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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by morrow on Dec 20, 2010 18:48:21 GMT 1, No, not anywhere near NYC.
Zaphia, thanks for rubbing it in hahaha...
No, not anywhere near NYC. Zaphia, thanks for rubbing it in hahaha...
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by gwenie on Dec 20, 2010 19:34:35 GMT 1, Quite hilarious. Before M&S pretty much no one knew who Dran was!! Yet another bit of PoW hype for the sheeple. You have to take your hat off to them.
Agree to some degree. I was suprised how many people were in the queue on Saturday.
On the plus side, most people really like his work so kudos to POW for giving him a platform. Some people had travelled an awful long way to buy the print and have the book signed. It was snowing quite heavily. Dran asked for names when he was signing the book, so I don't think you are going to see too many of these on the bay.
Quite hilarious. Before M&S pretty much no one knew who Dran was!! Yet another bit of PoW hype for the sheeple. You have to take your hat off to them. Agree to some degree. I was suprised how many people were in the queue on Saturday. On the plus side, most people really like his work so kudos to POW for giving him a platform. Some people had travelled an awful long way to buy the print and have the book signed. It was snowing quite heavily. Dran asked for names when he was signing the book, so I don't think you are going to see too many of these on the bay.
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by gibbin82 on Dec 20, 2010 19:49:43 GMT 1, It is amusing to see all the talk about POW hype, surely their job is to promote artists work, if you wish to call this sort of thing hype that is up to you. But with both POW and the artist is in their interest to promote the work, but when it comes down to it, all the hype in the world will not give an artist any sustained popularity if the work is not any good and people do not like it, so it is therefore also sensible for POW to try to select work that will be successful in the long run, in this case I believe they have made an excellent choice.
Regarding hype what do you expect POW should say, would "well we do have some of Drans work, but really it isn't very good, but if you insist we might have some in a cupboard" be an acceptable way to promote the work, or with the last Banksy print "we have a new Banksy print it is not as good or clever as most of the previous prints, but it does come in lots of pointless but different bright colours to attract your attention and it will make lots of money for you" be a good way of selling it, I think not! and I certainly dont remember I ever saw anything like "We have the new Dran prints, they are amazing, you must buy it as it is going to be bigger than Jesus and the Beatles put together!" No they put on a couple of shows and let people come and look and decide for themselves and people liked it, even then I think it even exceeded their own and Drans expectations, when I was in on Friday they said they didn't expect hardly any queueing for the release of "Learning to fly", yet when saturday came there was a very large queue in some of the worst weather we have had for 100 years. It might not be the case with everybody but there are a lot of people who really like this work and as you dig a little deeper find there is a lot more to it and it is more varied than a few cutsey cartoon drawings. I bought these prints because I like and admire the actual prints themselves, if I had managed to get the last Banksy print it would only have been because I admire Banksys other work (earlier prints and street art) and so I could actualy own a bit of his work no matter what it was or how good I thought it was.
However when it comes down to it it is no more than personal taste and I am sure there are lots of people who think Banksys last print was one of his best, although I think many of those have got caught up in the hype surrounding Banksy, which from the way I see it is much greater than anything POW could have given Dran. How many flippers bought the last Banksy judging by the amount on eBay I would say more than half of the prints sold went to resell at inflated prices, how many bought the Dran to sell on I would say a much lower proportion and would assume that they were therefore more appreciated. Also sneering at the price people are prepared to pay for the Dran prints (which were incendentally all individual pieces and different) well ยฃ460+ on eBay is possibly excessive to some for this print (and I expect it to go far higher), but it is no where near as silly as the ยฃ10,000 someone paid for the "Choose your weapon" (and this also applies most others sold between ยฃ3,500 and ยฃ8,500) they are not paying that because they love the print IMO, but due to the hype surrounding Banksy and the misplaced thought they are getting an investment, if they really like Banksys work and know much about it IMO they would have ignored this release and spent their money on a Grin Reaper, trolleys or a gangster rat, all IMO much better prints.
