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DALeast ๐จ๐ณ Wuhan, China โข Street Art โข Based in Cape Town, by twist65 on Jul 5, 2013 10:44:14 GMT 1, fair do's Vandalog for admitting you made a few mistakes here, and i agree with you that regardless of the way it was reported the essence of your argument is valid. If a blog is hyping an artist from a supposed neutral journalistic standpoint when in fact they manage him, then they deserve to get called out for that. Though I would still kind of expect a street art blog to post about artists they either liked personally or had some sort of financially beneficial arrangement with, be it "management" or receiving prints in kind etc.
It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to turn a passion into a profession, and I suppose these grey areas are just a bi-product of this. The pros outweigh the cons though. It's great to have a wealth of street art news and pics out there, and it's up to the individual to use their own judgement on the merits of the artist and the motives of the post/blog/blogger.
fair do's Vandalog for admitting you made a few mistakes here, and i agree with you that regardless of the way it was reported the essence of your argument is valid. If a blog is hyping an artist from a supposed neutral journalistic standpoint when in fact they manage him, then they deserve to get called out for that. Though I would still kind of expect a street art blog to post about artists they either liked personally or had some sort of financially beneficial arrangement with, be it "management" or receiving prints in kind etc.
It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to turn a passion into a profession, and I suppose these grey areas are just a bi-product of this. The pros outweigh the cons though. It's great to have a wealth of street art news and pics out there, and it's up to the individual to use their own judgement on the merits of the artist and the motives of the post/blog/blogger.
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DALeast ๐จ๐ณ Wuhan, China โข Street Art โข Based in Cape Town, by twist65 on Jul 3, 2013 12:17:41 GMT 1, totally agree with sohohoho.. Anyone who regularly dips into SAN is more than aware of which artists they have a professional relationship with, and which they just like.Pretty sure there's still a link to their recent prints catalogue on there too. Vandalog is more than guilty of promoting artists who they work with/have worked with in the past, without disclaiming their bias or relationship (the pitiful Hanksy anyone??), and I bet most of the artists who get plenty of coverage on there just happen to feature in RJ or his familys art collections... I would be tempted to look at yourself before posting some petty blog-war or sensationalised personal dig as it looks kind of pathetic.
It's also plainly obvious that DAL has someone secure walls for him to paint, so he can just get on with painting them. If this upsets artists who have painted the spot previously, then maybe they need to either grow up or just paint canvases instead of public spaces. And if DAL prefers to make some cool/cryptic comment in an interview then perhaps he just doesn't really take interviews too seriously, or a language barrier prevents him from going into eloquent details?
For transparency, I don't own any work by DAL, and I don't even like his style although admit its impressive from a technical point of view. And like this forum I enjoy both Vandalog and SAN for their news. =]
totally agree with sohohoho.. Anyone who regularly dips into SAN is more than aware of which artists they have a professional relationship with, and which they just like.Pretty sure there's still a link to their recent prints catalogue on there too. Vandalog is more than guilty of promoting artists who they work with/have worked with in the past, without disclaiming their bias or relationship (the pitiful Hanksy anyone??), and I bet most of the artists who get plenty of coverage on there just happen to feature in RJ or his familys art collections... I would be tempted to look at yourself before posting some petty blog-war or sensationalised personal dig as it looks kind of pathetic.
It's also plainly obvious that DAL has someone secure walls for him to paint, so he can just get on with painting them. If this upsets artists who have painted the spot previously, then maybe they need to either grow up or just paint canvases instead of public spaces. And if DAL prefers to make some cool/cryptic comment in an interview then perhaps he just doesn't really take interviews too seriously, or a language barrier prevents him from going into eloquent details?
For transparency, I don't own any work by DAL, and I don't even like his style although admit its impressive from a technical point of view. And like this forum I enjoy both Vandalog and SAN for their news. =]
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Wedding Gift Art, by twist65 on Jul 2, 2013 23:56:50 GMT 1, I always feel funny buying art for someone elses home, i'd try and get something small in case they're not too keen and want to stick it in the downstairs loo or something!
