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Price check: signed love rat, by mouser on Oct 26, 2011 20:45:53 GMT 1, ยฃ5K+ bought one 2 years ago at 5K, after several months of looking about, not an easy one to find, another wall friendly classic Banksy.
ยฃ5K+ bought one 2 years ago at 5K, after several months of looking about, not an easy one to find, another wall friendly classic Banksy.
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Micallef Original, by mouser on Oct 24, 2011 21:11:13 GMT 1, What size is it? Is it on paper?
What size is it? Is it on paper?
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CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON 'WHITE' VERSION!, by mouser on Oct 24, 2011 3:32:55 GMT 1, We / they need the VIP's to feed the interest and the hype Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints.
A1 brother. Was 100% supportive of POW back in the day, the money arrived and the rules changed. I wonder if the "black list" still exists?
We / they need the VIP's to feed the interest and the hype Don't get what you mean - how does doing VIP specials generate interest/hype? Does Banksy even need to? Banksy doing VIP specials is a joke - the guy claims to be a street artist so why pander to the rich? Banksy/POW have really lost their way over the last few years imo. Used to be fun collecting Banksy's but now if you're not a VIP, you have to sleep on piss ridden streets in the freezing cold to even get a chance to buy his lordships prints. A1 brother. Was 100% supportive of POW back in the day, the money arrived and the rules changed. I wonder if the "black list" still exists?
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WCP The West Country Prince, by mouser on Oct 18, 2011 17:03:35 GMT 1, ok.. that is just very bad printing. The black didnt take well to being painted over the background and looks grey. The dark black is where the ink went strait onto the paper Thanks for the reply. The WCP said the original was the same. But i dont know. Anyone else have an original or reproduction to check theirs? Just checked a real one and its a solid black, with no crap 2 tone nonsense, but then again the WCP oneis a ยฃ50 copy rather than the real deal.
ok.. that is just very bad printing. The black didnt take well to being painted over the background and looks grey. The dark black is where the ink went strait onto the paper Thanks for the reply. The WCP said the original was the same. But i dont know. Anyone else have an original or reproduction to check theirs? Just checked a real one and its a solid black, with no crap 2 tone nonsense, but then again the WCP oneis a ยฃ50 copy rather than the real deal.
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Ebay listing tips, by mouser on Oct 18, 2011 15:03:32 GMT 1, Take dated pics of the condition of the piece before sending ( before and after packing), to provide additional back up if the item is damaged in transit, it'll help with your case against the post office / courier. Insured / tracked signed for shipping provides peace of mind for both seller and buyer. You cannot wrap / protect it too well. Limit bidders to those with 99% or 100% feedback and reserve the right to cancel bids.
Take dated pics of the condition of the piece before sending ( before and after packing), to provide additional back up if the item is damaged in transit, it'll help with your case against the post office / courier. Insured / tracked signed for shipping provides peace of mind for both seller and buyer. You cannot wrap / protect it too well. Limit bidders to those with 99% or 100% feedback and reserve the right to cancel bids.
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SIGNED BANKSY'S LTT, by mouser on Oct 14, 2011 18:17:37 GMT 1, What other signed are you looking for for your get out rat?
What other signed are you looking for for your get out rat?
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What to buy for 25K sterling, by mouser on Oct 6, 2011 16:08:46 GMT 1, Eyestorm had some very nice warhol's available a few months back, before the new management took over, not sure now....
For that type of money a couple of the larger Hirst spot might be an idea, the tryptic of the circular spot pieces would cost close to that. Saw a set of them framed up once and still sticks with me as one of the nicest set of framed prints I've set eyes on?
Not sure if any fall into the price category, but a nice micallef original?
Eyestorm had some very nice warhol's available a few months back, before the new management took over, not sure now....
For that type of money a couple of the larger Hirst spot might be an idea, the tryptic of the circular spot pieces would cost close to that. Saw a set of them framed up once and still sticks with me as one of the nicest set of framed prints I've set eyes on?
Not sure if any fall into the price category, but a nice micallef original?
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DFace โข Death and Glory Show Poster Print, by mouser on Oct 4, 2011 16:01:51 GMT 1, Is this a poster, a print ?? This is a print NOT a poster !!!!! This is a copy of the offering from 2007 - I think the original price was 350 pounds. Title : Death and Glory Description : Signed edition of 50 Medium : Etching and aquatint with hand coloring Plate size 48cm x 46cm Sheet size 58cm x 56cm Date: March 2007 Black Rat Press
That is the info for the print of the flag raiser type print with the pile of skulls, this print ( with the same name confusingly) was either green from the show ( sold out on the night, or maroon, sold out from POW. October 2006 release 50/70cm screen print. both signed editions of 50. ยฃ150 from either source from memory.
