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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by mammal2 on Aug 4, 2007 9:46:52 GMT 1, AMAZING!!!! SIMPLY SOME OF THE BEST WORK I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!
AMAZING!!!! SIMPLY SOME OF THE BEST WORK I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by Rude Copper on Aug 4, 2007 9:47:04 GMT 1, CBL - Seriously mate, worth every single penny! I know they're good, I'm not arguing about that. It's the cost and it's easy money, you pay a professional photographer less than ยฃ500 for half a days work, a little tweak in photoshop, and press print.
would i be right in thinking you have neither seen an original or one of the prints 'in the flesh'?
CBL - Seriously mate, worth every single penny! I know they're good, I'm not arguing about that. It's the cost and it's easy money, you pay a professional photographer less than ยฃ500 for half a days work, a little tweak in photoshop, and press print. would i be right in thinking you have neither seen an original or one of the prints 'in the flesh'? |
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by carlito on Aug 4, 2007 11:03:46 GMT 1, Nicely put speebe, with you 100% Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue.
who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like.
The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club.
it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few...
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Nicely put speebe, with you 100% Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue. who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like. The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club. it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few... Peace |
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by mammal2 on Aug 4, 2007 11:31:56 GMT 1, Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue. who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like. The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club. it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few... Peace
plus 1 from me. its also amazing how people have such a girth of knowledge regarding movements and other such like. Simply amazing that people today can open another window on their browser and search google and pass it off as their own words. i want to get involved - whats wikipedias address. ha  Also Manchester Mike send me a t-shirt and ill have your children. ;D
Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue. who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like. The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club. it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few... Peace plus 1 from me. its also amazing how people have such a girth of knowledge regarding movements and other such like. Simply amazing that people today can open another window on their browser and search google and pass it off as their own words. i want to get involved - whats wikipedias address. ha Also Manchester Mike send me a t-shirt and ill have your children. ;D |
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by ABC on Aug 4, 2007 11:45:37 GMT 1, Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue. who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like. The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club. it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few... Peace
I think Adam Neate, Banksy and Micallef are all now in an elistist group, lets face not many can afford 20k+ for an original. Even ยฃ900 for a young collector is more than most could afford. Its a sad fact but we all have to accept it. I would not have though it though when RC was ยฃ25 on POW.
Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue. who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like. The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club. it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few... Peace I think Adam Neate, Banksy and Micallef are all now in an elistist group, lets face not many can afford 20k+ for an original. Even ยฃ900 for a young collector is more than most could afford. Its a sad fact but we all have to accept it. I would not have though it though when RC was ยฃ25 on POW. |
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by carlito on Aug 4, 2007 11:51:35 GMT 1, doesn't mean we can't all enjoy their work though eh? ...and with the growth of prints (oh how the established art toff's hate this...) there's a much larger market for art than ever before...power to people
doesn't mean we can't all enjoy their work though eh? ...and with the growth of prints (oh how the established art toff's hate this...) there's a much larger market for art than ever before...power to people |
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by Rude Copper on Aug 4, 2007 13:16:21 GMT 1, carlito, i could'nt agree more, this movement has evolved from the street, & bypassed the traditional art clique's, i think the reason adam, banksy & micallef's work is so much is that the pro art colloectors have missed the bus, & are now creating bidding wars amongst themselves to try to catch up, its fucking marvellous & long may it continue, it belongs to us, not the erudite arseholes who can cross relate & corrolate genres & movements, you dont need to do that anymore, this work is raw & original.
carlito, i could'nt agree more, this movement has evolved from the street, & bypassed the traditional art clique's, i think the reason adam, banksy & micallef's work is so much is that the pro art colloectors have missed the bus, & are now creating bidding wars amongst themselves to try to catch up, its fucking marvellous & long may it continue, it belongs to us, not the erudite arseholes who can cross relate & corrolate genres & movements, you dont need to do that anymore, this work is raw & original.
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by worlddomination on Aug 4, 2007 13:25:53 GMT 1, the whole giclee argument is boring they look amazing and the people who buy them will love them on their walls (f**k the filppers) i am not gonna ignore them coz they are 'inkjets', i dont give a s**t
Got to agree 100% with you to it's the art that counts not the fucking print process or the costs/methods involved +1
the whole giclee argument is boring they look amazing and the people who buy them will love them on their walls (f**k the filppers) i am not gonna ignore them coz they are 'inkjets', i dont give a s**t Got to agree 100% with you to it's the art that counts not the fucking print process or the costs/methods involved +1 |
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by Monkey on Aug 4, 2007 13:26:11 GMT 1, Does anyone know the web address of that site that charts ebay sales. Cheers ears....... ;D
Does anyone know the web address of that site that charts ebay sales. Cheers ears....... ;D
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by mcnuts on Aug 4, 2007 13:33:55 GMT 1, Does anyone know the web address of that site that charts ebay sales. Cheers ears....... ;D
this?