The real test will be in about nine months time when Drans recent releases will either be still popular and rising in value or the bottom will have completely dropped out of it and the early sellers (as this one on eBay) will have made a killing. One thing I am very sure of is that the "choose your weapon" will not be selling for anything like the prices they are at the moment.
It is amusing to see all the talk about POW hype, surely their job is to promote artists work, if you wish to call this sort of thing hype that is up to you. But with both POW and the artist is in their interest to promote the work, but when it comes down to it, all the hype in the world will not give an artist any sustained popularity if the work is not any good and people do not like it, so it is therefore also sensible for POW to try to select work that will be successful in the long run, in this case I believe they have made an excellent choice.
Regarding hype what do you expect POW should say, would "well we do have some of Drans work, but really it isn't very good, but if you insist we might have some in a cupboard" be an acceptable way to promote the work, or with the last Banksy print "we have a new Banksy print it is not as good or clever as most of the previous prints, but it does come in lots of pointless but different bright colours to attract your attention and it will make lots of money for you" be a good way of selling it, I think not! and I certainly dont remember I ever saw anything like "We have the new Dran prints, they are amazing, you must buy it as it is going to be bigger than Jesus and the Beatles put together!" No they put on a couple of shows and let people come and look and decide for themselves and people liked it, even then I think it even exceeded their own and Drans expectations, when I was in on Friday they said they didn't expect hardly any queueing for the release of "Learning to fly", yet when saturday came there was a very large queue in some of the worst weather we have had for 100 years. It might not be the case with everybody but there are a lot of people who really like this work and as you dig a little deeper find there is a lot more to it and it is more varied than a few cutsey cartoon drawings. I bought these prints because I like and admire the actual prints themselves, if I had managed to get the last Banksy print it would only have been because I admire Banksys other work (earlier prints and street art) and so I could actualy own a bit of his work no matter what it was or how good I thought it was.
However when it comes down to it it is no more than personal taste and I am sure there are lots of people who think Banksys last print was one of his best, although I think many of those have got caught up in the hype surrounding Banksy, which from the way I see it is much greater than anything POW could have given Dran. How many flippers bought the last Banksy judging by the amount on eBay I would say more than half of the prints sold went to resell at inflated prices, how many bought the Dran to sell on I would say a much lower proportion and would assume that they were therefore more appreciated. Also sneering at the price people are prepared to pay for the Dran prints (which were incendentally all individual pieces and different) well ยฃ460+ on eBay is possibly excessive to some for this print (and I expect it to go far higher), but it is no where near as silly as the ยฃ10,000 someone paid for the "Choose your weapon" (and this also applies most others sold between ยฃ3,500 and ยฃ8,500) they are not paying that because they love the print IMO, but due to the hype surrounding Banksy and the misplaced thought they are getting an investment, if they really like Banksys work and know much about it IMO they would have ignored this release and spent their money on a Grin Reaper, trolleys or a gangster rat, all IMO much better prints.
The real test will be in about nine months time when Drans recent releases will either be still popular and rising in value or the bottom will have completely dropped out of it and the early sellers (as this one on eBay) will have made a killing. One thing I am very sure of is that the "choose your weapon" will not be selling for anything like the prices they are at the moment.
