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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by walshy on Oct 1, 2010 12:19:35 GMT 1, its still valid Art! no matter what he thinks.
what is ?
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by walshy on Oct 1, 2010 12:30:24 GMT 1,
no... how is it valid and what...
his art for PE, or street art
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Daniel Silk on Oct 1, 2010 12:37:06 GMT 1, no... how is it valid and what... his art for PE, or street art
Art doesn't need to just be about the piece itself, it comes with all the baggage of the Banksy v Robbo stories and the meaning behind the pieces existing.
Why has Robbo done this work?
Why is Robbo having a show?
Why did Robbo attack Banksy pieces on the street?
no... how is it valid and what... his art for PE, or street art Art doesn't need to just be about the piece itself, it comes with all the baggage of the Banksy v Robbo stories and the meaning behind the pieces existing. Why has Robbo done this work? Why is Robbo having a show? Why did Robbo attack Banksy pieces on the street? |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by walshy on Oct 1, 2010 13:03:57 GMT 1, no... how is it valid and what... his art for PE, or street art Why has Robbo done this work? Why is Robbo having a show? Why did Robbo attack Banksy pieces on the street?
money...
money...
money...
do these reasons validate what Mr Brainwash 'makes' too ?.... not trolling, once again just interested
no... how is it valid and what... his art for PE, or street art Why has Robbo done this work? Why is Robbo having a show? Why did Robbo attack Banksy pieces on the street? money... money... money... do these reasons validate what Mr Brainwash 'makes' too ?.... not trolling, once again just interested |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Daniel Silk on Oct 1, 2010 13:12:42 GMT 1, If you look around the art world you might come across Artists work that makes you think  hmmmmm are they havin a laugh!
Well maybe they are, maybe their not! only they can say, and even then they might only tell you what they think you want to hear.
Robbo might think he's playing a joke on all the people who visit and buy work at the show, maybe this is serious work by Robbo? who knows.
Lets just say its a joke  that doesn't mean somebody might really love a piece of this work, and enjoy it on display in their home for years to come 
Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol 
If you look around the art world you might come across Artists work that makes you think hmmmmm are they havin a laugh! Well maybe they are, maybe their not! only they can say, and even then they might only tell you what they think you want to hear. Robbo might think he's playing a joke on all the people who visit and buy work at the show, maybe this is serious work by Robbo? who knows. Lets just say its a joke that doesn't mean somebody might really love a piece of this work, and enjoy it on display in their home for years to come Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by walshy on Oct 1, 2010 13:16:09 GMT 1, If you look around the art world you might come across Artists work that makes you think hmmmmm are they havin a laugh! Well maybe they are, maybe their not! only they can say, and even then they might only tell you what they think you want to hear. Robbo might think he's playing a joke on all the people who visit and buy work at the show, maybe this is serious work by Robbo? who knows. Lets just say its a joke that doesn't mean somebody might really love a piece of this work, and enjoy it on display in their home for years to come Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol
My point was how is it validated ? If I paint a canvas and someone buys it.. does that make me an artist ?
If you look around the art world you might come across Artists work that makes you think hmmmmm are they havin a laugh! Well maybe they are, maybe their not! only they can say, and even then they might only tell you what they think you want to hear. Robbo might think he's playing a joke on all the people who visit and buy work at the show, maybe this is serious work by Robbo? who knows. Lets just say its a joke that doesn't mean somebody might really love a piece of this work, and enjoy it on display in their home for years to come Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol My point was how is it validated ? If I paint a canvas and someone buys it.. does that make me an artist ? |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by walshy on Oct 1, 2010 13:31:10 GMT 1,
ok... that was an attempt at clearing up my point although I liked this bit..
people who use imagination, talent, or skill to create works that may be judged to have an aesthetic value.
Il be honest and say ive sat through 100's of hours of art lectures with my tutor going over the concept of 'what is art' with no outcome in sight...
You solved it in 1 min with a quick link to wiki !!
ok... that was an attempt at clearing up my point although I liked this bit.. people who use imagination, talent, or skill to create works that may be judged to have an aesthetic value.Il be honest and say ive sat through 100's of hours of art lectures with my tutor going over the concept of 'what is art' with no outcome in sight... You solved it in 1 min with a quick link to wiki !! |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by stringerbell on Oct 1, 2010 13:56:37 GMT 1, If you look around the art world you might come across Artists work that makes you think hmmmmm are they havin a laugh! Well maybe they are, maybe their not! only they can say, and even then they might only tell you what they think you want to hear. Robbo might think he's playing a joke on all the people who visit and buy work at the show, maybe this is serious work by Robbo? who knows. Lets just say its a joke that doesn't mean somebody might really love a piece of this work, and enjoy it on display in their home for years to come Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol My point was how is it validated ? If I paint a canvas and someone buys it.. does that make me an artist ?
