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Banksy in San Francisco, by BK83 on Apr 22, 2010 22:10:13 GMT 1, Just what the doctor ordered!
Just what the doctor ordered!
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Banksy in San Francisco, by thejoker on Apr 22, 2010 22:13:45 GMT 1, love it, still hoping he hits up Philly
love it, still hoping he hits up Philly
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Banksy in San Francisco, by gozgoz on Apr 22, 2010 22:29:45 GMT 1, im probably gonna lynched here but i dont really like any of the above... sorry.
im probably gonna lynched here but i dont really like any of the above... sorry.
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Banksy in San Francisco, by bigtlt on Apr 22, 2010 22:32:15 GMT 1, would love to see a better picture of the first one, can't seem to find any anywhere though yet
would love to see a better picture of the first one, can't seem to find any anywhere though yet
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Banksy in San Francisco, by Fragile on Apr 22, 2010 22:54:47 GMT 1, great stuff
great stuff
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Banksy in San Francisco, by Fragile on Apr 22, 2010 22:57:44 GMT 1, Love this shot
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Banksy in San Francisco, by buddings on Apr 22, 2010 23:00:03 GMT 1, awesome. wonder if there's more...?
awesome. wonder if there's more...?
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Banksy in San Francisco, by jakek on Apr 22, 2010 23:27:48 GMT 1,
OK, so normally Banksy's work can work on multiple levels - and you can admire the skill of the work, a simple message and often a more thoughtful message...
I have to say I just don't really get this piece on any of the levels really...
I don't like the fact the heart is a bit of a mess (but guess this may be part of the piece)...
I don't really get the superficial message either; "peace and love is sick"?
And is there another message i am completely missing?
I'd love some explanation.
And in contrast i really like the other piece and its comment about the commotidisation and removal of banksy's street pieces.
OK, so normally Banksy's work can work on multiple levels - and you can admire the skill of the work, a simple message and often a more thoughtful message... I have to say I just don't really get this piece on any of the levels really... I don't like the fact the heart is a bit of a mess (but guess this may be part of the piece)... I don't really get the superficial message either; "peace and love is sick"? And is there another message i am completely missing? I'd love some explanation. And in contrast i really like the other piece and its comment about the commotidisation and removal of banksy's street pieces. |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by rowan on Apr 22, 2010 23:35:07 GMT 1, Could someone please scale that wall and take a close up picture of the first image? Thanks 
Jakek - Maybe the heart was there before, and Banksy added to it? Just a thought?
Could someone please scale that wall and take a close up picture of the first image? Thanks Jakek - Maybe the heart was there before, and Banksy added to it? Just a thought? |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by bigtlt on Apr 22, 2010 23:42:59 GMT 1, Think the "Peace + Love" was there before.
Think the "Peace + Love" was there before.
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Banksy in San Francisco, by streetartisdead on Apr 22, 2010 23:45:14 GMT 1,  Like a knife through butter...
at the least a little dig at 'oooh i wonder if this will be a print' brigade I wonder?
Like a knife through butter... at the least a little dig at 'oooh i wonder if this will be a print' brigade I wonder? |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by wilfsboy on Apr 22, 2010 23:49:26 GMT 1, Think the "Peace + Love" was there before.
and being from manchester you'd know this ?!
guess banksy must have spent weeks looking for a heart he could finaly add his piece to  ;D
Think the "Peace + Love" was there before. and being from manchester you'd know this ?! guess banksy must have spent weeks looking for a heart he could finaly add his piece to ;D |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by Daniel Silk on Apr 23, 2010 0:07:48 GMT 1, Interesting stuff Think I like the LA pieces better  What do you think?
Interesting stuff Think I like the LA pieces better What do you think? |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by bigtlt on Apr 23, 2010 0:16:22 GMT 1, Think the "Peace + Love" was there before. and being from manchester you'd know this ?! guess banksy must have spent weeks looking for a heart he could finaly add his piece to ;D
Didn't claim to know anything, which is why I said "Think"
Just believe Banksy's can control is better than shown in the peace sign and heart, why cut a perfect stencil, then make a mess of the other part.
Think the "Peace + Love" was there before. and being from manchester you'd know this ?! guess banksy must have spent weeks looking for a heart he could finaly add his piece to ;D Didn't claim to know anything, which is why I said "Think" Just believe Banksy's can control is better than shown in the peace sign and heart, why cut a perfect stencil, then make a mess of the other part. |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by Daniel Silk on Apr 23, 2010 0:18:19 GMT 1, Another piece to promote the film?  Not sure its such a good idea to do these new pieces and let them appear so clearly to be just about promoting the film. What do you think?
