sterlzuk
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Original Banksy Rat, by sterlzuk on Oct 30, 2007 14:13:58 GMT 1, My mate cut this out of a shoreditch fence many moons ago... 
What d'ya reckon it's worth??
My mate cut this out of a shoreditch fence many moons ago... What d'ya reckon it's worth?? |
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Original Banksy Rat, by Daniel Silk on Oct 30, 2007 14:15:30 GMT 1, A lot! 
A lot! |
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Original Banksy Rat, by dave313perry on Oct 30, 2007 14:22:12 GMT 1, depends on so many things - from 1k on ebay to 50k at Sotheby's IMO
its all about the history, provenance and how well documented they are
depends on so many things - from 1k on ebay to 50k at Sotheby's IMO
its all about the history, provenance and how well documented they are
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Original Banksy Rat, by corblimeylimey on Oct 30, 2007 14:23:45 GMT 1, Any photo's of it in situ/context
Any photo's of it in situ/context
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sterlzuk
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Original Banksy Rat, by sterlzuk on Oct 30, 2007 14:27:29 GMT 1, Any photo's of it in situ/context
Unfortunately not - quick job with a saw so they had to get out of there fast 
Any photo's of it in situ/context Unfortunately not - quick job with a saw so they had to get out of there fast |
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Original Banksy Rat, by cashman on Oct 30, 2007 14:29:21 GMT 1, thats gotta be a no sale, unless you have amazing prov its worth nothing. Id keep it
thats gotta be a no sale, unless you have amazing prov its worth nothing. Id keep it
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Original Banksy Rat, by becksaboo on Oct 30, 2007 14:35:06 GMT 1, should have been left where it was....
should have been left where it was....
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Original Banksy Rat, by cashman on Oct 30, 2007 14:42:08 GMT 1, should have been left where it was....
Amen
should have been left where it was.... Amen |
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Original Banksy Rat, by klyde on Oct 30, 2007 14:46:26 GMT 1, I'll start the bidding at fuck all.
I'll start the bidding at fuck all.
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Original Banksy Rat, by cashman on Oct 30, 2007 14:47:58 GMT 1, I'll start the bidding at f**k all.
Im afraid youv done me...... im out
I'll start the bidding at f**k all. Im afraid youv done me...... im out |
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Original Banksy Rat, by solar77 on Oct 30, 2007 14:51:59 GMT 1, Sometimes I agree with the "it should have been left there" mentality, but on the other hand, this piece probably wouldn't exist or it would have faded away by now otherwise.
That does look very legit, by the way.
Sometimes I agree with the "it should have been left there" mentality, but on the other hand, this piece probably wouldn't exist or it would have faded away by now otherwise.
That does look very legit, by the way.
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Original Banksy Rat, by James Smith 77 on Oct 30, 2007 15:00:15 GMT 1, Very nice! 
Very nice! |
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Original Banksy Rat, by Jef Aerosol on Oct 30, 2007 15:08:09 GMT 1, It definitely should have been left there ! A while ago, I installed some fake streetsigns in my city and they very soon went away in spite of how carefully I had fixed them to the posts. Some time later, i met a guy who told me a friend of his had taken one and now has it on his wall at home. He took it on the very day I had put it up ! For me, this guy doesn't like street art ! When you like street art, you leave it on the street ! And if you want some for you to hang on your wall, you get in touch with the artist, or you buy originals in the galleries, or you buy prints, or you just take nice photos and print them if you want. If that guy had got in touch with me, i could have painted a sign post for him. And if he had no money, i could have tried to adapt to his budget. I have even given stuff more than once to penniless street art lovers... If having something on you wall only because it's WORTH something is your point, then you're more of a money lover than an art lover ! Especially when it is Street Art...
It definitely should have been left there ! A while ago, I installed some fake streetsigns in my city and they very soon went away in spite of how carefully I had fixed them to the posts. Some time later, i met a guy who told me a friend of his had taken one and now has it on his wall at home. He took it on the very day I had put it up ! For me, this guy doesn't like street art ! When you like street art, you leave it on the street ! And if you want some for you to hang on your wall, you get in touch with the artist, or you buy originals in the galleries, or you buy prints, or you just take nice photos and print them if you want. If that guy had got in touch with me, i could have painted a sign post for him. And if he had no money, i could have tried to adapt to his budget. I have even given stuff more than once to penniless street art lovers... If having something on you wall only because it's WORTH something is your point, then you're more of a money lover than an art lover ! Especially when it is Street Art...
