Michael Jacob
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Micallef LA Show..., by Michael Jacob on Aug 15, 2007 21:43:49 GMT 1, Simococo I agree with you, but then Im 3,000 miles from home with nothing to do!
Simococo I agree with you, but then Im 3,000 miles from home with nothing to do!
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Micallef LA Show..., by brainthedog on Aug 16, 2007 16:48:07 GMT 1, You could go to Disneyland. My girlfriend and I are doing that
You could go to Disneyland. My girlfriend and I are doing that
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ยฎat
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Micallef LA Show..., by ยฎat on Aug 16, 2007 16:53:24 GMT 1, Simococo I agree with you, but then Im 3,000 miles from home with nothing to do!
If home is the uk then its 5000 miles Plenty to do in LA...if nothing else, go shopping and abuse the exchange rate ....
Simococo I agree with you, but then Im 3,000 miles from home with nothing to do! If home is the uk then its 5000 miles Plenty to do in LA...if nothing else, go shopping and abuse the exchange rate ....
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Micallef LA Show..., by cashman on Aug 16, 2007 17:22:34 GMT 1, Does this mean we're having a Hutch forum? At some point, I should think so.
im think he was joking silk
Does this mean we're having a Hutch forum? At some point, I should think so. im think he was joking silk
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Micallef LA Show..., by Daniel Silk on Aug 16, 2007 17:28:21 GMT 1, At some point, I should think so. im think he was joking silk
It might come back to haunt him
At some point, I should think so. im think he was joking silk It might come back to haunt him
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Micallef LA Show..., by cashman on Aug 16, 2007 17:33:09 GMT 1, im think he was joking silk It might come back to haunt him
lol
im think he was joking silk It might come back to haunt him lol
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matbat
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Micallef LA Show..., by matbat on Aug 16, 2007 17:33:50 GMT 1, hi, what is the date of the micleff show please everyone. thanks.
hi, what is the date of the micleff show please everyone. thanks.
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jam
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Micallef LA Show..., by jam on Aug 16, 2007 17:36:22 GMT 1, Evening of the 18th if you have an invite to the preview... otherwise its September 19th through 29th.
Evening of the 18th if you have an invite to the preview... otherwise its September 19th through 29th.
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jB
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Micallef LA Show..., by jB on Aug 16, 2007 23:23:34 GMT 1, how early do you think they send out those email invites...day of or before?
how early do you think they send out those email invites...day of or before?
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Photoxtc
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Micallef LA Show..., by Photoxtc on Aug 16, 2007 23:25:41 GMT 1, and.... how early do we need to get in line for the preview show to be able to get prints???
and.... how early do we need to get in line for the preview show to be able to get prints???
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Micallef LA Show..., by brainthedog on Aug 16, 2007 23:40:33 GMT 1, well as it's a smaller amount than the actual show, i suspect that you probably don't have to lineup super early...i dunno like 5 p.m.?
well as it's a smaller amount than the actual show, i suspect that you probably don't have to lineup super early...i dunno like 5 p.m.?
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Micallef LA Show..., by bobbymeachamjr on Aug 17, 2007 0:30:00 GMT 1, and.... how early do we need to get in line for the preview show to be able to get prints???
despite the hysteria of this forum i don't think you'll need to "line up" for $4000+ edition of 400 prints
and.... how early do we need to get in line for the preview show to be able to get prints??? despite the hysteria of this forum i don't think you'll need to "line up" for $4000+ edition of 400 prints
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Micallef LA Show..., by atkuefler on Aug 17, 2007 4:08:28 GMT 1, I really dont think they are going to be $4000+ for an edition of 400. If so Laz is nuts. I think that would just piss off a bunch of fans and ultimately turn them off to doing business with him. There is a price cap on everything and if he prices them there he is well over that cap. IMO.... I think that would be very risky being he will be in LA and not in London. People don't know Micallef in the US like they do in the UK. He would risk not selling out and then that would be bad press.
I really dont think they are going to be $4000+ for an edition of 400. If so Laz is nuts. I think that would just piss off a bunch of fans and ultimately turn them off to doing business with him. There is a price cap on everything and if he prices them there he is well over that cap. IMO.... I think that would be very risky being he will be in LA and not in London. People don't know Micallef in the US like they do in the UK. He would risk not selling out and then that would be bad press.
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Micallef LA Show..., by bobbymeachamjr on Aug 17, 2007 5:17:22 GMT 1, I really dont think they are going to be $4000+ for an edition of 400. If so Laz is nuts. I think that would just piss off a bunch of fans and ultimately turn them off to doing business with him. There is a price cap on everything and if he prices them there he is well over that cap. IMO.... I think that would be very risky being he will be in LA and not in London. People don't know Micallef in the US like they do in the UK. He would risk not selling out and then that would be bad press.
