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UK Elections, by mcnuts on Oct 5, 2007 11:32:19 GMT 1, so do you guys still think there'll be an election shortly? Or will Labour back down and lose face, because of the Tories recent boost in popularity... pictures of Gord in Iraq for his little publicity shoot had me thinking dead cert announcement early next week
as i said above..... who really wants an election? waste of time and money. Plus... it's like voting for coke or pepsi anyway.
so do you guys still think there'll be an election shortly? Or will Labour back down and lose face, because of the Tories recent boost in popularity... pictures of Gord in Iraq for his little publicity shoot had me thinking dead cert announcement early next week as i said above..... who really wants an election? waste of time and money. Plus... it's like voting for coke or pepsi anyway.
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UK Elections, by jonpud on Oct 5, 2007 11:33:06 GMT 1, Poll points go up and down more than the price of a Banksy! Seriously, respect to those who have historical reasons to vote one way or another BUT they are all full of shite, they all make promises you want to hear but never get delivered, watching your Grandfather die in a transit room of a hospital with drunks yelling and fighting the other side of a curtain and all because of the red tape to get the poor bloke a bed is the shittiest moment of my life! Where is the dignity we all deserve and where is the 'improved' health service that we were promised!? It aint here and it never will be along with all the other bollox promises made by this government! You pay they say! Fuck em all!! Not posting on this thread anymore, leave it to you guys!
Poll points go up and down more than the price of a Banksy! Seriously, respect to those who have historical reasons to vote one way or another BUT they are all full of shite, they all make promises you want to hear but never get delivered, watching your Grandfather die in a transit room of a hospital with drunks yelling and fighting the other side of a curtain and all because of the red tape to get the poor bloke a bed is the shittiest moment of my life! Where is the dignity we all deserve and where is the 'improved' health service that we were promised!? It aint here and it never will be along with all the other bollox promises made by this government! You pay they say! Fuck em all!! Not posting on this thread anymore, leave it to you guys!
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UK Elections, by carlito on Oct 5, 2007 11:35:02 GMT 1, so do you guys still think there'll be an election shortly? Or will Labour back down and lose face, because of the Tories recent boost in popularity... pictures of Gord in Iraq for his little publicity shoot had me thinking dead cert announcement early next week as i said above..... who really wants an election? waste of time and money. Plus... it's like voting for coke or pepsi anyway.
Doctor Peppers for me please ;D
so do you guys still think there'll be an election shortly? Or will Labour back down and lose face, because of the Tories recent boost in popularity... pictures of Gord in Iraq for his little publicity shoot had me thinking dead cert announcement early next week as i said above..... who really wants an election? waste of time and money. Plus... it's like voting for coke or pepsi anyway. Doctor Peppers for me please ;D
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UK Elections, by danvnuk on Oct 5, 2007 11:35:15 GMT 1, why the presumption that Banksy is Pro-Labour? LOL - if anything I'd say he was completely apolitical. apolitical? not a chance. but, if you mean by apolitical, having politics outside of the formal party system then i'd agree....
That's what I meant. I imagine he feels all the party Politicians are chumps.
why the presumption that Banksy is Pro-Labour? LOL - if anything I'd say he was completely apolitical. apolitical? not a chance. but, if you mean by apolitical, having politics outside of the formal party system then i'd agree.... That's what I meant. I imagine he feels all the party Politicians are chumps.
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UK Elections, by carlito on Oct 5, 2007 11:37:34 GMT 1, Poll points go up and down more than the price of a Banksy! Seriously, respect to those who have historical reasons to vote one way or another BUT they are all full of s**te, they all make promises you want to hear but never get delivered, watching your Grandfather die in a transit room of a hospital with drunks yelling and fighting the other side of a curtain and all because of the red tape to get the poor bloke a bed is the s**ttiest moment of my life! Where is the dignity we all deserve and where is the 'improved' health service that we were promised!? It aint here and it never will be along with all the other bollox promises made by this government! You pay they say! f**k em all!! Not posting on this thread anymore, leave it to you guys!
