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Martin Whatson โข Still Life 2 Print, by disappointed on Nov 14, 2016 15:07:07 GMT 1, To say that Eine had had his fifteen minutes of fame misunderstands the fact that he has had sustained global credibility in the scene for more like fifteen years. Try asking your local Graf or urban artist if they've even heard of Whatson. Then try asking the same question if they've heard about the guy that does letters on shutters.Print sales do not and never will define the relevance of an artist and even if Eine had never released anything commercially, he'd have achieved more in just his London walls alone than Whatson. Who incidentally is a throughly nice guy in real life, and his art is fine. It's just not comparable. They well know him as a writer from well before he starting putting letters on shutters.
But history is not all it's cracked up to be. Look at blek - a very long history, pioneering even, and with a couple of classic images under his belt but who has, for far too long, been living off a quote and some appallingly uninspired and insipid art.
Whatson, on the other hand, is simply a waste of paint/ink. It's 'urban' art for the IKEA shopper.
To say that Eine had had his fifteen minutes of fame misunderstands the fact that he has had sustained global credibility in the scene for more like fifteen years. Try asking your local Graf or urban artist if they've even heard of Whatson. Then try asking the same question if they've heard about the guy that does letters on shutters.Print sales do not and never will define the relevance of an artist and even if Eine had never released anything commercially, he'd have achieved more in just his London walls alone than Whatson. Who incidentally is a throughly nice guy in real life, and his art is fine. It's just not comparable. They well know him as a writer from well before he starting putting letters on shutters. But history is not all it's cracked up to be. Look at blek - a very long history, pioneering even, and with a couple of classic images under his belt but who has, for far too long, been living off a quote and some appallingly uninspired and insipid art. Whatson, on the other hand, is simply a waste of paint/ink. It's 'urban' art for the IKEA shopper.
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FS Originals Francis, Kinsey, Proch, Bullough, Kunstrasen, by disappointed on Nov 14, 2016 12:59:57 GMT 1, That's a brilliant Kinsey.
I've a couple of paintings by him from a similar period and they are amongst my favourite works.
That's a brilliant Kinsey.
I've a couple of paintings by him from a similar period and they are amongst my favourite works.
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Books: Invader, Parla, Fairey, Blu, Spank the Monkey, by disappointed on Nov 14, 2016 1:31:15 GMT 1, Ha, just saw that thugs beat me to the ID..
Ha, just saw that thugs beat me to the ID..
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Books: Invader, Parla, Fairey, Blu, Spank the Monkey, by disappointed on Nov 13, 2016 21:24:03 GMT 1, Is that their signature, the one with the "star"? On mine on the red page, I can easily recognise Fairey, Invader, Faile and Miss Van, but I don't know made the small one in the middle or the one with the 2 starts.
I don't really know but the O with a star is a common OsGemeos motif and I can't match the letter forms to any other contributor.
Your unidentified signatures are, I think, Peter Doroshenko (then director of the Baltic) and Dzine...
Is that their signature, the one with the "star"? On mine on the red page, I can easily recognise Fairey, Invader, Faile and Miss Van, but I don't know made the small one in the middle or the one with the 2 starts. I don't really know but the O with a star is a common OsGemeos motif and I can't match the letter forms to any other contributor. Your unidentified signatures are, I think, Peter Doroshenko (then director of the Baltic) and Dzine...
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Books: Invader, Parla, Fairey, Blu, Spank the Monkey, by disappointed on Nov 13, 2016 13:29:58 GMT 1, There are more signatures and scribbles on the book. Do you know if yours signed by Os Gemeos? This is the closest I have to Os Gemeos.
Apologies for derailing your thread...
There are more signatures and scribbles on the book. Do you know if yours signed by Os Gemeos? This is the closest I have to Os Gemeos. Apologies for derailing your thread...
