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NEW FAILE!, by olapig on Jun 18, 2009 21:34:30 GMT 1, you are right motor but it was these places that made there price go up so it should work both ways also
I tend to agree with that. Am i the only one who reads this stuff in amazement that people can talk about prints for £1400 or so as if it is a drop in the ocean.
Posted by Silky on Today at 1:42pm
What is the correct price to sell them at?
1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away.
2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay.
[glow=red,2,300]3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy [/glow]
Perhaps everybody's got shit loads of money on this forum, being a true Faile lover i only wish i could afford it!!
you are right motor but it was these places that made there price go up so it should work both ways also I tend to agree with that. Am i the only one who reads this stuff in amazement that people can talk about prints for £1400 or so as if it is a drop in the ocean. Posted by Silky on Today at 1:42pm What is the correct price to sell them at? 1. At a low price so people can buy them, and resell them for a good profit straight away. 2. At a price in line with values at auction and ebay. [glow=red,2,300]3. Over priced, so people know they could not sell them for a profit (at least for the moment) meaning only true lovers of the work will buy [/glow] Perhaps everybody's got shit loads of money on this forum, being a true Faile lover i only wish i could afford it!! |
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NEW FAILE!, by shosho on Jun 21, 2009 23:43:33 GMT 1, faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out
aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet
faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex
faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness
ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile
simple tings blud
faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out
aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet
faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex
faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness
ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile
simple tings blud
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NEW FAILE!, by walters on Jun 21, 2009 23:56:20 GMT 1,
strange,but ive never bothered to find out who the other two are.
who are they?
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NEW FAILE!, by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 0:01:03 GMT 1, can anyone point out which elements they each did on a piece, so that we can see your point?
can anyone point out which elements they each did on a piece, so that we can see your point?
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NEW FAILE!, by Guest on Jun 22, 2009 0:12:34 GMT 1, I think Faile's best pieces were from 2006/2007, not sure if Aiko was there at that time?
I think Faile's best pieces were from 2006/2007, not sure if Aiko was there at that time?
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NEW FAILE!, by shosho on Jun 22, 2009 8:51:07 GMT 1, patrick mcneil and patrick miller are the other two, aiko left in late 2006 but they may of still had some of the ideas she contributed and used them or her themes after she left, so if 2006 -2007 were the halycon days then aiko's influence was definently still burning bright, remember they used a lot of reccuring themes ie bunny boy, bunny girl, sexy vixens in distress during 2007 and have only switched up with their new ideas now really.
you only have to look at aiko's solo stuff to see what her input was for example her constant bunny theme and sexy vixen shit
patrick mcneil and patrick miller are the other two, aiko left in late 2006 but they may of still had some of the ideas she contributed and used them or her themes after she left, so if 2006 -2007 were the halycon days then aiko's influence was definently still burning bright, remember they used a lot of reccuring themes ie bunny boy, bunny girl, sexy vixens in distress during 2007 and have only switched up with their new ideas now really.
you only have to look at aiko's solo stuff to see what her input was for example her constant bunny theme and sexy vixen shit
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NEW FAILE!, by mace on Jun 22, 2009 9:25:48 GMT 1, faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile simple tings blud
Top analysis, I agree.
Btw. still have an Aiko 'Lady Kill (Nude)' for sale. Got another version of that print on my wall and it's just a stunner !
Please pm me if interested !
faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile simple tings blud Top analysis, I agree. Btw. still have an Aiko 'Lady Kill (Nude)' for sale. Got another version of that print on my wall and it's just a stunner ! Please pm me if interested ! |
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NEW FAILE!, by Guest on Jun 22, 2009 9:40:22 GMT 1, some good points made shosho, this is my favorite Faile and defiantly not for sale.
some good points made shosho, this is my favorite Faile and defiantly not for sale. |
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NEW FAILE!, by dh on Jun 22, 2009 10:05:25 GMT 1, some good points made shosho, this is my favorite Faile and defiantly not for sale.
Always loved that one, nice one Ronhill. New Faile's just don't come close.
some good points made shosho, this is my favorite Faile and defiantly not for sale. Always loved that one, nice one Ronhill. New Faile's just don't come close. |
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NEW FAILE!, by BunnyBoiler on Jun 22, 2009 10:25:15 GMT 1, Original still popping up on the site... a bit surprised they haven't gone by now.