respect...had similar experience and when I hear thr freaking bollox politicians say about all they've done its enough to make me put my foot through the tv
Poll points go up and down more than the price of a Banksy! Seriously, respect to those who have historical reasons to vote one way or another BUT they are all full of s**te, they all make promises you want to hear but never get delivered, watching your Grandfather die in a transit room of a hospital with drunks yelling and fighting the other side of a curtain and all because of the red tape to get the poor bloke a bed is the s**ttiest moment of my life! Where is the dignity we all deserve and where is the 'improved' health service that we were promised!? It aint here and it never will be along with all the other bollox promises made by this government! You pay they say! f**k em all!! Not posting on this thread anymore, leave it to you guys! respect...had similar experience and when I hear thr freaking bollox politicians say about all they've done its enough to make me put my foot through the tv
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UK Elections, by manchestermike on Oct 5, 2007 11:43:14 GMT 1, Get Labour out, I trust Brown even less than Blair and that is seriously saying something. He seriously worries me as PM, I think if he stays we may end up in major problems in numerous areas.
Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this country out
Get Labour out, I trust Brown even less than Blair and that is seriously saying something. He seriously worries me as PM, I think if he stays we may end up in major problems in numerous areas.
Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this country out
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UK Elections, by lesbianwednesdays on Oct 5, 2007 12:12:17 GMT 1, Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this c*ntry out
;D
Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this c*ntry out ;D
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UK Elections, by corblimeylimey on Oct 5, 2007 12:58:25 GMT 1, why the presumption that Banksy is Pro-Labour? LOL - if anything I'd say he was completely apolitical.
He may not be pro Labour but he's bound to be anti-Conservative.
why the presumption that Banksy is Pro-Labour? LOL - if anything I'd say he was completely apolitical. He may not be pro Labour but he's bound to be anti-Conservative.
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UK Elections, by corblimeylimey on Oct 5, 2007 12:59:51 GMT 1, Get Labour out, I trust Brown even less than Blair and that is seriously saying something. He seriously worries me as PM, I think if he stays we may end up in major problems in numerous areas. Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this country out
Surely your Maggie comment is a joke, (at least I hope so)
Get Labour out, I trust Brown even less than Blair and that is seriously saying something. He seriously worries me as PM, I think if he stays we may end up in major problems in numerous areas. Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this country out Surely your Maggie comment is a joke, (at least I hope so)
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UK Elections, by dotdot on Oct 5, 2007 13:06:12 GMT 1, Get Labour out, I trust Brown even less than Blair and that is seriously saying something. He seriously worries me as PM, I think if he stays we may end up in major problems in numerous areas. Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this country out
I like your style - however your message is somewhat misplaced. Brown is just another Politician. Cameron is a player - he thinks.
As for MT - well i think Elvis Costello said it all.
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Get Labour out, I trust Brown even less than Blair and that is seriously saying something. He seriously worries me as PM, I think if he stays we may end up in major problems in numerous areas. Bring Maggie back I say, she'll sort this country out I like your style - however your message is somewhat misplaced. Brown is just another Politician. Cameron is a player - he thinks. As for MT - well i think Elvis Costello said it all. ..
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UK Elections, by corblimeyswife on Oct 5, 2007 13:07:30 GMT 1, I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!!
I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!!
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UK Elections, by arcam on Oct 5, 2007 13:16:01 GMT 1, Surely your Maggie comment is a joke, (at least I hope so) There are a lot council house tenants who are now home owners thanks to Maggie and the 'right to buy' scheme. Something which the Labour government were 'vehemently opposed to' I may add. So she wasn't all bad.
news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/december/20/newsid_4017000/4017019.stm
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UK Elections, by manchestermike on Oct 5, 2007 13:17:34 GMT 1, I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!!
