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Ed Ruscha 🇺🇸 Pop Art • New Print Release • Art For Sale, by Poster Bob on Oct 27, 2023 14:22:36 GMT 1, Another example of an artist releasing poor images that never should have seen the light of day.
Another example of an artist releasing poor images that never should have seen the light of day.
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Rashid Johnson 🇺🇸 Exhibition News • New Print Release , by Poster Bob on Oct 27, 2023 10:15:07 GMT 1, Jeez, whoever bought that was a real idiot. or a good way to launder money like a big portion of art at auction house Rules on purchases of that high in value are quite strict. You can’t just show up with a bag full of cash, no ID, and walk away.
Jeez, whoever bought that was a real idiot. or a good way to launder money like a big portion of art at auction house Rules on purchases of that high in value are quite strict. You can’t just show up with a bag full of cash, no ID, and walk away.
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Harland Miller Hate's Outta Date • 2017 & 2022, by Poster Bob on Oct 27, 2023 10:12:48 GMT 1, £7k didnt sold at auction house other day! so it gonna be worth less! Not receiving a bid at £7k means that there was no one willing to pay at a minimum £8.8, not that no one will pay £7k for it.
£7k didnt sold at auction house other day! so it gonna be worth less! Not receiving a bid at £7k means that there was no one willing to pay at a minimum £8.8, not that no one will pay £7k for it.
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Rachel Jones, Hepworth edition , by Poster Bob on Oct 25, 2023 17:08:27 GMT 1, None of the 5 available have sold at that tier. So either they have shockingly misjudged the demand for that pricing, or the information on its release has just not spread sufficiently wide enough for them to sell out.
None of the 5 available have sold at that tier. So either they have shockingly misjudged the demand for that pricing, or the information on its release has just not spread sufficiently wide enough for them to sell out.
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IFPDA 2023, by Poster Bob on Oct 25, 2023 14:20:23 GMT 1, Pricing on the Rashid Johnson? This release isn’t worthwhile if you’re after a profit, and I can say that without knowing the price. But, the state of the market might mean that you can actually get a reply out of them if you try. They’ve never responded to my emails regarding prints, even when I have included an extensive introduction and detailed my collection.
Pricing on the Rashid Johnson? This release isn’t worthwhile if you’re after a profit, and I can say that without knowing the price. But, the state of the market might mean that you can actually get a reply out of them if you try. They’ve never responded to my emails regarding prints, even when I have included an extensive introduction and detailed my collection.
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SANDRA CHEVRIER - ARTWORK, by Poster Bob on Oct 18, 2023 11:25:23 GMT 1, Are things really that slow that a catalog needs to be posted to a forum?
Are things really that slow that a catalog needs to be posted to a forum?
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Daniel Arsham 🇺🇸 New York • Eroded Future Relic, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2023 16:51:37 GMT 1, Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces. For me it's basically everything other than books or OG if bought from outside of EU. First import duty, than 23% Vat. You should pay 8%. This link is broken, but it was on page 14. Try and find a new version, and always quote it when dealing with an agent!
taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/resources/documents/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf
Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces. For me it's basically everything other than books or OG if bought from outside of EU. First import duty, than 23% Vat. You should pay 8%. This link is broken, but it was on page 14. Try and find a new version, and always quote it when dealing with an agent! taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/resources/documents/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf
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Peter Doig 🏴 Print Release • Scottish Painter, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2023 16:23:54 GMT 1, What's the import rate on these? Oct 5, 2023 at 2:00pm
What's the import rate on these? Oct 5, 2023 at 2:00pm
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Daniel Arsham 🇺🇸 New York • Eroded Future Relic, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2023 16:20:38 GMT 1, $9,500 + tax + ship which brought it to about $12,000 USD. Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces.
$9,500 + tax + ship which brought it to about $12,000 USD. Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces.
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Thierry Noir 🇨🇵 Berlin Wall • French Street Arist , by Poster Bob on Oct 9, 2023 14:39:33 GMT 1, If you look at the most recent sale for something from this series you’ll see that prices have changed, and can adjust your expectations accordingly.
If you look at the most recent sale for something from this series you’ll see that prices have changed, and can adjust your expectations accordingly.
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Pejac - New show - NYC, by Poster Bob on Oct 5, 2023 15:15:43 GMT 1, Here comes 10-20 pages about print “raffles” and buying postcards.
Here comes 10-20 pages about print “raffles” and buying postcards.
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Harland Miller “OUI” 2023 Limited Edition, by Poster Bob on Oct 5, 2023 15:14:13 GMT 1, I don’t like the image of the print when compared to that of the canvas. A shame, but either way I wasn’t in the market for this print.
I don’t like the image of the print when compared to that of the canvas. A shame, but either way I wasn’t in the market for this print.
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Peter Doig 🏴 Print Release • Scottish Painter, by Poster Bob on Oct 5, 2023 14:00:18 GMT 1, The same questions are asked every time HENI releases something.
They ALWAYS ship from the UK, and their shipping costs are very low.
