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US ELECTION, by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2008 22:37:29 GMT 1, Almost as good at bull s**tting as Bill Clinton I'll say it.
Clinton was a great president and I think that's even more obvious when you look at all of the things Bush did to destroy the country.
Almost as good at bull s**tting as Bill Clinton I'll say it. Clinton was a great president and I think that's even more obvious when you look at all of the things Bush did to destroy the country. |
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US ELECTION, by manchestermike on Nov 4, 2008 22:38:12 GMT 1, Why is that? Why does he mean change? Because his HYPE oops, sorry HOPE campaign told you that? Do you believe everything that comes out of his mouth? He's a politician remember... Of course there will be A change or two if he gets in, new man in office, first black president blah blah... but WHAT exactly will be the change he talks about... Give him six months, he'll be EXACTLY like any other man in power. You'll realise you've been sucked in by the spin and hype and you'll feel dirty for it Mike, I feel sorry for you. You assume he's a liar before he's even assumed office. If you look at his life history and his voting record as well as being one of the only politicians in the US who spoke out against the war when the administration was branding anyone who did as a terrorist sympathizer you'd see that he walks the damn walk. Just curious, how have the past 8 years treated you? Hows business these days? How have the failed policies of this administration tanking the world economy affected you? Someone so jaded and bitter suggests to me that perhaps you're having a rougher go as the rest of us.
The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... Thanks for asking. How's it with you?
Not jaded or bitter at all... just got my eyes open
Why is that? Why does he mean change? Because his HYPE oops, sorry HOPE campaign told you that? Do you believe everything that comes out of his mouth? He's a politician remember... Of course there will be A change or two if he gets in, new man in office, first black president blah blah... but WHAT exactly will be the change he talks about... Give him six months, he'll be EXACTLY like any other man in power. You'll realise you've been sucked in by the spin and hype and you'll feel dirty for it Mike, I feel sorry for you. You assume he's a liar before he's even assumed office. If you look at his life history and his voting record as well as being one of the only politicians in the US who spoke out against the war when the administration was branding anyone who did as a terrorist sympathizer you'd see that he walks the damn walk. Just curious, how have the past 8 years treated you? Hows business these days? How have the failed policies of this administration tanking the world economy affected you? Someone so jaded and bitter suggests to me that perhaps you're having a rougher go as the rest of us. The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... Thanks for asking. How's it with you? Not jaded or bitter at all... just got my eyes open |
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US ELECTION, by havana07 on Nov 4, 2008 22:38:36 GMT 1, "Obama is slimy and sickly smooth".... Keep going, you're almost there.... Not sure what you're getting at havana07 but I think you should be careful with what you say next.
If you are not sure, then I suggest you keep your trap shut. I'm not saying anything, I'm just letting MM do all the talking.
"Obama is slimy and sickly smooth".... Keep going, you're almost there.... Not sure what you're getting at havana07 but I think you should be careful with what you say next. If you are not sure, then I suggest you keep your trap shut. I'm not saying anything, I'm just letting MM do all the talking. |
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US ELECTION, by shaunyboy on Nov 4, 2008 22:38:56 GMT 1, And I cant believe that there are people here that think the opposite. Why is that? Why does he mean change? Because his HYPE oops, sorry HOPE campaign told you that? Do you believe everything that comes out of his mouth? He's a politician remember... Of course there will be A change or two if he gets in, new man in office, first black president blah blah... but WHAT exactly will be the change he talks about... Give him six months, he'll be EXACTLY like any other man in power. You'll realise you've been sucked in by the spin and hype and you'll feel dirty for it
Come on Mike,
McCain was telling us constantly that he was the maverick. Indeed, with Palin they were both mavericks! This was seen as a positive in the US.
He was for change and that he wasn't Bush. This was the only chance he had of winning because Bush fucked up so much.
Like you say, the truth is that no matter who wins there will be very little change as they both represent the Business Parties.
But what are the McCain policies that turn you on so much Mike?
