Billy Sport
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February 2008
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by Billy Sport on Oct 2, 2008 0:06:52 GMT 1, 
so let me get this right, because 3 or 4 (or 7) websites had a quote from an unnamed source, its gotta be right? well, at least 4 people here have called you a cock so i guess....
so let me get this right, because 3 or 4 (or 7) websites had a quote from an unnamed source, its gotta be right? well, at least 4 people here have called you a cock so i guess.... |
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by burroughsart on Oct 2, 2008 6:52:36 GMT 1, Yesterday aginghippy thought;
"The bottom line is that you bought a work from someone without verifying the the artist had or would authenticate it, this is insane. Now it turns out you cannot sell it for what you had hoped (which is not the same as it being valueless) and you are blaming the artist because you ignored the rules?"
However,
Nobody is blaming the artist....nobody has bought 'Fungle Junk', including me....
But it will be sold....despite the "RULES" since it's provenance is irrefutable.
Yesterday aginghippy thought;
"The bottom line is that you bought a work from someone without verifying the the artist had or would authenticate it, this is insane. Now it turns out you cannot sell it for what you had hoped (which is not the same as it being valueless) and you are blaming the artist because you ignored the rules?"
However,
Nobody is blaming the artist....nobody has bought 'Fungle Junk', including me....
But it will be sold....despite the "RULES" since it's provenance is irrefutable.
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aginghippie
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by aginghippie on Oct 2, 2008 14:03:11 GMT 1, Yesterday aginghippy thought;
So what is your issue? You are agreeing that Banksy isn't bound to authenticate anything if he doesn't consider it part of his body of work, and I said in the post you replied to that it would be sold.
As to the "RULES" (love the way you capitalized that btw  ); they don't say it's unsaleable as people will buy anything if the price is low enough, but rather that an unauthenticated piece will sell for a fraction of an authenticated piece. Want an example? Look at the Francis Bacon salvage auction portrait, it sold for a fraction of what it would have fetched as an authenticated work even though the provenance was solid.
Yesterday aginghippy thought; ...and still does thanks ;D So what is your issue? You are agreeing that Banksy isn't bound to authenticate anything if he doesn't consider it part of his body of work, and I said in the post you replied to that it would be sold. As to the "RULES" (love the way you capitalized that btw ); they don't say it's unsaleable as people will buy anything if the price is low enough, but rather that an unauthenticated piece will sell for a fraction of an authenticated piece. Want an example? Look at the Francis Bacon salvage auction portrait, it sold for a fraction of what it would have fetched as an authenticated work even though the provenance was solid. |
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by snausages on Oct 2, 2008 16:09:22 GMT 1, so let me get this right, because 3 or 4 (or 7) websites had a quote from an unnamed source, its gotta be right? well, at least 4 people here have called you a cock so i guess....
Am I the only sane person here?
Ok, so the guy asked for a source for my information I have 7 websites that confirm what I said. Somehow it makes me a c**t because I provided evidence to support what I said?  ...Now, no one can provide any information that refutes this or any statements where this was withdrawn but they can provide opinion that the 7 websites that have this statement are amateurish? Uh ok. Believe what you want, it doesn't matter to me but if you all are that concerned why don't you send PC an email and ask them to verify the statement?
And billysport I'm touched you made me my own comic. ...but tell me when exactly I said or implied that my way is the right way? In fact I said there is "no way to tell for sure" exactly what role every little bit played to cause this disaster. To blame it one thing is like blaming the great depression on a single cause. Obviously numerous factors played a significant part in that calamity as well, some more than others but to quantify exactly what was the cause and to what percentage each cause factored into the equation is opinion, not science. That's all I said. So sue me.
