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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Apr 5, 2007 0:12:52 GMT 1, Got my shipment confirmation Lovin this one.
Got my shipment confirmation Lovin this one.
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Mar 1, 2007 23:44:29 GMT 1, Did any one get the arrows print on tuesday?
I was able to score one, though I missed out on Peace Goddes (Im happy
Did any one get the arrows print on tuesday? I was able to score one, though I missed out on Peace Goddes (Im happy
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Jan 9, 2007 22:37:44 GMT 1, I dont latch on to all of your posts Martin. Like you just said I dont have the time to read all of your posts. I read the topics that interest me, one being the Obey thread. I just dont understand how someone can be mad at an artist for having quick sell outs, Im happy for Shep he's a stand up guy and deserves the success. 4 weeks ago he had no limit on the number of prints you could buy and the prints would sit on the site for months at a time. Now as his popularity has grown he's limited it to 2 per person. He himself has just stated ""I have very little to complain about regarding the support for my art, there are couple of things that frustrate me. One has has been the problem with people missing out because a print sold out too quickly."
I think Shep hears where you are coming from but its not really him you should be focusing your frustration on. Street artists have put out some amazing work lately and the "scene" has become MUCH more popular (obviously). I think your frustration should be directed at the scene not the artist.
Shep has let peeps know what day and around what time his prints go on sale, isnnt that enough? If you want one you know when and where to get it online. I flew out to LA (spending $1000) hoping Id have a chance at buying a Banksy print, that was the dedication I had to get a print. For an Obey print its much easier, come on now.
Hate the game, not the artist.
I dont latch on to all of your posts Martin. Like you just said I dont have the time to read all of your posts. I read the topics that interest me, one being the Obey thread. I just dont understand how someone can be mad at an artist for having quick sell outs, Im happy for Shep he's a stand up guy and deserves the success. 4 weeks ago he had no limit on the number of prints you could buy and the prints would sit on the site for months at a time. Now as his popularity has grown he's limited it to 2 per person. He himself has just stated ""I have very little to complain about regarding the support for my art, there are couple of things that frustrate me. One has has been the problem with people missing out because a print sold out too quickly."
I think Shep hears where you are coming from but its not really him you should be focusing your frustration on. Street artists have put out some amazing work lately and the "scene" has become MUCH more popular (obviously). I think your frustration should be directed at the scene not the artist.
Shep has let peeps know what day and around what time his prints go on sale, isnnt that enough? If you want one you know when and where to get it online. I flew out to LA (spending $1000) hoping Id have a chance at buying a Banksy print, that was the dedication I had to get a print. For an Obey print its much easier, come on now.
Hate the game, not the artist.
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Jan 9, 2007 22:15:38 GMT 1, Im really confused by your statements bro. How can a fast sell out turn you off to an artist? Should Shep make less attractive work so it sells out slower. If POW had a system that could handle the site traffic would you then be turned off to Banksy because it would sell out in seconds? This print sold out in 6 minutes, the quickest yet. Its a very attractive image and those that were dedicated had plenty of time to purchase it. If POW had a checkout system that could handle the traffic the prints would be gone in alot less than 6 minutes.