Keep an eye on Mr Bingo's twitter and see if you can bag them a Hate Mail postcard. But personally i'd go for this.. =]
I always feel funny buying art for someone elses home, i'd try and get something small in case they're not too keen and want to stick it in the downstairs loo or something! Keep an eye on Mr Bingo's twitter and see if you can bag them a Hate Mail postcard. But personally i'd go for this.. =]
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FS Invader Kit nยฐ6 Runner sealed , by twist65 on Jun 26, 2013 18:06:43 GMT 1, there were 150 numbered, plus 50 signed, 200 in total so if this is 150/150 it'll be numbered =]
there were 150 numbered, plus 50 signed, 200 in total so if this is 150/150 it'll be numbered =]
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SOLD, by twist65 on Jun 26, 2013 15:22:19 GMT 1, worth giving shadowuk a shout he was looking for some stik..
worth giving shadowuk a shout he was looking for some stik..
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INTO THE DARK, by twist65 on Jun 26, 2013 1:02:19 GMT 1, dammit I totally picked the wrong week to go to centre parcs with the kids! congrats Danny, awesome pics too hope there's a sequel =]
dammit I totally picked the wrong week to go to centre parcs with the kids! congrats Danny, awesome pics too hope there's a sequel =]
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by twist65 on Jun 26, 2013 0:58:07 GMT 1, ah cheers feral/anbes/mikey! really wish I could have got to this one, some real stunners there.. =]
ah cheers feral/anbes/mikey! really wish I could have got to this one, some real stunners there.. =]
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Eelus Giveaway ***WINNER***, by twist65 on Jun 25, 2013 15:09:30 GMT 1, ooh yes please! yeah remember this one from Elektric Sheep in Newcastle, a much better image than the new print imo =]
ooh yes please! yeah remember this one from Elektric Sheep in Newcastle, a much better image than the new print imo =]
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WELCOME TO REALITY, by twist65 on Jun 25, 2013 0:56:51 GMT 1, lovely Bast =]
lovely Bast =]
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by twist65 on Jun 24, 2013 23:32:54 GMT 1, does anyone have a pdf for this show? also would like a paster if anyone has one!
does anyone have a pdf for this show? also would like a paster if anyone has one!
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Art ideas for Kids Room, by twist65 on Jun 24, 2013 17:55:51 GMT 1, because its a lot cheaper, easier and less time consuming perhaps?
because its a lot cheaper, easier and less time consuming perhaps?
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Thanks .., by twist65 on Jun 24, 2013 15:13:21 GMT 1, congrats reid and speebe too (great pic!)! and well done Anbesivam too, good man. Defo echo the thoughts above - get some sleep while you can!! =]
congrats reid and speebe too (great pic!)! and well done Anbesivam too, good man. Defo echo the thoughts above - get some sleep while you can!! =]
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Art ideas for Kids Room, by twist65 on Jun 24, 2013 15:06:19 GMT 1, yeah i decided against murals in the kids rooms for the same reason.. your 9-year-old might like this jon burgerman wallpaper though, a great way to encourage them to draw on walls from a young age!!
burgerplex.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=167
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ANTONY MICALLEF 'I SHIT DIAMONDS' PRINT @ LAZ, by twist65 on Jun 6, 2013 12:25:53 GMT 1, hopefully no smudged lippy when framed! =]
hopefully no smudged lippy when framed! =]
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ANTONY MICALLEF 'I SHIT DIAMONDS' PRINT @ LAZ, by twist65 on Jun 6, 2013 11:58:22 GMT 1, yeah, 'tis nice tho..
yeah, 'tis nice tho..
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BON ETCHINGS RELEASED @ SOULED OUT STUDIOS 4PM 28/5/13, by twist65 on May 28, 2013 14:21:35 GMT 1, Bon's got a nice style. I remember seeing some painting of his on here a few years back and really enjoyed them. If anyone has older work of his I'd love to see it. I also read somewhere SOS was planning a large group show later this year. Any other info floating around out there? from SOS homepage - For those who still don't know much about this guy he's Asias most prolific street artist, painting tirelessly on the street, and has been with Souled Out almost since its founding..... hopefully he'll be flying to the UK with us in October for our show.
