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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by corblimeylimey on Feb 22, 2007 22:13:33 GMT 1, We hated Churchill and kicked him out of office as soon after the war as we could.
We hated Churchill and kicked him out of office as soon after the war as we could.
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by absyrd on Feb 22, 2007 22:14:31 GMT 1, So do you like anyone? ;D
So do you like anyone? ;D
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by Octopus UK on Feb 22, 2007 22:20:48 GMT 1, I like Tony.
I like Tony.
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by corblimeylimey on Feb 22, 2007 22:22:01 GMT 1, Churchill died the year I was born ;D
Some good things came from Churchills lips, here's a couple of good ones.
Lady Astor : "Mr. Churchill, you're drunk!" Mr. Churchill : "Yes, and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober.
"Americans can always be counted upon to do the right thing - after all other possibilities have been exhausted."
Churchill died the year I was born ;D
Some good things came from Churchills lips, here's a couple of good ones.
Lady Astor : "Mr. Churchill, you're drunk!" Mr. Churchill : "Yes, and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober.
"Americans can always be counted upon to do the right thing - after all other possibilities have been exhausted."
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by ABC on Feb 22, 2007 22:26:21 GMT 1, Nothing biblical about it, although relegion does play a major factor in the troubles within the world today. "generations behind the human race" basically means IMO they are not as advanced as the western world in all aspects and therefor do not know any different. Sadam had restricted lives for decades from advancing like the western worlds.
Its too late for this my head hurts
Nothing biblical about it, although relegion does play a major factor in the troubles within the world today. "generations behind the human race" basically means IMO they are not as advanced as the western world in all aspects and therefor do not know any different. Sadam had restricted lives for decades from advancing like the western worlds.
Its too late for this my head hurts
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by Octopus UK on Feb 22, 2007 22:26:25 GMT 1, The U.S. saving your asses in WWII will always loom over any British decision-maker's head, regardless of any monetary debt being repaid or not. FDR opted to tackle Italy and Germany before "getting back at" Japan for Pearl Harbor. For as much as you all hate Thatcher and Blair, you must LOVE Churchill and FDR.
FDR had no choice in the matter.
After Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, the US had no choice but to go to war with Japan. There was no intention of the US, at that stage, of getting involved in a European war. Hitler, however, came to the UK's "rescue" by declairing war on the US, so the US had no choice but then to also fight a European war.
The U.S. saving your asses in WWII will always loom over any British decision-maker's head, regardless of any monetary debt being repaid or not. FDR opted to tackle Italy and Germany before "getting back at" Japan for Pearl Harbor. For as much as you all hate Thatcher and Blair, you must LOVE Churchill and FDR. FDR had no choice in the matter. After Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, the US had no choice but to go to war with Japan. There was no intention of the US, at that stage, of getting involved in a European war. Hitler, however, came to the UK's "rescue" by declairing war on the US, so the US had no choice but then to also fight a European war. |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by Daniel Silk on Feb 22, 2007 22:34:44 GMT 1, The U.S. saving your asses in WWII will always loom over any British decision-maker's head, regardless of any monetary debt being repaid or not.
 ya what! your havin a laugh ;D aint ya! you are aint ya! ;D surely
The U.S. saving your asses in WWII will always loom over any British decision-maker's head, regardless of any monetary debt being repaid or not. ya what! your havin a laugh ;D aint ya! you are aint ya! ;D surely |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by corblimeylimey on Feb 22, 2007 22:40:24 GMT 1, I'm withdrawing from this political debate henceforth.
I don't think you make many friends when politics comes into play, and friends are more important than politics.
I'm withdrawing from this political debate henceforth.
I don't think you make many friends when politics comes into play, and friends are more important than politics.
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by numusic on Feb 22, 2007 23:21:25 GMT 1, Nothing biblical about it, although relegion does play a major factor in the troubles within the world today. "generations behind the human race" basically means IMO they are not as advanced as the western world in all aspects and therefor do not know any different. Sadam had restricted lives for decades from advancing like the western worlds. Its too late for this my head hurts
Dangerous ground you're treading ABC..  I'd say other societies and religions are well in advance of the West both spiritually and intellectually. The seat of the all learning lies in the middle and far east. Love peace and harmony... we're just a bunch of ignorant credit card weilding materialistic consumer driven louts this side of the water 
Guess we all need to find a nice middle ground between material comfort and spiritual welfare. Not easy and probably not attainable anyway, but certainly worth trying.. we have whole cities populated by unhappy pill popping robots driven to distraction by working in meaningless unfullfilling jobs spending their wages on trying to find "spiritual" fulfillment.. The Madonna effect. Sad.