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by bullet on Dec 20, 2010 20:11:54 GMT 1, It is amusing to see all the talk about POW hype, surely their job is to promote artists work, if you wish to call this sort of thing hype that is up to you. But with both POW and the artist is in their interest to promote the work, but when it comes down to it, all the hype in the world will not give an artist any sustained popularity if the work is not any good and people do not like it, so it is therefore also sensible for POW to try to select work that will be successful in the long run, in this case I believe they have made an excellent choice. Regarding hype what do you expect POW should say, would "well we do have some of Drans work, but really it isn't very good, but if you insist we might have some in a cupboard" be an acceptable way to promote the work, or with the last Banksy print "we have a new Banksy print it is not as good or clever as most of the previous prints, but it does come in lots of pointless but different bright colours to attract your attention and it will make lots of money for you" be a good way of selling it, I think not! and I certainly dont remember I ever saw anything like "We have the new Dran prints, they are amazing, you must buy it as it is going to be bigger than Jesus and the Beatles put together!" No they put on a couple of shows and let people come and look and decide for themselves and people liked it, even then I think it even exceeded their own and Drans expectations, when I was in on Friday they said they didn't expect hardly any queueing for the release of "Learning to fly", yet when saturday came there was a very large queue in some of the worst weather we have had for 100 years. It might not be the case with everybody but there are a lot of people who really like this work and as you dig a little deeper find there is a lot more to it and it is more varied than a few cutsey cartoon drawings. I bought these prints because I like and admire the actual prints themselves, if I had managed to get the last Banksy print it would only have been because I admire Banksys other work (earlier prints and street art) and so I could actualy own a bit of his work no matter what it was or how good I thought it was. However when it comes down to it it is no more than personal taste and I am sure there are lots of people who think Banksys last print was one of his best, although I think many of those have got caught up in the hype surrounding Banksy, which from the way I see it is much greater than anything POW could have given Dran. How many flippers bought the last Banksy judging by the amount on eBay I would say more than half of the prints sold went to resell at inflated prices, how many bought the Dran to sell on I would say a much lower proportion and would assume that they were therefore more appreciated. Also sneering at the price people are prepared to pay for the Dran prints (which were incendentally all individual pieces and different) well ยฃ460+ on eBay is possibly excessive to some for this print (and I expect it to go far higher), but it is no where near as silly as the ยฃ10,000 someone paid for the "Choose your weapon" (and this also applies most others sold between ยฃ3,500 and ยฃ8,500) they are not paying that because they love the print IMO, but due to the hype surrounding Banksy and the misplaced thought they are getting an investment, if they really like Banksys work and know much about it IMO they would have ignored this release and spent their money on a Grin Reaper, trolleys or a gangster rat, all IMO much better prints. The real test will be in about nine months time when Drans recent releases will either be still popular and rising in value or the bottom will have completely dropped out of it and the early sellers (as this one on eBay) will have made a killing. One thing I am very sure of is that the "choose your weapon" will not be selling for anything like the prices they are at the moment.
Indeed, people get hype confused with publicity. If it was not publicised then the people calling it hype would not even know about it.
Swings and roundabouts.
A mental note is being made about all this cyw price chat.
It might be quite funny come spring...
It is amusing to see all the talk about POW hype, surely their job is to promote artists work, if you wish to call this sort of thing hype that is up to you. But with both POW and the artist is in their interest to promote the work, but when it comes down to it, all the hype in the world will not give an artist any sustained popularity if the work is not any good and people do not like it, so it is therefore also sensible for POW to try to select work that will be successful in the long run, in this case I believe they have made an excellent choice. Regarding hype what do you expect POW should say, would "well we do have some of Drans work, but really it isn't very good, but if you insist we might have some in a cupboard" be an acceptable way to promote the work, or with the last Banksy print "we have a new Banksy print it is not as good or clever as most of the previous prints, but it does come in lots of pointless but different bright colours to attract your attention and it will make lots of money for you" be a good way of selling it, I think not! and I certainly dont remember I ever saw anything like "We have the new Dran prints, they are amazing, you must buy it as it is going to be bigger than Jesus and the Beatles put together!" No they put on a couple of shows and let people come and look and decide for themselves and people liked it, even then I think it even exceeded their own and Drans expectations, when I was in on Friday they said they didn't expect hardly any queueing for the release of "Learning to fly", yet when saturday came there was a very large queue in some of the worst weather we have had for 100 years. It might not be the case with everybody but there are a lot of people who really like this work and as you dig a little deeper find there is a lot more to it and it is more varied than a few cutsey cartoon drawings. I bought these prints because I like and admire the actual prints themselves, if I had managed to get the last Banksy print it would only have been because I admire Banksys other work (earlier prints and street art) and so I could actualy own a bit of his work no matter what it was or how good I thought it was. However when it comes down to it it is no more than personal taste and I am sure there are lots of people who think Banksys last print was one of his best, although I think many of those have got caught up in the hype surrounding Banksy, which from the way I see it is much greater than anything POW could have given Dran. How many flippers bought the last Banksy judging by the amount on eBay I would say more than half of the prints sold went to resell at inflated prices, how many bought the Dran to sell on I would say a much lower proportion and would assume that they were therefore more appreciated. Also sneering at the price people are prepared to pay for the Dran prints (which were incendentally all individual pieces and different) well ยฃ460+ on eBay is possibly excessive to some for this print (and I expect it to go far higher), but it is no where near as silly as the ยฃ10,000 someone paid for the "Choose your weapon" (and this also applies most others sold between ยฃ3,500 and ยฃ8,500) they are not paying that because they love the print IMO, but due to the hype surrounding Banksy and the misplaced thought they are getting an investment, if they really like Banksys work and know much about it IMO they would have ignored this release and spent their money on a Grin Reaper, trolleys or a gangster rat, all IMO much better prints. The real test will be in about nine months time when Drans recent releases will either be still popular and rising in value or the bottom will have completely dropped out of it and the early sellers (as this one on eBay) will have made a killing. One thing I am very sure of is that the "choose your weapon" will not be selling for anything like the prices they are at the moment. Indeed, people get hype confused with publicity. If it was not publicised then the people calling it hype would not even know about it. Swings and roundabouts. A mental note is being made about all this cyw price chat. It might be quite funny come spring...
