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UK General Election 2010, by woodsman on Jan 4, 2010 17:36:08 GMT 1, i know the result is going to deeply upset me.......
i know the result is going to deeply upset me.......
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UK General Election 2010, by simonf on Jan 4, 2010 17:37:03 GMT 1, This subject is very touchy and could cause offense and im not saying one more bit, im sure you understand my view on the whole thing and who's in power. but one last point, imagine blair was his own man (not a young boy craving for his dads attention (bush) and we didn't go to war. 1) we wouldn't have the 200 odd deaths and secondly look how much we would have saved.
I think we all agree on that one!
This subject is very touchy and could cause offense and im not saying one more bit, im sure you understand my view on the whole thing and who's in power. but one last point, imagine blair was his own man (not a young boy craving for his dads attention (bush) and we didn't go to war. 1) we wouldn't have the 200 odd deaths and secondly look how much we would have saved. I think we all agree on that one! |
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UK General Election 2010, by nex on Jan 4, 2010 17:37:08 GMT 1, Wow!! a lot of young tories in here!! Banksy'd be proud!! EAT THE RICH!!!
look around fella this place is alot of things, but it aint a Banksy forum
Wow!! a lot of young tories in here!! Banksy'd be proud!! EAT THE RICH!!! look around fella this place is alot of things, but it aint a Banksy forum |
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UK General Election 2010, by manchestermike on Jan 4, 2010 17:37:33 GMT 1, why is it the wealthy are devoid of a social conscience ?
Expand on the sweeping generalisation
why is it the wealthy are devoid of a social conscience ? Expand on the sweeping generalisation |
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UK General Election 2010, by woodsman on Jan 4, 2010 17:41:57 GMT 1, This subject is very touchy and could cause offense and im not saying one more bit, im sure you understand my view on the whole thing and who's in power. but one last point, imagine blair was his own man (not a young boy craving for his dads attention (bush) and we didn't go to war. 1) we wouldn't have the 200 odd deaths and secondly look how much we would have saved. I think we all agree on that one!
So tell me Thatcher wasnt sucking Regans cock at any point? We have never been the lapdogs of the Yanks under the Tories? In fact i'm not reading this s**te anymore....i knew it would annoy me.
This subject is very touchy and could cause offense and im not saying one more bit, im sure you understand my view on the whole thing and who's in power. but one last point, imagine blair was his own man (not a young boy craving for his dads attention (bush) and we didn't go to war. 1) we wouldn't have the 200 odd deaths and secondly look how much we would have saved. I think we all agree on that one! So tell me Thatcher wasnt sucking Regans cock at any point? We have never been the lapdogs of the Yanks under the Tories? In fact i'm not reading this s**te anymore....i knew it would annoy me. |
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UK General Election 2010, by bubbleandsqueak on Jan 4, 2010 17:42:29 GMT 1, Wow!! a lot of young tories in here!! Banksy'd be proud!! EAT THE RICH!!! look around fella this place is alot of things, but it aint a Banksy forum
HEHE
There is a few i would like to say TRADERS on this forum.
Some of which are doing what bear sterns, lehman brothers did "LEVERAGING THERE CREDIT CARDS"
SPECULATING ON BANKSY'S (Small money compared to what is played on the markets) but it's the same principle
Wow!! a lot of young tories in here!! Banksy'd be proud!! EAT THE RICH!!! look around fella this place is alot of things, but it aint a Banksy forum HEHE There is a few i would like to say TRADERS on this forum. Some of which are doing what bear sterns, lehman brothers did "LEVERAGING THERE CREDIT CARDS" SPECULATING ON BANKSY'S (Small money compared to what is played on the markets) but it's the same principle |
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UK General Election 2010, by bazzj04 on Jan 4, 2010 17:44:47 GMT 1, That family angers me sooo much , and the thing is the govenrment are to blame to allow this to continue , this really needs to be stopped, If you cannot afford to have Children you shouldnot be allowed them .how i dont know , save us all allot more in Job seekers allowence , Out of work benfit , Families like this sadly seem to breed future familes like this,not all but there is a cycle Which in terms for the Country is very scary thought , If this does keep on in a vicous cirlce then it will end up with vast amounts of people claiming and not even thinking about working,
If you are on benifits, for job allownece etc etc, Then this may sound harsh , but 9-5 everyday the government own you to do with you as they please, then you get your benifits, There are plenty of places that could benfit from extra workers without taking jopbs from the already employed,. just add more people and improve areas , even if this means making them cleaner tidy , lick of paint , not essential things i know , but iit means that at least we are getting something out of them. And if they dont like it get a job and do as they please, The thing is at the momment , its very easy to stay on benfits because most the people looking for jobs of this sort have no reall education, drive or goals, but if regaurdless of claiming they will be made to work then i really think this could spur on at least a few good ones caught up in this mess ,THe Jobs that they are likly to start with are going to be relaitvly low paid , and this means no insentive to get off benifits. Why work when you can get basically the same money and play Psp all day, I bet you most of these types have comouters and all things like this ? an essential ha .