I've met far more people on my travels from other poorer cultures (financially) who seem far more centered than anyone from the "west". And I don't mean hippies , just genuinly nice friendly balanced human beings.. maybe the older cultures have more to draw from, rather than our quite dark religious past.
I blame the parents
Nothing biblical about it, although relegion does play a major factor in the troubles within the world today. "generations behind the human race" basically means IMO they are not as advanced as the western world in all aspects and therefor do not know any different. Sadam had restricted lives for decades from advancing like the western worlds. Its too late for this my head hurts Dangerous ground you're treading ABC.. I'd say other societies and religions are well in advance of the West both spiritually and intellectually. The seat of the all learning lies in the middle and far east. Love peace and harmony... we're just a bunch of ignorant credit card weilding materialistic consumer driven louts this side of the water Guess we all need to find a nice middle ground between material comfort and spiritual welfare. Not easy and probably not attainable anyway, but certainly worth trying.. we have whole cities populated by unhappy pill popping robots driven to distraction by working in meaningless unfullfilling jobs spending their wages on trying to find "spiritual" fulfillment.. The Madonna effect. Sad. I've met far more people on my travels from other poorer cultures (financially) who seem far more centered than anyone from the "west". And I don't mean hippies , just genuinly nice friendly balanced human beings.. maybe the older cultures have more to draw from, rather than our quite dark religious past. I blame the parents |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by numusic on Feb 22, 2007 23:33:27 GMT 1, I bored and annoyed myself with that last post.. agree with corblimey.. friends are more important than politics. I'm outta this one..
Who wants a hug ? 
I bored and annoyed myself with that last post.. agree with corblimey.. friends are more important than politics. I'm outta this one.. Who wants a hug ? |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by monochrome on Feb 22, 2007 23:45:00 GMT 1, The U.S. saving your asses in WWII will always loom over any British decision-maker's head, regardless of any monetary debt being repaid or not. ya what! your havin a laugh ;D aint ya! you are aint ya! ;D surely
ask a russian if they think Britain was in WWII, they'll just laugh. we lost 250,000, they lost 22million.
the US bailed us out with money and without the battle of the Bulge we'd have lost the western front too.
The U.S. saving your asses in WWII will always loom over any British decision-maker's head, regardless of any monetary debt being repaid or not. ya what! your havin a laugh ;D aint ya! you are aint ya! ;D surely ask a russian if they think Britain was in WWII, they'll just laugh. we lost 250,000, they lost 22million. the US bailed us out with money and without the battle of the Bulge we'd have lost the western front too. |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by monochrome on Feb 22, 2007 23:46:46 GMT 1, We hated Churchill and kicked him out of office as soon after the war as we could.
did we?
did he country not want social change then?
did Winnie not get back in power 5 years later?
was that because we hated then too?
We hated Churchill and kicked him out of office as soon after the war as we could. did we? did he country not want social change then? did Winnie not get back in power 5 years later? was that because we hated then too? |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by absyrd on Feb 23, 2007 1:43:21 GMT 1, I bored and annoyed myself with that last post.. agree with corblimey.. friends are more important than politics. I'm outta this one.. Who wants a hug ?
((((((nuart))))))
I bored and annoyed myself with that last post.. agree with corblimey.. friends are more important than politics. I'm outta this one.. Who wants a hug ? ((((((nuart)))))) |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by fitzi on Feb 23, 2007 1:59:10 GMT 1, all i can say is cmon prince harry ,wales rules
all i can say is cmon prince harry ,wales rules |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by irf2112 on Feb 23, 2007 2:32:14 GMT 1, The following piece provides all the history about the West and its 'thirst' for oil from the middle east...
video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6702050570069604257
Please give it a view - Its a real eye-opener.
Any comments would be 'nice'...
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by Curley on Feb 23, 2007 2:51:07 GMT 1, Bring back Spitting Image.
Where are you when we need a Tony Blair puppet (and Bush, Beckham and Osama) ?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bring back Spitting Image.
