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New POSE HPM from LSC, by Howard Johnson on Jun 2, 2015 2:39:28 GMT 1, This is admittedly cool tee, but I feel like licensing his stuff to such a mainstream retailer with such a horrible track record for sweatshop abuses is a bit of a sell out move. Gotta make a living I guess. Dude, you're such a buzz kill. So, Mr. lawyer-boy would you wear one or not? If not, does this mean you'll sell your 'Burn' print in protest?
Jesus dude, calm down. Forgive me for hoping that the artists I support would exercise some political awareness when aligning themselves with a company. All that aside, gap is about as corporate, white boy, cookie cutter as you can get. Might as well have licensed his work to old navy or wall mart.
This is admittedly cool tee, but I feel like licensing his stuff to such a mainstream retailer with such a horrible track record for sweatshop abuses is a bit of a sell out move. Gotta make a living I guess. Dude, you're such a buzz kill. So, Mr. lawyer-boy would you wear one or not? If not, does this mean you'll sell your 'Burn' print in protest? Jesus dude, calm down. Forgive me for hoping that the artists I support would exercise some political awareness when aligning themselves with a company. All that aside, gap is about as corporate, white boy, cookie cutter as you can get. Might as well have licensed his work to old navy or wall mart.
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New POSE HPM from LSC, by Howard Johnson on Jun 2, 2015 0:57:45 GMT 1, This is admittedly cool tee, but I feel like licensing his stuff to such a mainstream retailer with such a horrible track record for sweatshop abuses is a bit of a sell out move. Gotta make a living I guess.
This is admittedly cool tee, but I feel like licensing his stuff to such a mainstream retailer with such a horrible track record for sweatshop abuses is a bit of a sell out move. Gotta make a living I guess.
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D*FACE Artwork, VALUATION, by Howard Johnson on Jun 1, 2015 0:08:26 GMT 1, Haha that will be the day. I used to have the Shepard fairey homage and I kinda regret selling it now. Personally, I think pop tart is the best of the three. The shep one is a spot on homage in the sense that he expands on warhols repetition tactic in new and interesting ways, but it's one ugly mother to have on your wall lol. The banksy is great as well, but the image isn't good enough to justify the price in my opinion. It's funny how the Marilyn homages are the "holy grails" of these three artists, really speaks to the lasting impact of warhol on art in general.
Haha that will be the day. I used to have the Shepard fairey homage and I kinda regret selling it now. Personally, I think pop tart is the best of the three. The shep one is a spot on homage in the sense that he expands on warhols repetition tactic in new and interesting ways, but it's one ugly mother to have on your wall lol. The banksy is great as well, but the image isn't good enough to justify the price in my opinion. It's funny how the Marilyn homages are the "holy grails" of these three artists, really speaks to the lasting impact of warhol on art in general.
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D*FACE Artwork, VALUATION, by Howard Johnson on May 31, 2015 21:55:39 GMT 1, Thanks very much. Funnily enough that's exactly the price I've been offered one at. Think I'll go for it. To me it's the stand out Dface and a bit of a classic. Agreed. I'm not sure how the D*face market will be in the future, but this one is an absolute must have for any D*face fan in my opinion. I actually just picked up one of the first run black stamp warhol marilyns to frame side by side with it. Good luck on your transaction!
Thanks very much. Funnily enough that's exactly the price I've been offered one at. Think I'll go for it. To me it's the stand out Dface and a bit of a classic. Agreed. I'm not sure how the D*face market will be in the future, but this one is an absolute must have for any D*face fan in my opinion. I actually just picked up one of the first run black stamp warhol marilyns to frame side by side with it. Good luck on your transaction!
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D*FACE Artwork, VALUATION, by Howard Johnson on May 30, 2015 22:03:26 GMT 1, Any idea on the fair price for a yellow Pop Tart? Prices seem up and down at the moment. Cheers
Expect to spend 1,300 GBP (2k USD) for one in mint condition. I started pursuing this one about a year ago and missed out on two at this price, and finally bought the third one I found. All were priced at or slightly above 1,300 GBP + shipping.
Any idea on the fair price for a yellow Pop Tart? Prices seem up and down at the moment. Cheers Expect to spend 1,300 GBP (2k USD) for one in mint condition. I started pursuing this one about a year ago and missed out on two at this price, and finally bought the third one I found. All were priced at or slightly above 1,300 GBP + shipping.