Bon's got a nice style. I remember seeing some painting of his on here a few years back and really enjoyed them. If anyone has older work of his I'd love to see it. I also read somewhere SOS was planning a large group show later this year. Any other info floating around out there? from SOS homepage - For those who still don't know much about this guy he's Asias most prolific street artist, painting tirelessly on the street, and has been with Souled Out almost since its founding..... hopefully he'll be flying to the UK with us in October for our show.
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Bast at POW, by twist65 on May 28, 2013 13:40:47 GMT 1, personally think its a much stronger image than Strap Hanger, but yeah larger edition size and not great website image probably haven't helped it.. Agree there's a lot worse that has sold out on POW just cos its POW.. Some lower editions at $1000-1200 still on Papermonster too, which is probably a fair bit more than a similar spec would sell on his own site and not his best ever images but prob would have sold out pretty quickly for the same price on Laz!
personally think its a much stronger image than Strap Hanger, but yeah larger edition size and not great website image probably haven't helped it.. Agree there's a lot worse that has sold out on POW just cos its POW.. Some lower editions at $1000-1200 still on Papermonster too, which is probably a fair bit more than a similar spec would sell on his own site and not his best ever images but prob would have sold out pretty quickly for the same price on Laz!
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DOLK 'EVOLUTION' & 'CROWN' PRINTS @ HMP NEXT WEEK, by twist65 on May 23, 2013 13:45:08 GMT 1, Personally I'm not complaining about the prices as I don't want to buy one. I just think it's incredible that Dolk can command ยฃ900 for an edition of 45 hand finished prints from source.
Ok they're large, but what other artist in this scene, Banksy aside, could do the same? D*Face? Dran? Faile? Bast? None of those... Maybe Conor Harrington because he can actually draw properly not just tag in pretty colours. Then you're in Retna/Parla/Futura territory and very sorry, I don't totally dislike Dolk but for me he is nowhere near in the category of any of the artists i've mentioned.
To price your works at primary to reflect a secondary market anomaly is just ridiculous and maybe HMP should have a word with the likes of Nick Walker re how good an idea it is to go Billy Big Bucks...
I'm not dissing the regular editions either, if they float your boat then fine. But considering it's probably a ยฃ300 framing job then your looking at ยฃ1,200 for a hand finished edition which 44 other people will have, and there is sooo much better original art you could spend that sort of money on.
Sorry for a negative post, but rant over now!
Personally I'm not complaining about the prices as I don't want to buy one. I just think it's incredible that Dolk can command ยฃ900 for an edition of 45 hand finished prints from source.
Ok they're large, but what other artist in this scene, Banksy aside, could do the same? D*Face? Dran? Faile? Bast? None of those... Maybe Conor Harrington because he can actually draw properly not just tag in pretty colours. Then you're in Retna/Parla/Futura territory and very sorry, I don't totally dislike Dolk but for me he is nowhere near in the category of any of the artists i've mentioned.
To price your works at primary to reflect a secondary market anomaly is just ridiculous and maybe HMP should have a word with the likes of Nick Walker re how good an idea it is to go Billy Big Bucks...
I'm not dissing the regular editions either, if they float your boat then fine. But considering it's probably a ยฃ300 framing job then your looking at ยฃ1,200 for a hand finished edition which 44 other people will have, and there is sooo much better original art you could spend that sort of money on.
Sorry for a negative post, but rant over now!
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by twist65 on May 23, 2013 13:30:24 GMT 1, Agree with your sentiments DD, will be a killer show no doubt, looking forward to seeing some pics, and if there's a catalogue could someone post..? And don't do yourself down, your easily the best troll on here X
Agree with your sentiments DD, will be a killer show no doubt, looking forward to seeing some pics, and if there's a catalogue could someone post..? And don't do yourself down, your easily the best troll on here X
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DOLK 'EVOLUTION' & 'CROWN' PRINTS @ HMP NEXT WEEK, by twist65 on May 22, 2013 22:34:32 GMT 1, so there's 45... coloured in a bit... ยฃ900... Nine. Hundred. Pounds... Forty five of them... By Dolk... The world has gone insane...
so there's 45... coloured in a bit... ยฃ900... Nine. Hundred. Pounds... Forty five of them... By Dolk... The world has gone insane...
