johnnyh
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by johnnyh on Aug 4, 2013 9:19:40 GMT 1, What is important here though is that the frame is pretty much irrelevant to the value. It's base cost at most normally selling art framed one would rarely expect to get back all the frame costs. Take any print to Mr Frameman and he will do a similar or the same for the same cost. So it's value MFM costs at max IMO It's value is the cost of this print taking in to account its conditio (Making no comment on that as have no idea) plus a bit for the frame.
The framing does not increase its true value as a print.I
What is important here though is that the frame is pretty much irrelevant to the value. It's base cost at most normally selling art framed one would rarely expect to get back all the frame costs. Take any print to Mr Frameman and he will do a similar or the same for the same cost. So it's value MFM costs at max IMO It's value is the cost of this print taking in to account its conditio (Making no comment on that as have no idea) plus a bit for the frame.
The framing does not increase its true value as a print.I
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Gunny
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Gunny on Aug 4, 2013 9:23:44 GMT 1, What is important here though is that the frame is pretty much irrelevant to the value. It's base cost at most normally selling art framed one would rarely expect to get back all the frame costs. Take any print to Mr Frameman and he will do a similar or the same for the same cost. So it's value MFM costs at max IMO It's value is the cost of this print taking in to account its conditio (Making no comment on that as have no idea) plus a bit for the frame. The framing does not increase its true value as a print.I well said!
What is important here though is that the frame is pretty much irrelevant to the value. It's base cost at most normally selling art framed one would rarely expect to get back all the frame costs. Take any print to Mr Frameman and he will do a similar or the same for the same cost. So it's value MFM costs at max IMO It's value is the cost of this print taking in to account its conditio (Making no comment on that as have no idea) plus a bit for the frame. The framing does not increase its true value as a print.I well said!
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mawge
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by mawge on Aug 4, 2013 9:28:14 GMT 1, at the end of the day you're buying the print not the frame however the frame does make the deal more enticing
at the end of the day you're buying the print not the frame however the frame does make the deal more enticing
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craigf
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by craigf on Aug 4, 2013 9:44:11 GMT 1, There are a lot of posts on here re this piece so I'll add an opinion of my own.
I have two pieces that have been mounted in the way this rude copper has been:
1) The first piece was sold framed by the seller who declared that it had been dry mounted due to them receiving it with some creases and deciding this was the best way of addressing this (obviously debatable). I knew what I was buying and probably picked it up for around 20% - 30% less than one that wasn't mounted. It has been on the wall for six years and the fact it is mounted has never impacted my enjoyment of the piece.
2) The second piece was also bought already professionally framed and it was only when I decided to reframe as it didn't have UV glass that I realised it was dry mounted. I was quite pissed off about this in part because I didn't know when I bought it plus I was looking to upgrade it to a signed print and it would be worth less because it was mounted. Until I realised it was mounted I had enjoyed it just as much as I would expect anyone would enjoy this particular image.
So my learning from all this is buyer beware when buying pieces that are already framed, not just due to dry mounting, but also the use of tape, non UV glass etc.
Now back to the sales thread Lobster has been completely transparent re the condition of the print, when he got it and most people will have an idea of what he paid for it. What he wants for it / what its worth is up to Lobster and potential buyers to discuss and agree. Back to Vera Lynn's post, rare as hens teeth and classic as anything!
There are a lot of posts on here re this piece so I'll add an opinion of my own.
I have two pieces that have been mounted in the way this rude copper has been:
1) The first piece was sold framed by the seller who declared that it had been dry mounted due to them receiving it with some creases and deciding this was the best way of addressing this (obviously debatable). I knew what I was buying and probably picked it up for around 20% - 30% less than one that wasn't mounted. It has been on the wall for six years and the fact it is mounted has never impacted my enjoyment of the piece.
2) The second piece was also bought already professionally framed and it was only when I decided to reframe as it didn't have UV glass that I realised it was dry mounted. I was quite pissed off about this in part because I didn't know when I bought it plus I was looking to upgrade it to a signed print and it would be worth less because it was mounted. Until I realised it was mounted I had enjoyed it just as much as I would expect anyone would enjoy this particular image.
So my learning from all this is buyer beware when buying pieces that are already framed, not just due to dry mounting, but also the use of tape, non UV glass etc.
Now back to the sales thread Lobster has been completely transparent re the condition of the print, when he got it and most people will have an idea of what he paid for it. What he wants for it / what its worth is up to Lobster and potential buyers to discuss and agree. Back to Vera Lynn's post, rare as hens teeth and classic as anything!
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gironawatch
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by gironawatch on Aug 4, 2013 10:52:14 GMT 1, love this framed!
love this framed!
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rustledust
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by rustledust on Aug 5, 2013 23:01:06 GMT 1, A very lovely frame job and an iconic image.
Depending on what you're looking for, I'd be interested in this.
A really pity about it being stuck down, but then again, I couldn't consider buying this image if it wasn't.
A very lovely frame job and an iconic image.
Depending on what you're looking for, I'd be interested in this.
A really pity about it being stuck down, but then again, I couldn't consider buying this image if it wasn't.
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 0:17:38 GMT 1, Would love one of these his second best image apart from h.m.v ......
Would love one of these his second best image apart from h.m.v ......