And I cant believe that there are people here that think the opposite. Why is that? Why does he mean change? Because his HYPE oops, sorry HOPE campaign told you that? Do you believe everything that comes out of his mouth? He's a politician remember... Of course there will be A change or two if he gets in, new man in office, first black president blah blah... but WHAT exactly will be the change he talks about... Give him six months, he'll be EXACTLY like any other man in power. You'll realise you've been sucked in by the spin and hype and you'll feel dirty for it Come on Mike, McCain was telling us constantly that he was the maverick. Indeed, with Palin they were both mavericks! This was seen as a positive in the US. He was for change and that he wasn't Bush. This was the only chance he had of winning because Bush fucked up so much. Like you say, the truth is that no matter who wins there will be very little change as they both represent the Business Parties. But what are the McCain policies that turn you on so much Mike? |
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US ELECTION, by buffin on Nov 4, 2008 22:40:13 GMT 1, Don't worry about Mike. A year ago he was assuring us that that the credit crunch in America would have no effect on the UK.
Don't worry about Mike. A year ago he was assuring us that that the credit crunch in America would have no effect on the UK.
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US ELECTION, by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2008 22:40:47 GMT 1, Ok I see it's all happening on this thread. Have to say I completely agree with Mike havana - you seem to think Mike holds the view he does because he a "good ole boy" (with the potentially racist undertones that suggests) If he's like me then he holds these views simply because he sees how the system works. When he says that Obama will most likely be a disappointment 6 months down the line, it's not because he's black or a democrat or anything like that - it's because he's just like any other presidential contender - backed by corporate and banking money and a paid up member of the system. The democrat/republican system is in power and the best way for it to stay that way is to maintain the status quo for as long as possible. That means no significant change.
Incorrect. All of his donations were from individual donors. Not from corporations, not lobbyists, not PAC. Fail.
Ok I see it's all happening on this thread. Have to say I completely agree with Mike havana - you seem to think Mike holds the view he does because he a "good ole boy" (with the potentially racist undertones that suggests) If he's like me then he holds these views simply because he sees how the system works. When he says that Obama will most likely be a disappointment 6 months down the line, it's not because he's black or a democrat or anything like that - it's because he's just like any other presidential contender - backed by corporate and banking money and a paid up member of the system. The democrat/republican system is in power and the best way for it to stay that way is to maintain the status quo for as long as possible. That means no significant change. Incorrect. All of his donations were from individual donors. Not from corporations, not lobbyists, not PAC. Fail. |
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US ELECTION, by junkieart on Nov 4, 2008 22:43:46 GMT 1, Mike, you don't give a f*ck who wins? This is the vote for the most powerful man on the planet.
It is worrying that you don't care. yet are willing to put peoples opinions down. These people change the world for good or bad (mostly bad for the insane BUSH) you must have an opinion above, how much money they have spent on their circus like election trail??
Think the money could have ben better spend on getting out of IRAQ, but thats a different argument which will hopefully be short lived!!! Obama for the sake of humanity....
Mike, you don't give a f*ck who wins? This is the vote for the most powerful man on the planet.
It is worrying that you don't care. yet are willing to put peoples opinions down. These people change the world for good or bad (mostly bad for the insane BUSH) you must have an opinion above, how much money they have spent on their circus like election trail??
Think the money could have ben better spend on getting out of IRAQ, but thats a different argument which will hopefully be short lived!!! Obama for the sake of humanity....
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US ELECTION, by havana07 on Nov 4, 2008 22:45:11 GMT 1, Ok I see it's all happening on this thread. Have to say I completely agree with Mike havana - you seem to think Mike holds the view he does because he a "good ole boy" (with the potentially racist undertones that suggests) If he's like me then he holds these views simply because he sees how the system works. When he says that Obama will most likely be a disappointment 6 months down the line, it's not because he's black or a democrat or anything like that - it's because he's just like any other presidential contender - backed by corporate and banking money and a paid up member of the system. The democrat/republican system is in power and the best way for it to stay that way is to maintain the status quo for as long as possible. That means no significant change.