That family angers me sooo much , and the thing is the govenrment are to blame to allow this to continue , this really needs to be stopped, If you cannot afford to have Children you shouldnot be allowed them .how i dont know , save us all allot more in Job seekers allowence , Out of work benfit , Families like this sadly seem to breed future familes like this,not all but there is a cycle Which in terms for the Country is very scary thought , If this does keep on in a vicous cirlce then it will end up with vast amounts of people claiming and not even thinking about working,
If you are on benifits, for job allownece etc etc, Then this may sound harsh , but 9-5 everyday the government own you to do with you as they please, then you get your benifits, There are plenty of places that could benfit from extra workers without taking jopbs from the already employed,. just add more people and improve areas , even if this means making them cleaner tidy , lick of paint , not essential things i know , but iit means that at least we are getting something out of them. And if they dont like it get a job and do as they please, The thing is at the momment , its very easy to stay on benfits because most the people looking for jobs of this sort have no reall education, drive or goals, but if regaurdless of claiming they will be made to work then i really think this could spur on at least a few good ones caught up in this mess ,THe Jobs that they are likly to start with are going to be relaitvly low paid , and this means no insentive to get off benifits. Why work when you can get basically the same money and play Psp all day, I bet you most of these types have comouters and all things like this ? an essential ha .
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UK General Election 2010, by nex on Jan 4, 2010 17:50:59 GMT 1, some of things you guys are coming out with, you should really be ashamed of yourselves
I'm out of this thread
some of things you guys are coming out with, you should really be ashamed of yourselves
I'm out of this thread
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UK General Election 2010, by bazzj04 on Jan 4, 2010 17:52:07 GMT 1, Money for nothing and chicks for free
Money for nothing and chicks for free
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UK General Election 2010, by manchestermike on Jan 4, 2010 17:53:09 GMT 1, some of things you guys are coming out with, you should really be ashamed of yourselves I'm out of this thread
Is that to avoid actually explaining that massive generalisation a few posts back?
some of things you guys are coming out with, you should really be ashamed of yourselves I'm out of this thread Is that to avoid actually explaining that massive generalisation a few posts back? |
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UK General Election 2010, by simonf on Jan 4, 2010 17:54:06 GMT 1, I think we all agree on that one! So tell me Thatcher wasnt sucking Regans cock at any point? We have never been the lapdogs of the Yanks under the Tories? In fact i'm not reading this s**te anymore....i knew it would annoy me.
I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it.
You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all.
I think we all agree on that one! So tell me Thatcher wasnt sucking Regans cock at any point? We have never been the lapdogs of the Yanks under the Tories? In fact i'm not reading this s**te anymore....i knew it would annoy me. I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it. You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all. |
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UK General Election 2010, by bazzj04 on Jan 4, 2010 17:54:09 GMT 1, Of course if a few didnt realise i was Joking about a few of my statements , but majority i was seriops injectionsall that crap of course i was joking ,
But most think is valid , as in get them to work for money , surely that the simplest thing to understand , you get paid when you work
Of course if a few didnt realise i was Joking about a few of my statements , but majority i was seriops injectionsall that crap of course i was joking ,
But most think is valid , as in get them to work for money , surely that the simplest thing to understand , you get paid when you work
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UK General Election 2010, by notworthit on Jan 4, 2010 17:55:25 GMT 1, No I imagine it's probably because there are some blinkered people on here with the narrowest of views who take their entire political opinion from the daily mail and who can really be bothered to talk to them!! wake up man.