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Original Banksy Rat, by keepingitreal on Oct 30, 2007 15:09:27 GMT 1, In past history of Banksy street pieces, if the image of the piece was printed in one of his books it's worth a whole lot more.
That being said the piece should have stayed on the street, where it belongs.
Good luck!
In past history of Banksy street pieces, if the image of the piece was printed in one of his books it's worth a whole lot more.
That being said the piece should have stayed on the street, where it belongs.
Good luck!
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Original Banksy Rat, by jonpud on Oct 30, 2007 15:36:49 GMT 1, This debate will go on for ever!! But street art is for the street, full stop.
The only exception to this would be the likes of Neate who deliberately leaves his street pieces for anyone to take!! I love that idea, and have TOTAL respect for him doing it, just a shame that it rarely goes to the right people!!
Jef - love your comment regarding working to someone's budget who has no money!!!!! ;D (We know what you meant mate!!!!! )
This debate will go on for ever!! But street art is for the street, full stop. The only exception to this would be the likes of Neate who deliberately leaves his street pieces for anyone to take!! I love that idea, and have TOTAL respect for him doing it, just a shame that it rarely goes to the right people!! Jef - love your comment regarding working to someone's budget who has no money!!!!! ;D (We know what you meant mate!!!!! ) |
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sterlzuk
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Original Banksy Rat, by sterlzuk on Oct 30, 2007 15:37:16 GMT 1, should have been left where it was....
Yeah but it was boards on a building site... so leave it so the builders could rip it down and chuck it with all the other boards? This was before the media interest in Banksy as well so they wouldn't have known. Better that someone has it who followed him from an early stage and can appreciate it than be thrown away? Why the negging guys? I wanted to share something with forum!  Don't want to have to think about sharing stuff in case I get negged! 
should have been left where it was.... Yeah but it was boards on a building site... so leave it so the builders could rip it down and chuck it with all the other boards? This was before the media interest in Banksy as well so they wouldn't have known. Better that someone has it who followed him from an early stage and can appreciate it than be thrown away? Why the negging guys? I wanted to share something with forum! Don't want to have to think about sharing stuff in case I get negged! |
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Original Banksy Rat, by solar77 on Oct 30, 2007 15:40:37 GMT 1, Got one back from me. Thanks for sharing the rat!
Got one back from me. Thanks for sharing the rat!
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sterlzuk
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Original Banksy Rat, by sterlzuk on Oct 30, 2007 15:41:51 GMT 1, Got one back from me. Thanks for sharing the rat!
Thanks Solar, nice one 
Got one back from me. Thanks for sharing the rat! Thanks Solar, nice one |
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Original Banksy Rat, by fallenangel on Oct 30, 2007 15:43:33 GMT 1, well done to your mate sterlzuk for having the balls to just cut it out ... good on him, i'm sure we all would have done the same if we saw it.
here here - i hope he sells it, makes a nice few quid and blows it on having a bloody good time.
well done to your mate sterlzuk for having the balls to just cut it out ... good on him, i'm sure we all would have done the same if we saw it.
here here - i hope he sells it, makes a nice few quid and blows it on having a bloody good time.
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Original Banksy Rat, by arcam on Oct 30, 2007 15:44:52 GMT 1, but the problem is that this piece would never still be on the street anyway  A gallery would have come along and nicked it, and then be selling it for ยฃ50,000+  .
Two wrongs don't make a right Silky.
but the problem is that this piece would never still be on the street anyway A gallery would have come along and nicked it, and then be selling it for ยฃ50,000+ . Two wrongs don't make a right Silky. |
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Original Banksy Rat, by Daniel Silk on Oct 30, 2007 15:46:17 GMT 1, but the problem is that this piece would never still be on the street anyway A gallery would have come along and nicked it, and then be selling it for ยฃ50,000+ . Two wrongs don't make a right Silky.
But when all outcomes are wrong whats best?
but the problem is that this piece would never still be on the street anyway A gallery would have come along and nicked it, and then be selling it for ยฃ50,000+ . Two wrongs don't make a right Silky. But when all outcomes are wrong whats best? |
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Original Banksy Rat, by arcam on Oct 30, 2007 15:50:05 GMT 1, Yeah but it was boards on a building site... so leave it so the builders could rip it down and chuck it with all the other boards?
It lives on the street, it should die on the street, that's my thinking anyway.