Yes.
If you look around the art world you might come across Artists work that makes you think hmmmmm are they havin a laugh! Well maybe they are, maybe their not! only they can say, and even then they might only tell you what they think you want to hear. Robbo might think he's playing a joke on all the people who visit and buy work at the show, maybe this is serious work by Robbo? who knows. Lets just say its a joke that doesn't mean somebody might really love a piece of this work, and enjoy it on display in their home for years to come Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol My point was how is it validated ? If I paint a canvas and someone buys it.. does that make me an artist ? Yes. |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by walshy on Oct 1, 2010 14:01:29 GMT 1, My point was how is it validated ? If I paint a canvas and someone buys it.. does that make me an artist ? Yes.
sweet... wheres my red star ?
My point was how is it validated ? If I paint a canvas and someone buys it.. does that make me an artist ? Yes. sweet... wheres my red star ? |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Karl Read on Oct 1, 2010 14:08:17 GMT 1, Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol
Are there seriously people out there that believe that? Thats hilarious.
Some people think Mr Brainwash's work is just a joke, but others seem to think he's the biggest thing since Warhol Are there seriously people out there that believe that? Thats hilarious. |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by alexnh123 on Oct 1, 2010 14:09:48 GMT 1, no... how is it valid and what... his art for PE, or street art Art doesn't need to just be about the piece itself, it comes with all the baggage of the Banksy v Robbo stories and the meaning behind the pieces existing. Why has Robbo done this work? Why is Robbo having a show? Why did Robbo attack Banksy pieces on the street?
How many people, amateur or serious collector, buy art that they have been tipped to buy?
As has been said before; the art market is one of the only sectors that allows insider trading, or words to that effect.
You only have to look at most banksy buyers now to see that they are looking past the art to the value, and the money that they can spin from the purchase.
People are going to rely on the associated background and hype outlined above, to allow themselves to look past the surface offering / what's on the canvas.
Yes people might like what they see on the canvas, and buy and keep, and display for years to come on that basis, but it is likely that a larger proportion of those that do buy will be buying panic buying for the reasons above.
...in all honesty Silky, how often do you think; i don't care what they're discussing on this forum, i'm just glad they're discussing it on my forum?! I do like your little encoraging questions that you insert from time to time to keep the posts flowing!
no... how is it valid and what... his art for PE, or street art Art doesn't need to just be about the piece itself, it comes with all the baggage of the Banksy v Robbo stories and the meaning behind the pieces existing. Why has Robbo done this work? Why is Robbo having a show? Why did Robbo attack Banksy pieces on the street? How many people, amateur or serious collector, buy art that they have been tipped to buy? As has been said before; the art market is one of the only sectors that allows insider trading, or words to that effect. You only have to look at most banksy buyers now to see that they are looking past the art to the value, and the money that they can spin from the purchase. People are going to rely on the associated background and hype outlined above, to allow themselves to look past the surface offering / what's on the canvas. Yes people might like what they see on the canvas, and buy and keep, and display for years to come on that basis, but it is likely that a larger proportion of those that do buy will be buying panic buying for the reasons above. ...in all honesty Silky, how often do you think; i don't care what they're discussing on this forum, i'm just glad they're discussing it on my forum?! I do like your little encoraging questions that you insert from time to time to keep the posts flowing! |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Daniel Silk on Oct 1, 2010 14:43:22 GMT 1, ...in all honesty Silky, how often do you think; i don't care what they're discussing on this forum, I'm just glad they're discussing it on my forum?! I do like your little encoraging questions that you insert from time to time to keep the posts flowing!
Yep, I do like to try and ask questions on threads to try and opens people minds a bit more to see situations from other directions and hopefully into respecting other peoples opinions.
I don't care what people are talking about, in the respect that I don't care if the art they are talking about is something I like or not! I think that's a very important point. A pretty big chunk of the art talked about on the forum would never make it into my collection, and theirs nothing wrong with that we all have different opinions, and a good forum should encourage that, rather than stifling threads about art that you don't like.