Oh puuurlease! Your so far off point. So I question Mike, big deal! I just want to know why someone so jolly on the forum, gets so bitter about Obama. For 6 months I've had to hear him droning on and on about 'Obama the deceiver' and tonight I question him, you throw black in my face? Dude change the script. That boat has gone.......
Ok I see it's all happening on this thread. Have to say I completely agree with Mike havana - you seem to think Mike holds the view he does because he a "good ole boy" (with the potentially racist undertones that suggests) If he's like me then he holds these views simply because he sees how the system works. When he says that Obama will most likely be a disappointment 6 months down the line, it's not because he's black or a democrat or anything like that - it's because he's just like any other presidential contender - backed by corporate and banking money and a paid up member of the system. The democrat/republican system is in power and the best way for it to stay that way is to maintain the status quo for as long as possible. That means no significant change. Oh puuurlease! Your so far off point. So I question Mike, big deal! I just want to know why someone so jolly on the forum, gets so bitter about Obama. For 6 months I've had to hear him droning on and on about 'Obama the deceiver' and tonight I question him, you throw black in my face? Dude change the script. That boat has gone....... |
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US ELECTION, by havana07 on Nov 4, 2008 22:47:26 GMT 1, If you are not sure, then I suggest you keep your trap shut. I'm not saying anything, I'm just letting MM do all the talking. At least Mike is saying something worth listening to not like the drivel that is coming out of your mouth. And I knew exactly what you were getting at was just trying to calm the situation down before you made a p*ick of yourself. Oh look you already have!!!!
Heh heh... ;D Anytime you want to suck it just pm me!
If you are not sure, then I suggest you keep your trap shut. I'm not saying anything, I'm just letting MM do all the talking. At least Mike is saying something worth listening to not like the drivel that is coming out of your mouth. And I knew exactly what you were getting at was just trying to calm the situation down before you made a p*ick of yourself. Oh look you already have!!!! Heh heh... ;D Anytime you want to suck it just pm me! |
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US ELECTION, by spirit on Nov 4, 2008 22:50:13 GMT 1, [Keep dreaming of the good ole days like the good ole boys!
Throw black in your face???
Maybe I misinterpreted the above - but if so it was certainly open to misinterpretation.
Please clarify for me - what were the good ole days? - and who are the good ole boys?
[Keep dreaming of the good ole days like the good ole boys! Throw black in your face??? Maybe I misinterpreted the above - but if so it was certainly open to misinterpretation. Please clarify for me - what were the good ole days? - and who are the good ole boys? |
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US ELECTION, by junkieart on Nov 4, 2008 22:50:21 GMT 1, Btw bobby, love you new piccy thingy!!
Btw bobby, love you new piccy thingy!!
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US ELECTION, by manchestermike on Nov 4, 2008 22:52:47 GMT 1, Don't worry about Mike. A year ago he was assuring us that that the credit crunch in America would have no effect on the UK.
Things are going on as normal with me... no change or effect in the main
Like you say, the truth is that no matter who wins there will be very little change as they both represent the Business Parties. But what are the McCain policies that turn you on so much Mike?
Like I said before, what you see is what you get with him. With Obama I see it as what you see is definitely not what you'll be getting
Mike, you don't give a f*ck who wins? This is the vote for the most powerful man on the planet. It is worrying that you don't care. yet are willing to put peoples opinions down. These people change the world for good or bad (mostly bad for the insane BUSH) you must have an opinion above, how much money they have spent on their circus like election trail?? Think the money could have ben better spend on getting out of IRAQ, but thats a different argument which will hopefully be short lived!!! Obama for the sake of humanity....
I agree... the money could be better spent. Tell that to Mr Obama with all the cash he's spent on his campaign trail...