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D*FACE Artwork, VALUATION, by Howard Johnson on May 24, 2015 20:38:26 GMT 1, Anyone know the current price of a green-eared DSTQ print? DSTQ seem to be going between $1500 - $2000 depending on the color. If my memory serves, green is one of the less desirable colors so I would estimate on the lower end of that scale.
Anyone know the current price of a green-eared DSTQ print? DSTQ seem to be going between $1500 - $2000 depending on the color. If my memory serves, green is one of the less desirable colors so I would estimate on the lower end of that scale.
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smeared signature, by Howard Johnson on May 11, 2015 17:14:28 GMT 1, If you purchased the print from a gallery and assuming you paid the normal gallery markup I'd consider asking for a discount if it was not disclosed. Paying a premium from a gallery carries the assurance of a pristine piece, and you should hold them to such expectations if it was listed as "mint". That being said, if they cut you a nice deal I wouldn't mention it as it won't likely hurt the future value if its a popular artist.
If you purchased the print from a gallery and assuming you paid the normal gallery markup I'd consider asking for a discount if it was not disclosed. Paying a premium from a gallery carries the assurance of a pristine piece, and you should hold them to such expectations if it was listed as "mint". That being said, if they cut you a nice deal I wouldn't mention it as it won't likely hurt the future value if its a popular artist.
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Banksy "Happy Choppers", by Howard Johnson on May 11, 2015 17:09:54 GMT 1, HK Photography has an AP available. Price is a bit high though.
HK Photography has an AP available. Price is a bit high though.
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DOLK Prints, Sleepwalker & Chief at HMP, by Howard Johnson on May 10, 2015 21:12:55 GMT 1, Don't really understand that sleepwalker one, but I think cheif is at the very least a cool image. Kinda reminds me of the Dot Dot Dot "Handgun" in terms of quality, obviously not great or important art by any stretch of the imagination, but would still look awesome as wall decoration. Really wish he would have gone with a different background color though, the red on the canvas one is far superior in my opinion.
By the way, it kinda sucks that three of the best print releases of the year all had to take place within a few weeks of each-other. Would definatly be going for the Chief if I hadn't blown my budget on the POSE a few days ago.
Don't really understand that sleepwalker one, but I think cheif is at the very least a cool image. Kinda reminds me of the Dot Dot Dot "Handgun" in terms of quality, obviously not great or important art by any stretch of the imagination, but would still look awesome as wall decoration. Really wish he would have gone with a different background color though, the red on the canvas one is far superior in my opinion.
By the way, it kinda sucks that three of the best print releases of the year all had to take place within a few weeks of each-other. Would definatly be going for the Chief if I hadn't blown my budget on the POSE a few days ago.
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Banksy's Album Art, by Howard Johnson on May 8, 2015 1:00:17 GMT 1, I'm honestly surprised more musicians don't follow Dirty Funker's lead and use Banksy artwork on their albums. Seems like an easy way to get people to shell out cash for something they normally wouldn't listen to, and its not like Banksy is gonna sue for copyright infringement.
I'm honestly surprised more musicians don't follow Dirty Funker's lead and use Banksy artwork on their albums. Seems like an easy way to get people to shell out cash for something they normally wouldn't listen to, and its not like Banksy is gonna sue for copyright infringement.
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New POSE HPM from LSC, by Howard Johnson on May 7, 2015 23:23:26 GMT 1, Based on "blot" I'm willing to bet these prints look 100x better in person. The print house in charge of these editions should really be commended, the color schemes and textures they create are far above anything I've ever seen.
Based on "blot" I'm willing to bet these prints look 100x better in person. The print house in charge of these editions should really be commended, the color schemes and textures they create are far above anything I've ever seen.