...in all honesty Silky, how often do you think; i don't care what they're discussing on this forum, I'm just glad they're discussing it on my forum?! I do like your little encoraging questions that you insert from time to time to keep the posts flowing! Yep, I do like to try and ask questions on threads to try and opens people minds a bit more to see situations from other directions and hopefully into respecting other peoples opinions. I don't care what people are talking about, in the respect that I don't care if the art they are talking about is something I like or not! I think that's a very important point. A pretty big chunk of the art talked about on the forum would never make it into my collection, and theirs nothing wrong with that we all have different opinions, and a good forum should encourage that, rather than stifling threads about art that you don't like. |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by stickitup on Oct 1, 2010 14:44:14 GMT 1, like I say we can all say was art is/is not even if we don't know exactly why something is art, the question is, is it good art or bad art. Duchamp successfully redefined what art could be many years ago. The K foundation made an interesting point about art and money in one of the greatest avant guard acts of art in the last 50 years. If you can find it look for both the documentaries by the KFoundation burning their million Β£ and also Tony Kay's transition from advertising guru to artist, where he investigates what suddenly makes him an artisit and what art can be.
like I say we can all say was art is/is not even if we don't know exactly why something is art, the question is, is it good art or bad art. Duchamp successfully redefined what art could be many years ago. The K foundation made an interesting point about art and money in one of the greatest avant guard acts of art in the last 50 years. If you can find it look for both the documentaries by the KFoundation burning their million Β£ and also Tony Kay's transition from advertising guru to artist, where he investigates what suddenly makes him an artisit and what art can be.
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by walshy on Oct 1, 2010 15:23:56 GMT 1, we all have different opinions, and a good forum should encourage that, rather than stifling threads about art that you don't like.
I fully agree, which is why its dissapointing when more than 2 people declare they dont like or question something... and they get accused of trolling or banned.
There needs to be a middle ground
we all have different opinions, and a good forum should encourage that, rather than stifling threads about art that you don't like. I fully agree, which is why its dissapointing when more than 2 people declare they dont like or question something... and they get accused of trolling or banned. There needs to be a middle ground |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Daniel Silk on Oct 1, 2010 15:41:56 GMT 1, we all have different opinions, and a good forum should encourage that, rather than stifling threads about art that you don't like. I fully agree, which is why its dissapointing when more than 2 people declare they dont like or question something... and they get accused of trolling or banned. There needs to be a middle ground
Lots of people saying how they don't like the possible new Nick Walker print, and the new Bast French Kiss print with no problems
Its when you get people who are abusive, or aggressively battling with people who don't agree with them.
What you call "Middle Ground" is a big grey area that I think this forum gets it right more than most.
we all have different opinions, and a good forum should encourage that, rather than stifling threads about art that you don't like. I fully agree, which is why its dissapointing when more than 2 people declare they dont like or question something... and they get accused of trolling or banned. There needs to be a middle ground Lots of people saying how they don't like the possible new Nick Walker print, and the new Bast French Kiss print with no problems Its when you get people who are abusive, or aggressively battling with people who don't agree with them. What you call "Middle Ground" is a big grey area that I think this forum gets it right more than most. |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by alexnh123 on Oct 1, 2010 16:04:28 GMT 1, I fully agree, which is why its dissapointing when more than 2 people declare they dont like or question something... and they get accused of trolling or banned. There needs to be a middle ground Lots of people saying how they don't like the possible new Nick Walker print, and the new Bast French Kiss print with no problems Its when you get people who are abusive, or aggressively battling with people who don't agree with them. What you call "Middle Ground" is a big grey area that I think this forum gets it right more than most.
here, here!
I fully agree, which is why its dissapointing when more than 2 people declare they dont like or question something... and they get accused of trolling or banned. There needs to be a middle ground Lots of people saying how they don't like the possible new Nick Walker print, and the new Bast French Kiss print with no problems Its when you get people who are abusive, or aggressively battling with people who don't agree with them. What you call "Middle Ground" is a big grey area that I think this forum gets it right more than most. here, here! |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by alexnh123 on Oct 1, 2010 16:05:17 GMT 1, like I say we can all say was art is/is not even if we don't know exactly why something is art, the question is, is it good art or bad art. Duchamp successfully redefined what art could be many years ago. The K foundation made an interesting point about art and money in one of the greatest avant guard acts of art in the last 50 years. If you can find it look for both the documentaries by the KFoundation burning their million Β£ and also Tony Kay's transition from advertising guru to artist, where he investigates what suddenly makes him an artisit and what art can be.