Well they sent an official email to all the preview invitees regarding the print price so I don't expect any deviation. You know when you get so big so fast it gets to your head. You feel invincible. Print prices are so out of wack because the scene is followed by the masses and we're outbidding each other for what historically did not have much relative value. Can you imagine how much power he feels knowing that he can make millions by simply pushing the "print" button on a printer? Knowing this he's clearly taking advantage of the the common peoples lust for "art" even though what we're getting is a replica on a piece of paper. Prints cost practically nothing to make and they're potentially going to make more from the prints than the originals. Simply amazing.
oh he'll "sell out" - all the non prints will sell out = sell out.
I really dont think they are going to be $4000+ for an edition of 400. If so Laz is nuts. I think that would just piss off a bunch of fans and ultimately turn them off to doing business with him. There is a price cap on everything and if he prices them there he is well over that cap. IMO.... I think that would be very risky being he will be in LA and not in London. People don't know Micallef in the US like they do in the UK. He would risk not selling out and then that would be bad press. Well they sent an official email to all the preview invitees regarding the print price so I don't expect any deviation. You know when you get so big so fast it gets to your head. You feel invincible. Print prices are so out of wack because the scene is followed by the masses and we're outbidding each other for what historically did not have much relative value. Can you imagine how much power he feels knowing that he can make millions by simply pushing the "print" button on a printer? Knowing this he's clearly taking advantage of the the common peoples lust for "art" even though what we're getting is a replica on a piece of paper. Prints cost practically nothing to make and they're potentially going to make more from the prints than the originals. Simply amazing. oh he'll "sell out" - all the non prints will sell out = sell out.
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Micallef LA Show..., by bored with screen names on Aug 17, 2007 6:04:32 GMT 1, Well they sent an official email to all the preview invitees regarding the print price so I don't expect any deviation.
Really?
First off I'm on the preview list, and my e-mail had the FIRST price of $1000 where Holly said "Don't quote me on that", then I heard people getting them where she said $2000, and I'm guessing "Don't quote me on that". Are you for certain saying that the latest e-mails said $4000, and that we could quote her on that?
As far as I was aware the prices that have been released have all been from Holly and nothing OFFICIAL, but I could be wrong as I haven't received any e-mails since that initial $1000 e-mail.
Well they sent an official email to all the preview invitees regarding the print price so I don't expect any deviation. Really? First off I'm on the preview list, and my e-mail had the FIRST price of $1000 where Holly said "Don't quote me on that", then I heard people getting them where she said $2000, and I'm guessing "Don't quote me on that". Are you for certain saying that the latest e-mails said $4000, and that we could quote her on that? As far as I was aware the prices that have been released have all been from Holly and nothing OFFICIAL, but I could be wrong as I haven't received any e-mails since that initial $1000 e-mail.
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Photoxtc
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Micallef LA Show..., by Photoxtc on Aug 17, 2007 6:19:12 GMT 1, Well they sent an official email to all the preview invitees regarding the print price so I don't expect any deviation. Really? First off I'm on the preview list, and my e-mail had the FIRST price of $1000 where Holly said "Don't quote me on that", then I heard people getting them where she said $2000, and I'm guessing "Don't quote me on that". Are you for certain saying that the latest e-mails said $4000, and that we could quote her on that? As far as I was aware the prices that have been released have all been from Holly and nothing OFFICIAL, but I could be wrong as I haven't received any e-mails since that initial $1000 e-mail.
I got the same email as you mate... who knows where these other prices are coming from and really who cares about all this speculation??? we will soon find out though, won't we....
Well they sent an official email to all the preview invitees regarding the print price so I don't expect any deviation. Really? First off I'm on the preview list, and my e-mail had the FIRST price of $1000 where Holly said "Don't quote me on that", then I heard people getting them where she said $2000, and I'm guessing "Don't quote me on that". Are you for certain saying that the latest e-mails said $4000, and that we could quote her on that? As far as I was aware the prices that have been released have all been from Holly and nothing OFFICIAL, but I could be wrong as I haven't received any e-mails since that initial $1000 e-mail. I got the same email as you mate... who knows where these other prices are coming from and really who cares about all this speculation??? we will soon find out though, won't we....
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Micallef LA Show..., by bobbymeachamjr on Aug 17, 2007 6:34:49 GMT 1, if you want to call a direct quote from her dated less than 10 days ago as speculation then so be it.