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Books: Invader, Parla, Fairey, Blu, Spank the Monkey, by disappointed on Nov 12, 2016 17:14:38 GMT 1, All fine books. No idea of the value. My spanked monkey is signed on pages throughout the book but I think I prefer them all on the one (or two) pages like this example. What an exhibition that was though, a fantastically curated tour de force of what street art was back then, and promises of the potential it had. The Baltic then had that incredible Barry McGee show a few years later too so it's a bit of a shame that they have never really revisited the scene as they were on a roll for a couple of years.. Would be great to see an anniversary show. There are more signatures and scribbles on the book. Do you know if yours signed by Os Gemeos? I can't remember but doubt it.
I'll dig the book out later and have a look though..
All fine books. No idea of the value. My spanked monkey is signed on pages throughout the book but I think I prefer them all on the one (or two) pages like this example. What an exhibition that was though, a fantastically curated tour de force of what street art was back then, and promises of the potential it had. The Baltic then had that incredible Barry McGee show a few years later too so it's a bit of a shame that they have never really revisited the scene as they were on a roll for a couple of years.. Would be great to see an anniversary show. There are more signatures and scribbles on the book. Do you know if yours signed by Os Gemeos? I can't remember but doubt it. I'll dig the book out later and have a look though..
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Books: Invader, Parla, Fairey, Blu, Spank the Monkey, by disappointed on Nov 12, 2016 16:14:17 GMT 1, All fine books. No idea of the value.
My spanked monkey is signed on pages throughout the book but I think I prefer them all on the one (or two) pages like this example. What an exhibition that was though, a fantastically curated tour de force of what street art was back then, and promises of the potential it had. The Baltic then had that incredible Barry McGee show a few years later too so it's a bit of a shame that they have never really revisited the scene as they were on a roll for a couple of years..
Would be great to see an anniversary show.
All fine books. No idea of the value.
My spanked monkey is signed on pages throughout the book but I think I prefer them all on the one (or two) pages like this example. What an exhibition that was though, a fantastically curated tour de force of what street art was back then, and promises of the potential it had. The Baltic then had that incredible Barry McGee show a few years later too so it's a bit of a shame that they have never really revisited the scene as they were on a roll for a couple of years..
Would be great to see an anniversary show.
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by disappointed on Nov 12, 2016 16:01:58 GMT 1, An angry mouse:
An angry mouse:
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Conor Harrington - Hide and Seek, by disappointed on Nov 11, 2016 17:51:24 GMT 1, Finally arrived today. That's nice framing.
I'm not normally keen on anything other than the cleanest framing, so no coloured spacers or the like let alone some of the total horror shows you see in which the framer has gone to town trying to carry the artwork into the frame, but that looks very good.
Finally arrived today. That's nice framing. I'm not normally keen on anything other than the cleanest framing, so no coloured spacers or the like let alone some of the total horror shows you see in which the framer has gone to town trying to carry the artwork into the frame, but that looks very good.
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Inside Art Collectors Homes, by disappointed on Nov 10, 2016 13:24:59 GMT 1, Looks like there is a Faile Torment on wood over there too! WOW! Cheers Maseo7! Here are some better pictures of it. Classic Faile Great piece.
It's always a nice jolt to see this era of work even though it can be painful to be reminded of just how good they were back in the mid 2000's when compared against their current output which is much more miss than hit. I've always felt that they produced their best imagery as a trio which is odd because I have found pretty much all of Aiko's solo work to be quite terrible. Sums and parts I guess..
Looks like there is a Faile Torment on wood over there too! WOW! Cheers Maseo7! Here are some better pictures of it. Classic Faile Great piece. It's always a nice jolt to see this era of work even though it can be painful to be reminded of just how good they were back in the mid 2000's when compared against their current output which is much more miss than hit. I've always felt that they produced their best imagery as a trio which is odd because I have found pretty much all of Aiko's solo work to be quite terrible. Sums and parts I guess..
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Invader Artwork, VALUATION, by disappointed on Nov 9, 2016 23:17:24 GMT 1, yes they are selling the black and red version of Space Vibe my quest for a black Space File continues.... well, tagliatella galleries new york is listing now a "space file" - black edition for $8500 ! hmm...its invaders largest print, very rare (ed of 30) and old... should be hard to get the pair ! ;-)
That is a ridiculous price for a print although Space File is certainly up there with his very best prints.