I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting
I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!! I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting
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UK Elections, by jipsy on Oct 5, 2007 13:24:29 GMT 1, The scriptwriters at Have I got News For You must have thought it was Christmas when the Torys wheeled out Cameron as their lead man. Just seeing him on his bike with his doppy helmet and his trouser clips on raises a smile. Sod the politics let's think about comedy, who's going to bag the most laughs. George W is the Daddy, he is the Bob Hope of American politics, could Cameron be his Bob Monkhouse in waiting? ;D
The scriptwriters at Have I got News For You must have thought it was Christmas when the Torys wheeled out Cameron as their lead man. Just seeing him on his bike with his doppy helmet and his trouser clips on raises a smile. Sod the politics let's think about comedy, who's going to bag the most laughs. George W is the Daddy, he is the Bob Hope of American politics, could Cameron be his Bob Monkhouse in waiting? ;D
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UK Elections, by jipsy on Oct 5, 2007 13:27:55 GMT 1, I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!! I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting
I'm sure there are a few thousand rabbied, chicken farm raiding, ewe killing foxes that might disagree with you Mike.
I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!! I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting I'm sure there are a few thousand rabbied, chicken farm raiding, ewe killing foxes that might disagree with you Mike.
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UK Elections, by Rabbitlegs on Oct 5, 2007 13:28:26 GMT 1, I dont agree with hunting, In fact Im a hunt saboteur...I go out the night before and shoot the fox.
I dont agree with hunting, In fact Im a hunt saboteur...I go out the night before and shoot the fox.
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UK Elections, by arcam on Oct 5, 2007 13:28:29 GMT 1, The scriptwriters at Have I got News For You must have thought it was Christmas when the Torys wheeled out Cameron as their lead man. Just seeing him on his bike with his doppy helmet and his trouser clips on raises a smile. Sod the politics let's think about comedy, who's going to bag the most laughs. George W is the Daddy, he is the Bob Hope of American politics, could Cameron be his Bob Monkhouse in waiting? ;D They should bring back Spitting Image. ;D
The scriptwriters at Have I got News For You must have thought it was Christmas when the Torys wheeled out Cameron as their lead man. Just seeing him on his bike with his doppy helmet and his trouser clips on raises a smile. Sod the politics let's think about comedy, who's going to bag the most laughs. George W is the Daddy, he is the Bob Hope of American politics, could Cameron be his Bob Monkhouse in waiting? ;D They should bring back Spitting Image. ;D
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UK Elections, by dave313perry on Oct 5, 2007 13:28:49 GMT 1, The way its coming accross more and more to me is..
Do you want be be 'British' - Do you want to be 'European'
I know what Id rather
The way its coming accross more and more to me is..
Do you want be be 'British' - Do you want to be 'European'
I know what Id rather
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UK Elections, by lesbianwednesdays on Oct 5, 2007 13:29:38 GMT 1, I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!! I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting
you on a wind up mike or what?
what about dog fighting and bear baiting while we're at it? any c*nt who takes pleasure (they call it sport) in watching and animal destroy another animal in the name of entertainment is sick. f*ckin sick. license it all you like, so long as there are animals killing others for the gratification of a bunch of whack jobs i will be vehemently against it.
-1 for you.
I am very shocked to see such a high number of Conservative voting going on! You do realize that Cameron will bring back hunting!!! I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting you on a wind up mike or what? what about dog fighting and bear baiting while we're at it? any c*nt who takes pleasure (they call it sport) in watching and animal destroy another animal in the name of entertainment is sick. f*ckin sick. license it all you like, so long as there are animals killing others for the gratification of a bunch of whack jobs i will be vehemently against it. -1 for you.
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UK Elections, by jipsy on Oct 5, 2007 13:30:07 GMT 1, The scriptwriters at Have I got News For You must have thought it was Christmas when the Torys wheeled out Cameron as their lead man. Just seeing him on his bike with his doppy helmet and his trouser clips on raises a smile. Sod the politics let's think about comedy, who's going to bag the most laughs. George W is the Daddy, he is the Bob Hope of American politics, could Cameron be his Bob Monkhouse in waiting? ;D They should bring back Spitting Image. ;D
Did they ever find Ronald Reagan's brain?