"... In addition there will be 4 lithographic prints each with an edition of 400 per image at around ยฃ2000 each - none of these prices are determined but just intended to give you a rough ball park price range before you arrange your trip"
if you want to call a direct quote from her dated less than 10 days ago as speculation then so be it.
"... In addition there will be 4 lithographic prints each with an edition of 400 per image at around ยฃ2000 each - none of these prices are determined but just intended to give you a rough ball park price range before you arrange your trip"
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Photoxtc
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Micallef LA Show..., by Photoxtc on Aug 17, 2007 7:03:00 GMT 1, well if that's the case then we will all be shelling out lots of cash for prints...
well if that's the case then we will all be shelling out lots of cash for prints...
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Micallef LA Show..., by policeaware on Aug 17, 2007 7:58:09 GMT 1, This debate fascinates me, no one has any idea how big the run is, what the image is or even what the price is. Various people are quoting either hearsay or private emails, which correct me if I'm wrong, will have had a disclaimer at the bottom regarding publicising them.
Why not just stop all the speculation now.
My mums neighbours sons freinds mate told him that there are 12,000 of each, they're photocopied prints and they will be ยฃ3,900 each unsigned.
This debate fascinates me, no one has any idea how big the run is, what the image is or even what the price is. Various people are quoting either hearsay or private emails, which correct me if I'm wrong, will have had a disclaimer at the bottom regarding publicising them.
Why not just stop all the speculation now.
My mums neighbours sons freinds mate told him that there are 12,000 of each, they're photocopied prints and they will be ยฃ3,900 each unsigned.
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Photoxtc
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Micallef LA Show..., by Photoxtc on Aug 17, 2007 8:12:38 GMT 1, well said policeaware... we will all find out soon enough and no more stupid debate on pricing!!! I have heard soooo many different prices I can't even keep up or care anymore!!!
well said policeaware... we will all find out soon enough and no more stupid debate on pricing!!! I have heard soooo many different prices I can't even keep up or care anymore!!!
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andrewd
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Micallef LA Show..., by andrewd on Aug 17, 2007 8:13:35 GMT 1, This debate fascinates me, no one has any idea how big the run is, what the image is or even what the price is. Various people are quoting either hearsay or private emails, which correct me if I'm wrong, will have had a disclaimer at the bottom regarding publicising them. Why not just stop all the speculation now. My mums neighbours sons freinds mate told him that there are 12,000 of each, they're photocopied prints and they will be ยฃ3,900 each unsigned.
LOL ;D
This debate fascinates me, no one has any idea how big the run is, what the image is or even what the price is. Various people are quoting either hearsay or private emails, which correct me if I'm wrong, will have had a disclaimer at the bottom regarding publicising them. Why not just stop all the speculation now. My mums neighbours sons freinds mate told him that there are 12,000 of each, they're photocopied prints and they will be ยฃ3,900 each unsigned. LOL ;D
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Micallef LA Show..., by atkuefler on Aug 17, 2007 13:43:50 GMT 1, I am going to stop thinking about this now! See you all at the show!
I am going to stop thinking about this now! See you all at the show!
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BONGO
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Micallef LA Show..., by BONGO on Aug 17, 2007 13:53:26 GMT 1, BONGO THINK THIS MICALLEF BUBBLE IS ABOUT TO BURST
SILLY MONEY FOR A SCRUFFY BIT OF WORK ?
BONGO THINK THIS MICALLEF BUBBLE IS ABOUT TO BURST
SILLY MONEY FOR A SCRUFFY BIT OF WORK ?
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Micallef LA Show..., by dave313perry on Aug 17, 2007 14:01:02 GMT 1, BONGO THINK THIS MICALLEF BUBBLE IS ABOUT TO BURST SILLY MONEY FOR A SCRUFFY BIT OF WORK ?
Bongo wrong about scruffy bit of work! work very nice and Bongo needs a new caps-lock button
BONGO THINK THIS MICALLEF BUBBLE IS ABOUT TO BURST SILLY MONEY FOR A SCRUFFY BIT OF WORK ? Bongo wrong about scruffy bit of work! work very nice and Bongo needs a new caps-lock button
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Micallef LA Show..., by bored with screen names on Aug 17, 2007 14:12:01 GMT 1, if you want to call a direct quote from her dated less than 10 days ago as speculation then so be it. "... In addition there will be 4 lithographic prints each with an edition of 400 per image at around ยฃ2000 each - none of these prices are determined but just intended to give you a rough ball park price range before you arrange your trip"
I would call it speculation because, as Holly says "NONE OF THESE PRICES ARE DETERMINED" Certainly doesn't sound like a cold hard fact.
if you want to call a direct quote from her dated less than 10 days ago as speculation then so be it. "... In addition there will be 4 lithographic prints each with an edition of 400 per image at around ยฃ2000 each - none of these prices are determined but just intended to give you a rough ball park price range before you arrange your trip" I would call it speculation because, as Holly says "NONE OF THESE PRICES ARE DETERMINED" Certainly doesn't sound like a cold hard fact.