No I imagine it's probably because there are some blinkered people on here with the narrowest of views who take their entire political opinion from the daily mail and who can really be bothered to talk to them!! wake up man.
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UK General Election 2010, by simonf on Jan 4, 2010 17:55:30 GMT 1, ... I think disagreement was inevitable when this thread was started to be honest...
... I think disagreement was inevitable when this thread was started to be honest...
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UK General Election 2010, by grafik on Jan 4, 2010 17:56:42 GMT 1, i think yeh you should be put to work but free money is a joke..
in other countries they will just employ you to pick up litter, open doors, press elevator buttons, garden, clean. whatever.. but as they are paying you they can get you to work
this country is a joke anyway, as soon as i can im out of here..
i think yeh you should be put to work but free money is a joke..
in other countries they will just employ you to pick up litter, open doors, press elevator buttons, garden, clean. whatever.. but as they are paying you they can get you to work
this country is a joke anyway, as soon as i can im out of here..
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UK General Election 2010, by manchestermike on Jan 4, 2010 17:57:41 GMT 1, So tell me Thatcher wasnt sucking Regans cock at any point? We have never been the lapdogs of the Yanks under the Tories? In fact i'm not reading this s**te anymore....i knew it would annoy me. I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it. You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all.
Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip
So tell me Thatcher wasnt sucking Regans cock at any point? We have never been the lapdogs of the Yanks under the Tories? In fact i'm not reading this s**te anymore....i knew it would annoy me. I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it. You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all. Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip |
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UK General Election 2010, by simonf on Jan 4, 2010 17:58:12 GMT 1, I have to say if tax payers money (ie mine) is given to people for free, then asking them to do some work for it (as i have to do) seems a persuasive argument.
although some people because of illness disability or even their religion might find it very hard to get proper work
I have to say if tax payers money (ie mine) is given to people for free, then asking them to do some work for it (as i have to do) seems a persuasive argument.
although some people because of illness disability or even their religion might find it very hard to get proper work
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UK General Election 2010, by manchestermike on Jan 4, 2010 17:59:58 GMT 1, No I imagine it's probably because there are some blinkered people on here with the narrowest of views who take their entire political opinion from the daily mail and who can really be bothered to talk to them!! wake up man.
As there are everywhere - there are also the blinkered people on the other end of the scale. Thankfully the majority of us can have an educated discussion about matters like this, and in educated discussions you can't make sweeping statements without backing them up
No I imagine it's probably because there are some blinkered people on here with the narrowest of views who take their entire political opinion from the daily mail and who can really be bothered to talk to them!! wake up man. As there are everywhere - there are also the blinkered people on the other end of the scale. Thankfully the majority of us can have an educated discussion about matters like this, and in educated discussions you can't make sweeping statements without backing them up |
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UK General Election 2010, by Eton Groover on Jan 4, 2010 18:00:08 GMT 1, i think yeh you should be put to work but free money is a joke.. in other countries they will just employ you to pick up litter, open doors, press elevator buttons, garden, clean. whatever.. but as they are paying you they can get you to work this country is a joke anyway, as soon as i can im out of here..
Where would you go?
i think yeh you should be put to work but free money is a joke.. in other countries they will just employ you to pick up litter, open doors, press elevator buttons, garden, clean. whatever.. but as they are paying you they can get you to work this country is a joke anyway, as soon as i can im out of here.. Where would you go? |
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UK General Election 2010, by simonf on Jan 4, 2010 18:00:19 GMT 1, I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it. You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all. Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip
actually i don't have thatcher on the brain, I was never a fan, I am just entering into a debate
I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it. You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all. Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip actually i don't have thatcher on the brain, I was never a fan, I am just entering into a debate |
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UK General Election 2010, by notworthit on Jan 4, 2010 18:01:28 GMT 1, I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it. You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all. Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip
Do you know anything about politics in this country in the past 30 years, or just what the mail spoonfed you in the past fortnight?