You still have a chance at one from Shepard's site. The jerk is giving some away for free: "I have very little to complain about regarding the support for my art, but there are couple of things that frustrate me. One has has been the problem with people missing out because a print sold out too quickly. The second is people misunderstanding what my political motivations are. With this print I have decided to tackle both problems with one solution. I recently watched a great documentary called IRAQ FOR SALE:THE WAR PROFITEERS. I knew that companies like Haliburton were ripping off the government and therefore all of us as taxpayers, but this film shows the real depth of the problems and the extent of shady business dealings between corporations and our government. I recommend the film to anyone, but as an added incentive I am holding back 25 "Proud Parents" prints to be given free except the price of shipping to anyone who sends a photo of themselves holding a copy of the movie in their home. Send your photographs of you and a copy of the movie to info@obeygiant.com. Don't lend one copy to five friends and try to get over. Get all five friends to buy a copy and lend it to their five friends... please. The film and more info is available at iraqforsale.org or bravenewfilms.org. Brave New Films is also behind the excellent OUTFOXED and WALMART:THE HIGH COST OF LOW PRICES. Check it all out. -Shepard "
Im really confused by your statements bro. How can a fast sell out turn you off to an artist? Should Shep make less attractive work so it sells out slower. If POW had a system that could handle the site traffic would you then be turned off to Banksy because it would sell out in seconds? This print sold out in 6 minutes, the quickest yet. Its a very attractive image and those that were dedicated had plenty of time to purchase it. If POW had a checkout system that could handle the traffic the prints would be gone in alot less than 6 minutes. You still have a chance at one from Shepard's site. The jerk is giving some away for free: "I have very little to complain about regarding the support for my art, but there are couple of things that frustrate me. One has has been the problem with people missing out because a print sold out too quickly. The second is people misunderstanding what my political motivations are. With this print I have decided to tackle both problems with one solution. I recently watched a great documentary called IRAQ FOR SALE:THE WAR PROFITEERS. I knew that companies like Haliburton were ripping off the government and therefore all of us as taxpayers, but this film shows the real depth of the problems and the extent of shady business dealings between corporations and our government. I recommend the film to anyone, but as an added incentive I am holding back 25 "Proud Parents" prints to be given free except the price of shipping to anyone who sends a photo of themselves holding a copy of the movie in their home. Send your photographs of you and a copy of the movie to info@obeygiant.com. Don't lend one copy to five friends and try to get over. Get all five friends to buy a copy and lend it to their five friends... please. The film and more info is available at iraqforsale.org or bravenewfilms.org. Brave New Films is also behind the excellent OUTFOXED and WALMART:THE HIGH COST OF LOW PRICES. Check it all out. -Shepard "
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Jan 8, 2007 11:59:59 GMT 1,
The free Peace Fingers is a different version of an already existing print.
The free Peace Fingers is a different version of an already existing print.
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Jan 7, 2007 12:45:05 GMT 1,
Should he have taken a pole to see which piece he should give away for free? I really like Peace Fingers as do alot of folks. This image (in a special color) was actually also what he gave away to 100 or so friends and family at Christmas, so he must like it too.
Should he have taken a pole to see which piece he should give away for free? I really like Peace Fingers as do alot of folks. This image (in a special color) was actually also what he gave away to 100 or so friends and family at Christmas, so he must like it too.
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Dec 30, 2006 12:08:33 GMT 1, Art Republic now selling Obey. This is new right?
Art Republic now selling Obey. This is new right?
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Sept 13, 2006 9:22:32 GMT 1, April gone? ? Big thanks for the info Im witing on a HUGE order (including 2 Godfather sets & 3 This Is A Posters) and have been dealing with April directly. Most of my orders went through her directly and not the site itslef. I better call them. Good luck with the This is A Poster - my order from 8/16 was canceled today by Dan as they no longer have them, even though my order was in a full two weeks before they sold out. All I can say is I'm glad April is gone.
April told me she is there 2 more weeks. I better get my This Is a Poster as I ordered them the 1st day they were on the site (June/ July)...
April gone? ? Big thanks for the info Im witing on a HUGE order (including 2 Godfather sets & 3 This Is A Posters) and have been dealing with April directly. Most of my orders went through her directly and not the site itslef. I better call them. Good luck with the This is A Poster - my order from 8/16 was canceled today by Dan as they no longer have them, even though my order was in a full two weeks before they sold out. All I can say is I'm glad April is gone. April told me she is there 2 more weeks. I better get my This Is a Poster as I ordered them the 1st day they were on the site (June/ July)...
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Sept 12, 2006 22:43:49 GMT 1, April gone?? Big thanks for the info Im witing on a HUGE order (including 2 Godfather sets & 3 This Is A Posters) and have been dealing with April directly. Most of my orders went through her directly and not the site itslef. I better call them.