And havana, I know exactly where you were going and exactly what you were insinuating, I think the stereotyping is best left to you though
Don't worry about Mike. A year ago he was assuring us that that the credit crunch in America would have no effect on the UK. Things are going on as normal with me... no change or effect in the main Like you say, the truth is that no matter who wins there will be very little change as they both represent the Business Parties. But what are the McCain policies that turn you on so much Mike? Like I said before, what you see is what you get with him. With Obama I see it as what you see is definitely not what you'll be getting Mike, you don't give a f*ck who wins? This is the vote for the most powerful man on the planet. It is worrying that you don't care. yet are willing to put peoples opinions down. These people change the world for good or bad (mostly bad for the insane BUSH) you must have an opinion above, how much money they have spent on their circus like election trail?? Think the money could have ben better spend on getting out of IRAQ, but thats a different argument which will hopefully be short lived!!! Obama for the sake of humanity.... I agree... the money could be better spent. Tell that to Mr Obama with all the cash he's spent on his campaign trail... And havana, I know exactly where you were going and exactly what you were insinuating, I think the stereotyping is best left to you though |
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US ELECTION, by graffoto on Nov 4, 2008 22:53:36 GMT 1, The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... Thanks for asking. How's it with you? Not jaded or bitter at all... just got my eyes open
the past eight years built one thing - and it's been shown not to have good effects the world over -
your business may be good now - but let's see as the art world starts to feel the crunch - then who'll you blame.... selfish people like you.....
Obama - is not Bush that will be change
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The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... Thanks for asking. How's it with you? Not jaded or bitter at all... just got my eyes open the past eight years built one thing - and it's been shown not to have good effects the world over - your business may be good now - but let's see as the art world starts to feel the crunch - then who'll you blame.... selfish people like you..... Obama - is not Bush that will be change - END - |
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US ELECTION, by Avian Security on Nov 4, 2008 22:54:23 GMT 1, I personally feel that at a time of increased diplomatic tension around the world it would be healthy to have someone who truly appreciates the real horrors of war to be making the decisions. I also fear the Barracks lack of past credibility will mean he'll want to come in and stamp his mark, but probably in the wrong way. "Truly appreciates the real horrors of war"... what the hell does that mean? Have you ever been IN an actual war? I have... Iraq.... and it doesn't help s**t. I suffer from an anxiety disorder and depression now... So, based your strict standards, i guess i should run for President. Most of you need to stick to talking about buying and trading art... because when it comes politics... your ignorance is blinding.
Thread won. Lock thread.
I personally feel that at a time of increased diplomatic tension around the world it would be healthy to have someone who truly appreciates the real horrors of war to be making the decisions. I also fear the Barracks lack of past credibility will mean he'll want to come in and stamp his mark, but probably in the wrong way. "Truly appreciates the real horrors of war"... what the hell does that mean? Have you ever been IN an actual war? I have... Iraq.... and it doesn't help s**t. I suffer from an anxiety disorder and depression now... So, based your strict standards, i guess i should run for President. Most of you need to stick to talking about buying and trading art... because when it comes politics... your ignorance is blinding. Thread won. Lock thread. |
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US ELECTION, by manchestermike on Nov 4, 2008 22:59:26 GMT 1, The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... Thanks for asking. How's it with you? Not jaded or bitter at all... just got my eyes open your business may be good now - but let's see as the art world starts to feel the crunch - then who'll you blame.... selfish people like you.....
I think people are already buying less art and will buy less for a while yet. My other business are busier than ever though.
Also, please explain why I'm selfish?
The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... Thanks for asking. How's it with you? Not jaded or bitter at all... just got my eyes open your business may be good now - but let's see as the art world starts to feel the crunch - then who'll you blame.... selfish people like you..... I think people are already buying less art and will buy less for a while yet. My other business are busier than ever though. Also, please explain why I'm selfish? |
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US ELECTION, by junkieart on Nov 4, 2008 23:02:42 GMT 1, MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain?
MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain?