Where are you when we need a Tony Blair puppet (and Bush, Beckham and Osama) ?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by beyond on Feb 23, 2007 7:33:12 GMT 1, we brits complain about everything, tony, thatcher probaly gordon or cameron whoever takes over
we even complain about the weather and when the americans do something about we still complain
we brits complain about everything, tony, thatcher probaly gordon or cameron whoever takes over
we even complain about the weather and when the americans do something about we still complain
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by Curley on Feb 23, 2007 9:01:19 GMT 1, Now what have the Americans done to our weather ?
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by stuey09 on Feb 23, 2007 9:43:17 GMT 1, Now what have the Americans done to our weather ?
Isn't global warming all their fault
Now what have the Americans done to our weather ? Isn't global warming all their fault |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by ABC on Feb 23, 2007 12:29:28 GMT 1, I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like .
I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like .
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by irf2112 on Feb 23, 2007 12:57:38 GMT 1, I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like .
What do you expect - first the US used the Afghans to fight against the Russians. Leaving a totally devistated place even more devistated. Then it was bombed senseless again. These people have grown up with war and now they're getting another all because of a gas pipeline that the US have wanted.
Its tribal rule in such places, no law and order. But people aren't killing each other in huge droves... Unlike when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. There was mass rape, pillage, murder going on. All because there was no law. When certain countries are hit with a disaster they come together and help each other out. As for the US when disaster struck the people didnt stick together - I'd hope the UK would be different and we'd help each other out. So enough of that looking over your shoulder 'us-and-them' bollocks.
And to cap it all off the worlds richest country have left their citizens in New Orleans to rot! A recent edition of top gear was shocking - it showed the city was still in a horrific state.
I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like . What do you expect - first the US used the Afghans to fight against the Russians. Leaving a totally devistated place even more devistated. Then it was bombed senseless again. These people have grown up with war and now they're getting another all because of a gas pipeline that the US have wanted. Its tribal rule in such places, no law and order. But people aren't killing each other in huge droves... Unlike when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. There was mass rape, pillage, murder going on. All because there was no law. When certain countries are hit with a disaster they come together and help each other out. As for the US when disaster struck the people didnt stick together - I'd hope the UK would be different and we'd help each other out. So enough of that looking over your shoulder 'us-and-them' bollocks. And to cap it all off the worlds richest country have left their citizens in New Orleans to rot! A recent edition of top gear was shocking - it showed the city was still in a horrific state. |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by ABC on Feb 23, 2007 13:19:16 GMT 1, Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!!
Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!!
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by irf2112 on Feb 23, 2007 13:24:20 GMT 1, Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!!
Sorry mate, what i was trying to get at was - you've got to look over your shoulder wherever you are. Its not just the case for Afghanistan. BTW i think Afghanistan would be safer than New Orleans at the mo'...
Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!! Sorry mate, what i was trying to get at was - you've got to look over your shoulder wherever you are. Its not just the case for Afghanistan. BTW i think Afghanistan would be safer than New Orleans at the mo'... |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by blacksy on Feb 23, 2007 14:29:00 GMT 1, Does anyone have a few spare original banksy's sitting around doing nothing?
I hear the UKIP are looking to raise a few quid to settle a bill!
Perhaps thats a way political parties could start raising money, buy & sell art!
Instead of blowing up the middle east for the oil, lets all head out to LA / San Fran with some disc cutters and start removing Banksy's from their walls!
Does anyone have a few spare original banksy's sitting around doing nothing?
I hear the UKIP are looking to raise a few quid to settle a bill!
Perhaps thats a way political parties could start raising money, buy & sell art!
Instead of blowing up the middle east for the oil, lets all head out to LA / San Fran with some disc cutters and start removing Banksy's from their walls!
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by irf2112 on Feb 23, 2007 14:57:36 GMT 1, Does anyone have a few spare original banksy's sitting around doing nothing? I hear the UKIP are looking to raise a few quid to settle a bill! Perhaps thats a way political parties could start raising money, buy & sell art! Instead of blowing up the middle east for the oil, lets all head out to LA / San Fran with some disc cutters and start removing Banksy's from their walls!