The scriptwriters at Have I got News For You must have thought it was Christmas when the Torys wheeled out Cameron as their lead man. Just seeing him on his bike with his doppy helmet and his trouser clips on raises a smile. Sod the politics let's think about comedy, who's going to bag the most laughs. George W is the Daddy, he is the Bob Hope of American politics, could Cameron be his Bob Monkhouse in waiting? ;D They should bring back Spitting Image. ;D Did they ever find Ronald Reagan's brain?
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UK Elections, by manchestermike on Oct 5, 2007 13:31:08 GMT 1, I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting I'm sure there are a few thousand rabbied, chicken farm raiding, ewe killing foxes that might disagree with you Mike.
;D I'm sure there are matey ;D
PS - If Boris was Conservative leader then I'd find some way to get multiple votes cast
www.petitiononline.com/Boris4PM/petition.html
I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting I'm sure there are a few thousand rabbied, chicken farm raiding, ewe killing foxes that might disagree with you Mike. ;D I'm sure there are matey ;D PS - If Boris was Conservative leader then I'd find some way to get multiple votes cast www.petitiononline.com/Boris4PM/petition.html
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UK Elections, by manchestermike on Oct 5, 2007 13:33:27 GMT 1, I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting you on a wind up mike or what? what about dog fighting and bear baiting while we're at it? any c*nt who takes pleasure (they call it sport) in watching and animal destroy another animal in the name of entertainment is sick. f*ckin sick. license it all you like, so long as there are animals killing others for the gratification of a bunch of whack jobs i will be vehemently against it. -1 for you.
I'm deadly serious mate...
I mean proper licensed hunting, not dogs ripping up the fox, but dogs on leads finding the foxes and people shooting them cleanly.
Nothing to do with animals killing animals, all to do with keeping the fox (vermin) population down
I seriously can't see anything wrong with regulated, licensed hunting you on a wind up mike or what? what about dog fighting and bear baiting while we're at it? any c*nt who takes pleasure (they call it sport) in watching and animal destroy another animal in the name of entertainment is sick. f*ckin sick. license it all you like, so long as there are animals killing others for the gratification of a bunch of whack jobs i will be vehemently against it. -1 for you. I'm deadly serious mate... I mean proper licensed hunting, not dogs ripping up the fox, but dogs on leads finding the foxes and people shooting them cleanly. Nothing to do with animals killing animals, all to do with keeping the fox (vermin) population down
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UK Elections, by arcam on Oct 5, 2007 13:34:06 GMT 1, Speaking of Spitting Image... ;D
Nothing to do with the UK elections but it's funny.
Speaking of Spitting Image... ;D Nothing to do with the UK elections but it's funny.
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UK Elections, by lesbianwednesdays on Oct 5, 2007 13:41:01 GMT 1,
yes she was. they never replaced council stock, the sold the house with a massive 60% discount and you only had to hold on to it for 3 years before you could sell and keep 100% of the profits. my mum bought hers a few years back so you'd think i'd be in favour of it? i have an 8 month old son who may one day need social housing and will be told tough sh*t.
there are better ways of giving people an opportunity in life than a massive discount on a council house so they can sell it and escape the 'estates'. an education for a start.
yes she was. they never replaced council stock, the sold the house with a massive 60% discount and you only had to hold on to it for 3 years before you could sell and keep 100% of the profits. my mum bought hers a few years back so you'd think i'd be in favour of it? i have an 8 month old son who may one day need social housing and will be told tough sh*t. there are better ways of giving people an opportunity in life than a massive discount on a council house so they can sell it and escape the 'estates'. an education for a start.