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New POSE HPM from LSC, by Howard Johnson on May 7, 2015 2:30:09 GMT 1, I agree. It seems like hes had quite a few releases lately, but I'm glad hes keeping the editions low and prices somewhat steady. I do feel a bit bad for those who bought the clayboard edition though, as the HPM is a suitable alternative at a fraction of the cost. Maybe, like fairey does with his wood/metal prints, he'll do these three editions for each multiple release here on out. I too purchased a hpm on clay board and am anticipating it to have much more hand finishing embellishments and really being something special, it better be for $2000. If it's not, it will only tarnish his reputation for further hpm clay board releases. Usually, his hand finishing on his prints is very minimal, like a line of spray acrylic here or a dot there, not much at all in addition to the regular print. I guess I'll have to wait and see. I am sure the print will sell out quickly as it looks to be the best release so far this year, imo. Good luck to anybody going for it on Monday. I think the clayboard release is more akin to an "original" then his normal HPM releases. It looks amazing, and is probably gonna be leaps and bounds above the screen print. I'm just the type that gets a bit chuffed when an edition isn't fully disclosed. When I was considering the clayboard I assumed it would be the only multiple of the image, and I would have felt a bit duped when POSE released two other editions only a week later. At this point, we all kinda assume that he will release an HPM edition along with his prints, and now maybe we can expect some releases to have a small mixed media edition as well. Obvioulsy this sort of thing is up to an artist's discretion, and I'm personally ecstatic that I can get an HPM up on my wall for 550.
I agree. It seems like hes had quite a few releases lately, but I'm glad hes keeping the editions low and prices somewhat steady. I do feel a bit bad for those who bought the clayboard edition though, as the HPM is a suitable alternative at a fraction of the cost. Maybe, like fairey does with his wood/metal prints, he'll do these three editions for each multiple release here on out. I too purchased a hpm on clay board and am anticipating it to have much more hand finishing embellishments and really being something special, it better be for $2000. If it's not, it will only tarnish his reputation for further hpm clay board releases. Usually, his hand finishing on his prints is very minimal, like a line of spray acrylic here or a dot there, not much at all in addition to the regular print. I guess I'll have to wait and see. I am sure the print will sell out quickly as it looks to be the best release so far this year, imo. Good luck to anybody going for it on Monday. I think the clayboard release is more akin to an "original" then his normal HPM releases. It looks amazing, and is probably gonna be leaps and bounds above the screen print. I'm just the type that gets a bit chuffed when an edition isn't fully disclosed. When I was considering the clayboard I assumed it would be the only multiple of the image, and I would have felt a bit duped when POSE released two other editions only a week later. At this point, we all kinda assume that he will release an HPM edition along with his prints, and now maybe we can expect some releases to have a small mixed media edition as well. Obvioulsy this sort of thing is up to an artist's discretion, and I'm personally ecstatic that I can get an HPM up on my wall for 550.
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New POSE HPM from LSC, by Howard Johnson on May 7, 2015 1:10:58 GMT 1, I think that handfinished for 550 is the deal considering I just paid two grand for a handfinished multiple in a run of nine on clay board or whatever. I literally cannot resist a POSE release. I agree. It seems like hes had quite a few releases lately, but I'm glad hes keeping the editions low and prices somewhat steady. I do feel a bit bad for those who bought the clayboard edition though, as the HPM is a suitable alternative at a fraction of the cost. Maybe, like fairey does with his wood/metal prints, he'll do these three editions for each multiple release here on out.
I think that handfinished for 550 is the deal considering I just paid two grand for a handfinished multiple in a run of nine on clay board or whatever. I literally cannot resist a POSE release. I agree. It seems like hes had quite a few releases lately, but I'm glad hes keeping the editions low and prices somewhat steady. I do feel a bit bad for those who bought the clayboard edition though, as the HPM is a suitable alternative at a fraction of the cost. Maybe, like fairey does with his wood/metal prints, he'll do these three editions for each multiple release here on out.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by Howard Johnson on May 6, 2015 22:49:11 GMT 1, Thanks for the heads up WCP. This seller is flat out weird to say the least. I sent him a message asking for clarification on the listing and his response was literally, "Stop asking questions and take a risk for once in your life."
Thanks for the heads up WCP. This seller is flat out weird to say the least. I sent him a message asking for clarification on the listing and his response was literally, "Stop asking questions and take a risk for once in your life."
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by Howard Johnson on May 5, 2015 19:06:31 GMT 1, Hit up Wenters, I know he was selling a pink one not to long ago.
Hit up Wenters, I know he was selling a pink one not to long ago.
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POSE prints, by Howard Johnson on May 4, 2015 21:37:59 GMT 1, Hi tup JJ at library street collective, they have some great OGs that are reasonably priced.