Another piece to promote the film? Not sure its such a good idea to do these new pieces and let them appear so clearly to be just about promoting the film. What do you think? |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by AFR1KA on Apr 23, 2010 0:23:46 GMT 1, Love this shot
Yeah I really like this one.
Love this shot Yeah I really like this one. |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by boaty on Apr 23, 2010 0:39:03 GMT 1, I don't think putting these up now is a bad idea, if it's really him - it's part of our Banksy experience at this juncture - to be remembered for ages...adds mental value to recall when it first appeared on the street (particularly if prints are released)....IMO
Another piece to promote the film? Not sure its such a good idea to do these new pieces and let them appear so clearly to be just about promoting the film. What do you think?
I don't think putting these up now is a bad idea, if it's really him - it's part of our Banksy experience at this juncture - to be remembered for ages...adds mental value to recall when it first appeared on the street (particularly if prints are released)....IMO Another piece to promote the film? Not sure its such a good idea to do these new pieces and let them appear so clearly to be just about promoting the film. What do you think? |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by otomi on Apr 23, 2010 0:50:54 GMT 1, and being from manchester you'd know this ?! guess banksy must have spent weeks looking for a heart he could finaly add his piece to ;D Didn't claim to know anything, which is why I said "Think" Just believe Banksy's can control is better than shown in the peace sign and heart, why cut a perfect stencil, then make a mess of the other part.
There were several pieces like that nice stencil and simple graff
I think it is supposed to look like it was there before
and being from manchester you'd know this ?! guess banksy must have spent weeks looking for a heart he could finaly add his piece to ;D Didn't claim to know anything, which is why I said "Think" Just believe Banksy's can control is better than shown in the peace sign and heart, why cut a perfect stencil, then make a mess of the other part. There were several pieces like that nice stencil and simple graff I think it is supposed to look like it was there before |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by They call me Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 1:03:11 GMT 1, marketing machine...can't wait to see what he has lined up for the dvd release
marketing machine...can't wait to see what he has lined up for the dvd release
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Banksy in San Francisco, by bigtlt on Apr 23, 2010 1:18:40 GMT 1, Personally think the doctor would have been better with the stethoscope on the peace sign, think the message would have been clearer, a doctor checking to see if peace was still alive!
But again only my personal view
isn't San fran regarded as at the centre of the hippy movement and the summer of love, with all the peace and love involved in those times???
Personally think the doctor would have been better with the stethoscope on the peace sign, think the message would have been clearer, a doctor checking to see if peace was still alive!
But again only my personal view
isn't San fran regarded as at the centre of the hippy movement and the summer of love, with all the peace and love involved in those times???
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Banksy in San Francisco, by amsterdam9697 on Apr 23, 2010 5:56:31 GMT 1, OK, so normally Banksy's work can work on multiple levels - and you can admire the skill of the work, a simple message and often a more thoughtful message... I have to say I just don't really get this piece on any of the levels really... I don't like the fact the heart is a bit of a mess (but guess this may be part of the piece)... I don't really get the superficial message either; "peace and love is sick"? And is there another message i am completely missing? I'd love some explanation. And in contrast i really like the other piece and its comment about the commotidisation and removal of banksy's street pieces.
The human decency of peace & love has been tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials.
I think Banksy's pretty much spot on! 
OK, so normally Banksy's work can work on multiple levels - and you can admire the skill of the work, a simple message and often a more thoughtful message... I have to say I just don't really get this piece on any of the levels really... I don't like the fact the heart is a bit of a mess (but guess this may be part of the piece)... I don't really get the superficial message either; "peace and love is sick"? And is there another message i am completely missing? I'd love some explanation. And in contrast i really like the other piece and its comment about the commotidisation and removal of banksy's street pieces. The human decency of peace & love has been tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials. I think Banksy's pretty much spot on! |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by lc3 on Apr 23, 2010 6:54:08 GMT 1, Only thing for me is that there are WAY better places to paint than those spots throughout SF (I'd lived in Sf for 20 years until recently)... . I guess he was staying in the Mission and whoever he was with showed him some places, but those spots seem so sad for a Banksy in SF. Nonetheless, it's great to see them, and I'm so happy they're there.