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US ELECTION, by mammal2 on Nov 4, 2008 23:02:53 GMT 1, Lets not shit ourselves
Lets not shit ourselves
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US ELECTION, by leumasdarnley on Nov 4, 2008 23:07:39 GMT 1, Almost as good at bull s**tting as Bill Clinton I'll say it. Clinton was a great president and I think that's even more obvious when you look at all of the things Bush did to destroy the country.
It's anything but Bush I guess that worked for Obama in the end and I'm sure Bush will be the excuse for everything that happens while he is in term.... such is politics. No offense pfffffft I know you take this personally as do I 
Almost as good at bull s**tting as Bill Clinton I'll say it. Clinton was a great president and I think that's even more obvious when you look at all of the things Bush did to destroy the country. It's anything but Bush I guess that worked for Obama in the end and I'm sure Bush will be the excuse for everything that happens while he is in term.... such is politics. No offense pfffffft I know you take this personally as do I |
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US ELECTION, by junkieart on Nov 4, 2008 23:08:24 GMT 1, The times are a changing!!! This will hopefully be better than when the wicked witch died in the UK
The times are a changing!!! This will hopefully be better than when the wicked witch died in the UK
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US ELECTION, by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2008 23:09:10 GMT 1, Mike, I feel sorry for you. You assume he's a liar before he's even assumed office. If you look at his life history and his voting record as well as being one of the only politicians in the US who spoke out against the war when the administration was branding anyone who did as a terrorist sympathizer you'd see that he walks the damn walk. Just curious, how have the past 8 years treated you? Hows business these days? How have the failed policies of this administration tanking the world economy affected you? Someone so jaded and bitter suggests to me that perhaps you're having a rougher go as the rest of us. The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year...
That's not what I've heard and I speak with quite a few galleries, interesting that it would just be you and one other gallery doing well. Sounds like someone is exaggerating a bit...
Mike, I feel sorry for you. You assume he's a liar before he's even assumed office. If you look at his life history and his voting record as well as being one of the only politicians in the US who spoke out against the war when the administration was branding anyone who did as a terrorist sympathizer you'd see that he walks the damn walk. Just curious, how have the past 8 years treated you? Hows business these days? How have the failed policies of this administration tanking the world economy affected you? Someone so jaded and bitter suggests to me that perhaps you're having a rougher go as the rest of us. The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... That's not what I've heard and I speak with quite a few galleries, interesting that it would just be you and one other gallery doing well. Sounds like someone is exaggerating a bit... |
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US ELECTION, by spirit on Nov 4, 2008 23:09:12 GMT 1, Lets not s**t ourselves quality - thanks for that 
Lets not s**t ourselves quality - thanks for that |
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US ELECTION, by havana07 on Nov 4, 2008 23:10:05 GMT 1,
I agree... the money could be better spent. Tell that to Mr Obama with all the cash he's spent on his campaign trail...
And havana, I know exactly where you were going and exactly what you were insinuating, I think the stereotyping is best left to you though[/quote]
Nah mate, I'll be gracious and leave the stereotyping to you.
I agree... the money could be better spent. Tell that to Mr Obama with all the cash he's spent on his campaign trail...
And havana, I know exactly where you were going and exactly what you were insinuating, I think the stereotyping is best left to you though[/quote]
Nah mate, I'll be gracious and leave the stereotyping to you.
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US ELECTION, by shaunyboy on Nov 4, 2008 23:11:43 GMT 1, MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain?
Thats what I want to know ;D
MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain? Thats what I want to know ;D |
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US ELECTION, by manchestermike on Nov 4, 2008 23:12:30 GMT 1, MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain?
Again, I feel with him it's a case of what you see is what you get, with Obama I feel people have been blinded by the glitz, glamour, hype and spin of his campaign. You look already at what he (Obama) is promising and can't fulfil... tax cuts for 95% of the population... getting totally out of Iraq are just two... they won't happen. He tells people what they want to hear and with the media totally on side people lap it up.