April gone? ? Big thanks for the info Im witing on a HUGE order (including 2 Godfather sets & 3 This Is A Posters) and have been dealing with April directly. Most of my orders went through her directly and not the site itslef. I better call them.
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Aug 30, 2006 20:17:51 GMT 1, On an opposite note they had Godfather sets on their site yesterday for a few hours for $100. Great deal (if you ever get them). For me in the US I get everything (eventually) sometimes it takes a few months and a couple phone calls but it comes.....
On an opposite note they had Godfather sets on their site yesterday for a few hours for $100. Great deal (if you ever get them). For me in the US I get everything (eventually) sometimes it takes a few months and a couple phone calls but it comes.....
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Shepard Fairey + The Most Fan Friendly Artist?, by bonesy on Jul 9, 2006 0:28:12 GMT 1, Hello everyone.
I order from Obey very often and Obey's shipping does suck. Domestically in the US my biggest complaint is that they only ship via UPS Ground (the worst); Id say 1 outa 4-5 tubes ends up damaged in transit. Most tragically I purchased 10 of the 50 signed Walk The Line prints and they were damaged by the intern that packaged them into a triangle mailer, with no tube! I called them and asked how they could be so careless with 20% of the run (?). I got an apology, an offer to return them, and free stickers .
April is the big cheese there and she is VERY friendly. Studio One's (Obey studio) is on the Paypal receipt when you submit an order 213-383-9299. They dont answer emails but they do answer the phone and are very good.
I placed 1 order from duckywaddles (a red Motorhead) and it arrived with numbers and letters written in pencil on the back. I called them to see what this was about as I knew it wasnt Shep's writing. The fella on the phone was crazy arrogant to me and said that was his writing and that was his inventory system. I erased it and it is less visible but I dont want some random cats chicken scratch on the back of my print. Just a heads up before you buy there $3,000 Beatles set.
Looks like you guys got a good board here I look forward to becoming a regular
Hello everyone. I order from Obey very often and Obey's shipping does suck. Domestically in the US my biggest complaint is that they only ship via UPS Ground (the worst); Id say 1 outa 4-5 tubes ends up damaged in transit. Most tragically I purchased 10 of the 50 signed Walk The Line prints and they were damaged by the intern that packaged them into a triangle mailer, with no tube! I called them and asked how they could be so careless with 20% of the run (?). I got an apology, an offer to return them, and free stickers . April is the big cheese there and she is VERY friendly. Studio One's (Obey studio) is on the Paypal receipt when you submit an order 213-383-9299. They dont answer emails but they do answer the phone and are very good. I placed 1 order from duckywaddles (a red Motorhead) and it arrived with numbers and letters written in pencil on the back. I called them to see what this was about as I knew it wasnt Shep's writing. The fella on the phone was crazy arrogant to me and said that was his writing and that was his inventory system. I erased it and it is less visible but I dont want some random cats chicken scratch on the back of my print. Just a heads up before you buy there $3,000 Beatles set. Looks like you guys got a good board here I look forward to becoming a regular
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Obey - Proud Parents, by bonesy on Aug 29, 2007 14:33:45 GMT 1, Couldn't agree more. I love it. I know it's been released before and that this is an offset, but at the price I'm really surprised this is still around today.
The Obey offsets are very nice on thick stock, not what you typically think of as an offset.
Couldn't agree more. I love it. I know it's been released before and that this is an offset, but at the price I'm really surprised this is still around today. The Obey offsets are very nice on thick stock, not what you typically think of as an offset.
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Graffle check it out, by bonesy on Dec 21, 2007 3:03:18 GMT 1, Think it's to do with UK lottery laws, don't think it's deliberate.
That makes sense.
Think it's to do with UK lottery laws, don't think it's deliberate. That makes sense.
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Graffle check it out, by bonesy on Dec 21, 2007 2:00:09 GMT 1, If this is for charity why are they limiting it to UK residents only? Its a great cause and I dont mean to dis it, but surely if it were open to anyone they would raise much more money.
