Winter
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Winter on Sept 30, 2009 18:12:36 GMT 1, Have a couple of pieces to sell including a Grin Reaper but not sure the best way to sell the Parla. Ebay doesn't feel right so thinking about an auction house but not too sure which one. If anyone feels they can advise please PM. Thanks
Have a couple of pieces to sell including a Grin Reaper but not sure the best way to sell the Parla. Ebay doesn't feel right so thinking about an auction house but not too sure which one. If anyone feels they can advise please PM. Thanks
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jB
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Best place to sell a Parla, by jB on Sept 30, 2009 18:17:08 GMT 1, Im sure any of them will take it in
Im sure any of them will take it in
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njr911
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Best place to sell a Parla, by njr911 on Sept 30, 2009 19:43:37 GMT 1, Sotherbys...Bonhams and Christies are for paupers 
Sotherbys...Bonhams and Christies are for paupers |
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corisma
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Best place to sell a Parla, by corisma on Sept 30, 2009 20:11:46 GMT 1, Maybe put a pic up on here 
Maybe put a pic up on here |
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Philippe
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Philippe on Sept 30, 2009 20:26:20 GMT 1, Paupers...haven't heard that in a while. I would say ideally an auction house in the UK. Sotheby's or Phillips either will take it in.
Paupers...haven't heard that in a while. I would say ideally an auction house in the UK. Sotheby's or Phillips either will take it in.
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Francis
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Francis on Sept 30, 2009 20:32:20 GMT 1, i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon
i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon
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Zippy
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Zippy on Sept 30, 2009 20:39:53 GMT 1, i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon
Interesting post Francis,
Why do you feel that?
i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon Interesting post Francis, Why do you feel that? |
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jB
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Best place to sell a Parla, by jB on Sept 30, 2009 20:47:46 GMT 1, i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon
Good to know 
Maybe now I can actually pick one up
i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon Good to know Maybe now I can actually pick one up |
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Harveyn on Sept 30, 2009 20:52:54 GMT 1, I'll second that JB.
I'll second that JB.
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Winter
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Winter on Sept 30, 2009 21:49:55 GMT 1, Agreed
Agreed
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Winter
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Winter on Sept 30, 2009 23:23:24 GMT 1, To those that have sent through PMs I will get back to you tomorrow with details. Thanks
To those that have sent through PMs I will get back to you tomorrow with details. Thanks
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Best place to sell a Parla, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 30, 2009 23:54:56 GMT 1, i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon Interesting post Francis, Why do you feel that?
Not as outlandish as it sounds. His recent auction "results" for very strong pieces have substantially dragged down his (formerly) speculative valuation. Once speculation ends theres usually a bunch that bail out. Human psychology...
i say hurry up, mate, as others are going to have the same idea and sell their Parlas as well soon Interesting post Francis, Why do you feel that? Not as outlandish as it sounds. His recent auction "results" for very strong pieces have substantially dragged down his (formerly) speculative valuation. Once speculation ends theres usually a bunch that bail out. Human psychology... |
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Best place to sell a Parla, by buffin on Oct 1, 2009 9:11:31 GMT 1, Please post a picture. I love all that usual nonsense of Parla fans getting their knickers in a twist.
Please post a picture. I love all that usual nonsense of Parla fans getting their knickers in a twist. |
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corisma
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Best place to sell a Parla, by corisma on Oct 1, 2009 11:39:34 GMT 1, I can't see the problem
Wanting to offload a nice expensive piece but can't put a pic up on an art forum full of fans
Sad really 
I can't see the problem Wanting to offload a nice expensive piece but can't put a pic up on an art forum full of fans Sad really |
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Francis
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Francis on Oct 1, 2009 18:20:56 GMT 1, Pretty much somes up the position of every artist we follow at the moment though.
but there ain't any artists as expensive as Parla, cept Kaws and Banksy and they have held steady as far as originals.
Pretty much somes up the position of every artist we follow at the moment though. but there ain't any artists as expensive as Parla, cept Kaws and Banksy and they have held steady as far as originals. |
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Best place to sell a Parla, by snausages on Oct 1, 2009 18:44:35 GMT 1, I know at least 2 and I could have sworn that about 3 or 4 Parla pieces were up for auction recently? But I can't find any record of them at any auction houses. I know one went unsold at christies but they don't post unsold lots, does that mean all of them went unsold?
