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Banksy Bias?, by Daniel Silk on Jul 18, 2008 11:14:20 GMT 1, Full story here - www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080717.wrussell17/BNStory/Entertainment
Coincidentally, there has been a similar wave of vitriol toward the formerly popular bad boy of British art, the mysterious Banksy, since a newspaper reported that his real name is Robin Gunningham, that he comes from a middle-class suburban family and that he may have attended a private school. The famously anti-establishment guerrilla artist mocks the police and the art world alike, and now he has suddenly, according to the writhing tangle of idiocy that is Internet chatter, lost his credibility.
Why someone who went to a private school is not allowed to hold left-wing views is not something Banksy's detractors want to argue about; there is no argument here, just seething class hatred. In Britain, having gone to a private school is an embarrassing skeleton; it must be carefully hidden if one wants to become an artist. None of Banksy's new critics seem to find it embarrassing that they previously judged his art to be brilliant. Their about-face is perfectly reasonable to them: To discover his class impurity is to discover a lack of talent.
Full story here - www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080717.wrussell17/BNStory/EntertainmentCoincidentally, there has been a similar wave of vitriol toward the formerly popular bad boy of British art, the mysterious Banksy, since a newspaper reported that his real name is Robin Gunningham, that he comes from a middle-class suburban family and that he may have attended a private school. The famously anti-establishment guerrilla artist mocks the police and the art world alike, and now he has suddenly, according to the writhing tangle of idiocy that is Internet chatter, lost his credibility. Why someone who went to a private school is not allowed to hold left-wing views is not something Banksy's detractors want to argue about; there is no argument here, just seething class hatred. In Britain, having gone to a private school is an embarrassing skeleton; it must be carefully hidden if one wants to become an artist. None of Banksy's new critics seem to find it embarrassing that they previously judged his art to be brilliant. Their about-face is perfectly reasonable to them: To discover his class impurity is to discover a lack of talent. |
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Banksy Bias?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 18, 2008 11:19:13 GMT 1,
what a load of bollocks, why is it embarrasing to have gone to private school?? unless of course you were confessing to eating soggy bisquits.....
oh no sorry that's the army
silly snap frozen yanks
what a load of bollocks, why is it embarrasing to have gone to private school?? unless of course you were confessing to eating soggy bisquits..... oh no sorry that's the army silly snap frozen yanks |
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Banksy Bias?, by Harveyn on Jul 18, 2008 11:21:45 GMT 1, Cheers Silky for the heads up.
I have to say what complete an utter nonsense. I have not noticed any wave of vitriol on this forum.
IMO I could not care who he is and where he comes from. His art is the only thing that is important.
Cheers Silky for the heads up.
I have to say what complete an utter nonsense. I have not noticed any wave of vitriol on this forum.
IMO I could not care who he is and where he comes from. His art is the only thing that is important.
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Banksy Bias?, by Heavyconsumer on Jul 18, 2008 11:23:33 GMT 1, more typical journo-bollocks then! Do these people ever bother to research what they write about?
more typical journo-bollocks then! Do these people ever bother to research what they write about?
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Banksy Bias?, by jam on Jul 18, 2008 11:27:16 GMT 1, Seeing as how the article they are referring to was/is a fabrication, why not perpetuate the lie by insinuating ill will from his fans toward Banksy for his "background". 
Seeing as how the article they are referring to was/is a fabrication, why not perpetuate the lie by insinuating ill will from his fans toward Banksy for his "background". |
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Banksy Bias?, by jonpud on Jul 18, 2008 11:40:30 GMT 1, What a load of old bollocks, lets face it, if this is Banksy then I doubt that he decided to go to the school, that would have been decided for him!! And if he made his own informed decision to revolt as he hates the system at a later point in life then so be it and all power to the man for having the balls to do so!!
Bollocks, Bollocks and more Bollocks!!
What a load of old bollocks, lets face it, if this is Banksy then I doubt that he decided to go to the school, that would have been decided for him!! And if he made his own informed decision to revolt as he hates the system at a later point in life then so be it and all power to the man for having the balls to do so!!
Bollocks, Bollocks and more Bollocks!!
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Banksy Bias?, by mightygriffin on Jul 18, 2008 12:00:12 GMT 1, What a load of old bollocks, lets face it, if this is Banksy then I doubt that he decided to go to the school, that would have been decided for him!! And if he made his own informed decision to revolt as he hates the system at a later point in life then so be it and all power to the man for having the balls to do so!! Bollocks, Bollocks and more Bollocks!!
Exactly if this is Banksy then I know for a fact that he didn't want to go to the school and left when he could to go to another college. Both him and his sister are anti-private schools even though they went to ones.
It's not even a posh private school - that's what's really annoying with all this "public" school boy tag.