I just think that people are having the wool pulled over their eyes by Obama and I don't like it
MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain? Again, I feel with him it's a case of what you see is what you get, with Obama I feel people have been blinded by the glitz, glamour, hype and spin of his campaign. You look already at what he (Obama) is promising and can't fulfil... tax cuts for 95% of the population... getting totally out of Iraq are just two... they won't happen. He tells people what they want to hear and with the media totally on side people lap it up. I just think that people are having the wool pulled over their eyes by Obama and I don't like it |
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US ELECTION, by manchestermike on Nov 4, 2008 23:13:29 GMT 1, I agree... the money could be better spent. Tell that to Mr Obama with all the cash he's spent on his campaign trail... And havana, I know exactly where you were going and exactly what you were insinuating, I think the stereotyping is best left to you though
Nah mate, I'll be gracious and leave the stereotyping to you.[/quote]
And please show me where I have stereotyped anyone?
I agree... the money could be better spent. Tell that to Mr Obama with all the cash he's spent on his campaign trail... And havana, I know exactly where you were going and exactly what you were insinuating, I think the stereotyping is best left to you though Nah mate, I'll be gracious and leave the stereotyping to you.[/quote] And please show me where I have stereotyped anyone? |
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US ELECTION, by shaunyboy on Nov 4, 2008 23:15:06 GMT 1, stereotyping- Is that when you use both hands on the keyboard?
stereotyping- Is that when you use both hands on the keyboard?
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US ELECTION, by manchestermike on Nov 4, 2008 23:15:22 GMT 1, The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... That's not what I've heard and I speak with quite a few galleries, interesting that it would just be you and one other gallery doing well. Sounds like someone is exaggerating a bit...
Art is quiet, but as it's a new business for me it's not a noticeable change. My other businesses are very busy. Never assume
The past eight years... pretty good thanks. Business is good too, very busy and looking to be busier going into next year... That's not what I've heard and I speak with quite a few galleries, interesting that it would just be you and one other gallery doing well. Sounds like someone is exaggerating a bit... Art is quiet, but as it's a new business for me it's not a noticeable change. My other businesses are very busy. Never assume |
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US ELECTION, by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2008 23:16:36 GMT 1, MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain? Again, I feel with him it's a case of what you see is what you get, with Obama I feel people have been blinded by the glitz, glamour, hype and spin of his campaign. You look already at what he (Obama) is promising and can't fulfil... tax cuts for 95% of the population... getting totally out of Iraq are just two... they won't happen. He tells people what they want to hear and with the media totally on side people lap it up. I just think that people are having the wool pulled over their eyes by Obama and I don't like it
Are you kidding? All he is doing is putting the tax rate back to the same exact one we had during the Clinton administration and having the rich pull their own fair share instead of the rest of us pulling MORE than our fair share. When 1% of the population create 40% of the wealth but pay only 20% of the taxes there is an imbalance.
MM can I just ask why you (reading between the lines) are in favour of McCain? Again, I feel with him it's a case of what you see is what you get, with Obama I feel people have been blinded by the glitz, glamour, hype and spin of his campaign. You look already at what he (Obama) is promising and can't fulfil... tax cuts for 95% of the population... getting totally out of Iraq are just two... they won't happen. He tells people what they want to hear and with the media totally on side people lap it up. I just think that people are having the wool pulled over their eyes by Obama and I don't like it Are you kidding? All he is doing is putting the tax rate back to the same exact one we had during the Clinton administration and having the rich pull their own fair share instead of the rest of us pulling MORE than our fair share. When 1% of the population create 40% of the wealth but pay only 20% of the taxes there is an imbalance. |
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US ELECTION, by leumasdarnley on Nov 4, 2008 23:18:08 GMT 1, 
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US ELECTION, by spirit on Nov 4, 2008 23:21:08 GMT 1, stereotyping- Is that when you use both hands on the keyboard?
no - it's the process of inputting track names into iTunes.
fuck knows what that has to do with an election.
stereotyping- Is that when you use both hands on the keyboard? no - it's the process of inputting track names into iTunes. fuck knows what that has to do with an election. |
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