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by v3rm33r on Dec 20, 2010 20:17:53 GMT 1, Dran has been around for some time, he is not new to the scene so do not believe this is all hype. DMV crew has been smashing it for a while now and glad he is getting the recognition he deserves. Looking forward to POW working with some of the other members (come on POW and get Bom K on your books!)
Dran has been around for some time, he is not new to the scene so do not believe this is all hype. DMV crew has been smashing it for a while now and glad he is getting the recognition he deserves. Looking forward to POW working with some of the other members (come on POW and get Bom K on your books!)
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The popularity/gulability (Delete as you see fit) is even catching out the flippers, a colour "Learning to fly" for ยฃ590 and a signed book for almost ยฃ100 both selling as Buy it Now's within a few minutes of being listed.
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by robinbanks on Dec 20, 2010 20:37:24 GMT 1, It is amusing to see all the talk about POW hype, surely their job is to promote artists work, if you wish to call this sort of thing hype that is up to you. But with both POW and the artist is in their interest to promote the work, but when it comes down to it, all the hype in the world will not give an artist any sustained popularity if the work is not any good and people do not like it, so it is therefore also sensible for POW to try to select work that will be successful in the long run, in this case I believe they have made an excellent choice. Regarding hype what do you expect POW should say, would "well we do have some of Drans work, but really it isn't very good, but if you insist we might have some in a cupboard" be an acceptable way to promote the work, or with the last Banksy print "we have a new Banksy print it is not as good or clever as most of the previous prints, but it does come in lots of pointless but different bright colours to attract your attention and it will make lots of money for you" be a good way of selling it, I think not! and I certainly dont remember I ever saw anything like "We have the new Dran prints, they are amazing, you must buy it as it is going to be bigger than Jesus and the Beatles put together!" No they put on a couple of shows and let people come and look and decide for themselves and people liked it, even then I think it even exceeded their own and Drans expectations, when I was in on Friday they said they didn't expect hardly any queueing for the release of "Learning to fly", yet when saturday came there was a very large queue in some of the worst weather we have had for 100 years. It might not be the case with everybody but there are a lot of people who really like this work and as you dig a little deeper find there is a lot more to it and it is more varied than a few cutsey cartoon drawings. I bought these prints because I like and admire the actual prints themselves, if I had managed to get the last Banksy print it would only have been because I admire Banksys other work (earlier prints and street art) and so I could actualy own a bit of his work no matter what it was or how good I thought it was. However when it comes down to it it is no more than personal taste and I am sure there are lots of people who think Banksys last print was one of his best, although I think many of those have got caught up in the hype surrounding Banksy, which from the way I see it is much greater than anything POW could have given Dran. How many flippers bought the last Banksy judging by the amount on eBay I would say more than half of the prints sold went to resell at inflated prices, how many bought the Dran to sell on I would say a much lower proportion and would assume that they were therefore more appreciated. Also sneering at the price people are prepared to pay for the Dran prints (which were incendentally all individual pieces and different) well ยฃ460+ on eBay is possibly excessive to some for this print (and I expect it to go far higher), but it is no where near as silly as the ยฃ10,000 someone paid for the "Choose your weapon" (and this also applies most others sold between ยฃ3,500 and ยฃ8,500) they are not paying that because they love the print IMO, but due to the hype surrounding Banksy and the misplaced thought they are getting an investment, if they really like Banksys work and know much about it IMO they would have ignored this release and spent their money on a Grin Reaper, trolleys or a gangster rat, all IMO much better prints. The real test will be in about nine months time when Drans recent releases will either be still popular and rising in value or the bottom will have completely dropped out of it and the early sellers (as this one on eBay) will have made a killing. One thing I am very sure of is that the "choose your weapon" will not be selling for anything like the prices they are at the moment. Indeed, people get hype confused with publicity. If it was not publicised then the people calling it hype would not even know about it. Swings and roundabouts. A mental note is being made about all this cyw price chat. It might be quite funny come spring...