www.Expressobeans/
Does anyone know the web address of that site that charts ebay sales. Cheers ears....... ;D this? www.Expressobeans/ |
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by worlddomination on Aug 4, 2007 13:35:40 GMT 1, I think I would speak for a volume of people on this forum and those who were at the show, we are not the establishement for all the old art we are the new wave of people who can see new greatness being created around us, and I think virtually everyone who passes through the doors of Elms over the next week whoever they are can see that there is something special very special in the work that they will be viewing, only time will tell but if adam is not a world player in the art scene within the next 3/5 years then I and many many more will be surprised beyond belief. I was just talking with Paul and I asked why none of the "establisement" don't come to see his work and he said they are too busy with their heads up their own arses, I think that sums it up!
I think I would speak for a volume of people on this forum and those who were at the show, we are not the establishement for all the old art we are the new wave of people who can see new greatness being created around us, and I think virtually everyone who passes through the doors of Elms over the next week whoever they are can see that there is something special very special in the work that they will be viewing, only time will tell but if adam is not a world player in the art scene within the next 3/5 years then I and many many more will be surprised beyond belief. I was just talking with Paul and I asked why none of the "establisement" don't come to see his work and he said they are too busy with their heads up their own arses, I think that sums it up!
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by Monkey on Aug 4, 2007 14:36:09 GMT 1, Cheers mcnuts thats the one...
Cheers mcnuts thats the one...
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Holy Grail?...Elms/Neate, by speebe on Aug 4, 2007 21:05:25 GMT 1, Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue. who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like. The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club. it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few... Peace
Carlito... That's what I was trying to say and I agree with you.
I freely admit that I've found myself being astonished by the lack of general arts based knowledge considering the money being spent by some... e.g. Not knowing which artist inspired Rene Gagnon's Creation series when you own one?
It's just that I've heard many people complain about this type of consumer, they are buying the work because they connect with it, nothing more... They educated themselves via a different route and I was trying to say although some find it frustrating but we can't afford to be art snobs... they have as much right as anyone else.
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To quote myself..."These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... " (Forums, magazines, blogs etc)
"which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work..."
I've always hated the elitist nature of the arts... I came into the arts from a rough council estate, poor schooling, single parent family with nothing more than a desire to create...
Thankyou ABC... I really mean it. It's no shock that there's such a buzz about the show and Adam's work. As many have mentioned in this and other Neate threads, quite a few people at the show couldn't put his work into any kind of creative or artistic context as they had little or no understanding of Art History. These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... They buy because of Hype and word of mouth etc which all of us here contribute too, which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work... This will continue as long as we vocalise our thoughts and tell those uneducated in the arts how great a persons work is. As frustrating as I find it, we have to accept that will continue. who's criticising ppl for buying with no knowledge of Art History? And why if you have no knowledge of Art History you're buying because of word of mouth and hype? .... This sounds like something that would happen on Wall**Candy and quite frankly is ppl talking with those nose poked up in their air who don't like 'normal' people joing their little club...I have some grounding in art ...I do like Francis Bacon, I also like Rothko and some others but I haven't great knowledge of movements etc I base what i like on exactly that, what i like. The great thing about alot of art these days and EXACTLY what Banksy was saying is that we need to reclaim art it doesn't need to be the preserve of an upper class elitist group with the money and the knowledge, i'll put it on the streets so the normal man is allowed into the club. it is NOT frsutrating that the uneducated enjoy Adam's work - it f*cking wonderful - Art should be for everyone to enjoy - if Adam's work crosses boundaries and let ppl enjoy the work of other greats than even better - but this is not a club that should be just for the educated few... Peace Carlito... That's what I was trying to say and I agree with you. I freely admit that I've found myself being astonished by the lack of general arts based knowledge considering the money being spent by some... e.g. Not knowing which artist inspired Rene Gagnon's Creation series when you own one? It's just that I've heard many people complain about this type of consumer, they are buying the work because they connect with it, nothing more... They educated themselves via a different route and I was trying to say although some find it frustrating but we can't afford to be art snobs... they have as much right as anyone else. . To quote myself..."These individuals are making their choice and spending their money based firmly on what they like or what the taste makers suggest they should like... " (Forums, magazines, blogs etc) "which is why I find it odd when some forum members bemoan those buying without knowlege of the subject, the artist or their work..." I've always hated the elitist nature of the arts... I came into the arts from a rough council estate, poor schooling, single parent family with nothing more than a desire to create... |
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