I never got round to framing mine as it is pretty big and I just never had the wall space. One day though...
yes they are selling the black and red version of Space Vibe my quest for a black Space File continues.... well, tagliatella galleries new york is listing now a "space file" - black edition for $8500 ! hmm...its invaders largest print, very rare (ed of 30) and old... should be hard to get the pair ! ;-) That is a ridiculous price for a print although Space File is certainly up there with his very best prints. I never got round to framing mine as it is pretty big and I just never had the wall space. One day though...
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Politcal art, by disappointed on Nov 9, 2016 12:41:50 GMT 1, Doesn't get much better than this:
Doesn't get much better than this:
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by disappointed on Nov 8, 2016 15:27:36 GMT 1, I bought myself a small Picasso etching for my birthday. Hand signed / numbered edition of 50. Blows my mind that you can still buy signed Picasso prints for under 5 grand. That's a fantastic birthday present.
Being able to buy a work of this quality by an artist of such huge significance really puts the ludicrous cash cow that this scene has become into perspective. That you can pick up one of these at the same time that an editioned print by stik, as an example, is considered good value at ยฃ6,000 is quite astonishing..
I bought myself a small Picasso etching for my birthday. Hand signed / numbered edition of 50. Blows my mind that you can still buy signed Picasso prints for under 5 grand. That's a fantastic birthday present. Being able to buy a work of this quality by an artist of such huge significance really puts the ludicrous cash cow that this scene has become into perspective. That you can pick up one of these at the same time that an editioned print by stik, as an example, is considered good value at ยฃ6,000 is quite astonishing..
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Price check, signed albino invader print, by disappointed on Nov 6, 2016 23:48:24 GMT 1, No idea what its worth but just wanted to chip in to say that I consider this to one of his very best. Up there with Space File and Homeworks.
That opinion is maybe tainted by happy memories of buying one back in the day when his print releases were less numerous and he hadn't harmed his standing with me with his subsequent flooding of the market with increasingly dull work.
Oddly, mine is dedicated to fellow Parisian, Zevs. Don't know why it never made it to him or, if he did, how it ended up for sale.
No idea what its worth but just wanted to chip in to say that I consider this to one of his very best. Up there with Space File and Homeworks.
That opinion is maybe tainted by happy memories of buying one back in the day when his print releases were less numerous and he hadn't harmed his standing with me with his subsequent flooding of the market with increasingly dull work.
Oddly, mine is dedicated to fellow Parisian, Zevs. Don't know why it never made it to him or, if he did, how it ended up for sale.
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Ernest Zacharevic ๐ฑ๐น Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by disappointed on Nov 6, 2016 13:15:25 GMT 1, Whilst it is very proper and correct that you highlight this sort of thing my belief is that those who worry about insignificant blemishes or marks on the reverse of an artwork, or of the minor dings that can occur to the edges of paper works, should not be allowed to buy art.
I actually think it would be great to see more artists release artwork accompanied with the 'Artist's Condition' designation that was often applied to Bast's rough and ready output as that would maybe calm down the obsession with a piece of paper being pristine. It often seems that any superficial wear and damage that a piece of paper demonstrates is just used as a convenient stick with which to demand unreasonable price reductions when buying..
Anyway, best of luck with the sale..
Whilst it is very proper and correct that you highlight this sort of thing my belief is that those who worry about insignificant blemishes or marks on the reverse of an artwork, or of the minor dings that can occur to the edges of paper works, should not be allowed to buy art.
I actually think it would be great to see more artists release artwork accompanied with the 'Artist's Condition' designation that was often applied to Bast's rough and ready output as that would maybe calm down the obsession with a piece of paper being pristine. It often seems that any superficial wear and damage that a piece of paper demonstrates is just used as a convenient stick with which to demand unreasonable price reductions when buying..
Anyway, best of luck with the sale..
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Show us YOUR - Canvas, by disappointed on Nov 5, 2016 22:29:01 GMT 1, I am partial to this ..... sold a signed Banksy a few years back to fund this beast.. sometimes i regret it - you know all the hype about money and banksy pieces going up up up... and then other times i just calm down and enjoy it for being amazing and the best piece of art i own. That is an outstanding faile.