Yeah but it was boards on a building site... so leave it so the builders could rip it down and chuck it with all the other boards? It lives on the street, it should die on the street, that's my thinking anyway. |
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Original Banksy Rat, by jonpud on Oct 30, 2007 15:53:30 GMT 1, Yeah but it was boards on a building site... so leave it so the builders could rip it down and chuck it with all the other boards? It lives on the street, it should die on the street, that's my thinking anyway.
" I see trees of green, red roses too...................and I think to myself, what a wonderful world"
Yeah but it was boards on a building site... so leave it so the builders could rip it down and chuck it with all the other boards? It lives on the street, it should die on the street, that's my thinking anyway. " I see trees of green, red roses too...................and I think to myself, what a wonderful world" |
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Original Banksy Rat, by jonpud on Oct 30, 2007 15:55:25 GMT 1, My mate cut this out of a shoreditch fence many moons ago... What d'ya reckon it's worth??
Sterlzuk, it should stay on the street mate!.............How much do you want for it?
My mate cut this out of a shoreditch fence many moons ago... What d'ya reckon it's worth?? Sterlzuk, it should stay on the street mate!.............How much do you want for it? |
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Original Banksy Rat, by Daniel Silk on Oct 30, 2007 16:00:35 GMT 1, Ok, lets all think about what realistic options a pieces has like this ;D
1. Gets destroyed by the builders when work starts on site.
2. Gets taken by a Banksy fan, and is treasured by them forever.
3. Gets taken and then sold on ebay.
4. Taken by a gallery or auction house and then sold.
Ok, lets all think about what realistic options a pieces has like this ;D
1. Gets destroyed by the builders when work starts on site.
2. Gets taken by a Banksy fan, and is treasured by them forever.
3. Gets taken and then sold on ebay.
4. Taken by a gallery or auction house and then sold.
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Original Banksy Rat, by arcam on Oct 30, 2007 16:04:51 GMT 1, Building work can last for months, years even. Say it was removed by a fan who'd cherish it for years, he'd be denying many more fans of seeing it on the street.
Building work can last for months, years even. Say it was removed by a fan who'd cherish it for years, he'd be denying many more fans of seeing it on the street.
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Original Banksy Rat, by jonpud on Oct 30, 2007 16:08:33 GMT 1, 2 All the way, It's just jealousy, should not really be asking how much this is worth, if I owned it, it would be priceless, if a flipper type person owned it then it wouldn't be priceless, simple as that!!
Banksy, hope you tune in mate!! Keep your art to brick walls me old mate!!
Can't blame anyone taking something from builders fence, would end up destroyed anyway.
Annoying thing is I own a building company and Banksy aught to get his arse down here and spray every bloody one of my hoardings!!!!!!!!! ;D
2 All the way, It's just jealousy, should not really be asking how much this is worth, if I owned it, it would be priceless, if a flipper type person owned it then it wouldn't be priceless, simple as that!!
Banksy, hope you tune in mate!! Keep your art to brick walls me old mate!!
Can't blame anyone taking something from builders fence, would end up destroyed anyway.
Annoying thing is I own a building company and Banksy aught to get his arse down here and spray every bloody one of my hoardings!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Original Banksy Rat, by lesbianwednesdays on Oct 30, 2007 16:15:26 GMT 1, street art is like life silky, it has a finite period of time in which to make the most of it's self. after which it ceases to exist outside of the memories of those left behind and in images recorded during it's life.
ashes to ashes, dust to dust and all that. jef, spot on geezer. the truth well said mate.
if the artist put it on something that had a very real prospect of living a short life then that is their prerogative, we should have the scruples to respect that.
make the most of it while it's there, like life.
street art is like life silky, it has a finite period of time in which to make the most of it's self. after which it ceases to exist outside of the memories of those left behind and in images recorded during it's life. ashes to ashes, dust to dust and all that. jef, spot on geezer. the truth well said mate. if the artist put it on something that had a very real prospect of living a short life then that is their prerogative, we should have the scruples to respect that. make the most of it while it's there, like life. |
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Original Banksy Rat, by klyde on Oct 30, 2007 16:18:52 GMT 1,
Its a bit of wood with some faded spray paint on it.
Get over it.
If he didnt take it and post it here many would have never seen it.
Its a bit of wood with some faded spray paint on it.
Get over it.
If he didnt take it and post it here many would have never seen it.
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Don't want to have to think about sharing stuff in case I get negged! 
but the problem is that this piece would never still be on the street anyway 
A gallery would have come along and nicked it, and then be selling it for ยฃ50,000+ 
