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NEW FAILE!, by jones27 on Jun 18, 2009 13:21:57 GMT 1, (someone didnt like my suggestion of staggering the price and has since removed their post)
Why the hate ? A relative steal if your on the ball. If your slow, your not gonna buy one on ebay with wet ink at higher cost when you could buy directly from Faile at a similar price.
(someone didnt like my suggestion of staggering the price and has since removed their post)
Why the hate ? A relative steal if your on the ball. If your slow, your not gonna buy one on ebay with wet ink at higher cost when you could buy directly from Faile at a similar price.
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NEW FAILE!, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2009 13:32:37 GMT 1, Faile can't reduce the prices It would f@ck off anyone who bought previously at the higher price and bring down the market value of all things Faile
but Faile's market value has fallen
Faile can't reduce the prices It would f@ck off anyone who bought previously at the higher price and bring down the market value of all things Faile but Faile's market value has fallen |
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NEW FAILE!, by silvermyn on Jun 18, 2009 13:37:54 GMT 1, Faile can't reduce the prices It would f@ck off anyone who bought previously at the higher price and bring down the market value of all things Faile but Faile's market value has fallen
Not just fallen but fallen big stylie 
Faile can't reduce the prices It would f@ck off anyone who bought previously at the higher price and bring down the market value of all things Faile but Faile's market value has fallen Not just fallen but fallen big stylie |
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NEW FAILE!, by moleman on Jun 18, 2009 13:41:41 GMT 1, if you take my confessions into account these are fairly cheap but she was a much nicer image released at a very different time
if you take my confessions into account these are fairly cheap but she was a much nicer image released at a very different time
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NEW FAILE!, by silvermyn on Jun 18, 2009 13:43:31 GMT 1, I see one of the images is called "Falling for Faile". Maybe it should read "Falling for Faile (but not at these prices)"
I see one of the images is called "Falling for Faile". Maybe it should read "Falling for Faile (but not at these prices)"
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NEW FAILE!, by Karl Read on Jun 18, 2009 13:56:11 GMT 1, Maybe releasing the editions at $1200 and then upping the price by $50 for every one sold. Like what Obey recently done. It would discourage flipping to a degree.
Dont mean to be nit picking but that was Iconolasts doing, Obey doesnt do that through their site. I think Iconolast does that with most of their artwork.
Maybe releasing the editions at $1200 and then upping the price by $50 for every one sold. Like what Obey recently done. It would discourage flipping to a degree. Dont mean to be nit picking but that was Iconolasts doing, Obey doesnt do that through their site. I think Iconolast does that with most of their artwork. |
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NEW FAILE!, by jones27 on Jun 18, 2009 13:59:32 GMT 1, ah right, cheers
Still like the idea tho.
ah right, cheers
Still like the idea tho.
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NEW FAILE!, by robo on Jun 18, 2009 14:36:10 GMT 1, I fell for Falling for Faile!  Was one of my favorite image from the last show. Would much rather buy direct from source than Ebay.
I fell for Falling for Faile! Was one of my favorite image from the last show. Would much rather buy direct from source than Ebay. |
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NEW FAILE!, by Karl Read on Jun 18, 2009 14:41:19 GMT 1, Yeah would probably work well.
Yeah would probably work well.
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NEW FAILE!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 18, 2009 14:42:41 GMT 1, What is the correct price to sell them at?
1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away.
2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay.
3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy.
What is the correct price to sell them at?
1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away.
2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay.
3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy.
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NEW FAILE!, by jones27 on Jun 18, 2009 14:48:53 GMT 1, Is there a market out there in this climate for people willing to spend 2k on a flipped Faile release? Id like to see the editions sell for £1000 at cost. It keeps a buzz about the product and is fairly accessable for the fans.
In an earlier post I slated the imagery on this release. However, I too am now falling for the falling for faile piece...Grower.
Is there a market out there in this climate for people willing to spend 2k on a flipped Faile release? Id like to see the editions sell for £1000 at cost. It keeps a buzz about the product and is fairly accessable for the fans.
In an earlier post I slated the imagery on this release. However, I too am now falling for the falling for faile piece...Grower.
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NEW FAILE!, by Dellboyy on Jun 18, 2009 14:53:35 GMT 1, Must admit Falling for Faile is my fav of this lot too!
Must admit Falling for Faile is my fav of this lot too!
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NEW FAILE!, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2009 14:56:32 GMT 1, I fell for Falling for Faile! Was one of my favorite image from the last show. Would much rather buy direct from source than Ebay.
and pay over the odds?
I fell for Falling for Faile! Was one of my favorite image from the last show. Would much rather buy direct from source than Ebay. and pay over the odds? |
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NEW FAILE!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 18, 2009 15:05:07 GMT 1, I fell for Falling for Faile! Was one of my favorite image from the last show. Would much rather buy direct from source than Ebay. and pay over the odds?