There isn't a banksy print that will give as much long lasting viewing pleasure as this so I'd say that you made a very wise move.
I am partial to this ..... sold a signed Banksy a few years back to fund this beast.. sometimes i regret it - you know all the hype about money and banksy pieces going up up up... and then other times i just calm down and enjoy it for being amazing and the best piece of art i own. That is an outstanding faile. There isn't a banksy print that will give as much long lasting viewing pleasure as this so I'd say that you made a very wise move.
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Ben Eine "Tasty P", by disappointed on Nov 5, 2016 22:01:48 GMT 1, That is graffitiprints either being wrong or being bad at English. Or both.
Either way, it is a hand coloured P.
That is graffitiprints either being wrong or being bad at English. Or both. Either way, it is a hand coloured P.
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Ben Eine "Tasty P", by disappointed on Nov 5, 2016 15:54:34 GMT 1, Always liked this one.
It remains an interesting deviation from his usual, and somewhat played out, schtick.
Always liked this one.
It remains an interesting deviation from his usual, and somewhat played out, schtick.
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Dran โข I Have Chalks, by disappointed on Nov 5, 2016 13:13:26 GMT 1, Eye Kandi Art and Graffitistreet has IHCs for sale. Prices ranging from GBP 3,35k - 5k. In my opinion, this is where they are at for the moment. Unless somebody can find a private seller and get a little discount....and then there are the top class IHCs...check out gorkieartdogmaยดs version. Thanks.
I had not seen those for sale but, yeah, looking at those I consider my pricing to be reasonable as I believe this to be superior to all of them, especially the ones at ยฃ5k and POA.
Gorkies is indeed an excellent example..
Eye Kandi Art and Graffitistreet has IHCs for sale. Prices ranging from GBP 3,35k - 5k. In my opinion, this is where they are at for the moment. Unless somebody can find a private seller and get a little discount....and then there are the top class IHCs...check out gorkieartdogmaยดs version. Thanks. I had not seen those for sale but, yeah, looking at those I consider my pricing to be reasonable as I believe this to be superior to all of them, especially the ones at ยฃ5k and POA. Gorkies is indeed an excellent example..
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Dran โข I Have Chalks, by disappointed on Nov 5, 2016 12:20:15 GMT 1, I've seen a lot of very decent uniques of Dran unsold on auction houses (including mine) with nobody raising hand around 5-6kโฌ (size around 45x35cm). I love IHC but I can't understand how people can pay the same for a 100 multiple (even if all are diffรฉrents). I'd be a buyer if the market was around 3-3.5k. GLFYS
Just because something is unique does not automatically make it more desirable than an editioned work. I haven't seen all these 'very decent' unsold unique pieces you refer to so can't really compare to this but given that Dran has certainly produced more than his fair share of weak work which I could easily see many struggling to sell. I consider this to be am very strong example of Dran's style, regardless of it being part of an edition, and would take it over many of the original Dran artworks that I have seen for sale.
I think what you are maybe not considering is that a multiple can be more attractive to many buyers as it may be seen as a safer buy due to being quantifiable, having a proven trading history, etc, whereas a unique piece is more of an unknown. I have certainly seen many, many extremely impressive original artworks offered for sale but without takers whereas much less artistically interesting prints will fly out the door all day long.
It's been a very long time since I had any real interest in collecting regular print editions but certain multiples, such as the IHC series, do move some way beyond a simple edition and into a far more interesting creative space.
Thanks for the input though.
I've seen a lot of very decent uniques of Dran unsold on auction houses (including mine) with nobody raising hand around 5-6kโฌ (size around 45x35cm). I love IHC but I can't understand how people can pay the same for a 100 multiple (even if all are diffรฉrents). I'd be a buyer if the market was around 3-3.5k. GLFYS Just because something is unique does not automatically make it more desirable than an editioned work. I haven't seen all these 'very decent' unsold unique pieces you refer to so can't really compare to this but given that Dran has certainly produced more than his fair share of weak work which I could easily see many struggling to sell. I consider this to be am very strong example of Dran's style, regardless of it being part of an edition, and would take it over many of the original Dran artworks that I have seen for sale. I think what you are maybe not considering is that a multiple can be more attractive to many buyers as it may be seen as a safer buy due to being quantifiable, having a proven trading history, etc, whereas a unique piece is more of an unknown. I have certainly seen many, many extremely impressive original artworks offered for sale but without takers whereas much less artistically interesting prints will fly out the door all day long. It's been a very long time since I had any real interest in collecting regular print editions but certain multiples, such as the IHC series, do move some way beyond a simple edition and into a far more interesting creative space. Thanks for the input though.