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 17:54:48 GMT 1, any more framed rc cheers
any more framed rc cheers
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begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by begs on Oct 26, 2013 19:36:29 GMT 1, As the title say,s please pm me ,must be A1 condition with full prov. cash waiting
As the title say,s please pm me ,must be A1 condition with full prov. cash waiting
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begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by begs on Nov 1, 2013 19:57:01 GMT 1, Hi All ,still looking
Hi All ,still looking
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pidge
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by pidge on Nov 20, 2013 10:20:07 GMT 1, Hi, looking to add to the collection, must have COA and be in very good condition please, cash waiting and can do a straight forward face to face deal...based in London but happy to travel a certain distance. PM me with what you have? Thanks
Hi, looking to add to the collection, must have COA and be in very good condition please, cash waiting and can do a straight forward face to face deal...based in London but happy to travel a certain distance. PM me with what you have? Thanks
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by andypandy007 on Dec 4, 2013 8:34:31 GMT 1, Prints below I'm selling on behalf of a friend.
Banksy Unsigned Rude Copper mint condition with pest control cert for £6500 Banksy Unsigned Flying Copper mint condition with pest control cert On Hold
Prints below I'm selling on behalf of a friend.
Banksy Unsigned Rude Copper mint condition with pest control cert for £6500 Banksy Unsigned Flying Copper mint condition with pest control cert On Hold
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begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by begs on Dec 7, 2013 11:37:35 GMT 1, Looking for a hand finished Rude Copper A1 CONDITION, POW CERT ,Please pm me ,cash waiting thanks begs
Looking for a hand finished Rude Copper A1 CONDITION, POW CERT ,Please pm me ,cash waiting thanks begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 11:38:17 GMT 1, Good luck top print !!
Good luck top print !!
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gironawatch
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Quinnster
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Quinnster on Dec 7, 2013 11:58:57 GMT 1, There are two unsigned in the For sale section
There are two unsigned in the For sale section
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Quinnster
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Quinnster on Dec 7, 2013 12:22:22 GMT 1, There are two unsigned in the For sale section
Sorry did not read hand finished....
There are two unsigned in the For sale section Sorry did not read hand finished....
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begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by begs on Dec 7, 2013 14:29:58 GMT 1, THANKS for your help, trying to get a price from dominic any body had any dealing with them ?
THANKS for your help, trying to get a price from dominic any body had any dealing with them ?
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 14:33:52 GMT 1, THANKS for your help, trying to get a price from dominic any body had any dealing with them ?
I'm sorry to disappoint you but when I enquired about it a couple of weeks ago it had already sold.
THANKS for your help, trying to get a price from dominic any body had any dealing with them ? I'm sorry to disappoint you but when I enquired about it a couple of weeks ago it had already sold.
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begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by begs on Dec 8, 2013 12:55:10 GMT 1, How much,a bit to much for my pocket. But thanks for all your help,no feedback from dominic gallery so must be sold
How much,a bit to much for my pocket. But thanks for all your help,no feedback from dominic gallery so must be sold
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Quinnster
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Quinnster on Dec 8, 2013 13:55:12 GMT 1, That's insane for a print. My local gallery had one back in the day for a grand I thought that was crazy next time I asked it was £2.5k what a bargan that was.
That's insane for a print. My local gallery had one back in the day for a grand I thought that was crazy next time I asked it was £2.5k what a bargan that was.
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 14:57:12 GMT 1, Wow!!! Huge money, but that one's got it all: stamp, sign, hand-spray....
Wow!!! Huge money, but that one's got it all: stamp, sign, hand-spray....
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Zippy
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by Zippy on Dec 9, 2013 15:05:28 GMT 1, Good luck with your search. One of the most iconic banksy images.
Good luck with your search. One of the most iconic banksy images.
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qubitz
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by qubitz on Dec 9, 2013 15:16:18 GMT 1, Wow!!! Huge money, but that one's got it all: stamp, sign, hand-spray.... Yep, it is pretty awesome. But damn, for that money you're creeping into original territory.
Wow!!! Huge money, but that one's got it all: stamp, sign, hand-spray.... Yep, it is pretty awesome. But damn, for that money you're creeping into original territory.
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by andypandy007 on Dec 9, 2013 16:06:15 GMT 1, Sorry I wouldn't say orginal territory, nowdays a average banksy canvas can set you back anything between 50k to 100k Pounds.
Sorry I wouldn't say orginal territory, nowdays a average banksy canvas can set you back anything between 50k to 100k Pounds.
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qubitz
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by qubitz on Dec 9, 2013 18:11:39 GMT 1, Sorry I wouldn't say orginal territory, nowdays a average banksy canvas can set you back anything between 50k to 100k Pounds. Agreed...but if you're going to drop 34k on a print, 50k for an original doesn't sound too far away. At least to me.
Sorry I wouldn't say orginal territory, nowdays a average banksy canvas can set you back anything between 50k to 100k Pounds. Agreed...but if you're going to drop 34k on a print, 50k for an original doesn't sound too far away. At least to me.
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begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by begs on Dec 9, 2013 20:54:10 GMT 1, To think one went for 13k in dreweatts 2009 I wonder when the bubble going to burst I think not
To think one went for 13k in dreweatts 2009 I wonder when the bubble going to burst I think not
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craigf
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by craigf on Dec 9, 2013 22:10:33 GMT 1, The one at artificial was £32k earlier in the year, I personally think its quite an ambitious price (otherwise it would have sold by now)
The one at artificial was £32k earlier in the year, I personally think its quite an ambitious price (otherwise it would have sold by now)
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begs
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Banksy • Rude Copper Print • 2003, by begs on Dec 12, 2013 18:47:52 GMT 1, still looking,if anybody thinking of selling
still looking,if anybody thinking of selling
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