thanks for this stickitup, will look into.
like I say we can all say was art is/is not even if we don't know exactly why something is art, the question is, is it good art or bad art. Duchamp successfully redefined what art could be many years ago. The K foundation made an interesting point about art and money in one of the greatest avant guard acts of art in the last 50 years. If you can find it look for both the documentaries by the KFoundation burning their million Β£ and also Tony Kay's transition from advertising guru to artist, where he investigates what suddenly makes him an artisit and what art can be. thanks for this stickitup, will look into. |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Daniel Silk on Oct 1, 2010 16:24:14 GMT 1, To be happy in life its worth remembering that its very unlikely that a group of people will agree 100% on anything, and thats a healthy thing!
Don't expect your opinion to be liked by everyone, and don't expect to like everyones opinion
Don't expect people to like the art you like, Don't expect people to not like that art you don't like Respect peoples opinions, and don't expect them to change to suit yours.
I run this forum how I think is best its impossible to do it how everyone wants, coz you all have different opinions. If your one of the ones who doesn't like it, then I'm sorry 
As it says in my profile -
"It is better to displease the people by doing what you know is right, than to temporarily please them by doing what you know is wrong"
To be happy in life its worth remembering that its very unlikely that a group of people will agree 100% on anything, and thats a healthy thing! Don't expect your opinion to be liked by everyone, and don't expect to like everyones opinion Don't expect people to like the art you like, Don't expect people to not like that art you don't like Respect peoples opinions, and don't expect them to change to suit yours. I run this forum how I think is best its impossible to do it how everyone wants, coz you all have different opinions. If your one of the ones who doesn't like it, then I'm sorry As it says in my profile - "It is better to displease the people by doing what you know is right, than to temporarily please them by doing what you know is wrong" |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by BK83 on Oct 1, 2010 16:45:37 GMT 1, This new stuff from Robbo leaves much to be desired.
Not all art is pictures on walls (no pun intended. LOL), I think that is forgotten too often on this forum. Robbo best art can't necessarily transfer into a gallery. His art is about process, it is more conceptual in nature. The simple act of his relentless 'getting up' (even if it is just to destroy Banksy's now) is an act of art itself. Much in the same way Tox, Neckface, Adek, the list goes on, are magnificently tiresome in their efforts to bomb city's and get up everywhere!
For me. I don't see these street writers as any more, or any less, than what is going on in a gallery. I love looking at a Neckface tag in an absolutely absurd place high above the skyline in manhattan, or an adek piece that is so big and precise and in the middle of a crowded intersection.
Fair play to Charlie for putting on this show. Robbo would not have agreed if he didn't want to do it either. But I truly don't think all artists need a gallery to exhibit the best of their work. The best of Robbo's is in situ on the street.
This new stuff from Robbo leaves much to be desired.
Not all art is pictures on walls (no pun intended. LOL), I think that is forgotten too often on this forum. Robbo best art can't necessarily transfer into a gallery. His art is about process, it is more conceptual in nature. The simple act of his relentless 'getting up' (even if it is just to destroy Banksy's now) is an act of art itself. Much in the same way Tox, Neckface, Adek, the list goes on, are magnificently tiresome in their efforts to bomb city's and get up everywhere!
For me. I don't see these street writers as any more, or any less, than what is going on in a gallery. I love looking at a Neckface tag in an absolutely absurd place high above the skyline in manhattan, or an adek piece that is so big and precise and in the middle of a crowded intersection.
Fair play to Charlie for putting on this show. Robbo would not have agreed if he didn't want to do it either. But I truly don't think all artists need a gallery to exhibit the best of their work. The best of Robbo's is in situ on the street.