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Banksy - Very Little Helps (Very Little Helps) - Signed Limited Edition wi, by disappointed on Nov 3, 2016 21:59:39 GMT 1, Just read this thread, and the comment about prints being exposed to light got my attention. Surely if a print is conservation framed with UV glass, you should be safe no....otherwise what's the point in UV protection? Hmmm...Makes me want to open my Very Little Helps to check Save I've heard of supposedly conservation framed artworks being found to be nothing of the sort when the art was later removed from its frame. And of supposedly UV protective perspex failing to prevent significant fading of a very rare piece of memorabilia..
Sometimes you get what you pay for I guess, even with framers that have a decent reputation.
Just read this thread, and the comment about prints being exposed to light got my attention. Surely if a print is conservation framed with UV glass, you should be safe no....otherwise what's the point in UV protection? Hmmm...Makes me want to open my Very Little Helps to check SaveI've heard of supposedly conservation framed artworks being found to be nothing of the sort when the art was later removed from its frame. And of supposedly UV protective perspex failing to prevent significant fading of a very rare piece of memorabilia.. Sometimes you get what you pay for I guess, even with framers that have a decent reputation.
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Dran โข I Have Chalks, by disappointed on Nov 2, 2016 21:11:50 GMT 1, I do love a good 'I have chalks'. I think Dran prices have been declining of late, saying that he will always have a cult following and his stronger works will always carry a premium. I paid full whack for my 'I Love you'. I think around ยฃ4k GBP would be a very fair price for this particular work. i agree thats one of the stronger ones.. curious as well what these have been selling for.. 4-5k? im guessing out of thin air, havent seen any lately Thanks for the input.
Yeah, i think that's probably not far off what I feel it's worth but that is based really just on a far less interesting example offered (and apparently sold) for ยฃ5k a year ago so with the strength of this piece I'd be asking for offers in excess of ยฃ4,500
Is there anywhere that tracks prices? I have no idea how a decline or gain in value of an artwork is really determined other than seeing examples of similar pieces sold and I really haven't seen many Chalks sold.
I do love a good 'I have chalks'. I think Dran prices have been declining of late, saying that he will always have a cult following and his stronger works will always carry a premium. I paid full whack for my 'I Love you'. I think around ยฃ4k GBP would be a very fair price for this particular work. i agree thats one of the stronger ones.. curious as well what these have been selling for.. 4-5k? im guessing out of thin air, havent seen any lately Thanks for the input. Yeah, i think that's probably not far off what I feel it's worth but that is based really just on a far less interesting example offered (and apparently sold) for ยฃ5k a year ago so with the strength of this piece I'd be asking for offers in excess of ยฃ4,500 Is there anywhere that tracks prices? I have no idea how a decline or gain in value of an artwork is really determined other than seeing examples of similar pieces sold and I really haven't seen many Chalks sold.
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Dran โข I Have Chalks, by disappointed on Nov 2, 2016 16:29:57 GMT 1, Looking to sell this Dran 'I Have Chalks' as it is unlikely to make it back on to my walls.
This piece is one of the hand embellished screenprints from the edition of 100 sold at the POW show in 2010 and I am the original owner having bought it on the opening night of the show.
Despite the significant variation in styles and everything being subjective, I still consider this to be one of the strongest images and one which benefits from being quite individual (there were a fair few riffs on several themes). I had the choice of 90 odd remaining prints when buying and this stood out as the best (to me, at least) as the message is both funny and well realized.
Over the vandalized spray painted wall the kid is busying himself by writing in crayon 'je n'รฉcrirais pas sur les murs' which translates as, more or less, 'I will not write on the walls'. I've always assumed the text to be a referencing the rather earnest Demis Roussos song 'On รฉcrit sur les murs' ..