Is this a poster, a print ?? This is a print NOT a poster !!!!! This is a copy of the offering from 2007 - I think the original price was 350 pounds. Title : Death and Glory Description : Signed edition of 50 Medium : Etching and aquatint with hand coloring Plate size 48cm x 46cm Sheet size 58cm x 56cm Date: March 2007 Black Rat Press That is the info for the print of the flag raiser type print with the pile of skulls, this print ( with the same name confusingly) was either green from the show ( sold out on the night, or maroon, sold out from POW. October 2006 release 50/70cm screen print. both signed editions of 50. ยฃ150 from either source from memory.
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New Faile Tomorrow, New Show November, by mouser on Oct 4, 2011 13:11:36 GMT 1, Not been a fan of the recent output, but thats got enough old pieces in there to make me smile, almost like a retrospective print.
Not been a fan of the recent output, but thats got enough old pieces in there to make me smile, almost like a retrospective print.
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Pricing Help Please !!!!!, by mouser on Oct 3, 2011 19:13:04 GMT 1, The Dface Death and Glory vary wildly, but ยฃ300-500 seems to be the bracket for both green and maroon ones. I regret selling my maroon a few years ago.
The Dface Death and Glory vary wildly, but ยฃ300-500 seems to be the bracket for both green and maroon ones. I regret selling my maroon a few years ago.
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Can anyone recommend a good digital camera??????, by mouser on Sept 27, 2011 19:02:55 GMT 1, I've also been looking for a while, the canon EOS 550D or the 600D have both been highly recomended by folk who know their stuff ( keen amatures and semi-pro's) as a great entry level DSLR. Just need to bite the bullet now and get it done.
I've also been looking for a while, the canon EOS 550D or the 600D have both been highly recomended by folk who know their stuff ( keen amatures and semi-pro's) as a great entry level DSLR. Just need to bite the bullet now and get it done.
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by mouser on Sept 27, 2011 4:12:54 GMT 1, Indeed, an absolute beaut.
Indeed, an absolute beaut.
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Banksy's sculptures at Sotheby's, oct 14, by mouser on Sept 26, 2011 23:20:50 GMT 1, I like the way that even Sotheby's can't make up their mind how old Banksy is!
I noticed that with the bonhams listings too, he was born in 1974 for a long time, now some say 1975.... if you got to be a certain age forever, dont know if I'd want to be 36..... 22 sounds like alot more fun
I like the way that even Sotheby's can't make up their mind how old Banksy is! I noticed that with the bonhams listings too, he was born in 1974 for a long time, now some say 1975.... if you got to be a certain age forever, dont know if I'd want to be 36..... 22 sounds like alot more fun
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buying art as a limited comapny, by mouser on Sept 26, 2011 22:54:35 GMT 1, Yes mouser. If you want less profit on you art assets when you sell then buy through a company. If you want to buy art that loses you money then I guess the company would be better for that too.
Not so much want to buy art that loses but we all know its a very fickle business and very much doubt anyone here has not bought a couple of pieces that are worth less now than when they bought them, its not intentional, but very common. As you said each case is different, dependant on both the circumstances and art, some want to buy a stable recognised artists that will ( probably) retain its value, whilst others will be trying to "invest in the next big thing". Your write up of the limited company set-up was bang on though, one of the best descriptions of how it works.
Yes mouser. If you want less profit on you art assets when you sell then buy through a company. If you want to buy art that loses you money then I guess the company would be better for that too. Not so much want to buy art that loses but we all know its a very fickle business and very much doubt anyone here has not bought a couple of pieces that are worth less now than when they bought them, its not intentional, but very common. As you said each case is different, dependant on both the circumstances and art, some want to buy a stable recognised artists that will ( probably) retain its value, whilst others will be trying to "invest in the next big thing". Your write up of the limited company set-up was bang on though, one of the best descriptions of how it works.
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buying art as a limited comapny, by mouser on Sept 26, 2011 20:41:54 GMT 1, So, all in the answer to the original question asked is, yes its Ok to buy art through a limited company if done right and you are willing to accept less hypothetical profit than buying it personally and accepting the current taxations etc vs biting the bullet later.
(what happens if your piece looses value and you have to sell for a loss? you'd still be liable for the higher tax rate as youd taken it out as personal cash, but limited damage if done through company ?)
So, all in the answer to the original question asked is, yes its Ok to buy art through a limited company if done right and you are willing to accept less hypothetical profit than buying it personally and accepting the current taxations etc vs biting the bullet later.
(what happens if your piece looses value and you have to sell for a loss? you'd still be liable for the higher tax rate as youd taken it out as personal cash, but limited damage if done through company ?)
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buying art as a limited comapny, by mouser on Sept 25, 2011 19:26:23 GMT 1, As your name would be on all 3 receipts manty, it sounds like the type of thing that'd get you into very deep bother if mr taxman decided to have a look.