You are subject to VAT based on where you live, and UK customers will pay 20%, anyone else will pay according to their country’s import tax rules on art. Some of them allow a favorable rate, but giclees may not fall into that favorable category. Normally you can just request it and the shipping agent is none the wiser.
They charge in dollars.
The HENI vault apparently no longer exists.
You will be blacklisted if you auction it and they see the edition number.
Now I’ll see the same questions asked another four or five times today.
The same questions are asked every time HENI releases something. They ALWAYS ship from the UK, and their shipping costs are very low. You are subject to VAT based on where you live, and UK customers will pay 20%, anyone else will pay according to their country’s import tax rules on art. Some of them allow a favorable rate, but giclees may not fall into that favorable category. Normally you can just request it and the shipping agent is none the wiser. They charge in dollars. The HENI vault apparently no longer exists. You will be blacklisted if you auction it and they see the edition number. Now I’ll see the same questions asked another four or five times today.
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Tide 🇯🇵 Tatsuhiro Ide • Cat • New Print Release , by Poster Bob on Oct 4, 2023 21:34:48 GMT 1, Yes, but remember sellers’, illustration, insurance, and shipping fees will take another 10% off of that $2,016. Unfortunately, anyone who was a preferred Avant Arte collector will now find that they can’t even get their money back on the majority of releases.
Yes, but remember sellers’, illustration, insurance, and shipping fees will take another 10% off of that $2,016. Unfortunately, anyone who was a preferred Avant Arte collector will now find that they can’t even get their money back on the majority of releases.
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Harland Miller “OUI” 2023 Limited Edition, by Poster Bob on Oct 4, 2023 14:38:52 GMT 1, Don’t agree with this. He’s a good artist who has had reasonable success but hasn’t made much progress is the art world in the last 5+ years. To be fair, I don't think any artists have made much progress in the art world in the last 5 years. Harland Miller doesn't bring out new release all that often. People will fight each other for one of these. Although, of course, the price may well frighten some people off (including me). This will be his fifth this year.
Don’t agree with this. He’s a good artist who has had reasonable success but hasn’t made much progress is the art world in the last 5+ years. To be fair, I don't think any artists have made much progress in the art world in the last 5 years. Harland Miller doesn't bring out new release all that often. People will fight each other for one of these. Although, of course, the price may well frighten some people off (including me). This will be his fifth this year.
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Harland Miller “OUI” 2023 Limited Edition, by Poster Bob on Oct 3, 2023 17:17:23 GMT 1, They will not sell well. The prices, as usual, will start off too high. They’ve been exclusively selling low-tiered prints to galleries and preferred collectors for too long, and as such, have not maximized their customer base. Factor in the current state of the market, where auction results show that the mid-tier prices from previous releases are currently unachievable at auction, and you’ve got a release that will never sell out. If you’re in this for anything other than the image, you should wait for something better. That said, I love the image.
They will not sell well. The prices, as usual, will start off too high. They’ve been exclusively selling low-tiered prints to galleries and preferred collectors for too long, and as such, have not maximized their customer base. Factor in the current state of the market, where auction results show that the mid-tier prices from previous releases are currently unachievable at auction, and you’ve got a release that will never sell out. If you’re in this for anything other than the image, you should wait for something better. That said, I love the image.
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Julie Curtiss 🇨🇵 New York Based • New Release • For Sale, by Poster Bob on Oct 3, 2023 11:23:04 GMT 1, I saw the image and said “nah”, then I saw the price and laughed out loud. Absolutely wild pricing and destined to stay around for years.
I saw the image and said “nah”, then I saw the price and laughed out loud. Absolutely wild pricing and destined to stay around for years.
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Szabolcs Bozo 🇭🇺 Szabi • Hungary • Fantastical Creatures , by Poster Bob on Oct 3, 2023 11:21:43 GMT 1, Avant Arte charge very high prices that remove all, if not more, of the difference between the initial price and the market price. They were able to do this for so long as they clearly had a very strong customer base who bought many releases per year. Look at the effects of inflation and rising interest rates and we now see that the constancy of sold-out releases has come to an end, and many are still available like: Shaina McCoy; Danielle Orchard; Takeru Amano; etc. Look at the decrease in demand for timed editions such as Jose Parla, figures for which fell massively YoY. Figures for the Elizabeth Peyton editions were never released, presumably because of how few were sold. Members are now unable to sell Avant releases at cost, or below. Don't assume any profitability from it, nor the ability to curry and favor with AA; only buy it if you love the image and want it in your home. I think Avant Arte have quietly released the Elizabeth Peyton edition figures - 100 and 40, crazy low given how much they pushed them I find it impossible to believe that the demand would have lead to such nice multiples of 10, so they seem padded. The image and price determines the sales figures. No one expected them to do well, but I would love to know how many were actually ordered.