I know at least 2 and I could have sworn that about 3 or 4 Parla pieces were up for auction recently? But I can't find any record of them at any auction houses. I know one went unsold at christies but they don't post unsold lots, does that mean all of them went unsold?
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Francis
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Francis on Oct 1, 2009 18:44:42 GMT 1, I dont want to turn this into another argumentative thread and wish Winter all the best his sale as I would anyone.
that's very mature of you. "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH ME SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!"
I dont want to turn this into another argumentative thread and wish Winter all the best his sale as I would anyone. that's very mature of you. "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH ME SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!" |
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skanky
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Best place to sell a Parla, by skanky on Oct 1, 2009 18:56:01 GMT 1, Yeah youv'e got me spot on there, well done. You win.
Yeah youv'e got me spot on there, well done. You win.
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lee3
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Best place to sell a Parla, by lee3 on Oct 1, 2009 19:55:20 GMT 1, I know at least 2 and I could have sworn that about 3 or 4 Parla pieces were up for auction recently? But I can't find any record of them at any auction houses. I know one went unsold at christies but they don't post unsold lots, does that mean all of them went unsold?
They're on artnet. There were two at Bonhams on the 23rd bought in with low estimates of 5k and 25k GBP. There was a third at Sotheby's on the 24th bought in with a low estimate of 25k US. The one you are referring to at Christie's is a nice one and comes under the hammer on the 17th of this month with a low estimate of 15k GBP. I'd venture a guess that the nice one at Bonham's (which sufered from very poor placement in an underwhelming sale) found an after sale buyer as it's one of the better examples of his work to my eyes. With the exception of '05-'08, September has always been a silly time imo to put work to auction. I'd expect much better results for the seller at Christie's this month.
I know at least 2 and I could have sworn that about 3 or 4 Parla pieces were up for auction recently? But I can't find any record of them at any auction houses. I know one went unsold at christies but they don't post unsold lots, does that mean all of them went unsold? They're on artnet. There were two at Bonhams on the 23rd bought in with low estimates of 5k and 25k GBP. There was a third at Sotheby's on the 24th bought in with a low estimate of 25k US. The one you are referring to at Christie's is a nice one and comes under the hammer on the 17th of this month with a low estimate of 15k GBP. I'd venture a guess that the nice one at Bonham's (which sufered from very poor placement in an underwhelming sale) found an after sale buyer as it's one of the better examples of his work to my eyes. With the exception of '05-'08, September has always been a silly time imo to put work to auction. I'd expect much better results for the seller at Christie's this month. |
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Best place to sell a Parla, by snausages on Oct 1, 2009 20:08:10 GMT 1, Thanks Lee. Would be more surprised if the one on the 17th doesn't sell as 25k is a price threshold where it's possible for a lot more people than 50-70k and there seems to be a ton of people here wanting one. But it doesn't seem people are putting their money where their mouth is. I'm still amazed that the one at Sothebys was able to get for 50k last spring.
Thanks Lee. Would be more surprised if the one on the 17th doesn't sell as 25k is a price threshold where it's possible for a lot more people than 50-70k and there seems to be a ton of people here wanting one. But it doesn't seem people are putting their money where their mouth is. I'm still amazed that the one at Sothebys was able to get for 50k last spring.
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lee3
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Best place to sell a Parla, by lee3 on Oct 1, 2009 20:51:56 GMT 1,
Imho, if you are buying a Hains, you buy one on steel. These both fit that bill and they are priced to move. Hains was the only one of the three (Villegle and Rotella being the others) to use steel to the best of my knowledge. Let me put it this way, he's the one that's famous for using steel anyway. I don't own any Hains but have familiarized myself with his work from my love of Villegle over the past decade. The one from '61 is the right year though a bit minimalist for my tastes compared with some of his other work. Both of those would have cost at least $100k 18 months ago but Hains has been a difficult sell at auction as of late. I'm tempted by the '61 piece.