What a load of old bollocks, lets face it, if this is Banksy then I doubt that he decided to go to the school, that would have been decided for him!! And if he made his own informed decision to revolt as he hates the system at a later point in life then so be it and all power to the man for having the balls to do so!! Bollocks, Bollocks and more Bollocks!! Exactly if this is Banksy then I know for a fact that he didn't want to go to the school and left when he could to go to another college. Both him and his sister are anti-private schools even though they went to ones. It's not even a posh private school - that's what's really annoying with all this "public" school boy tag. |
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Banksy Bias?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 18, 2008 12:45:40 GMT 1, What a load of old bollocks, lets face it, if this is Banksy then I doubt that he decided to go to the school, that would have been decided for him!! And if he made his own informed decision to revolt as he hates the system at a later point in life then so be it and all power to the man for having the balls to do so!! Bollocks, Bollocks and more Bollocks!! Exactly if this is Banksy then I know for a fact that he didn't want to go to the school and left when he could to go to another college. Both him and his sister are anti-private schools even though they went to ones. It's not even a posh private school - that's what's really annoying with all this "public" school boy tag.
huh? that seems a little random and meandering, or maybe i didnt read it right do you mean you know banksy or the bloke that is apparently banksy
anyway a question to anyone which piece of street art depicts banksy's anti public school stance, i cant think of one off the top of my head
what's wrong with private school education anyway plenty of good has come out of them as well as bad, but you can say the exact same of the comprehensive system too.
What a load of old bollocks, lets face it, if this is Banksy then I doubt that he decided to go to the school, that would have been decided for him!! And if he made his own informed decision to revolt as he hates the system at a later point in life then so be it and all power to the man for having the balls to do so!! Bollocks, Bollocks and more Bollocks!! Exactly if this is Banksy then I know for a fact that he didn't want to go to the school and left when he could to go to another college. Both him and his sister are anti-private schools even though they went to ones. It's not even a posh private school - that's what's really annoying with all this "public" school boy tag. huh? that seems a little random and meandering, or maybe i didnt read it right do you mean you know banksy or the bloke that is apparently banksy anyway a question to anyone which piece of street art depicts banksy's anti public school stance, i cant think of one off the top of my head what's wrong with private school education anyway plenty of good has come out of them as well as bad, but you can say the exact same of the comprehensive system too. |
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Banksy Bias?, by Daniel Silk on Jul 18, 2008 12:53:51 GMT 1, Exactly if this is Banksy then I know for a fact that he didn't want to go to the school and left when he could to go to another college. Both him and his sister are anti-private schools even though they went to ones. It's not even a posh private school - that's what's really annoying with all this "public" school boy tag. huh? that seems a little random and meandering, or maybe i didn't read it right do you mean you know banksy or the bloke that is apparently banksy anyway a question to anyone which piece of street art depicts banksy's anti public school stance, i cant think of one off the top of my head what's wrong with private school education anyway plenty of good has come out of them as well as bad, but you can say the exact same of the comprehensive system too.
Yeah, I think much of the Banksy's stance on politics and class have be built up by other people using him as good PR for those view points  but that seems be be backfiring at the moment.
Exactly if this is Banksy then I know for a fact that he didn't want to go to the school and left when he could to go to another college. Both him and his sister are anti-private schools even though they went to ones. It's not even a posh private school - that's what's really annoying with all this "public" school boy tag. huh? that seems a little random and meandering, or maybe i didn't read it right do you mean you know banksy or the bloke that is apparently banksy anyway a question to anyone which piece of street art depicts banksy's anti public school stance, i cant think of one off the top of my head what's wrong with private school education anyway plenty of good has come out of them as well as bad, but you can say the exact same of the comprehensive system too. Yeah, I think much of the Banksy's stance on politics and class have be built up by other people using him as good PR for those view points but that seems be be backfiring at the moment. |
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Banksy Bias?, by jonpud on Jul 18, 2008 12:57:50 GMT 1, People have read what they can into the limited quotes we have from him, do we truely know his personal views or moral standing?
Who cares, Banksy is Banksy and thats all that matters!
People have read what they can into the limited quotes we have from him, do we truely know his personal views or moral standing?
Who cares, Banksy is Banksy and thats all that matters!
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Banksy Bias?, by Daniel Silk on Jul 18, 2008 13:02:30 GMT 1, People have read what they can into the limited quotes we have from him, do we truely know his personal views or moral standing? Who cares, Banksy is Banksy and thats all that matters!