Why, is that when you're selling yours?
It is amusing to see all the talk about POW hype, surely their job is to promote artists work, if you wish to call this sort of thing hype that is up to you. But with both POW and the artist is in their interest to promote the work, but when it comes down to it, all the hype in the world will not give an artist any sustained popularity if the work is not any good and people do not like it, so it is therefore also sensible for POW to try to select work that will be successful in the long run, in this case I believe they have made an excellent choice. Regarding hype what do you expect POW should say, would "well we do have some of Drans work, but really it isn't very good, but if you insist we might have some in a cupboard" be an acceptable way to promote the work, or with the last Banksy print "we have a new Banksy print it is not as good or clever as most of the previous prints, but it does come in lots of pointless but different bright colours to attract your attention and it will make lots of money for you" be a good way of selling it, I think not! and I certainly dont remember I ever saw anything like "We have the new Dran prints, they are amazing, you must buy it as it is going to be bigger than Jesus and the Beatles put together!" No they put on a couple of shows and let people come and look and decide for themselves and people liked it, even then I think it even exceeded their own and Drans expectations, when I was in on Friday they said they didn't expect hardly any queueing for the release of "Learning to fly", yet when saturday came there was a very large queue in some of the worst weather we have had for 100 years. It might not be the case with everybody but there are a lot of people who really like this work and as you dig a little deeper find there is a lot more to it and it is more varied than a few cutsey cartoon drawings. I bought these prints because I like and admire the actual prints themselves, if I had managed to get the last Banksy print it would only have been because I admire Banksys other work (earlier prints and street art) and so I could actualy own a bit of his work no matter what it was or how good I thought it was. However when it comes down to it it is no more than personal taste and I am sure there are lots of people who think Banksys last print was one of his best, although I think many of those have got caught up in the hype surrounding Banksy, which from the way I see it is much greater than anything POW could have given Dran. How many flippers bought the last Banksy judging by the amount on eBay I would say more than half of the prints sold went to resell at inflated prices, how many bought the Dran to sell on I would say a much lower proportion and would assume that they were therefore more appreciated. Also sneering at the price people are prepared to pay for the Dran prints (which were incendentally all individual pieces and different) well ยฃ460+ on eBay is possibly excessive to some for this print (and I expect it to go far higher), but it is no where near as silly as the ยฃ10,000 someone paid for the "Choose your weapon" (and this also applies most others sold between ยฃ3,500 and ยฃ8,500) they are not paying that because they love the print IMO, but due to the hype surrounding Banksy and the misplaced thought they are getting an investment, if they really like Banksys work and know much about it IMO they would have ignored this release and spent their money on a Grin Reaper, trolleys or a gangster rat, all IMO much better prints. The real test will be in about nine months time when Drans recent releases will either be still popular and rising in value or the bottom will have completely dropped out of it and the early sellers (as this one on eBay) will have made a killing. One thing I am very sure of is that the "choose your weapon" will not be selling for anything like the prices they are at the moment. Indeed, people get hype confused with publicity. If it was not publicised then the people calling it hype would not even know about it. Swings and roundabouts. A mental note is being made about all this cyw price chat. It might be quite funny come spring...Why, is that when you're selling yours?