Sorry for the tangent to the original poster though I suppose this often happens on these boards. I've reviewed PdP and Christie's October sales and I must say I am beyond shocked at the lack of quality work offered in the London Ocotber sales. I thought this would be one of the highest quality autumn seasons I've seen in years and I can't believe how underwhelming the inventory is to my eyes. I'm in disbelief that Christie's is not offering a Fontana or Warhol in their London evening sale- I didn't even think such a thing was possible.
Imho, if you are buying a Hains, you buy one on steel. These both fit that bill and they are priced to move. Hains was the only one of the three (Villegle and Rotella being the others) to use steel to the best of my knowledge. Let me put it this way, he's the one that's famous for using steel anyway. I don't own any Hains but have familiarized myself with his work from my love of Villegle over the past decade. The one from '61 is the right year though a bit minimalist for my tastes compared with some of his other work. Both of those would have cost at least $100k 18 months ago but Hains has been a difficult sell at auction as of late. I'm tempted by the '61 piece. Sorry for the tangent to the original poster though I suppose this often happens on these boards. I've reviewed PdP and Christie's October sales and I must say I am beyond shocked at the lack of quality work offered in the London Ocotber sales. I thought this would be one of the highest quality autumn seasons I've seen in years and I can't believe how underwhelming the inventory is to my eyes. I'm in disbelief that Christie's is not offering a Fontana or Warhol in their London evening sale- I didn't even think such a thing was possible. |
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Best place to sell a Parla, by lee3 on Oct 2, 2009 19:14:28 GMT 1, >>>Can someone post a pic?
It was exhibited at the Italy exhibition at Il Trifoglio Nero and I think it might be the actual one on the cover of the Memory Documents hardback book that accompanied that exhibition.<<<
Is the paint on this thing even dry?
Josรฉ Parlรก
Title Painters' history
Medium acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas
Size 35.8 x 35.8 in. / 91 x 91 cm.
Year 2008 -
Description Josรฉ Parlรก (B.1973)
Painters' History
signed twice, titled and dated 'PAINTERS' HISTORY J.Parlรก' 2008 'JOSร PARLร' (on the reverse)
acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas
36 x 36in. (91 x 91cm.)
Executed in 2008
Misc. Signed, Inscribed
Sale Of Christie's London: Saturday, October 17, 2009 [Lot 174]
Post-War & Contemporary Art Day Auction
Estimate 15,000 - 20,000 BP (24,445 - 32,594 US$)
Auction Info. 8 King Street, St. James's
London , SW1Y 6QT United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)20 783 9060
Fax: +44 (0)20 7839 1611
Click here to email auction house
Bid Dept. Tel: +44 (0)20 7389 2658
Provenance Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Genova
Exhibition Genova, Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Memory Documents, March-May 2008
>>>Can someone post a pic? It was exhibited at the Italy exhibition at Il Trifoglio Nero and I think it might be the actual one on the cover of the Memory Documents hardback book that accompanied that exhibition.<<< Is the paint on this thing even dry? Josรฉ Parlรก Title Painters' history Medium acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas Size 35.8 x 35.8 in. / 91 x 91 cm. Year 2008 - Description Josรฉ Parlรก (B.1973) Painters' History signed twice, titled and dated 'PAINTERS' HISTORY J.Parlรก' 2008 'JOSร PARLร' (on the reverse) acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas 36 x 36in. (91 x 91cm.) Executed in 2008 Misc. Signed, Inscribed Sale Of Christie's London: Saturday, October 17, 2009 [Lot 174] Post-War & Contemporary Art Day Auction Estimate 15,000 - 20,000 BP (24,445 - 32,594 US$) Auction Info. 8 King Street, St. James's London , SW1Y 6QT United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)20 783 9060 Fax: +44 (0)20 7839 1611 Click here to email auction house Bid Dept. Tel: +44 (0)20 7389 2658 Provenance Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Genova Exhibition Genova, Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Memory Documents, March-May 2008 |
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Simococo on Oct 2, 2009 19:21:46 GMT 1, thats a most excellent example of his work
great size too
this will sell
100%
thats a most excellent example of his work
great size too
this will sell
100%
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Best place to sell a Parla, by oneeye on Oct 2, 2009 19:58:46 GMT 1, Simply gorgeous.