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stylus
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Micallef LA Show..., by stylus on Aug 17, 2007 14:26:55 GMT 1, What are peoples' thoughts on the print medium itself? In other words, is the material cost and labour required to do a lithogrphic print run (no offset litho jokes!) less that/equal to/greater than/far greater than that of an equivalent screen print run?
What are peoples' thoughts on the print medium itself? In other words, is the material cost and labour required to do a lithogrphic print run (no offset litho jokes!) less that/equal to/greater than/far greater than that of an equivalent screen print run?
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Micallef LA Show..., by dave313perry on Aug 17, 2007 14:30:00 GMT 1, What are peoples' thoughts on the print medium itself? In other words, is the material cost and labour required to do a lithogrphic print run (no offset litho jokes!) less that/equal to/greater than/far greater than that of an equivalent screen print run?
Far less than to my knowledge but Litho's not my area, i may be corrected!
What are peoples' thoughts on the print medium itself? In other words, is the material cost and labour required to do a lithogrphic print run (no offset litho jokes!) less that/equal to/greater than/far greater than that of an equivalent screen print run? Far less than to my knowledge but Litho's not my area, i may be corrected!
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matbat
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Micallef LA Show..., by matbat on Aug 17, 2007 14:33:06 GMT 1, get a high price floating around the forum then when they drop for less everyone thinks they go a bargain.
Nice marketing.
get a high price floating around the forum then when they drop for less everyone thinks they go a bargain.
Nice marketing.
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pezlow
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Micallef LA Show..., by pezlow on Aug 17, 2007 14:38:32 GMT 1, I'm just so glad that I am not going to this show, am not worrying about the cost of prints and frankly could take or leave micallef's work and the hype that surrounds it. Don't get me wrong I quite like some of his stuff but, frankly, this is all a bit ridiculous.
9 pages of thread which is nothing more than speculation, people worrying about whether or not they are going to get a print which they haven't even seen the image of. Talking of spending the cost of a small secondhand family car for a lithograph.
My advice to anyone thinking of going to LA is this:
1) Don't use a credit card or other loan to book your flights or buy your prints. If you don't have the money then don't go. 2) if you have the money. Take it out of your savings or whatever. Take it out in cash. Look at all that money. Count it. Then ask yourself WHEN YOU ARRIVE AT THE SHOW AND HAVE SEEN THE PRINT - is this print worth all this money? 3) If you can answer yes to that question then buy it, frame it, put it on your wall and enjoy it. You will have deserved it.
I'm just so glad that I am not going to this show, am not worrying about the cost of prints and frankly could take or leave micallef's work and the hype that surrounds it. Don't get me wrong I quite like some of his stuff but, frankly, this is all a bit ridiculous.
9 pages of thread which is nothing more than speculation, people worrying about whether or not they are going to get a print which they haven't even seen the image of. Talking of spending the cost of a small secondhand family car for a lithograph.
My advice to anyone thinking of going to LA is this:
1) Don't use a credit card or other loan to book your flights or buy your prints. If you don't have the money then don't go. 2) if you have the money. Take it out of your savings or whatever. Take it out in cash. Look at all that money. Count it. Then ask yourself WHEN YOU ARRIVE AT THE SHOW AND HAVE SEEN THE PRINT - is this print worth all this money? 3) If you can answer yes to that question then buy it, frame it, put it on your wall and enjoy it. You will have deserved it.
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Strange Al
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Micallef LA Show..., by Strange Al on Aug 17, 2007 14:40:04 GMT 1, What are peoples' thoughts on the print medium itself? In other words, is the material cost and labour required to do a lithogrphic print run (no offset litho jokes!) less that/equal to/greater than/far greater than that of an equivalent screen print run?
If you're talking about a fairly large edition of a complex multi-colour image, Lithos are going to be considerably cheaper to produce than Screenprints. Most of this difference will be down to labour costs.
What are peoples' thoughts on the print medium itself? In other words, is the material cost and labour required to do a lithogrphic print run (no offset litho jokes!) less that/equal to/greater than/far greater than that of an equivalent screen print run? If you're talking about a fairly large edition of a complex multi-colour image, Lithos are going to be considerably cheaper to produce than Screenprints. Most of this difference will be down to labour costs.
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