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by gwenie on Dec 20, 2010 20:46:52 GMT 1, A mental note is being made about all this cyw price chat. It might be quite funny come spring...Why, is that when you're selling yours?
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A mental note is being made about all this cyw price chat. It might be quite funny come spring...Why, is that when you're selling yours? ;D
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by bullet on Dec 20, 2010 21:31:51 GMT 1, Why, is that when you're selling yours? ;D
If i had one i would not sell it, although a blue one would go well with the very little helps.
Its just that time of year people wil realise all the colours will be snapped up and will only have orange left to buy...
It does not take a genius to work out that 25 prints (and may i add only 21 of those were to the public from each colour) will not last very long once they get into the right hands.. And half probably already have. So with that in mind, there might be about 10 of each available between now and spring i guess. Maybe a few more greys and as for the warm grey.. I would say not many. But lets seeeeeee.....
Why, is that when you're selling yours? ;D If i had one i would not sell it, although a blue one would go well with the very little helps. Its just that time of year people wil realise all the colours will be snapped up and will only have orange left to buy... It does not take a genius to work out that 25 prints (and may i add only 21 of those were to the public from each colour) will not last very long once they get into the right hands.. And half probably already have. So with that in mind, there might be about 10 of each available between now and spring i guess. Maybe a few more greys and as for the warm grey.. I would say not many. But lets seeeeeee.....
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2010 21:31:59 GMT 1, The popularity/gulability (Delete as you see fit) is even catching out the flippers, a colour "Learning to fly" for ยฃ590 and a signed book for almost ยฃ100 both selling as Buy it Now's within a few minutes of being listed.
I wouldn't say that even if these sales are genuine (?) that the 'flippers' are being caught out? How can a return on capital of almost 300% in less than a week be regarded as such.
The hype continues whilst the promotion has stopped, this thread amuses me as I do not own one (and at this price do not wish to) the POW offering (as before) making perfect comparable sense.
Gibbon, 35 odd posts since mid 2008 and all of a sudden you're on fire...why the break?
The popularity/gulability (Delete as you see fit) is even catching out the flippers, a colour "Learning to fly" for ยฃ590 and a signed book for almost ยฃ100 both selling as Buy it Now's within a few minutes of being listed. I wouldn't say that even if these sales are genuine (?) that the 'flippers' are being caught out? How can a return on capital of almost 300% in less than a week be regarded as such. The hype continues whilst the promotion has stopped, this thread amuses me as I do not own one (and at this price do not wish to) the POW offering (as before) making perfect comparable sense. Gibbon, 35 odd posts since mid 2008 and all of a sudden you're on fire...why the break?
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by gibbin82 on Dec 20, 2010 22:33:59 GMT 1, It is true that the flippers have made an incredible profit, but for them to sell within minutes of being listed seems to me that even they, as everyone else, underestimated the popularity of these prints and must be left wishing they had tried for a bit (maybe a lot) more.
Re: the lack of posts, well I have had an interest in Banksy for a long time and would have liked to have owned an example for as long, but the difference now is that these Drans reallly fired my interest and I didn't just like to have one, it was more I had to have one (or some). They say you should buy what you like and these are what I like. I know there is a lot of lurkers on here just waiting for Banksy prints, I suppose in a way was a lurker but in my case it was to wait for something that really did it for me.
It is true that the flippers have made an incredible profit, but for them to sell within minutes of being listed seems to me that even they, as everyone else, underestimated the popularity of these prints and must be left wishing they had tried for a bit (maybe a lot) more.
Re: the lack of posts, well I have had an interest in Banksy for a long time and would have liked to have owned an example for as long, but the difference now is that these Drans reallly fired my interest and I didn't just like to have one, it was more I had to have one (or some). They say you should buy what you like and these are what I like. I know there is a lot of lurkers on here just waiting for Banksy prints, I suppose in a way was a lurker but in my case it was to wait for something that really did it for me.
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by pinballwizard on Dec 20, 2010 22:49:43 GMT 1, I can understand the have to have on this print.. Stunning, and a lot nicer than some out now, a huge fan of the antique Newspaper too!