If its your only chance to get the image you want, and your gonna hang it on your wall at home and never think of selling it  Paying over what other people might think is too expensive dunt really come into it
I fell for Falling for Faile! Was one of my favorite image from the last show. Would much rather buy direct from source than Ebay. and pay over the odds? If its your only chance to get the image you want, and your gonna hang it on your wall at home and never think of selling it Paying over what other people might think is too expensive dunt really come into it |
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NEW FAILE!, by jones27 on Jun 18, 2009 15:21:09 GMT 1, thing is...this would probably fetch around £1400 on ebay. The coloured editions usually attract more interest.
thing is...this would probably fetch around £1400 on ebay. The coloured editions usually attract more interest.
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NEW FAILE!, by silvermyn on Jun 18, 2009 15:28:40 GMT 1, If its your only chance to get the image you want, and your gonna hang it on your wall at home and never think of selling it Paying over what other people might think is too expensive dunt really come into it
Based on that view Faile could start loading OG colourway prints on their site for £10's of 000's and it doesn't matter so long as you buy with a view to keeping it? No Sir, it does matter.
IMO there has to be some value in the art so people don't start thinking they are being taken for a ride. Once buyers get the feeling that they are no longer getting good or reasonable value for their money they will keep their hands in their pockets. This is what we are seeing with the recent Faile release.
If I was looking for a decent Faile image today at a price that I considered to be fair then I would be going to eBay first rather than source. That doesn't quite seem right to me but that's were we are today.
If its your only chance to get the image you want, and your gonna hang it on your wall at home and never think of selling it Paying over what other people might think is too expensive dunt really come into it Based on that view Faile could start loading OG colourway prints on their site for £10's of 000's and it doesn't matter so long as you buy with a view to keeping it? No Sir, it does matter. IMO there has to be some value in the art so people don't start thinking they are being taken for a ride. Once buyers get the feeling that they are no longer getting good or reasonable value for their money they will keep their hands in their pockets. This is what we are seeing with the recent Faile release. If I was looking for a decent Faile image today at a price that I considered to be fair then I would be going to eBay first rather than source. That doesn't quite seem right to me but that's were we are today. |
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NEW FAILE!, by galen1 on Jun 18, 2009 15:33:09 GMT 1, What is the correct price to sell them at? 1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away. 2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay. 3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy.
Don't really get what you're trying to say here can you explain a bit ?
1. Are you really saying that the only purchasers of low price art are people buying to sell straight on at a profit because I think that's a complete misrepresentation of fact and quite insulting to many collectors.
2. Which one then ? I mean there's huge discrepancies from week to week on ebay let alone comparisons with physical auctions, this as a base line is would have a massive range of prices so how would that work ?
3. Over priced ? what more than £1.4k for a print or is £1.4k already over priced ? whichever it is why can you only be a true lover if you can afford to spend that as I find it quite insulting that I couldn't be considered a "true fan" as I can't.
What is the correct price to sell them at? 1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away. 2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay. 3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy. Don't really get what you're trying to say here can you explain a bit ? 1. Are you really saying that the only purchasers of low price art are people buying to sell straight on at a profit because I think that's a complete misrepresentation of fact and quite insulting to many collectors. 2. Which one then ? I mean there's huge discrepancies from week to week on ebay let alone comparisons with physical auctions, this as a base line is would have a massive range of prices so how would that work ? 3. Over priced ? what more than £1.4k for a print or is £1.4k already over priced ? whichever it is why can you only be a true lover if you can afford to spend that as I find it quite insulting that I couldn't be considered a "true fan" as I can't. |
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NEW FAILE!, by wizzy on Jun 18, 2009 15:39:23 GMT 1, I reckon, buy it if you want to or dont buy it if you dont want to, is there more to it than this? sorry for being too simplistic about it.
I reckon, buy it if you want to or dont buy it if you dont want to, is there more to it than this? sorry for being too simplistic about it.
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NEW FAILE!, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2009 15:41:18 GMT 1, I reckon, buy it if you want to or dont buy it if you dont want to, is there more to it than this? sorry for being too simplistic about it.
Wiz thats only a simplistic view if you can afford to be that simplistic about it - unfortunately price is a big factor (whether we want it to be or not)
I reckon, buy it if you want to or dont buy it if you dont want to, is there more to it than this? sorry for being too simplistic about it. Wiz thats only a simplistic view if you can afford to be that simplistic about it - unfortunately price is a big factor (whether we want it to be or not) |
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NEW FAILE!, by wizzy on Jun 18, 2009 15:44:16 GMT 1, Okeydokey, apols. and see now. OI FAILE! behave! get your bloody prices down or else!.
Okeydokey, apols. and see now. OI FAILE! behave! get your bloody prices down or else!.