I think she was, no one said she wasn't... we were specifically talking about Iraq, the "wrong war" as Banksy (remember him?) put it. You have introduced another point that is also accurate, I don't see why you have annoyed yourself though. It is a seperate point but equally valid... Its simply that we weren't talking about that point that's all. Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip Do you know anything about politics in this country in the past 30 years, or just what the mail spoonfed you in the past fortnight? |
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UK General Election 2010, by notworthit on Jan 4, 2010 18:04:44 GMT 1, Can't be bothered with this, it's all irrelevant anyway
Can't be bothered with this, it's all irrelevant anyway
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UK General Election 2010, by manchestermike on Jan 4, 2010 18:05:14 GMT 1, Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip Do you know anything about politics in this country in the past 30 years, or just what the mail spoonfed you in the past fortnight?
Funnily enough I do know about politics in this country in the last 30 years - what about politics now? Do you know anything about that or do you just go off what happend 30 years ago?
Also, strangely, I don't read the mail of either daily or sunday varieties. I do read a newspaper - and often two however i make up my own mind about everything, not just politics
Some people (not specifically simonf!) have Thatcher on the brain... she's the root of all evil in the world, she is Osama Bin Laden, she eats babie... wibble, wibble, flip Do you know anything about politics in this country in the past 30 years, or just what the mail spoonfed you in the past fortnight? Funnily enough I do know about politics in this country in the last 30 years - what about politics now? Do you know anything about that or do you just go off what happend 30 years ago? Also, strangely, I don't read the mail of either daily or sunday varieties. I do read a newspaper - and often two however i make up my own mind about everything, not just politics |
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UK General Election 2010, by simonf on Jan 4, 2010 18:05:52 GMT 1, Can't be bothered with this, it's all irrelevant anyway
I agree with that as well!... we appear to be reaching a consensus... how unexpected!
Can't be bothered with this, it's all irrelevant anyway I agree with that as well!... we appear to be reaching a consensus... how unexpected! |
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UK General Election 2010, by bazzj04 on Jan 4, 2010 18:09:03 GMT 1, I have to say if tax payers money (ie mine) is given to people for free, then asking them to do some work for it (as i have to do) seems a persuasive argument. although some people because of illness disability or even their religion might find it very hard to get proper work
Agree there would be different circumstances, and these would have to be addressed individually, as is down now with people claiming for disablities etc etc, so there will be people who cant work, But there would be huge numbers im sure who could work.
Can i ask how would Religion affect this?.
I have to say if tax payers money (ie mine) is given to people for free, then asking them to do some work for it (as i have to do) seems a persuasive argument. although some people because of illness disability or even their religion might find it very hard to get proper work Agree there would be different circumstances, and these would have to be addressed individually, as is down now with people claiming for disablities etc etc, so there will be people who cant work, But there would be huge numbers im sure who could work. Can i ask how would Religion affect this?. |
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UK General Election 2010, by manchestermike on Jan 4, 2010 18:09:56 GMT 1, Can't be bothered with this, it's all irrelevant anyway
Yes, totally... it doesn't matter at all who runs this country next, how about we keep Brown in again then the next time an election comes round we have to properly tear the arse out of the country to kick start it (again!)
Can't be bothered with this, it's all irrelevant anyway Yes, totally... it doesn't matter at all who runs this country next, how about we keep Brown in again then the next time an election comes round we have to properly tear the arse out of the country to kick start it (again!) |
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UK General Election 2010, by grafik on Jan 4, 2010 18:10:16 GMT 1, i think yeh you should be put to work but free money is a joke.. in other countries they will just employ you to pick up litter, open doors, press elevator buttons, garden, clean. whatever.. but as they are paying you they can get you to work this country is a joke anyway, as soon as i can im out of here.. Where would you go?