On another note, in response to an earlier post in the thread, I think the "this'll look nice when it's framed" is a response to his public pieces taken down and sold (Chrismas in LA), NOT about his prints. I believe absolutely that Banksy continues to make his prints available so that "people" are actually able to own and appreciate them (and yes ALSO OF COURSE for $ himself and $ for his gallery folks). But in that vein, he could take a very different and twisted route, which he hasn't. His sticking with POW for so many years is remarkable, IMO absolutely admirable and is inspiring.
POW is probably the best gallery I've ever dealt with... In this world "street art," from Gagosian to Deitch, to Ace...The way POW (and he, through POW) treat their patrons & fans is better than almost any gallery I have ever dealt with (the Luggage store in Sf is amazing, and I suspect the Charley Edwards/Pure Evil gallery is on the up-n-up. ). But very sincerely... For the "power" POW holds, and the many years they've been in the game while always maintaining their integrity, they are incredible. They've never balked on integrity... Or at least, I've never seen them waver since I've started with them in 2003. Dora's not an automation; she's a human being, and she treats people as human beings.
The grey Nola last year(?) is a perfect example of the gallery communicating with the artist about a genuine gallery/customer problem... And the artist and gallery sorting it out together to solve the problem. To me, that's a big deal. It would have been so easy for them to say "Um, we're VERY sorry, and here's your $ back." But between the artist (Banksy) and the gallery (POW) they bent themselves to make it right.
That's why Nola Grey is one of the most important Banksy prints to me.
I won't name the gallery or artist (but this is in LA)... I've been waiting for a gallery piece I've already bought/paid for for over 7 months... I was supposed to pick it up last October (actually I did, but they gave me a different piece). I let them know immediately... They've NEVER emailed or called to say what's up. I get vague apologies when I email or call. And this is a major artist, and a major gallery. It's just become ridiculous and sad. They're much higher profile than POW and I guarantee, I'll /never/ give them my $ again. POW, no problem. I believe they're one of the best and most honest galleries in the world.
Only thing for me is that there are WAY better places to paint than those spots throughout SF (I'd lived in Sf for 20 years until recently)... . I guess he was staying in the Mission and whoever he was with showed him some places, but those spots seem so sad for a Banksy in SF. Nonetheless, it's great to see them, and I'm so happy they're there.
On another note, in response to an earlier post in the thread, I think the "this'll look nice when it's framed" is a response to his public pieces taken down and sold (Chrismas in LA), NOT about his prints. I believe absolutely that Banksy continues to make his prints available so that "people" are actually able to own and appreciate them (and yes ALSO OF COURSE for $ himself and $ for his gallery folks). But in that vein, he could take a very different and twisted route, which he hasn't. His sticking with POW for so many years is remarkable, IMO absolutely admirable and is inspiring.
POW is probably the best gallery I've ever dealt with... In this world "street art," from Gagosian to Deitch, to Ace...The way POW (and he, through POW) treat their patrons & fans is better than almost any gallery I have ever dealt with (the Luggage store in Sf is amazing, and I suspect the Charley Edwards/Pure Evil gallery is on the up-n-up. ). But very sincerely... For the "power" POW holds, and the many years they've been in the game while always maintaining their integrity, they are incredible. They've never balked on integrity... Or at least, I've never seen them waver since I've started with them in 2003. Dora's not an automation; she's a human being, and she treats people as human beings.
The grey Nola last year(?) is a perfect example of the gallery communicating with the artist about a genuine gallery/customer problem... And the artist and gallery sorting it out together to solve the problem. To me, that's a big deal. It would have been so easy for them to say "Um, we're VERY sorry, and here's your $ back." But between the artist (Banksy) and the gallery (POW) they bent themselves to make it right.
That's why Nola Grey is one of the most important Banksy prints to me.
I won't name the gallery or artist (but this is in LA)... I've been waiting for a gallery piece I've already bought/paid for for over 7 months... I was supposed to pick it up last October (actually I did, but they gave me a different piece). I let them know immediately... They've NEVER emailed or called to say what's up. I get vague apologies when I email or call. And this is a major artist, and a major gallery. It's just become ridiculous and sad. They're much higher profile than POW and I guarantee, I'll /never/ give them my $ again. POW, no problem. I believe they're one of the best and most honest galleries in the world.