I think much of his work is about asking you questions, and getting you to think a little more about subjects 
People have read what they can into the limited quotes we have from him, do we truely know his personal views or moral standing? Who cares, Banksy is Banksy and thats all that matters! I think much of his work is about asking you questions, and getting you to think a little more about subjects |
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Banksy Bias?, by Prescription Art on Jul 18, 2008 13:03:19 GMT 1, Yeah, I think much of the Banksy's stance on politics and class have be built up by other people using him as good PR for those view points but that seems be be backfiring at the moment.
Eh? How can other people build up or distort Banksy's views on politics & class? They're quite transparent in his work & writing.
And how are they backfiring at the moment?
Yeah, I think much of the Banksy's stance on politics and class have be built up by other people using him as good PR for those view points but that seems be be backfiring at the moment. Eh? How can other people build up or distort Banksy's views on politics & class? They're quite transparent in his work & writing. And how are they backfiring at the moment? |
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Banksy Bias?, by mightygriffin on Jul 18, 2008 13:03:40 GMT 1, Sorry, should have explained myself better - I know (or used to know) the bloke that is apparently Banksy. He is (or was) anti-Private school.
Sorry, should have explained myself better - I know (or used to know) the bloke that is apparently Banksy. He is (or was) anti-Private school.
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Banksy Bias?, by Prescription Art on Jul 18, 2008 13:07:56 GMT 1, I also fail to see how there's any conflict between going to private school & being opposed to elitism. What better way to see the injustices of the class system than to experience it first hand?
I also fail to see how there's any conflict between going to private school & being opposed to elitism. What better way to see the injustices of the class system than to experience it first hand?
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Banksy Bias?, by mightygriffin on Jul 18, 2008 13:08:45 GMT 1, Also I should add his views on politics were pretty clear when at school so I wouldn't say that other people are building up these views for PR.
Also I should add his views on politics were pretty clear when at school so I wouldn't say that other people are building up these views for PR.
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Banksy Bias?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 18, 2008 13:10:10 GMT 1, ah i see now, what didnt he like about them?
ah i see now, what didnt he like about them?
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Banksy Bias?, by mightygriffin on Jul 18, 2008 13:12:43 GMT 1, I also fail to see how there's any conflict between going to private school & being opposed to elitism. What better way to see the injustices of the class system than to experience it first hand?
I agree although I don't really think that the injustices of the class system were particularly seen at Bristol Cathedral School. It's not in the same league as other Private schools in Bristol - Clifton College, QEH, Colstons to name a few.
I also fail to see how there's any conflict between going to private school & being opposed to elitism. What better way to see the injustices of the class system than to experience it first hand? I agree although I don't really think that the injustices of the class system were particularly seen at Bristol Cathedral School. It's not in the same league as other Private schools in Bristol - Clifton College, QEH, Colstons to name a few. |
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Banksy Bias?, by Daniel Silk on Jul 18, 2008 13:13:22 GMT 1, Yeah, I think much of the Banksy's stance on politics and class have be built up by other people using him as good PR for those view points but that seems be be backfiring at the moment. Eh? How can other people build up or distort Banksy's views on politics & class? They're quite transparent in his work & writing. And how are they backfiring at the moment?
I dunno think about how many images he has done that are against MP's and on laws and events introduced by what governments?
Yeah, I think much of the Banksy's stance on politics and class have be built up by other people using him as good PR for those view points but that seems be be backfiring at the moment. Eh? How can other people build up or distort Banksy's views on politics & class? They're quite transparent in his work & writing. And how are they backfiring at the moment? I dunno think about how many images he has done that are against MP's and on laws and events introduced by what governments? |
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Banksy Bias?, by mightygriffin on Jul 18, 2008 13:15:15 GMT 1, ah i see now, what didnt he like about them?
Being sent to one! 
ah i see now, what didnt he like about them? Being sent to one! |
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Banksy Bias?, by Daniel Silk on Jul 18, 2008 13:16:55 GMT 1, ah i see now, what didnt he like about them? Being sent to one!
I think if we ran a vote on who liked going to School? it would come out as a pretty strong NO
Could be wrong  ;D
ah i see now, what didnt he like about them? Being sent to one! I think if we ran a vote on who liked going to School? it would come out as a pretty strong NO Could be wrong ;D |
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Banksy Bias?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 18, 2008 13:17:53 GMT 1,
aaah it always comes back to the soggy bisquits
aaah it always comes back to the soggy bisquits
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Banksy Bias?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 18, 2008 13:20:20 GMT 1, Being sent to one! I think if we ran a vote on who liked going to School? it would come out as a pretty strong NO Could be wrong ;D
depends which bit, i had a great laugh at school as a kid, not a care in the world, endless summers and all that, seems like as an adult everything rushes by too quick...then there was grown up school, university, what a blast ;D
Being sent to one! I think if we ran a vote on who liked going to School? it would come out as a pretty strong NO Could be wrong ;D depends which bit, i had a great laugh at school as a kid, not a care in the world, endless summers and all that, seems like as an adult everything rushes by too quick...then there was grown up school, university, what a blast ;D |
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Banksy Bias?, by mightygriffin on Jul 18, 2008 13:22:57 GMT 1, aaah it always comes back to the soggy bisquits
What you mean biscuits are supposed to be soggy?