My way or the only way? Pfft, sound like the one with control issues about getting her way. Sounds like a lovely person.
so let me get this right, because 3 or 4 (or 7) websites had a quote from an unnamed source, its gotta be right? well, at least 4 people here have called you a cock so i guess.... Am I the only sane person here? Ok, so the guy asked for a source for my information I have 7 websites that confirm what I said. Somehow it makes me a c**t because I provided evidence to support what I said? ...Now, no one can provide any information that refutes this or any statements where this was withdrawn but they can provide opinion that the 7 websites that have this statement are amateurish? Uh ok. Believe what you want, it doesn't matter to me but if you all are that concerned why don't you send PC an email and ask them to verify the statement? And billysport I'm touched you made me my own comic. ...but tell me when exactly I said or implied that my way is the right way? In fact I said there is "no way to tell for sure" exactly what role every little bit played to cause this disaster. To blame it one thing is like blaming the great depression on a single cause. Obviously numerous factors played a significant part in that calamity as well, some more than others but to quantify exactly what was the cause and to what percentage each cause factored into the equation is opinion, not science. That's all I said. So sue me. My way or the only way? Pfft, sound like the one with control issues about getting her way. Sounds like a lovely person. |
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by alsbabar on Oct 2, 2008 16:36:40 GMT 1, oi f**kface aka snausages - 65% of all pieces sold today at Sothebys - which adds more weight to pffffffts claim that 35% is the usual number for unsold items, unlike L&T which was 80%, so its nothing really to do with market conditions, its official, L&T was a s**te auction - now f**king cough up you boring t**t, ยฃ500 to savile and ยฃ500 to pfffft - and when you have, f**k off to which ever boring little world you came from, you............
oi f**kface aka snausages - 65% of all pieces sold today at Sothebys - which adds more weight to pffffffts claim that 35% is the usual number for unsold items, unlike L&T which was 80%, so its nothing really to do with market conditions, its official, L&T was a s**te auction - now f**king cough up you boring t**t, ยฃ500 to savile and ยฃ500 to pfffft - and when you have, f**k off to which ever boring little world you came from, you............ |
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by snausages on Oct 2, 2008 16:42:41 GMT 1, sounds like some people still have anger management issues.
Here's something funny to lighten the situation 
sounds like some people still have anger management issues. Here's something funny to lighten the situation |
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by alsbabar on Oct 2, 2008 16:44:51 GMT 1, you paying up will lighten the situation!!!
you paying up will lighten the situation!!!
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funyoung
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February 2008
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by funyoung on Oct 2, 2008 17:56:56 GMT 1, I really want to get as wound up as you lot are but am finding it difficult. Do you deprive yourselves of sleep, get really hungry, throw your toys out of the pram, and then come on here? I just feel that I'm missing something by being unable to get so worked up. Please help.
I really want to get as wound up as you lot are but am finding it difficult. Do you deprive yourselves of sleep, get really hungry, throw your toys out of the pram, and then come on here? I just feel that I'm missing something by being unable to get so worked up. Please help.
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Banksy's artworks fail to shift , by burroughsart on Oct 3, 2008 9:55:19 GMT 1, Yesterday aginghippy kindly responded with;
"So what is your issue? You are agreeing that Banksy isn't bound to authenticate anything if he doesn't consider it part of his body of work"
For your information;
Whether Banksy or PC authenticate 'Fungle Junk' is not the issue....
It is an original Banksy and therefore part of his body of work whether he , (or you) , likes it or not. Just as 'Silent Majoritie' is part an original Banksy and part original Inkie. Banksy will not authenticate it , Inkie has by email.
Yesterday aginghippy kindly responded with;
"So what is your issue? You are agreeing that Banksy isn't bound to authenticate anything if he doesn't consider it part of his body of work"
For your information;
Whether Banksy or PC authenticate 'Fungle Junk' is not the issue....
It is an original Banksy and therefore part of his body of work whether he , (or you) , likes it or not. Just as 'Silent Majoritie' is part an original Banksy and part original Inkie. Banksy will not authenticate it , Inkie has by email.
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); they don't say it's unsaleable as people will buy anything if the price is low enough, but rather that an unauthenticated piece will sell for a fraction of an authenticated piece. Want an example? Look at the Francis Bacon salvage auction portrait, it sold for a fraction of what it would have fetched as an authenticated work even though the provenance was solid.
...Now, no one can provide any information that refutes this or any statements where this was withdrawn but they can provide opinion that the 7 websites that have this statement are amateurish? Uh ok. Believe what you want, it doesn't matter to me but if you all are that concerned why don't you send PC an email and ask them to verify the statement?