If this is for charity why are they limiting it to UK residents only? Its a great cause and I dont mean to dis it, but surely if it were open to anyone they would raise much more money.
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More Beautiful Losers on POW, by bonesy on Sept 28, 2007 10:12:54 GMT 1, when BL sold them on ebay the postage was only $50, I mean only compared to the hundred and more from their site. It was, however, the best packaged print I have ever bought. I bought the Chris Johanson piece and I have the Pettibon, both great prints
The Beautiful Losers handle on ebay (out of Japan) is not the Beautiful Losers that are producing these prints (Iconoclast).
when BL sold them on ebay the postage was only $50, I mean only compared to the hundred and more from their site. It was, however, the best packaged print I have ever bought. I bought the Chris Johanson piece and I have the Pettibon, both great prints The Beautiful Losers handle on ebay (out of Japan) is not the Beautiful Losers that are producing these prints (Iconoclast).
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More Beautiful Losers on POW, by bonesy on May 18, 2007 23:34:46 GMT 1, The Shepard Fairey Soup Can is by far the nicest print from these guys thats still avail for a resonable price.
The Shepard Fairey Soup Can is by far the nicest print from these guys thats still avail for a resonable price.
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Titi Freak ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Street Art โข Hamilton Yokota, by bonesy on Oct 7, 2007 12:27:46 GMT 1, Very impressive Mose!
Very impressive Mose!
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Dear POW..., by bonesy on Aug 21, 2007 18:46:48 GMT 1, That was just after LA before he was what he has becxome. I think at this point the stagger release of prints is just some sort of marketing angle in keeping his stuff out of peoples hands, demand high, and values higher. Banksy wouldn't be thinking like that, Banksy has deliberately kept the prices low himself.
I dont think Banksy would be thinking in those terms but I think Steve LaZarides who manages his career could, right?
That was just after LA before he was what he has becxome. I think at this point the stagger release of prints is just some sort of marketing angle in keeping his stuff out of peoples hands, demand high, and values higher. Banksy wouldn't be thinking like that, Banksy has deliberately kept the prices low himself. I dont think Banksy would be thinking in those terms but I think Steve LaZarides who manages his career could, right?
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Dear POW..., by bonesy on Aug 21, 2007 14:36:12 GMT 1, From POW last October!!!! ""Weโre putting all six images up on the site so you can see whatโs coming and wonโt spend all your pocketmoney on the first one you see. The second print (trolley hunting) will follow as soon as weโve cleared the backlog from the first one and so on and will be staggered from now until Christmas. Or sometime next August if you keep on calling up day and night.""" So who kept bloody calling them!!!
That was just after LA before he was what he has becxome. I think at this point the stagger release of prints is just some sort of marketing angle in keeping his stuff out of peoples hands, demand high, and values higher.
From POW last October!!!! ""Weโre putting all six images up on the site so you can see whatโs coming and wonโt spend all your pocketmoney on the first one you see. The second print (trolley hunting) will follow as soon as weโve cleared the backlog from the first one and so on and will be staggered from now until Christmas. Or sometime next August if you keep on calling up day and night.""" So who kept bloody calling them!!! That was just after LA before he was what he has becxome. I think at this point the stagger release of prints is just some sort of marketing angle in keeping his stuff out of peoples hands, demand high, and values higher.
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Beautiful losers, by bonesy on Apr 2, 2007 0:14:00 GMT 1, Expensive postage to the UK though $104. WOW that is expensive.
Iconoclast does ship there prints flat in boxes if it makes ya feel any better about the shipping.
Expensive postage to the UK though $104. WOW that is expensive. Iconoclast does ship there prints flat in boxes if it makes ya feel any better about the shipping.
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Beautiful losers, by bonesy on Mar 30, 2007 11:13:28 GMT 1,
Exactly thus no Kaws, Fairey, or McGinness. It's amusing. I wonder who contacted who to set this up.
Exactly thus no Kaws, Fairey, or McGinness. It's amusing. I wonder who contacted who to set this up.