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UK Elections, by BONGO on Oct 5, 2007 13:48:37 GMT 1, BONGO THINK ALL THIS TALK OF WHAT PARTY TO VOTE FOR IS A DIVERSION TO TAKE MIND OFF THE REAL SITUATION
BONGO THINKS ITS IRRELEVANT, AS THE SAME GROUPS OF ELITE EDUCATED AND PUBLIC SCHOOL CAREER POLITICOS GET IN, REGARDLESS OF COLOUR OF THEIR TIE OR THE SONG THEY SING AT CONFERENCE
BONGO THINK THAT WHOEVER YOU VOTE FOR, THEY ALWAYS WIN
THE EXPENSE OF CASTING A VOTE IN SMALL PORTAKABIN FOR ENTIRE NATION IS CHEAPER THAN PROVIDING BETTER HEALTHCARE OR SUPRESSING RIOTS ON A DAILY BASIS
BONGO INTERESTED IN DISCUSSIONS HERE - THE MINUTIAE OF PARTY POLICY DEBATE KEEPS US FROM IDENTIFYING THE REAL ROOT OF PROBLEM, THE REAL REASON FOR OUT ALMOST TOTAL DISSATISFACTION WITH THE LIFE WE HAVE TO LEAD.
THE REASON BEHIND OUR INSTAIBALE DEMAND FOR VULGAR CONSUMER GOODS WITH BUILT IN OBSCELESENCE THAT DO NOT MAKE OUR LIVES ANY RICHER OR MAKE US ANY HAPPIER
BONGO THINK WE TAUGHT TO USE CAREER. STATUS AND MONEY AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR TRAVEL, LOVE AND EXPERIENCE
BONGO CONCERNED THAT WE SPEND OUT LIVES ACCUMULATING GOODS AND STATUS
BUT WHY ?
BONGO THINK ALL THIS TALK OF WHAT PARTY TO VOTE FOR IS A DIVERSION TO TAKE MIND OFF THE REAL SITUATION
BONGO THINKS ITS IRRELEVANT, AS THE SAME GROUPS OF ELITE EDUCATED AND PUBLIC SCHOOL CAREER POLITICOS GET IN, REGARDLESS OF COLOUR OF THEIR TIE OR THE SONG THEY SING AT CONFERENCE
BONGO THINK THAT WHOEVER YOU VOTE FOR, THEY ALWAYS WIN
THE EXPENSE OF CASTING A VOTE IN SMALL PORTAKABIN FOR ENTIRE NATION IS CHEAPER THAN PROVIDING BETTER HEALTHCARE OR SUPRESSING RIOTS ON A DAILY BASIS
BONGO INTERESTED IN DISCUSSIONS HERE - THE MINUTIAE OF PARTY POLICY DEBATE KEEPS US FROM IDENTIFYING THE REAL ROOT OF PROBLEM, THE REAL REASON FOR OUT ALMOST TOTAL DISSATISFACTION WITH THE LIFE WE HAVE TO LEAD.
THE REASON BEHIND OUR INSTAIBALE DEMAND FOR VULGAR CONSUMER GOODS WITH BUILT IN OBSCELESENCE THAT DO NOT MAKE OUR LIVES ANY RICHER OR MAKE US ANY HAPPIER
BONGO THINK WE TAUGHT TO USE CAREER. STATUS AND MONEY AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR TRAVEL, LOVE AND EXPERIENCE
BONGO CONCERNED THAT WE SPEND OUT LIVES ACCUMULATING GOODS AND STATUS
BUT WHY ?
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UK Elections, by manchestermike on Oct 5, 2007 13:51:30 GMT 1, HAS BONGO SEEN PURE EVIL'S THREAD ABOUT DIANA CRASH?
HAS BONGO SEEN PURE EVIL'S THREAD ABOUT DIANA CRASH?