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NEW FAILE!, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2009 15:48:46 GMT 1, Okeydokey, apols. and see now. OI FAILE! behave! get your bloody prices down or else!.
no need to apologise my good man - lets hope Faile listen to you
Okeydokey, apols. and see now. OI FAILE! behave! get your bloody prices down or else!. no need to apologise my good man - lets hope Faile listen to you |
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NEW FAILE!, by jones27 on Jun 18, 2009 15:56:42 GMT 1, Of course we wouldnt moan so much if the exchange rate was better. £1150(ish) would be far more attractive.
Of course we wouldnt moan so much if the exchange rate was better. £1150(ish) would be far more attractive.
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NEW FAILE!, by Gentle Mental on Jun 18, 2009 15:57:33 GMT 1, i think the price at 2300 is fair.
but they should offer some "lower" tier prints - the mono colour versions
or slightly bigger runs (50 max)
i think the price at 2300 is fair.
but they should offer some "lower" tier prints - the mono colour versions
or slightly bigger runs (50 max)
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NEW FAILE!, by snausages on Jun 18, 2009 17:06:39 GMT 1, The whining about price is pretty lame. The price is relatively fair. Faile doesn't need to justify anything or run around checking forum boards making sure people are ok with the price. If you can't afford it move on. Lots of things I can't afford, I don't whine about it all day, maybe once, but not all day.
But you can't expect artists to run around and watch every ebay auction and lower and raise their prices on a never ending basis to keep inline with ebay. It's absurd, nobody does that and prices on ebay can be all over the place depending on what cheap bastards or desperate collectors are bidding.
The whining about price is pretty lame. The price is relatively fair. Faile doesn't need to justify anything or run around checking forum boards making sure people are ok with the price. If you can't afford it move on. Lots of things I can't afford, I don't whine about it all day, maybe once, but not all day.
But you can't expect artists to run around and watch every ebay auction and lower and raise their prices on a never ending basis to keep inline with ebay. It's absurd, nobody does that and prices on ebay can be all over the place depending on what cheap bastards or desperate collectors are bidding.
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NEW FAILE!, by manty on Jun 18, 2009 17:09:53 GMT 1, What is the correct price to sell them at? 1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away. 2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay. 3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy.
Knock them out cheap, I miss the flippers, come back please all is nearly forgiven
What is the correct price to sell them at? 1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away. 2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay. 3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy. Knock them out cheap, I miss the flippers, come back please all is nearly forgiven |
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NEW FAILE!, by manty on Jun 18, 2009 17:17:42 GMT 1, Truthfully though, thinking about it, £2k for a print is a little silly dont you think?
Well my wife does and she told me to tell you :-)
Truthfully though, thinking about it, £2k for a print is a little silly dont you think?
Well my wife does and she told me to tell you :-)
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NEW FAILE!, by Simococo on Jun 18, 2009 17:52:09 GMT 1, prices are fair
they will all sell out
just not in 30 seconds thats all
they cant win. People complain when they don't have anytime to decide on what they like and they complain when they do??
prices are fair
they will all sell out
just not in 30 seconds thats all
they cant win. People complain when they don't have anytime to decide on what they like and they complain when they do??
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NEW FAILE!, by moleman on Jun 18, 2009 18:54:47 GMT 1, i agree simococo but people prefer to have something on there wall they love and its worth more than they paid for it more imo than time to decide
i agree simococo but people prefer to have something on there wall they love and its worth more than they paid for it more imo than time to decide
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NEW FAILE!, by motor on Jun 18, 2009 19:31:25 GMT 1, The whining about price is pretty lame. The price is relatively fair. Faile doesn't need to justify anything or run around checking forum boards making sure people are ok with the price. If you can't afford it move on. Lots of things I can't afford, I don't whine about it all day, maybe once, but not all day. But you can't expect artists to run around and watch every ebay auction and lower and raise their prices on a never ending basis to keep inline with ebay. It's absurd, nobody does that and prices on ebay can be all over the place depending on what cheap bastards or desperate collectors are bidding.
Thanks for this post Snausages.
The amount of moaners is just crazy.
And Simococo made a good point too - you never gonna please everyone.
The whining about price is pretty lame. The price is relatively fair. Faile doesn't need to justify anything or run around checking forum boards making sure people are ok with the price. If you can't afford it move on. Lots of things I can't afford, I don't whine about it all day, maybe once, but not all day. But you can't expect artists to run around and watch every ebay auction and lower and raise their prices on a never ending basis to keep inline with ebay. It's absurd, nobody does that and prices on ebay can be all over the place depending on what cheap bastards or desperate collectors are bidding. Thanks for this post Snausages. The amount of moaners is just crazy. And Simococo made a good point too - you never gonna please everyone. |
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NEW FAILE!, by moleman on Jun 18, 2009 19:39:32 GMT 1, you are right motor but it was these places that made there price go up so it should work both ways also
you are right motor but it was these places that made there price go up so it should work both ways also
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Was one of my favorite image from the last show. Would much rather buy direct from source than Ebay.
Paying over what other people might think is too expensive dunt really come into it 