I can understand the have to have on this print.. Stunning, and a lot nicer than some out now, a huge fan of the antique Newspaper too!
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2010 22:51:02 GMT 1, Fair enough and I guess it's great that you've found something that pushed your buttons as much as these do.....
Jury's out as to how these will hold up over time - I truly hope they continue to appreciate.
Fair enough and I guess it's great that you've found something that pushed your buttons as much as these do.....
Jury's out as to how these will hold up over time - I truly hope they continue to appreciate.
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by londonbridges1 on Dec 21, 2010 8:04:05 GMT 1, Sorry for no help Sir, But As everyone has said... The news said "dont go out unless you have too," wait outside for 2 hours to get the print, some people didnt even get one after the wait. They got to meet dran though. This Print is going to valued much higher than exhibit for this reason alone. Not to mention that I agree that this is a Damn cool print. Cheers
Sorry for no help Sir, But As everyone has said... The news said "dont go out unless you have too," wait outside for 2 hours to get the print, some people didnt even get one after the wait. They got to meet dran though. This Print is going to valued much higher than exhibit for this reason alone. Not to mention that I agree that this is a Damn cool print. Cheers
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by idris on Dec 21, 2010 12:59:40 GMT 1, There's 3/4 on fleabay . asking price i about ยฃ500 ish
There's 3/4 on fleabay . asking price i about ยฃ500 ish
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by alistairkhalil on Dec 21, 2010 13:04:53 GMT 1, ยฃ620.00 current bid. I hate flippers!!
ยฃ620.00 current bid. I hate flippers!!
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by idris on Dec 21, 2010 13:06:56 GMT 1, 2 being offered at circa ยฃ500 with a 'best offer'
Would love one of these and tbh if the going rate is ยฃ400 ish or ยฃ450 ish well worth it I think ... it's for keeps! Just need my money tree to start growing some .... money : ))
2 being offered at circa ยฃ500 with a 'best offer'
Would love one of these and tbh if the going rate is ยฃ400 ish or ยฃ450 ish well worth it I think ... it's for keeps! Just need my money tree to start growing some .... money : ))
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by OutsideIn on Dec 21, 2010 13:10:20 GMT 1, unreal
unreal
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Um how do I say this politely but FXXK YOU!! That ain't me I'm afraid! My Ebay account is Tonysantos2000 You'll see from my history I don't really sell anything, instead buy DVDs and Transformers ha ha ha! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Apologies if this wasn't you - I stand corrected.
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by rinaceirde on Dec 21, 2010 17:46:04 GMT 1, Fllippers with a conscience come forth see the light and seek redemption!
Fllippers with a conscience come forth see the light and seek redemption!
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by stopki on Dec 21, 2010 17:56:50 GMT 1, the price has now gone down... shill bidding i think...
the price has now gone down... shill bidding i think...
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by pinballwizard on Dec 21, 2010 18:31:39 GMT 1, I had an agreement with the 500 one on an offers and someone poached me with buy it now. Damn
I had an agreement with the 500 one on an offers and someone poached me with buy it now. Damn
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by kennas on Dec 21, 2010 19:03:12 GMT 1, the price has now gone down... shill bidding i think...
Ridiculously strange/transparent bidding patterns!
the price has now gone down... shill bidding i think... Ridiculously strange/transparent bidding patterns!
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by gibbin82 on Dec 21, 2010 19:41:32 GMT 1, Although I really like the "Learning to fly" prints I can't believe there is there is such a demand for this print, when the "I have chalks" prints are still available from POW. Maybe it is the small run of 50 of coloured prints that is responsible, compared to the 100 "I have chalks" prints, but as far as I am concerned the "I have chalks" is the better of the two. If you put the two side by side you have a huge 800mm x 570mm for the chalks vs 320mm x 400mm for the "learning to fly". Print wise the chalks is a far more detailed image over the""learning to fly". But IMO what really makes the chalks the better peice over the "learning to fly" is that where the "learning to fly" is essentially the same screen printed image only, differing from each other by hand applied colouring (which does actually vary in shade and colour for each print), printed on archive news paper some quite old and interesting (complimentary) and some not so old or as interesting (front pages with pictures from the 1930's compared to adverts or TV listings from the 1960's). With the chalks you get an interesting print but you also get a unique hand drawing on the wall that is over 50% of the actual complete image, each one is quite different and applied by Dran by hand with chalks, inks, paints etc. With the Chalks you are getting a completely unique original artists work only related to the others by the printed part of the image and name, where the "learning to fly" is one of a 50 (or 150 if you include the b&w). Normally given the choice I would expect most people would choose an original arists work over one of a series of prints, I know if it was me the original would be the preffered option with any artist when the quality of the work is as good as it is in this case.