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UK Elections, by lesbianwednesdays on Oct 5, 2007 13:51:35 GMT 1, BONGO THINK ALL THIS TALK OF WHAT PARTY TO VOTE FOR IS A DIVERSION TO TAKE MIND OFF THE REAL SITUATION BONGO THINKS ITS IRRELEVANT, AS THE SAME GROUPS OF ELITE EDUCATED AND PUBLIC SCHOOL CAREER POLITICOS GET IN, REGARDLESS OF COLOUR OF THEIR TIE OR THE SONG THEY SING AT CONFERENCE BONGO THINK THAT WHOEVER YOU VOTE FOR, THEY ALWAYS WIN THE EXPENSE OF CASTING A VOTE IN SMALL PORTAKABIN FOR ENTIRE NATION IS CHEAPER THAN PROVIDING BETTER HEALTHCARE OR SUPRESSING RIOTS ON A DAILY BASIS BONGO INTERESTED IN DISCUSSIONS HERE - THE MINUTIAE OF PARTY POLICY DEBATE KEEPS US FROM IDENTIFYING THE REAL ROOT OF PROBLEM, THE REAL REASON FOR OUT ALMOST TOTAL DISSATISFACTION WITH THE LIFE WE HAVE TO LEAD. THE REASON BEHIND OUR INSTAIBALE DEMAND FOR VULGAR CONSUMER GOODS WITH BUILT IN OBSCELESENCE THAT DO NOT MAKE OUR LIVES ANY RICHER OR MAKE US ANY HAPPIER BONGO THINK WE TAUGHT TO USE CAREER. STATUS AND MONEY AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR TRAVEL, LOVE AND EXPERIENCE BONGO CONCERNED THAT WE SPEND OUT LIVES ACCUMULATING GOODS AND STATUS BUT WHY ?
'cos we've got nothing better to do.
BONGO THINK ALL THIS TALK OF WHAT PARTY TO VOTE FOR IS A DIVERSION TO TAKE MIND OFF THE REAL SITUATION BONGO THINKS ITS IRRELEVANT, AS THE SAME GROUPS OF ELITE EDUCATED AND PUBLIC SCHOOL CAREER POLITICOS GET IN, REGARDLESS OF COLOUR OF THEIR TIE OR THE SONG THEY SING AT CONFERENCE BONGO THINK THAT WHOEVER YOU VOTE FOR, THEY ALWAYS WIN THE EXPENSE OF CASTING A VOTE IN SMALL PORTAKABIN FOR ENTIRE NATION IS CHEAPER THAN PROVIDING BETTER HEALTHCARE OR SUPRESSING RIOTS ON A DAILY BASIS BONGO INTERESTED IN DISCUSSIONS HERE - THE MINUTIAE OF PARTY POLICY DEBATE KEEPS US FROM IDENTIFYING THE REAL ROOT OF PROBLEM, THE REAL REASON FOR OUT ALMOST TOTAL DISSATISFACTION WITH THE LIFE WE HAVE TO LEAD. THE REASON BEHIND OUR INSTAIBALE DEMAND FOR VULGAR CONSUMER GOODS WITH BUILT IN OBSCELESENCE THAT DO NOT MAKE OUR LIVES ANY RICHER OR MAKE US ANY HAPPIER BONGO THINK WE TAUGHT TO USE CAREER. STATUS AND MONEY AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR TRAVEL, LOVE AND EXPERIENCE BONGO CONCERNED THAT WE SPEND OUT LIVES ACCUMULATING GOODS AND STATUS BUT WHY ? 'cos we've got nothing better to do.
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UK Elections, by arcam on Oct 5, 2007 13:51:45 GMT 1,
;D
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UK Elections, by BONGO on Oct 5, 2007 13:53:40 GMT 1, HAS BONGO SEEN PURE EVIL'S THREAD ABOUT DIANA CRASH?
BONGO HAS BEEN BUSY LOOKING FOR CLUES- BONGO HAS NOT SEEN THREAD
HAS BONGO SEEN PURE EVIL'S THREAD ABOUT DIANA CRASH? BONGO HAS BEEN BUSY LOOKING FOR CLUES- BONGO HAS NOT SEEN THREAD
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UK Elections, by manchestermike on Oct 5, 2007 13:54:32 GMT 1, BONGO WON'T LIKE
BONGO NEEDS TO LOOK IN POW SECTION
BONGO WON'T LIKE
BONGO NEEDS TO LOOK IN POW SECTION
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