Hi tup JJ at library street collective, they have some great OGs that are reasonably priced.
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Art Debate / Dont Believe the Hype, by Howard Johnson on Apr 30, 2015 3:11:03 GMT 1, Good thread 886. I too find that many artists are far to preemptive with their print releases. Even from a financial standpoint, it seems like a smarter move to establish a significant portfolio before releasing a print edition. If you look at POSE, I think he is proof of that. Hes been around for quite some time and has been fairly successful, without releasing any editions. Then, once he did start to release multiples, he could command a much higher price point. I believe KAWS was the same way, even his first editions were priced around 500$. When it comes to derivative art and hype, new collectors are the most vulnerable. for all of us that have been around the block, we can easily spot this kind of stuff and know that there is little to no chance of it ever appreciating in value. New collectors have trouble making these distinctions and I think these hyped print releases really pray on their naivety. Hey Chris I get your drift but let's keep in mind that some of these prints are very inexpensive. For instance both Tabby releases were affordable and relatively small editions. So whether they are purchased by people for pure decorative enjoyment or investment,there really isn't much of a risk. Which is a nice way for beginners to get into not just collecting but just appreciating art even on a basic level. As far as making the distinction between what will and what won't appreciate, need I remind you of the original price of most Banksy prints. Sometimes in this crazy art world I think it's anybody's guess. Look at JJ Adams, crazy man crazy. Jerry I see where you are going, but I would argue that this type of derivative art has literally zero chance of appreciation barring some sort of miraculous development in the artists career. How many times have we seen some cheeky stencil image on a colored background? There seems to be a print release like this every single week. Even arguable the best imitators like Dot Dot Dot are already being forgotten. I really don't mean to trash on this Tabby guy, I'm sure hes a good bloke and puts his heart into the work, but every single release like this just further drives the nail into the street art coffin. I appreciate artists like POSE or Conner Harrington, cause they at least attempt to move the movement forward in interesting ways. Sure there isn't much risk involved in these purchases and I'm all for the free market, but why not push these artists to try something new instead of stick to the same ol tired formula.
Good thread 886. I too find that many artists are far to preemptive with their print releases. Even from a financial standpoint, it seems like a smarter move to establish a significant portfolio before releasing a print edition. If you look at POSE, I think he is proof of that. Hes been around for quite some time and has been fairly successful, without releasing any editions. Then, once he did start to release multiples, he could command a much higher price point. I believe KAWS was the same way, even his first editions were priced around 500$. When it comes to derivative art and hype, new collectors are the most vulnerable. for all of us that have been around the block, we can easily spot this kind of stuff and know that there is little to no chance of it ever appreciating in value. New collectors have trouble making these distinctions and I think these hyped print releases really pray on their naivety. Hey Chris I get your drift but let's keep in mind that some of these prints are very inexpensive. For instance both Tabby releases were affordable and relatively small editions. So whether they are purchased by people for pure decorative enjoyment or investment,there really isn't much of a risk. Which is a nice way for beginners to get into not just collecting but just appreciating art even on a basic level. As far as making the distinction between what will and what won't appreciate, need I remind you of the original price of most Banksy prints. Sometimes in this crazy art world I think it's anybody's guess. Look at JJ Adams, crazy man crazy. Jerry I see where you are going, but I would argue that this type of derivative art has literally zero chance of appreciation barring some sort of miraculous development in the artists career. How many times have we seen some cheeky stencil image on a colored background? There seems to be a print release like this every single week. Even arguable the best imitators like Dot Dot Dot are already being forgotten. I really don't mean to trash on this Tabby guy, I'm sure hes a good bloke and puts his heart into the work, but every single release like this just further drives the nail into the street art coffin. I appreciate artists like POSE or Conner Harrington, cause they at least attempt to move the movement forward in interesting ways. Sure there isn't much risk involved in these purchases and I'm all for the free market, but why not push these artists to try something new instead of stick to the same ol tired formula.
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Art Debate / Dont Believe the Hype, by Howard Johnson on Apr 30, 2015 2:28:37 GMT 1, Good thread 886. I too find that many artists are far to preemptive with their print releases. Even from a financial standpoint, it seems like a smarter move to establish a significant portfolio before releasing a print edition. If you look at POSE, I think he is proof of that. Hes been around for quite some time and has been fairly successful, without releasing any editions. Then, once he did start to release multiples, he could command a much higher price point. I believe KAWS was the same way, even his first editions were priced around 500$.