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 19:05:44 GMT 1, Your right on the friends thing, I shouldnt take for fact what someone has said. And the extras for replacements argument I can understand (though I would like to see them have different numbers).
But the real thing bothering me is the extras still around after all the possible shipping damages have been taken care of. Having unlabeled extras months after the fact can only lead to problems down the road. And having a replacement for a damaged 8 months after the sale when it wasnt POW shipping that damaged it I totally dont agree with.
Your right on the friends thing, I shouldnt take for fact what someone has said. And the extras for replacements argument I can understand (though I would like to see them have different numbers).
But the real thing bothering me is the extras still around after all the possible shipping damages have been taken care of. Having unlabeled extras months after the fact can only lead to problems down the road. And having a replacement for a damaged 8 months after the sale when it wasnt POW shipping that damaged it I totally dont agree with.
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 15:59:02 GMT 1, Further.... I didnt even initially pick up on this part of that initial DFACE quote. This cat went to POW with a print they forgot to number and they numbered it for him. If there are unnumbered prints in existence that they are aware of and not part of the numbered run then how can they randomly number an old Banksy print and make it part of the numbered edition. I find it amazing that Im the only one that sees a problem in any of this. I know the POW folks are good honest peeps but.... Thay have a list of numbers that are assigned to owners, so they would just be correcting their mistake, if you try walking in with an unnumbered turf war (they have been for sale on ebay) they won't number it.
But if I bought Turf War #243 and sold Turf War #243 then got an unnumbered Turf War I could bring it in and get #243 assigned to it by merely stating it was never numbered.
Further.... I didnt even initially pick up on this part of that initial DFACE quote. This cat went to POW with a print they forgot to number and they numbered it for him. If there are unnumbered prints in existence that they are aware of and not part of the numbered run then how can they randomly number an old Banksy print and make it part of the numbered edition. I find it amazing that Im the only one that sees a problem in any of this. I know the POW folks are good honest peeps but.... Thay have a list of numbers that are assigned to owners, so they would just be correcting their mistake, if you try walking in with an unnumbered turf war (they have been for sale on ebay) they won't number it. But if I bought Turf War #243 and sold Turf War #243 then got an unnumbered Turf War I could bring it in and get #243 assigned to it by merely stating it was never numbered.
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 15:47:29 GMT 1,
Further.... I didnt even initially pick up on this part of that initial DFACE quote. This cat went to POW with a print they forgot to number and they numbered it for him. If there are unnumbered prints in existence that they are aware of and not part of the numbered run then how can they randomly number an old Banksy print and make it part of the numbered edition. I find it amazing that Im the only one that sees a problem in any of this. I know the POW folks are good honest peeps but....
Further.... I didnt even initially pick up on this part of that initial DFACE quote. This cat went to POW with a print they forgot to number and they numbered it for him. If there are unnumbered prints in existence that they are aware of and not part of the numbered run then how can they randomly number an old Banksy print and make it part of the numbered edition. I find it amazing that Im the only one that sees a problem in any of this. I know the POW folks are good honest peeps but....
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 15:39:03 GMT 1,
Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying they replaced a damaged print 8 months after purchase that wasnt damaged in the initial shipping?
Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying they replaced a damaged print 8 months after purchase that wasnt damaged in the initial shipping?
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 15:36:57 GMT 1, If they were stamped SAMPLE then I would have no problem with pieces kicking around. I do like the fact that they are able to offer exchanges for damaged pieces. In my opinion that 2nd piece should have a different number though. If #83 is damaged I dont think a new #83 should be issued. Most artists put aside a percentage of the run for damage issues. This is what I think POW should ideally do. Sell 90% and save 10% for these damage issues. If you have to sell 500 pieces then make 550 and number them out of 550 but only sell 500. This way you have your replacements, you are selling just as many, and everything is labeled.