All these years.
aaah it always comes back to the soggy bisquits What you mean biscuits are supposed to be soggy? All these years. |
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Banksy Bias?, by Daniel Silk on Jul 18, 2008 13:26:39 GMT 1, I think if we ran a vote on who liked going to School? it would come out as a pretty strong NO Could be wrong ;D depends which bit, i had a great laugh at school as a kid, not a care in the world, endless summers and all that, seems like as an adult everything rushes by too quick...then there was grown up school, university, what a blast ;D
Yeah ;D I hated School  But looking back I wish I had sat back and enjoyed it a bit more
I think if we ran a vote on who liked going to School? it would come out as a pretty strong NO Could be wrong ;D depends which bit, i had a great laugh at school as a kid, not a care in the world, endless summers and all that, seems like as an adult everything rushes by too quick...then there was grown up school, university, what a blast ;D Yeah ;D I hated School But looking back I wish I had sat back and enjoyed it a bit more |
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Banksy Bias?, by Prescription Art on Jul 18, 2008 13:26:42 GMT 1, Eh? How can other people build up or distort Banksy's views on politics & class? They're quite transparent in his work & writing. And how are they backfiring at the moment? I dunno think about how many images he has done that are against MP's and on laws and events introduced by what governments?
He's not accusing labour of being too liberal or too left-wing though is he. The fact that he attacks various things implemented by labour (CCTV / Surveillance for instance) doesn't make him a tory.
Eh? How can other people build up or distort Banksy's views on politics & class? They're quite transparent in his work & writing. And how are they backfiring at the moment? I dunno think about how many images he has done that are against MP's and on laws and events introduced by what governments? He's not accusing labour of being too liberal or too left-wing though is he. The fact that he attacks various things implemented by labour (CCTV / Surveillance for instance) doesn't make him a tory. |
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Banksy Bias?, by maadbeats on Jul 18, 2008 13:43:05 GMT 1, hopefully prices will drop and I can pick up my first signed banksy.
hopefully prices will drop and I can pick up my first signed banksy.
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Banksy Bias?, by BlightSociety on Jul 18, 2008 13:44:25 GMT 1, The putrid jaws of the media monster gape wide for there next celebrity victim it seems.
If the story is ever substantiated then maybe we can all be treated to photos of Robin Gunningham throwing up outside a nightclub splashed across the front age each morning.
The putrid jaws of the media monster gape wide for there next celebrity victim it seems.
If the story is ever substantiated then maybe we can all be treated to photos of Robin Gunningham throwing up outside a nightclub splashed across the front age each morning.
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Banksy Bias?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 18, 2008 13:48:01 GMT 1, I dunno think about how many images he has done that are against MP's and on laws and events introduced by what governments? He's not accusing labour of being too liberal or too left-wing though is he. The fact that he attacks various things implemented by labour (CCTV / Surveillance for instance) doesn't make him a tory.
Labour - left wing, PA?
"my greatest achievement? Tony Blair and New Labour" - Margaret Thatcher
..and she was right
I dunno think about how many images he has done that are against MP's and on laws and events introduced by what governments? He's not accusing labour of being too liberal or too left-wing though is he. The fact that he attacks various things implemented by labour (CCTV / Surveillance for instance) doesn't make him a tory. Labour - left wing, PA? "my greatest achievement? Tony Blair and New Labour" - Margaret Thatcher ..and she was right |
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Banksy Bias?, by Prescription Art on Jul 18, 2008 14:20:07 GMT 1, He's not accusing labour of being too liberal or too left-wing though is he. The fact that he attacks various things implemented by labour (CCTV / Surveillance for instance) doesn't make him a tory. Labour - left wing, PA? "my greatest achievement? Tony Blair and New Labour" - Margaret Thatcher ..and she was right
I wasn't suggesting they were left-wing. I dont' think I explained myself very well!
He's not accusing labour of being too liberal or too left-wing though is he. The fact that he attacks various things implemented by labour (CCTV / Surveillance for instance) doesn't make him a tory. Labour - left wing, PA? "my greatest achievement? Tony Blair and New Labour" - Margaret Thatcher ..and she was right I wasn't suggesting they were left-wing. I dont' think I explained myself very well! |
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but that seems be be backfiring at the moment.
;D
But looking back I wish I had sat back and enjoyed it a bit more 