When it comes to derivative art and hype, new collectors are the most vulnerable. for all of us that have been around the block, we can easily spot this kind of stuff and know that there is little to no chance of it ever appreciating in value. New collectors have trouble making these distinctions and I think these hyped print releases really pray on their naivety.
Good thread 886. I too find that many artists are far to preemptive with their print releases. Even from a financial standpoint, it seems like a smarter move to establish a significant portfolio before releasing a print edition. If you look at POSE, I think he is proof of that. Hes been around for quite some time and has been fairly successful, without releasing any editions. Then, once he did start to release multiples, he could command a much higher price point. I believe KAWS was the same way, even his first editions were priced around 500$.
When it comes to derivative art and hype, new collectors are the most vulnerable. for all of us that have been around the block, we can easily spot this kind of stuff and know that there is little to no chance of it ever appreciating in value. New collectors have trouble making these distinctions and I think these hyped print releases really pray on their naivety.
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Kaws 4ft, by Howard Johnson on Apr 29, 2015 19:06:18 GMT 1, Hit up Reblate, hes after one.
Hit up Reblate, hes after one.
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D*FACE Artwork, VALUATION, by Howard Johnson on Apr 27, 2015 19:02:05 GMT 1, Rebelate, last one sold on here for 2k GBP if I remember correctly. Your better of selling it to me for cost though
Rebelate, last one sold on here for 2k GBP if I remember correctly. Your better of selling it to me for cost though
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JR x Art Spiegelman collab, by Howard Johnson on Apr 27, 2015 18:59:55 GMT 1, Damn, this is a must have for any comic book fans! Thanks for sharing.
Damn, this is a must have for any comic book fans! Thanks for sharing.
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Banksy posters, by Howard Johnson on Apr 26, 2015 21:36:22 GMT 1, I'd recommend "Save or Delete." Its hard to find an original one but its one of Banksy's best images and the text can easily be matted out.
I'd recommend "Save or Delete." Its hard to find an original one but its one of Banksy's best images and the text can easily be matted out.
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Damien Hirst Print Advice Needed , by Howard Johnson on Apr 25, 2015 22:24:51 GMT 1, Thanks Ruggs! That apostles series is sweet as well. I hit up Paul Stolper a few days ago so hopefully I'll be hearing back soon. Have people generally had good experiences buying from them?
Thanks Ruggs! That apostles series is sweet as well. I hit up Paul Stolper a few days ago so hopefully I'll be hearing back soon. Have people generally had good experiences buying from them?
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Damien Hirst Print Advice Needed , by Howard Johnson on Apr 25, 2015 22:06:15 GMT 1, Nordicstar, I agree! I sent an inquiry form to the galley to see if any are available so I have my fingers crossed that I can score one for the original cost.
Nordicstar, I agree! I sent an inquiry form to the galley to see if any are available so I have my fingers crossed that I can score one for the original cost.
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Damien Hirst Print Advice Needed , by Howard Johnson on Apr 25, 2015 21:37:21 GMT 1, So I'm looking to purchase my first Damien Hirst print. My father is a physician so his prints depicting the glorification of pills and the pharmaceutical industry really speak to me. I was wondering if anyone on here can recommend a good one to start with. "Six Pills" seems to be the most affordable option, but the fact that its an inkjet print kind of makes me worry about the quality. Is it worth it to save up for "Utopia," "Pharmaceuticals," or another similar print run? Finally, where would be the best place to look for one of these? Does Other Criteria offer the lowest possible price point? Thanks in advance for your help!
So I'm looking to purchase my first Damien Hirst print. My father is a physician so his prints depicting the glorification of pills and the pharmaceutical industry really speak to me. I was wondering if anyone on here can recommend a good one to start with. "Six Pills" seems to be the most affordable option, but the fact that its an inkjet print kind of makes me worry about the quality. Is it worth it to save up for "Utopia," "Pharmaceuticals," or another similar print run? Finally, where would be the best place to look for one of these? Does Other Criteria offer the lowest possible price point? Thanks in advance for your help!
