framer and without revealing prices, tru vue museum is around 7 or 8 times the price of tru vue conservation clear to me in the UK the last time I checked?
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James
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by James on Jul 31, 2015 12:40:25 GMT 1, After doing some research I'm sticking with good old fashioned glass. UV acrylic might be cheep, but that's where the benefits end in my opinion. You have to clean it using acrylic cleaner, it degrades, discolours and bows on larger pieces.
I'm not framing a pile of, so why it using a pile of. Just my view, I can see its users
After doing some research I'm sticking with good old fashioned glass. UV acrylic might be cheep, but that's where the benefits end in my opinion. You have to clean it using acrylic cleaner, it degrades, discolours and bows on larger pieces.
I'm not framing a pile of, so why it using a pile of. Just my view, I can see its users
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UV Protection Glass โข Museum Glass, by basquiat1 on Aug 26, 2015 22:40:01 GMT 1, i did my first frame up with museum and it's amazing, like there is no glass at all, if it's a smaller work and therefor not prohibitively expensive go with museum
i did my first frame up with museum and it's amazing, like there is no glass at all, if it's a smaller work and therefor not prohibitively expensive go with museum
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