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by sixftjellybaby on Oct 1, 2010 17:57:49 GMT 1, This new stuff from Robbo leaves much to be desired. Not all art is pictures on walls (no pun intended. LOL), I think that is forgotten too often on this forum. Robbo best art can't necessarily transfer into a gallery. His art is about process, it is more conceptual in nature. The simple act of his relentless 'getting up' (even if it is just to destroy Banksy's now) is an act of art itself. Much in the same way Tox, Neckface, Adek, the list goes on, are magnificently tiresome in their efforts to bomb city's and get up everywhere! For me. I don't see these street writers as any more, or any less, than what is going on in a gallery. I love looking at a Neckface tag in an absolutely absurd place high above the skyline in manhattan, or an adek piece that is so big and precise and in the middle of a crowded intersection. Fair play to Charlie for putting on this show. Robbo would not have agreed if he didn't want to do it either. But I truly don't think all artists need a gallery to exhibit the best of their work. The best of Robbo's is in situ on the street.
spot on
This new stuff from Robbo leaves much to be desired. Not all art is pictures on walls (no pun intended. LOL), I think that is forgotten too often on this forum. Robbo best art can't necessarily transfer into a gallery. His art is about process, it is more conceptual in nature. The simple act of his relentless 'getting up' (even if it is just to destroy Banksy's now) is an act of art itself. Much in the same way Tox, Neckface, Adek, the list goes on, are magnificently tiresome in their efforts to bomb city's and get up everywhere! For me. I don't see these street writers as any more, or any less, than what is going on in a gallery. I love looking at a Neckface tag in an absolutely absurd place high above the skyline in manhattan, or an adek piece that is so big and precise and in the middle of a crowded intersection. Fair play to Charlie for putting on this show. Robbo would not have agreed if he didn't want to do it either. But I truly don't think all artists need a gallery to exhibit the best of their work. The best of Robbo's is in situ on the street. spot on |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by stickitup on Oct 1, 2010 21:36:26 GMT 1, like I say we can all say was art is/is not even if we don't know exactly why something is art, the question is, is it good art or bad art. Duchamp successfully redefined what art could be many years ago. The K foundation made an interesting point about art and money in one of the greatest avant guard acts of art in the last 50 years. If you can find it look for both the documentaries by the KFoundation burning their million Β£ and also Tony Kay's transition from advertising guru to artist, where he investigates what suddenly makes him an artisit and what art can be. thanks for this stickitup, will look into.
they are both a few years old maybe 10 years+ but were shown on terrestrial tv (BBC, ITV,or CH4) the Tony Kay one has a couple of amusing bits where he contemplates walking into a gallery and $hitting on the floor as an act of art. I think I videoed them but transferring videos to dvd is something I am not able to do unfortunately.
like I say we can all say was art is/is not even if we don't know exactly why something is art, the question is, is it good art or bad art. Duchamp successfully redefined what art could be many years ago. The K foundation made an interesting point about art and money in one of the greatest avant guard acts of art in the last 50 years. If you can find it look for both the documentaries by the KFoundation burning their million Β£ and also Tony Kay's transition from advertising guru to artist, where he investigates what suddenly makes him an artisit and what art can be. thanks for this stickitup, will look into. they are both a few years old maybe 10 years+ but were shown on terrestrial tv (BBC, ITV,or CH4) the Tony Kay one has a couple of amusing bits where he contemplates walking into a gallery and $hitting on the floor as an act of art. I think I videoed them but transferring videos to dvd is something I am not able to do unfortunately. |
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by curiousgeorge on Oct 1, 2010 23:38:25 GMT 1,
It's late, follow the vids for the other parts
It's late, follow the vids for the other parts
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by aj2010 on Oct 2, 2010 5:48:03 GMT 1, Whatever the reason for this show, he is still cashing in on his spat with Banksy.
Whatever the reason for this show, he is still cashing in on his spat with Banksy.
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Pure Evil on Oct 2, 2010 17:54:35 GMT 1, yep
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by otomi on Oct 2, 2010 19:03:23 GMT 1, still looks like a frog to me
still looks like a frog to me
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2010 19:04:46 GMT 1, yep
No No No Charles
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King ROBBO π¬π§ Banksy v King Robbo β’ Street Art, by Warm Gun on Oct 2, 2010 19:58:36 GMT 1, Talking about the k-foundation.....
I've read various articles from different journalists that the act of burning that one million quid actually earned them four times that in publicity and sales etc. Maybe it was a pre-planned and very well thought out act that they knew thay could profit from rather than the act of 'art' which it was promoted as.
Talking about the k-foundation.....
I've read various articles from different journalists that the act of burning that one million quid actually earned them four times that in publicity and sales etc. Maybe it was a pre-planned and very well thought out act that they knew thay could profit from rather than the act of 'art' which it was promoted as.
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hmmmmm are they havin a laugh!
that doesn't mean somebody might really love a piece of this work, and enjoy it on display in their home for years to come 