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FS: D*face Prints and an OG, by Howard Johnson on Apr 25, 2015 20:52:21 GMT 1, Thought I'd try one last time to move a few of my D*face pieces. Most are framed in LA but can be shipped if need be. The prices listed are all below my costs so I can't really go much lower but open to reasonable cash + trade offers (Banksy, D*face, Fairey, Hirst, Faile, ect).
"Zombie Ziggy" - Spray Paint & Acrylic on Aluminum Panel (25 x 32) Edition of 10 - Framed with etched moulding that matched the textures on Bowie's Jacket & Glare Free UV Plexi - $2700
"More Punk Than You Punk" - Orange AP from an edition of 16 - Framed with UV Plexi - 750$
I also have "No More Heroes" (Framed) and "Unamerican Graffiti" (Unframed), as well as a few backdoor Banksys. Open to offers on these as I'm not to sure on the current market rates.
Thought I'd try one last time to move a few of my D*face pieces. Most are framed in LA but can be shipped if need be. The prices listed are all below my costs so I can't really go much lower but open to reasonable cash + trade offers (Banksy, D*face, Fairey, Hirst, Faile, ect). "Zombie Ziggy" - Spray Paint & Acrylic on Aluminum Panel (25 x 32) Edition of 10 - Framed with etched moulding that matched the textures on Bowie's Jacket & Glare Free UV Plexi - $2700 "More Punk Than You Punk" - Orange AP from an edition of 16 - Framed with UV Plexi - 750$ I also have "No More Heroes" (Framed) and "Unamerican Graffiti" (Unframed), as well as a few backdoor Banksys. Open to offers on these as I'm not to sure on the current market rates.
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New POSE HPM from LSC, by Howard Johnson on Apr 24, 2015 2:25:49 GMT 1, These are fantastic and a great price point as well.
These are fantastic and a great price point as well.
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looking to buy JR, by Howard Johnson on Apr 23, 2015 19:36:31 GMT 1, This gallery seems to have a few. Pretty pricey but I have no idea of his market value.
store.perrotin.com/en/16-prints
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D*FACE Artwork, VALUATION, by Howard Johnson on Apr 19, 2015 22:51:32 GMT 1, Looking to sell an extremely rare Kant Complain print on behalf of a friend, no idea of value? Mint condition. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thank you Very rare print, but the D*face secondary market seems to be on a bit of a slide. I'd say around 1k gbp depending on the buyer.
Looking to sell an extremely rare Kant Complain print on behalf of a friend, no idea of value? Mint condition. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thank you Very rare print, but the D*face secondary market seems to be on a bit of a slide. I'd say around 1k gbp depending on the buyer.
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Appropriation battle royale , by Howard Johnson on Apr 17, 2015 21:25:29 GMT 1, Thanks for starting this thread! As a student of intellectual property I think the urban art movement, and the music discussed above, has really blurred the line on what is an acceptable level of appropriation. On one hand copyright is pretty much the only thing protecting artists and allowing them to make a living on from their creations. Thus, statements like "anything in the past is fair game for the future" are detrimental to the ability for all artists or their surviving family members to make a living from their work. Theorists like Locke back up the bedrock of these principles; that people should be rewarded for the fruits of their labor.
That being said, while imperfect, modern copyright law allows for a number of avenues for artists to expand upon artwork of the past. Such rights only exist for 70 years after the death of the artist, allowing future generations to do what they please with the work. Further, the doctrine of fair use allows for artists to use copyrighted material as long as they add their own expression and essentially transform the meaning or context of the work.
Thanks for starting this thread! As a student of intellectual property I think the urban art movement, and the music discussed above, has really blurred the line on what is an acceptable level of appropriation. On one hand copyright is pretty much the only thing protecting artists and allowing them to make a living on from their creations. Thus, statements like "anything in the past is fair game for the future" are detrimental to the ability for all artists or their surviving family members to make a living from their work. Theorists like Locke back up the bedrock of these principles; that people should be rewarded for the fruits of their labor.
That being said, while imperfect, modern copyright law allows for a number of avenues for artists to expand upon artwork of the past. Such rights only exist for 70 years after the death of the artist, allowing future generations to do what they please with the work. Further, the doctrine of fair use allows for artists to use copyrighted material as long as they add their own expression and essentially transform the meaning or context of the work.
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