Home to Oman or Thailand probably,
i think yeh you should be put to work but free money is a joke.. in other countries they will just employ you to pick up litter, open doors, press elevator buttons, garden, clean. whatever.. but as they are paying you they can get you to work this country is a joke anyway, as soon as i can im out of here.. Where would you go? Home to Oman or Thailand probably, |
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UK General Election 2010, by simonf on Jan 4, 2010 18:14:49 GMT 1, I have to say if tax payers money (ie mine) is given to people for free, then asking them to do some work for it (as i have to do) seems a persuasive argument. although some people because of illness disability or even their religion might find it very hard to get proper work Agree there would be different circumstances, and these would have to be addressed individually, as is down now with people claiming for disablities etc etc, so there will be people who cant work, But there would be huge numbers im sure who could work. Can i ask how would Religion affect this?.
Well if your religion, for example. meant you had to wear a burkah.. so that only your eyes were showing, I would imagine it would be very difficult to get someone to give you a job.
I can't think of many jobs where that would be considered acceptable. It would be against health and safety in a factory for example, and would be less than perfect for people working in customer relations, or has been proved in the courts lately teaching.
In that instance it might be very hard to get a job. In which case, as a society that respects the individuals religion, the there would be little choice but to pay the person tax payers money whether they work or not.
I have to say if tax payers money (ie mine) is given to people for free, then asking them to do some work for it (as i have to do) seems a persuasive argument. although some people because of illness disability or even their religion might find it very hard to get proper work Agree there would be different circumstances, and these would have to be addressed individually, as is down now with people claiming for disablities etc etc, so there will be people who cant work, But there would be huge numbers im sure who could work. Can i ask how would Religion affect this?. Well if your religion, for example. meant you had to wear a burkah.. so that only your eyes were showing, I would imagine it would be very difficult to get someone to give you a job. I can't think of many jobs where that would be considered acceptable. It would be against health and safety in a factory for example, and would be less than perfect for people working in customer relations, or has been proved in the courts lately teaching. In that instance it might be very hard to get a job. In which case, as a society that respects the individuals religion, the there would be little choice but to pay the person tax payers money whether they work or not. |
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UK General Election 2010, by bazzj04 on Jan 4, 2010 18:21:15 GMT 1, This s very true , but this would open up yet another loop whole and so many people just change religion for this reason
Prehaps as harsh as it sounds we need to stop being so tolerent of people religion and actually put country before indiiduals , were all here you know... If you want money you work unless you cant , but im pretty sure. Religion affected by this could clean streets?. Paint walls> and not have issues from emplyers ?.
but we see , and if this comes across racist at all, It was totally unintended and am not racist in anyways ,
This s very true , but this would open up yet another loop whole and so many people just change religion for this reason
Prehaps as harsh as it sounds we need to stop being so tolerent of people religion and actually put country before indiiduals , were all here you know... If you want money you work unless you cant , but im pretty sure. Religion affected by this could clean streets?. Paint walls> and not have issues from emplyers ?.
but we see , and if this comes across racist at all, It was totally unintended and am not racist in anyways ,
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UK General Election 2010, by Deleted on Jan 4, 2010 18:21:57 GMT 1, Agree there would be different circumstances, and these would have to be addressed individually, as is down now with people claiming for disablities etc etc, so there will be people who cant work, But there would be huge numbers im sure who could work. Can i ask how would Religion affect this?. I can't think of many jobs where that would be considered acceptable. It would be against health and safety in a factory for example, and would be less than perfect for people working in customer relations, or has been proved in the courts lately teaching. In that instance it might be very hard to get a job. In which case, as a society that respects the individuals religion, the there would be little choice but to pay the person tax payers money whether they work or not.
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Agree there would be different circumstances, and these would have to be addressed individually, as is down now with people claiming for disablities etc etc, so there will be people who cant work, But there would be huge numbers im sure who could work. Can i ask how would Religion affect this?. I can't think of many jobs where that would be considered acceptable. It would be against health and safety in a factory for example, and would be less than perfect for people working in customer relations, or has been proved in the courts lately teaching. In that instance it might be very hard to get a job. In which case, as a society that respects the individuals religion, the there would be little choice but to pay the person tax payers money whether they work or not. store detective |
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