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Maya Hayuk ๐บ๐ธ Street Art โข New Release โข Art For Sale , by twist65 on May 22, 2013 16:10:17 GMT 1, yeah both available now - I like em but not buying one, but nice to know I'm a fan of psychadelic native american rave art =]
yeah both available now - I like em but not buying one, but nice to know I'm a fan of psychadelic native american rave art =]
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Faile New Print - Les Ballets De Faile, by twist65 on May 21, 2013 13:01:10 GMT 1, fair play ebtroll would love a mooch round their studio.. did they say where the new small puzzle boxes would be released? the couple on that Game On website looked great
fair play ebtroll would love a mooch round their studio.. did they say where the new small puzzle boxes would be released? the couple on that Game On website looked great
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Faile New Print - Les Ballets De Faile, by twist65 on May 21, 2013 12:57:07 GMT 1, Congrats all who got one. I missed out again, but despite being unsuccessful on this and the last lottery I think its a much better way of doing things than the bot-friendly, site-crashing fastest-fingers-first system. Also gives you time to consider your potential purchase properly without just getting caught up in the bunfight frenzy... Not sure its the best system for low edition releases though.
Congrats all who got one. I missed out again, but despite being unsuccessful on this and the last lottery I think its a much better way of doing things than the bot-friendly, site-crashing fastest-fingers-first system. Also gives you time to consider your potential purchase properly without just getting caught up in the bunfight frenzy... Not sure its the best system for low edition releases though.
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Bambi ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale, by twist65 on May 21, 2013 12:31:24 GMT 1, Are you thinking perspex box, or glass dome? i was thinking just the photo, your right though woul d be better as a sculpture, glass dome maybe seriously, my mate does "glit shits" - dog poo rolled in glitter and presented in a fancy dome! Great birthday present for friends and family alike.. He did leave them on the street until kids started poking them etc...
Are you thinking perspex box, or glass dome? i was thinking just the photo, your right though woul d be better as a sculpture, glass dome maybe seriously, my mate does "glit shits" - dog poo rolled in glitter and presented in a fancy dome! Great birthday present for friends and family alike.. He did leave them on the street until kids started poking them etc...
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Framing for eternal reflection, by twist65 on May 20, 2013 17:21:28 GMT 1, don't use non-reflective glass or you won't see the eternal reflection...
don't use non-reflective glass or you won't see the eternal reflection...
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Countryside Street Art and Graffiti - why not? , by twist65 on May 20, 2013 16:39:32 GMT 1,
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With ยฃ500 I'd spend it on..., by twist65 on May 20, 2013 11:47:10 GMT 1, Yup I'm pretty similar to you happyshopper. Hoping for some new releases some time soon from Bast but if I had to spend ยฃ500 right now it would be on this:
www.maxwellcolette.com/artist/bast/50266/untitled_collage_2008/
Or if I had the wall-space that would cover the new Faile print plus framing, or maybe an Eine Adventure.
Yup I'm pretty similar to you happyshopper. Hoping for some new releases some time soon from Bast but if I had to spend ยฃ500 right now it would be on this: www.maxwellcolette.com/artist/bast/50266/untitled_collage_2008/Or if I had the wall-space that would cover the new Faile print plus framing, or maybe an Eine Adventure.
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With ยฃ500 I'd spend it on..., by twist65 on May 20, 2013 10:00:21 GMT 1, This thread actually says quite a lot about where things are at! ยฃ500 to spend here and now, most people wish for a time machine to get something from the good old days.. ..and 2 people are looking to offload some of their prints! RIP street art!
This thread actually says quite a lot about where things are at! ยฃ500 to spend here and now, most people wish for a time machine to get something from the good old days.. ..and 2 people are looking to offload some of their prints! RIP street art!
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Collecting Pottery & Ceramics, by twist65 on May 18, 2013 0:19:51 GMT 1, those 2 new skulls look awesome =]
those 2 new skulls look awesome =]
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Obey Star by Shepard Fairey, by twist65 on May 17, 2013 16:52:59 GMT 1, Yup they're normally in the 15 minutes it takes me to close down my work computer, drive home and fire up the laptop to a "not available" screen! Approx half 6... 'Tis a nice one this...
Yup they're normally in the 15 minutes it takes me to close down my work computer, drive home and fire up the laptop to a "not available" screen! Approx half 6... 'Tis a nice one this...
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