Avant Arte charge very high prices that remove all, if not more, of the difference between the initial price and the market price. They were able to do this for so long as they clearly had a very strong customer base who bought many releases per year. Look at the effects of inflation and rising interest rates and we now see that the constancy of sold-out releases has come to an end, and many are still available like: Shaina McCoy; Danielle Orchard; Takeru Amano; etc. Look at the decrease in demand for timed editions such as Jose Parla, figures for which fell massively YoY. Figures for the Elizabeth Peyton editions were never released, presumably because of how few were sold. Members are now unable to sell Avant releases at cost, or below. Don't assume any profitability from it, nor the ability to curry and favor with AA; only buy it if you love the image and want it in your home. I think Avant Arte have quietly released the Elizabeth Peyton edition figures - 100 and 40, crazy low given how much they pushed them I find it impossible to believe that the demand would have lead to such nice multiples of 10, so they seem padded. The image and price determines the sales figures. No one expected them to do well, but I would love to know how many were actually ordered.
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Otis Kwame Kye Quaicoe 🇬🇭 Portrait Artist • Ghana, by Poster Bob on Oct 1, 2023 9:14:09 GMT 1, $800 on EBay
$800 on EBay
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ICA 75 Years Print Portfolio, by Poster Bob on Sept 26, 2023 14:33:39 GMT 1, That lackluster showcase of a mediocre roster isn’t going anywhere any time soon.
That lackluster showcase of a mediocre roster isn’t going anywhere any time soon.
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Nick Smith 🇬🇧 Pixelated Art • Colour Swatches • New Print, by Poster Bob on Sept 24, 2023 18:57:58 GMT 1, Framing adds no value to the print. You should use the price of the unframed copy as the going amount.
Framing adds no value to the print. You should use the price of the unframed copy as the going amount.
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Gerhard Richter 🇩🇪 Abstract • Contemporary Art • New Relea, by Poster Bob on Sept 22, 2023 15:43:23 GMT 1, So they made a few hundred quid? My sentiment remains - the piece absolutely tanked, which should be surprising to most (but kudos for latching on to the true intention of my post, which you expertly deciphered as: “please correct my grammar”.) A* contribution as always Bob. They should have profited by about £1,400 assuming a 10% seller’s fee and using today’s conversion figure, which is a shortcoming of the calculation. It’s unfair to say that the piece absolutely tanked without considering the state of the market. As such, I’d say that it did as expected.
So they made a few hundred quid? My sentiment remains - the piece absolutely tanked, which should be surprising to most (but kudos for latching on to the true intention of my post, which you expertly deciphered as: “please correct my grammar”.) A* contribution as always Bob. They should have profited by about £1,400 assuming a 10% seller’s fee and using today’s conversion figure, which is a shortcoming of the calculation. It’s unfair to say that the piece absolutely tanked without considering the state of the market. As such, I’d say that it did as expected.
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Gerhard Richter 🇩🇪 Abstract • Contemporary Art • New Relea, by Poster Bob on Sept 22, 2023 14:31:17 GMT 1, Holy moly. This tanked at auction! What gives? Buyer would’ve netted less than cost :/ I think you meant to say that “the seller would have net less than cost” which is simply untrue unless they agreed to pay over 36% in fees. (I used today’s GBP/EUR conversion as opposed to a historical one)
Holy moly. This tanked at auction! What gives? Buyer would’ve netted less than cost :/ I think you meant to say that “the seller would have net less than cost” which is simply untrue unless they agreed to pay over 36% in fees. (I used today’s GBP/EUR conversion as opposed to a historical one)
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Poster Bob on Sept 20, 2023 15:10:57 GMT 1, I’ve got one for £2,250 if anyone is interested. Located near Millwall. True brue we’s is.
I’ve got one for £2,250 if anyone is interested. Located near Millwall. True brue we’s is.
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Royal mail insurance Dont risk it! (probably), by Poster Bob on Sept 15, 2023 11:28:33 GMT 1, I also don’t understand what has occurred but have previously been compensated by RM for the sales price of items. I’ve said it before but virtually all couriers will take your money for insurance but they have clauses excluding them from liability for art, antiques, collectibles, anything that has appreciated in value, the list goes on.
I also don’t understand what has occurred but have previously been compensated by RM for the sales price of items. I’ve said it before but virtually all couriers will take your money for insurance but they have clauses excluding them from liability for art, antiques, collectibles, anything that has appreciated in value, the list goes on.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Poster Bob on Aug 29, 2023 13:25:57 GMT 1, Also does anyone know how long they are taking to convert NFT deeds into phyisical at the moment? They quote 3 months but I believe are dispatching quicker than this. Is that correct? Around 3 months is correct from my experience. Currently on day 50 or so and still waiting for the most recent one I exchanged.
Also does anyone know how long they are taking to convert NFT deeds into phyisical at the moment? They quote 3 months but I believe are dispatching quicker than this. Is that correct? Around 3 months is correct from my experience. Currently on day 50 or so and still waiting for the most recent one I exchanged.
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Tracey Emin, Just Waiting (2022), by Poster Bob on Aug 24, 2023 14:39:17 GMT 1, If you’re offering at cost why not see if you can get a refund? Because first-tier as he put it was £6k, which was £4.8k after applying the 20% discount code and he’d prefer a profit. Which there is no issue with.
If you’re offering at cost why not see if you can get a refund? Because first-tier as he put it was £6k, which was £4.8k after applying the 20% discount code and he’d prefer a profit. Which there is no issue with.
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