If they were stamped SAMPLE then I would have no problem with pieces kicking around. I do like the fact that they are able to offer exchanges for damaged pieces. In my opinion that 2nd piece should have a different number though. If #83 is damaged I dont think a new #83 should be issued. Most artists put aside a percentage of the run for damage issues. This is what I think POW should ideally do. Sell 90% and save 10% for these damage issues. If you have to sell 500 pieces then make 550 and number them out of 550 but only sell 500. This way you have your replacements, you are selling just as many, and everything is labeled.
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 14:34:13 GMT 1, And I just lost a "respect point" some how? Thou shall not question POW.
And I just lost a "respect point" some how? Thou shall not question POW.
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 14:31:53 GMT 1,
See that shouldnt be an option, it really jeopardizes the integrity of the print run. The print run should be X number produced and after time the number of prints "out there" should diminish by a few through damages and what not. If you have a numbered Warhol that gets damaged should you be able to phone the Estate and get a replacement with the same number? (I dont think most Warhol's are numbered but you get what Im saying).
500 are produced and numbered. They should sell 90% of the run and keep 10% of the numbered edition for damages and such. All this does is protect the integrity of the run. Unnumbered pieces floating around, even behind POW doors, can only lead to problems IMO. This practice of theirs is not typical.
See that shouldnt be an option, it really jeopardizes the integrity of the print run. The print run should be X number produced and after time the number of prints "out there" should diminish by a few through damages and what not. If you have a numbered Warhol that gets damaged should you be able to phone the Estate and get a replacement with the same number? (I dont think most Warhol's are numbered but you get what Im saying).
500 are produced and numbered. They should sell 90% of the run and keep 10% of the numbered edition for damages and such. All this does is protect the integrity of the run. Unnumbered pieces floating around, even behind POW doors, can only lead to problems IMO. This practice of theirs is not typical.
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POWs "extra" Prints, by bonesy on Feb 10, 2007 13:06:37 GMT 1, I think Im in the minority here but does it bother anyone else that POW prints "extras" that are not numbered with the rest of the edition? I know these are supposedly for replacing damages and what not but IMO once an edition is numbered and closed then that should be the end of it. If they have some shipping damages that they want to replace then they should set some of the numbered extras aside for this purpose. In the US in certain states there are actually laws against this type of thing pertaining to limited edition items.
This recent quote on the DFACE board particularly struck me: "I went to POW the other week to get my Weston Super Mare Banksy numbered (they originally fogot to number it). Anyway, when I was there they had loads of spare Hates filed. I guess they were for damaged and friends but the Black one looked amazing, gutted to have missed it."
First off "for friends" well if "friends" get an unnumbered part of the run then the number in the publics hands is larger than the advertised edition size. BUT more importantly the HATE edition is sold out. Why do they still have these on hand? Surely all damages have been replaced by now. I highly doubt these "erxtras" will be destroyed at this point.
I realize there are not alot of unnumbered POW prints floating around out there but regardless when producing limited artwork there should not be any that are not numbered or labeled AP (up to 10% of the run).
I think Im in the minority here but does it bother anyone else that POW prints "extras" that are not numbered with the rest of the edition? I know these are supposedly for replacing damages and what not but IMO once an edition is numbered and closed then that should be the end of it. If they have some shipping damages that they want to replace then they should set some of the numbered extras aside for this purpose. In the US in certain states there are actually laws against this type of thing pertaining to limited edition items.
This recent quote on the DFACE board particularly struck me: "I went to POW the other week to get my Weston Super Mare Banksy numbered (they originally fogot to number it). Anyway, when I was there they had loads of spare Hates filed. I guess they were for damaged and friends but the Black one looked amazing, gutted to have missed it."
First off "for friends" well if "friends" get an unnumbered part of the run then the number in the publics hands is larger than the advertised edition size. BUT more importantly the HATE edition is sold out. Why do they still have these on hand? Surely all damages have been replaced by now. I highly doubt these "erxtras" will be destroyed at this point.
I realize there are not alot of unnumbered POW prints floating around out there but regardless when producing limited artwork there should not be any that are not numbered or labeled AP (up to 10% of the run).
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