Original still popping up on the site... a bit surprised they haven't gone by now.
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NEW FAILE!, by Guest on Jun 22, 2009 10:29:37 GMT 1, 8k is a lot of cash, and the days of speculating on prices are over.
8k is a lot of cash, and the days of speculating on prices are over.
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NEW FAILE!, by Dellboyy on Jun 22, 2009 10:33:36 GMT 1, The one that's left would probably be my first choice of the originals too! (Not that i've got a spare $8k of course!  )
The one that's left would probably be my first choice of the originals too! (Not that i've got a spare $8k of course! ) |
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NEW FAILE!, by Guest on Jun 22, 2009 10:36:23 GMT 1, same here, the pic of the bunch.
same here, the pic of the bunch.
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NEW FAILE!, by BunnyBoiler on Jun 22, 2009 10:58:56 GMT 1, I agree... I like it the best of all the originals.
I agree... I like it the best of all the originals.
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NEW FAILE!, by fielder on Jun 22, 2009 11:40:20 GMT 1, The longer these prints go unsold, the more embarrassing it must be for them. I wonder if they'll have a rethink on their prices for their Autumn release.
The longer these prints go unsold, the more embarrassing it must be for them. I wonder if they'll have a rethink on their prices for their Autumn release.
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NEW FAILE!, by RBK on Jun 23, 2009 23:54:54 GMT 1, The longer these prints go unsold, the more embarrassing it must be for them. I wonder if they'll have a rethink on their prices for their Autumn release.
I hope you're joking fielder. If they don't sell-out instantly that isn't a failure / embarrasising whatsoever.
Can assure you Faile would rather them sell over the course of time to collectors who actually want them for their walls.
My best guess is this will the price point for a long time.
The longer these prints go unsold, the more embarrassing it must be for them. I wonder if they'll have a rethink on their prices for their Autumn release. I hope you're joking fielder. If they don't sell-out instantly that isn't a failure / embarrasising whatsoever. Can assure you Faile would rather them sell over the course of time to collectors who actually want them for their walls. My best guess is this will the price point for a long time. |
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NEW FAILE!, by holden on Jun 24, 2009 8:15:29 GMT 1, faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile simple tings blud
Love ya work
I concur and posted something similar although not so eloquent on the Faile forum this morning.
Nice post
faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile simple tings blud Love ya work I concur and posted something similar although not so eloquent on the Faile forum this morning. Nice post |
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NEW FAILE!, by weeble on Jun 24, 2009 9:55:59 GMT 1, The longer these prints go unsold, the more embarrassing it must be for them. I wonder if they'll have a rethink on their prices for their Autumn release.
Fielder - what the hell is your creepy ass avatar all about!?! lol. Looks mental!
The longer these prints go unsold, the more embarrassing it must be for them. I wonder if they'll have a rethink on their prices for their Autumn release. Fielder - what the hell is your creepy ass avatar all about!?! lol. Looks mental! |
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NEW FAILE!, by spencerlee on Jun 24, 2009 11:33:24 GMT 1, Very interested to see what price they stick on the remaining Butterfly Girl prints.
Very interested to see what price they stick on the remaining Butterfly Girl prints.
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NEW FAILE!, by Guest on Jun 24, 2009 11:37:33 GMT 1, when are they being released?
when are they being released?
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NEW FAILE!, by spencerlee on Jun 24, 2009 12:06:45 GMT 1, No idea, just going on what was posted (in this thread I think)
No idea, just going on what was posted (in this thread I think)
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NEW FAILE!, by linkd95 on Jun 28, 2009 13:01:01 GMT 1, They look gr8 but they REALLY NEED to do their ORIGINALS on CANVAS MORE NOT PAPER, but still brilliant 
They look gr8 but they REALLY NEED to do their ORIGINALS on CANVAS MORE NOT PAPER, but still brilliant |
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NEW FAILE!, by wizzy on Jun 28, 2009 14:10:30 GMT 1, Yes Linkd, but whats best? Paper or Canvas?. (wait for it).