As your name would be on all 3 receipts manty, it sounds like the type of thing that'd get you into very deep bother if mr taxman decided to have a look.
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buying art as a limited comapny, by mouser on Sept 24, 2011 23:11:32 GMT 1, Just be carefull to leave enough in your accounts for your year end reconcilliations, its very easy to get carried away with looking at a business account and getting frisky until the cheecky tax bill comes in mid december..... I got caught out first year and only made it by the skin of my teeth.
Just be carefull to leave enough in your accounts for your year end reconcilliations, its very easy to get carried away with looking at a business account and getting frisky until the cheecky tax bill comes in mid december..... I got caught out first year and only made it by the skin of my teeth.
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buying art as a limited comapny, by mouser on Sept 24, 2011 22:59:18 GMT 1, chrisby, you have mail.
chrisby, you have mail.
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buying art as a limited comapny, by mouser on Sept 24, 2011 22:42:31 GMT 1, Also, unless your business is art related you would need to ensure that you have premises at which you can at least claim to be hanging the art. If you work from home, for example, you're on dodgy ground. Hope this helps.
Not true, the art can be bought as an asset for the company, no different than investing company profits. As long as the work is insured, you are fine. I run a limited company and have done alot of work on this, the company is registered at my address and the "company" art is also kept there with no complications whatsoever.
The art is bought with company profits, with receipts / invoices lodged with accountant verifying purchase of company assets, any sale of these pieces is company profit and liable for tax.
Also, unless your business is art related you would need to ensure that you have premises at which you can at least claim to be hanging the art. If you work from home, for example, you're on dodgy ground. Hope this helps. Not true, the art can be bought as an asset for the company, no different than investing company profits. As long as the work is insured, you are fine. I run a limited company and have done alot of work on this, the company is registered at my address and the "company" art is also kept there with no complications whatsoever. The art is bought with company profits, with receipts / invoices lodged with accountant verifying purchase of company assets, any sale of these pieces is company profit and liable for tax.
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Anyone know where Banksy gets his cardboard from?, by mouser on Sept 22, 2011 22:48:30 GMT 1, Staples to sheets up to A0, heavy card.
Staples to sheets up to A0, heavy card.
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Banksy Paris Hilton CD, by mouser on Sept 22, 2011 5:01:34 GMT 1, Alot poped up on ebay after the stunt, most of which were fakes. They sold for varying ammounts but were quite comon for a couple of years ( similar to the glut of di faced tenners that seem to be available now). The only way to confirm authenticity is the serial number on the CD itself, forward that to Laz or pest control and they should be able to help prove its authenticity and make it more profitable for your friends sale.
Alot poped up on ebay after the stunt, most of which were fakes. They sold for varying ammounts but were quite comon for a couple of years ( similar to the glut of di faced tenners that seem to be available now). The only way to confirm authenticity is the serial number on the CD itself, forward that to Laz or pest control and they should be able to help prove its authenticity and make it more profitable for your friends sale.
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Banksy Get Out While You Can Print, by mouser on Sept 15, 2011 2:50:39 GMT 1, As the title says, looking for a signed "get out while you can" plackard rat print. Other banksy prints with COAs or just plain old cash waiting. PM me if you are able to help.
As the title says, looking for a signed "get out while you can" plackard rat print. Other banksy prints with COAs or just plain old cash waiting. PM me if you are able to help.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by mouser on Sept 13, 2011 1:06:29 GMT 1, I think like isoaflip says, there is no difference other than no sig no stamp no number & no coa.
but how does a buyer know they are buying a genuine backdoor print rather than a recently created copy? Catch 22, if you are able to compare them to a genuine print then you probably wouldnt be buying one in the first place. The recent coppies claim to be printed on very similar stock to the originals etc
Genuine backdoor prints probably will carry a certain price as isoaflip says, but actually identifying a genuine one will be the tricky bit.
I think like isoaflip says, there is no difference other than no sig no stamp no number & no coa. but how does a buyer know they are buying a genuine backdoor print rather than a recently created copy? Catch 22, if you are able to compare them to a genuine print then you probably wouldnt be buying one in the first place. The recent coppies claim to be printed on very similar stock to the originals etc Genuine backdoor prints probably will carry a certain price as isoaflip says, but actually identifying a genuine one will be the tricky bit.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by mouser on Sept 12, 2011 23:36:11 GMT 1, A genuine back-door print has been printed using the same screens used to create the official editions. They are usually no different other than the addition of a pencil signature/number, but test prints (different colours/papers/sizes) do exist. Whether you like it or not, they are and will be far from worthless.