I don't really know where the prices are for this print as I haven't seen one sell publicly for an age so will need to request guidance on the value and offers but anticipate a potential selling price to be reasonably serious.
UK based so would prefer a UK deal if possible and I can provide a few forum references to a potential buyer if needed.
Looking to sell this Dran 'I Have Chalks' as it is unlikely to make it back on to my walls. This piece is one of the hand embellished screenprints from the edition of 100 sold at the POW show in 2010 and I am the original owner having bought it on the opening night of the show. Despite the significant variation in styles and everything being subjective, I still consider this to be one of the strongest images and one which benefits from being quite individual (there were a fair few riffs on several themes). I had the choice of 90 odd remaining prints when buying and this stood out as the best (to me, at least) as the message is both funny and well realized. Over the vandalized spray painted wall the kid is busying himself by writing in crayon 'je n'รฉcrirais pas sur les murs' which translates as, more or less, 'I will not write on the walls'. I've always assumed the text to be a referencing the rather earnest Demis Roussos song 'On รฉcrit sur les murs' .. I don't really know where the prices are for this print as I haven't seen one sell publicly for an age so will need to request guidance on the value and offers but anticipate a potential selling price to be reasonably serious. UK based so would prefer a UK deal if possible and I can provide a few forum references to a potential buyer if needed.
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Inside Art Collectors Homes, by disappointed on Oct 19, 2016 20:30:57 GMT 1, Couple of very fine swoo.n's there.
She is one of the very best.
Couple of very fine swoo.n's there.
She is one of the very best.
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Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by disappointed on Oct 13, 2016 15:53:59 GMT 1, I'm surprised no-one has taken those Miaz Brothers from you. Great images for a very fair price.
And Und Erotik remains one of the great BAST images. I have a similar 1/1 variant..
I'm surprised no-one has taken those Miaz Brothers from you. Great images for a very fair price.
And Und Erotik remains one of the great BAST images. I have a similar 1/1 variant..
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by disappointed on Oct 12, 2016 19:29:41 GMT 1, Happy to be picking up this shrigley tomorrow
That's a great buy. Consider me quite jealous...
Happy to be picking up this shrigley tomorrow That's a great buy. Consider me quite jealous...
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Kunstrasen Spot Remover print., by disappointed on Oct 7, 2016 16:52:36 GMT 1, I'm not sure what the price has to do with anything? Quite a lot! He may have done it better but most mortals couldn't afford a Banksy. An iconic image recreated by a respectable artist at ยฃ125 is a good buy. You might not like it but some do. My banksy reference was in reply to someone asking if they had seen this image before, not to someone asking if they have seen this before and, if so, where can they get a cheap copy from. The cost is absolutely irrelevant to the question.
And, iconic? I'd suggest that in order to define an image as iconic it at least needs to be a fresh idea as opposed to a piece very heavily inspired by a previous artist's work.
I'm not sure what the price has to do with anything? Quite a lot! He may have done it better but most mortals couldn't afford a Banksy. An iconic image recreated by a respectable artist at ยฃ125 is a good buy. You might not like it but some do. My banksy reference was in reply to someone asking if they had seen this image before, not to someone asking if they have seen this before and, if so, where can they get a cheap copy from. The cost is absolutely irrelevant to the question. And, iconic? I'd suggest that in order to define an image as iconic it at least needs to be a fresh idea as opposed to a piece very heavily inspired by a previous artist's work.
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Kunstrasen Spot Remover print., by disappointed on Oct 7, 2016 16:33:51 GMT 1, Yeah, bansky did it much better many years ago. Yeh but I bet you couldn't buy his now for ยฃ125!! I'm not sure what the price has to do with anything?
Yeah, bansky did it much better many years ago. Yeh but I bet you couldn't buy his now for ยฃ125!! I'm not sure what the price has to do with anything?
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Kunstrasen Spot Remover print., by disappointed on Oct 7, 2016 16:19:11 GMT 1, Yeah, banksy did it much better many years ago.
Yeah, banksy did it much better many years ago.
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