Yes Linkd, but whats best? Paper or Canvas?. (wait for it).
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NEW FAILE!, by Guest on Jun 28, 2009 19:54:22 GMT 1, anyone got a spare £50k for a canvas?
anyone got a spare £50k for a canvas?
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NEW FAILE!, by motor on Jun 28, 2009 20:34:41 GMT 1, anyone got a spare £50k for a canvas?
Was thinking the same Ronhill.
Linkd.
Privately you might get smaller piece on canvas for £20K + (not that the medium really matters but since you've started it) however that's far, far away from those pieces on paper Faile offers through the web.
anyone got a spare £50k for a canvas? Was thinking the same Ronhill. Linkd. Privately you might get smaller piece on canvas for £20K + (not that the medium really matters but since you've started it) however that's far, far away from those pieces on paper Faile offers through the web. |
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NEW FAILE!, by snausages on Jun 28, 2009 20:42:58 GMT 1, Thanks silky, pretty solid results.
As for the Faile vs. Aiko talk, I don't want to dismiss Aiko's contributions but Faile is miles ahead of what Aiko is doing imo. The Patricks are and always were the driving force. I think the NYC show 2007 was the pinnacle, which had some elements left over from Aiko but that was really the Patricks you were looking at, it was hardly some fraud. The London show was really strong as well and the prayer wheels were phenomenal. I think it's great they're expanding on the themes, some of which I don't like as much as the earlier ones but so it goes. I am glad however they're not stuck on using bunnies and cutesy japanese elements. Still, the typography, the execution is killer, (although I think their color palette sometimes is just too much) but these guys are very skilled. I feel silly even having to defend em.
Thanks silky, pretty solid results.
As for the Faile vs. Aiko talk, I don't want to dismiss Aiko's contributions but Faile is miles ahead of what Aiko is doing imo. The Patricks are and always were the driving force. I think the NYC show 2007 was the pinnacle, which had some elements left over from Aiko but that was really the Patricks you were looking at, it was hardly some fraud. The London show was really strong as well and the prayer wheels were phenomenal. I think it's great they're expanding on the themes, some of which I don't like as much as the earlier ones but so it goes. I am glad however they're not stuck on using bunnies and cutesy japanese elements. Still, the typography, the execution is killer, (although I think their color palette sometimes is just too much) but these guys are very skilled. I feel silly even having to defend em.
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NEW FAILE!, by mace on Jun 29, 2009 10:51:50 GMT 1, faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile simple tings blud Top analysis, I agree. Btw. still have an Aiko 'Lady Kill (Nude)' for sale. Got another version of that print on my wall and it's just a stunner ! Please pm me if interested !
Just wanted to let you know that I put my Aiko 'Lady Kill (Nude)' on eBay now. Starting price 0.99 BP, no reserve ! Get your bargain here:
Item number: 160344842001
cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aiko-Lady-Kill-Nude-signed-print-Banksy-postcard_W0QQitemZ160344842001QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_art_prints_GL?hash=item25554c1f11&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
faile without aiko are still very good at what they do but it's obvious the elements she brought to the table were very important to early faile work, there just seems to be something missing in the recent failes for me, likewise with aiko's solo stuff some of it is excellent but it's almost like she needs the faile boys to reign her in as her work can be quite cutesy sometimes and they need her to bring the adventure, glamour and sexiness back to faile, they balanced each other out aiko solo - good but too cute and sweet faile without aiko - good but lacks the soul, glamour and sex faile together again - a perfect balance of aggression with sexiness ps - nostalgia has nothing to do with this as im fully aware artists need to progress but faile need her and she needs faile simple tings blud Top analysis, I agree. Btw. still have an Aiko 'Lady Kill (Nude)' for sale. Got another version of that print on my wall and it's just a stunner ! Please pm me if interested ! Just wanted to let you know that I put my Aiko 'Lady Kill (Nude)' on eBay now. Starting price 0.99 BP, no reserve ! Get your bargain here: Item number: 160344842001 cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aiko-Lady-Kill-Nude-signed-print-Banksy-postcard_W0QQitemZ160344842001QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_art_prints_GL?hash=item25554c1f11&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 |
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