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Banksy in San Francisco, by lc3 on Apr 23, 2010 7:38:32 GMT 1, The human decency of peace & love has been tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials. I think Banksy's pretty much spot on!
Eh... Maybe he's saying LOVE/PEACE needs a check-up? Just a thought...
I mean I do agree with you regarding us being "tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials." But do you think really what this particular piece is really about? ...I myself, think it's about something different.
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The human decency of peace & love has been tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials. I think Banksy's pretty much spot on! Eh... Maybe he's saying LOVE/PEACE needs a check-up? Just a thought... I mean I do agree with you regarding us being "tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials." But do you think really what this particular piece is really about? ...I myself, think it's about something different. ... |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by kennas on Apr 23, 2010 8:21:12 GMT 1, Eh... Maybe he's saying LOVE/PEACE needs a check-up? Just a thought...
EXACTLY how i read it! What a nice surprise to wake up to on this sunny friday morning!
Eh... Maybe he's saying LOVE/PEACE needs a check-up? Just a thought... EXACTLY how i read it! What a nice surprise to wake up to on this sunny friday morning! |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by jp on Apr 23, 2010 8:29:59 GMT 1, Another piece to promote the film? Not sure its such a good idea to do these new pieces and let them appear so clearly to be just about promoting the film. What do you think?
These pieces don't say anything about the film, and 99% of people will walk by, look, smile (or not), and continue with their lives. They'll be totally oblivious to who did the work or why. That's what makes a Banksy piece so great. It can be enjoyed based on its own merits.
Of course we as fans can see the promotion side but do you really get tired of seeing Banksy on the street? I don't.
Another piece to promote the film? Not sure its such a good idea to do these new pieces and let them appear so clearly to be just about promoting the film. What do you think? These pieces don't say anything about the film, and 99% of people will walk by, look, smile (or not), and continue with their lives. They'll be totally oblivious to who did the work or why. That's what makes a Banksy piece so great. It can be enjoyed based on its own merits. Of course we as fans can see the promotion side but do you really get tired of seeing Banksy on the street? I don't. |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by romanywg on Apr 23, 2010 9:02:58 GMT 1, A couple better and closer pictures here. Please don't put them up here without a link to the photographers flickr site. It's only polite.
www.flickr.com/photos/troyholden/
A couple better and closer pictures here. Please don't put them up here without a link to the photographers flickr site. It's only polite. www.flickr.com/photos/troyholden/ |
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Banksy in San Francisco, by spirit on Apr 23, 2010 9:54:49 GMT 1, OK, so normally Banksy's work can work on multiple levels - and you can admire the skill of the work, a simple message and often a more thoughtful message... I have to say I just don't really get this piece on any of the levels really... I don't like the fact the heart is a bit of a mess (but guess this may be part of the piece)... I don't really get the superficial message either; "peace and love is sick"? And is there another message i am completely missing? I'd love some explanation. And in contrast i really like the other piece and its comment about the commotidisation and removal of banksy's street pieces. The human decency of peace & love has been tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials. I think Banksy's pretty much spot on!
I think as usual, the location has a large part to play here - that location being San Francisco - the original home of the peace and love and hippies.
I think the Doctor is checking on the state of peace and love. I don't think it says peace and love is dead or dying - it certainly doesn't look like an emergency situation to me, the doctor has a calm face and looks like he is doing a regular health check.
Edit: Just noticed lc3 said that on page 1!
OK, so normally Banksy's work can work on multiple levels - and you can admire the skill of the work, a simple message and often a more thoughtful message... I have to say I just don't really get this piece on any of the levels really... I don't like the fact the heart is a bit of a mess (but guess this may be part of the piece)... I don't really get the superficial message either; "peace and love is sick"? And is there another message i am completely missing? I'd love some explanation. And in contrast i really like the other piece and its comment about the commotidisation and removal of banksy's street pieces. The human decency of peace & love has been tossed to the wayside in our greedy lust for money and materials. I think Banksy's pretty much spot on! I think as usual, the location has a large part to play here - that location being San Francisco - the original home of the peace and love and hippies. I think the Doctor is checking on the state of peace and love. I don't think it says peace and love is dead or dying - it certainly doesn't look like an emergency situation to me, the doctor has a calm face and looks like he is doing a regular health check. Edit: Just noticed lc3 said that on page 1! |
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What do you think?
Not sure its such a good idea to do these new pieces and let them appear so clearly to be just about promoting the film. What do you think?