Silky - Any relation to Kilroy Silk
Does anyone have a few spare original banksy's sitting around doing nothing? I hear the UKIP are looking to raise a few quid to settle a bill! Perhaps thats a way political parties could start raising money, buy & sell art! Instead of blowing up the middle east for the oil, lets all head out to LA / San Fran with some disc cutters and start removing Banksy's from their walls! Silky - Any relation to Kilroy Silk |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by numusic on Feb 23, 2007 15:35:15 GMT 1, I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like .
No disagreement there mate. Guess it's just a matter of semantics, was just a bit concerened with the "they're behind the human race" sentence, kinda implied they weren't human. A classic army training psychological trick hey, dehumanise the enemy. Then we get shocked when soldiers walk around with neck chains made out of human ears.
But you need no lectures from me on this i'm sure
Peace and love.. I've got your back
I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like . No disagreement there mate. Guess it's just a matter of semantics, was just a bit concerened with the "they're behind the human race" sentence, kinda implied they weren't human. A classic army training psychological trick hey, dehumanise the enemy. Then we get shocked when soldiers walk around with neck chains made out of human ears. But you need no lectures from me on this i'm sure Peace and love.. I've got your back |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by numusic on Feb 23, 2007 15:45:21 GMT 1, Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!!
Not if you're crossing a dual carriageway or driving down the M25 :-)
Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!! Not if you're crossing a dual carriageway or driving down the M25 :-) |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by numusic on Feb 23, 2007 15:46:08 GMT 1, I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like . What do you expect - first the US used the Afghans to fight against the Russians. Leaving a totally devistated place even more devistated. Then it was bombed senseless again. These people have grown up with war and now they're getting another all because of a gas pipeline that the US have wanted. Its tribal rule in such places, no law and order. But people aren't killing each other in huge droves... Unlike when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. There was mass rape, pillage, murder going on. All because there was no law. When certain countries are hit with a disaster they come together and help each other out. As for the US when disaster struck the people didnt stick together - I'd hope the UK would be different and we'd help each other out. So enough of that looking over your shoulder 'us-and-them' bollocks. And to cap it all off the worlds richest country have left their citizens in New Orleans to rot! A recent edition of top gear was shocking - it showed the city was still in a horrific state.
well said
I dont think its "Dangerous ground" Nu, I always state, they are My opinions, I too have travelled the world over and found many fantastic places and people to talk to but when I spent time in places like the Gulf and Afghanistan ive seen different sides that most have not, locals are mainly great but you always have to look over you shoulder for the not so nice locals if you know what I mean. Its easy for most to comment about what the goverment "Let you see on the news" and there policies but most do not really know what its like . What do you expect - first the US used the Afghans to fight against the Russians. Leaving a totally devistated place even more devistated. Then it was bombed senseless again. These people have grown up with war and now they're getting another all because of a gas pipeline that the US have wanted. Its tribal rule in such places, no law and order. But people aren't killing each other in huge droves... Unlike when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. There was mass rape, pillage, murder going on. All because there was no law. When certain countries are hit with a disaster they come together and help each other out. As for the US when disaster struck the people didnt stick together - I'd hope the UK would be different and we'd help each other out. So enough of that looking over your shoulder 'us-and-them' bollocks. And to cap it all off the worlds richest country have left their citizens in New Orleans to rot! A recent edition of top gear was shocking - it showed the city was still in a horrific state. well said |
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Wrong War. Blair withdraws troops., by numusic on Feb 23, 2007 15:47:27 GMT 1, Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!! Sorry mate, what i was trying to get at was - you've got to look over your shoulder wherever you are. Its not just the case for Afghanistan. BTW i think Afghanistan would be safer than New Orleans at the mo'...
Also keep in mind that they were still lynching and hanging people from lamposts in the US for the colour of their skin, just 50 years ago !!!
Good job Im not American then, Only joking. Fair point made I suppose. Looking over your shoulder is not bollocks, its life saving!!!! Sorry mate, what i was trying to get at was - you've got to look over your shoulder wherever you are. Its not just the case for Afghanistan. BTW i think Afghanistan would be safer than New Orleans at the mo'... Also keep in mind that they were still lynching and hanging people from lamposts in the US for the colour of their skin, just 50 years ago !!! |
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ya what! your havin a laugh ;D aint ya! you are aint ya! ;D surely 
I'd say other societies and religions are well in advance of the West both spiritually and intellectually. The seat of the all learning lies in the middle and far east. Love peace and harmony... we're just a bunch of ignorant credit card weilding materialistic consumer driven louts this side of the water 