Simply gorgeous.
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Best place to sell a Parla, by mose on Oct 2, 2009 21:35:21 GMT 1, I am sorry to see that Painters' History and Writer's Line have been separated. They should have been kept together as a diptych as originally presented.
Painters' History is the front cover of the Memory Documents book. Wrtier's Line is the back.
I am sorry to see that Painters' History and Writer's Line have been separated. They should have been kept together as a diptych as originally presented.
Painters' History is the front cover of the Memory Documents book. Wrtier's Line is the back.
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Best place to sell a Parla, by RolexDave on Oct 2, 2009 22:48:25 GMT 1, >>>Can someone post a pic? It was exhibited at the Italy exhibition at Il Trifoglio Nero and I think it might be the actual one on the cover of the Memory Documents hardback book that accompanied that exhibition.<<< Is the paint on this thing even dry? Josรฉ Parlรก Title Painters' history Medium acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas Size 35.8 x 35.8 in. / 91 x 91 cm. Year 2008 - Description Josรฉ Parlรก (B.1973) Painters' History signed twice, titled and dated 'PAINTERS' HISTORY J.Parlรก' 2008 'JOSร PARLร' (on the reverse) acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas 36 x 36in. (91 x 91cm.) Executed in 2008 Misc. Signed, Inscribed Sale Of Christie's London: Saturday, October 17, 2009 [Lot 174] Post-War & Contemporary Art Day Auction Estimate 15,000 - 20,000 BP (24,445 - 32,594 US$) Auction Info. 8 King Street, St. James's London , SW1Y 6QT United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)20 783 9060 Fax: +44 (0)20 7839 1611 Click here to email auction house Bid Dept. Tel: +44 (0)20 7389 2658 Provenance Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Genova Exhibition Genova, Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Memory Documents, March-May 2008
A bloody shame.
Never in the field of contemporary art have paintings gone from easel to auction
as quickly as this scene. "Collectors" must have very low boredom thresholds indeed.
>>>Can someone post a pic? It was exhibited at the Italy exhibition at Il Trifoglio Nero and I think it might be the actual one on the cover of the Memory Documents hardback book that accompanied that exhibition.<<< Is the paint on this thing even dry? Josรฉ Parlรก Title Painters' history Medium acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas Size 35.8 x 35.8 in. / 91 x 91 cm. Year 2008 - Description Josรฉ Parlรก (B.1973) Painters' History signed twice, titled and dated 'PAINTERS' HISTORY J.Parlรก' 2008 'JOSร PARLร' (on the reverse) acrylic, ink, crushed ceramic and gel medium on canvas 36 x 36in. (91 x 91cm.) Executed in 2008 Misc. Signed, Inscribed Sale Of Christie's London: Saturday, October 17, 2009 [Lot 174] Post-War & Contemporary Art Day Auction Estimate 15,000 - 20,000 BP (24,445 - 32,594 US$) Auction Info. 8 King Street, St. James's London , SW1Y 6QT United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)20 783 9060 Fax: +44 (0)20 7839 1611 Click here to email auction house Bid Dept. Tel: +44 (0)20 7389 2658 Provenance Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Genova Exhibition Genova, Galleria Il Trifoglio Nero, Memory Documents, March-May 2008 A bloody shame. Never in the field of contemporary art have paintings gone from easel to auction as quickly as this scene. "Collectors" must have very low boredom thresholds indeed. |
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Zippy
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Best place to sell a Parla, by Zippy on Oct 3, 2009 0:17:11 GMT 1, Agree. A great Artist is Jose and I love looking at his works whether in a show, in a book or when people post on here.
I am guessing the cost price for this would have been more than its low estimate?
Agree. A great Artist is Jose and I love looking at his works whether in a show, in a book or when people post on here.
I am guessing the cost price for this would have been more than its low estimate?
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oneeye
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Best place to sell a Parla, by oneeye on Oct 3, 2009 3:03:51 GMT 1, Cost must've been at least $40K no?
Cost must've been at least $40K no?
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