As it is it is going to be very difficult to find a reasonable "Learning to Fly" as most who bought them have got them to keep and the flippers are going to get quite a lot for the ones they have such is the current demand, so for anyone who is desperate to get their hands on a Dran and it hasn't just got to be "learning to fly" or nothing else, I suggest you contact dora@picturesonwalls.com regarding the availability of an unframed chalks print (ยฃ400 + vat) which I believe they will post. I have attached pictures of the remaining unframed prints below (as Friday 17th December so some of these may now be gone), there is also a few framed prints (ยฃ500 + vat but these are collection from POW only.
Cheers, John
Although I really like the "Learning to fly" prints I can't believe there is there is such a demand for this print, when the "I have chalks" prints are still available from POW. Maybe it is the small run of 50 of coloured prints that is responsible, compared to the 100 "I have chalks" prints, but as far as I am concerned the "I have chalks" is the better of the two. If you put the two side by side you have a huge 800mm x 570mm for the chalks vs 320mm x 400mm for the "learning to fly". Print wise the chalks is a far more detailed image over the""learning to fly". But IMO what really makes the chalks the better peice over the "learning to fly" is that where the "learning to fly" is essentially the same screen printed image only, differing from each other by hand applied colouring (which does actually vary in shade and colour for each print), printed on archive news paper some quite old and interesting (complimentary) and some not so old or as interesting (front pages with pictures from the 1930's compared to adverts or TV listings from the 1960's). With the chalks you get an interesting print but you also get a unique hand drawing on the wall that is over 50% of the actual complete image, each one is quite different and applied by Dran by hand with chalks, inks, paints etc. With the Chalks you are getting a completely unique original artists work only related to the others by the printed part of the image and name, where the "learning to fly" is one of a 50 (or 150 if you include the b&w). Normally given the choice I would expect most people would choose an original arists work over one of a series of prints, I know if it was me the original would be the preffered option with any artist when the quality of the work is as good as it is in this case. As it is it is going to be very difficult to find a reasonable "Learning to Fly" as most who bought them have got them to keep and the flippers are going to get quite a lot for the ones they have such is the current demand, so for anyone who is desperate to get their hands on a Dran and it hasn't just got to be "learning to fly" or nothing else, I suggest you contact dora@picturesonwalls.com regarding the availability of an unframed chalks print (ยฃ400 + vat) which I believe they will post. I have attached pictures of the remaining unframed prints below (as Friday 17th December so some of these may now be gone), there is also a few framed prints (ยฃ500 + vat but these are collection from POW only. Cheers, John
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by speebe on Dec 21, 2010 20:09:46 GMT 1,
Get in............
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by speebe on Dec 21, 2010 20:22:49 GMT 1,
Obviously I didn't win but to be shortlisted twice is cool.
Although the winning entry illustrates they wanted something quite abstract...
Obviously I didn't win but to be shortlisted twice is cool. Although the winning entry illustrates they wanted something quite abstract...
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by supercockle on Dec 21, 2010 20:33:38 GMT 1, Well done Speebe on your double recognition.
Well done Speebe on your double recognition.
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Dran โข Learning To Fly, by fingerz on Dec 21, 2010 20:43:39 GMT 1, i thought the winner was mine for a second , i got the little 1 to do mine with his crayons ...lol... well done speebe ...
i thought the winner was mine for a second , i got the little 1 to do mine with his crayons ...lol... well done speebe ...
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