Any hints, tips or advice on how to identify a geuine BDP isoaflip? (bearing in mind, if someone had an original Banksy print to compare it to, they probably wouldnt be buying a BDP in the first place)
A genuine back-door print has been printed using the same screens used to create the official editions. They are usually no different other than the addition of a pencil signature/number, but test prints (different colours/papers/sizes) do exist. Whether you like it or not, they are and will be far from worthless. Any hints, tips or advice on how to identify a geuine BDP isoaflip? (bearing in mind, if someone had an original Banksy print to compare it to, they probably wouldnt be buying a BDP in the first place)
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by mouser on Sept 9, 2011 23:12:11 GMT 1, I still think the girl in NOLA looks like Bruce Dickinson from iron maiden.
backdoor prints were originally prints removed and sold from the Birmingham printers who printed the early banksy prints, they made a few extra and sold em out the "back door". POW also provided some for publicity to shops, bars etc.... generally prints that were printed at the same time as the recognised run but were surplus and never ment to be sold on. Some of the backdoors such as the stretch pulp fictions, green westons and gold LITTa etc were also released as A/Ps through Laz. The backdoor prints were never ment to be sold on so have no provenance or authentication other than word of mouth.
Times and demand changed, some folk placed a certain "value" on backdoor prints, but without any means of authentication they could just as easily have been printed by West country prints last week as in 2003.... no way to know or tell.
I still think the girl in NOLA looks like Bruce Dickinson from iron maiden.
backdoor prints were originally prints removed and sold from the Birmingham printers who printed the early banksy prints, they made a few extra and sold em out the "back door". POW also provided some for publicity to shops, bars etc.... generally prints that were printed at the same time as the recognised run but were surplus and never ment to be sold on. Some of the backdoors such as the stretch pulp fictions, green westons and gold LITTa etc were also released as A/Ps through Laz. The backdoor prints were never ment to be sold on so have no provenance or authentication other than word of mouth.
Times and demand changed, some folk placed a certain "value" on backdoor prints, but without any means of authentication they could just as easily have been printed by West country prints last week as in 2003.... no way to know or tell.
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Eine โข Circus Print, by mouser on Sept 6, 2011 20:23:35 GMT 1, I've had a normal one sat in a folder, never did get round to framing it... the daughter will have left home before i get round to it.
I've had a normal one sat in a folder, never did get round to framing it... the daughter will have left home before i get round to it.
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Faile Mermaid, by mouser on Sept 2, 2011 8:34:24 GMT 1, As Xmyart says, its a Faile Piece not Banksy, but a very nice Faile. The Writing matches other older faile and is 100% their style / work with no banksy connection whatsoever. POW sold the print of this, sold out a few years back. Enjoy it for what it is.
As Xmyart says, its a Faile Piece not Banksy, but a very nice Faile. The Writing matches other older faile and is 100% their style / work with no banksy connection whatsoever. POW sold the print of this, sold out a few years back. Enjoy it for what it is.
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Banksy Get Out While You Can Print, by mouser on Sept 1, 2011 9:56:29 GMT 1, I've been looking for one for a while, a tricky one to pick up for some reason, the other signed rats were a lot easier. Good luck with your hunt.
I've been looking for one for a while, a tricky one to pick up for some reason, the other signed rats were a lot easier. Good luck with your hunt.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by mouser on Aug 30, 2011 20:00:09 GMT 1, I'd be very doubtful about these "backdoor" prints as both were printed in-house at POW rather than the older birmingham prints. The older ones were at least plausible in the possibility of coming from the brume source, but the DFT sheets were carefully handled due to the nature of being altered photocopied banknotes. The Nola release is much newer and the whole "backdoor issue" was already a massive pain in the bum for POW, seems strange that " a very desirable green Nola" should appear as a backdoor rather than an A/P, again I'd suspect that they'd be very carefully handled due to the placement of the pieces and the way the coloured Nola's were sold / distributed. High prices asked for something with all the provenance of the recent copy prints from west country prints, but backed with contradictory info regarding the brume connection. Wouldn't touch them to begin with, only made more dodgy with the attempt to marry older backdoor info to newer prints.
I'd be very doubtful about these "backdoor" prints as both were printed in-house at POW rather than the older birmingham prints. The older ones were at least plausible in the possibility of coming from the brume source, but the DFT sheets were carefully handled due to the nature of being altered photocopied banknotes. The Nola release is much newer and the whole "backdoor issue" was already a massive pain in the bum for POW, seems strange that " a very desirable green Nola" should appear as a backdoor rather than an A/P, again I'd suspect that they'd be very carefully handled due to the placement of the pieces and the way the coloured Nola's were sold / distributed. High prices asked for something with all the provenance of the recent copy prints from west country prints, but backed with contradictory info regarding the brume connection. Wouldn't touch them to begin with, only made more dodgy with the attempt to marry older backdoor info to newer prints.
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Signed 2D and Signed Noodle-Gob, by mouser on Aug 17, 2011 1:08:22 GMT 1, jamie hewlett - gorillaz prints, from POW
jamie hewlett - gorillaz prints, from POW
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