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BANKSY Gross Domestic Productโข, by met on Nov 1, 2019 14:43:20 GMT 1, Art (looks like it's by) Jamie Hewlligan x
Agreed that this drawing is by Jamie Hewlett*.
Art (looks like it's by) Jamie Hewlligan x Agreed that this drawing is by Jamie Hewlett*.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Productโข, by met on Nov 1, 2019 14:29:45 GMT 1, In all seriousness... which I do very rarely, what the f**kdoes anyone do with a Banksy stab vest should you become lucky enough to buy it? I genuinely donโt know where Iโd put it in my house... and selling it wouldnโt be an option. Iโd definitely want to keep it. Is it possible to purchase a life-sized statue of Stormzy so you could display the vest in your living room with some context?
Life size princess diana to wear it surely
Rather than body armour, Diana would have been better served by common sense and her seatbelt.
In all seriousness... which I do very rarely, what the f**kdoes anyone do with a Banksy stab vest should you become lucky enough to buy it? I genuinely donโt know where Iโd put it in my house... and selling it wouldnโt be an option. Iโd definitely want to keep it. Is it possible to purchase a life-sized statue of Stormzy so you could display the vest in your living room with some context? Life size princess diana to wear it surely Rather than body armour, Diana would have been better served by common sense and her seatbelt.
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Banksy Captured Book โข Steve Lazarides , by met on Oct 31, 2019 0:56:32 GMT 1, Wonder what itโs called, I know the image by heart Itโs a bringe in London? Young girl with covered hair, a brother.. on the bridge there is Banksy paste ups of Che in Raybans
This Camden init?
This is the tube bridge (viewed from the south) over Portobello Road in Notting Hill, next to the A40 Westway.
Wonder what itโs called, I know the image by heart Itโs a bringe in London? Young girl with covered hair, a brother.. on the bridge there is Banksy paste ups of Che in Raybans This Camden init?This is the tube bridge (viewed from the south) over Portobello Road in Notting Hill, next to the A40 Westway.
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Original inspiration for Banksy Images, by met on Oct 31, 2019 0:19:48 GMT 1, Thought i would reawaken this great thread again Add your photos of Original inspiration for Banksy Images Here (Banksy images have been adjusted to fit the original source) Here are a few to start things off: [...] [...]
The shot by Nick Stern is just a cutesy photographic reenactment of Banksy's painting. It is not a source image for that painting.
www.boredpanda.com/you-are-not-banksy-nick-stern/
Thought i would reawaken this great thread again Add your photos of Original inspiration for Banksy Images Here (Banksy images have been adjusted to fit the original source) Here are a few to start things off: [...] [...] The shot by Nick Stern is just a cutesy photographic reenactment of Ban ksy's painting. It is not a source image for that painting. www.boredpanda.com/you-are-not-banksy-nick-stern/
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Sharks & Art, by met on Oct 30, 2019 23:59:39 GMT 1, Finally done - 23 layers of spraypaint on 2 skateboards - found in the garbage A ridicoulous amount of work for a lame joke. Facing the Giant
There follows some additional context for those who aren't familiar with the legal issues Shepard Fairey was forced to address in relation to Andrรฉ the Giant.
This question and answer below are extracted from an interview with Fairey by Chris Nieratko for International Tattoo magazine (March 1999 issue):
CN: One question Iโve had since I first saw your stuff is how is it you have access to Andreโs image?
SF: I donโt. I stole it. I finally got a notification from his estate that I couldnโt use the phrase โAndre the Giantโ in any images or use his face in anything. The thing is, and this is why I had to shut my Web site down and change the name from www.andrethegiant.com to www.obeygiant.com., because the WWF owns the name obey giant (sic โ presumably this should read "Andre the Giant"). It took them nine years to figure it out. My Web site seemed like such an official obey giant website (sic โ presumably this should read "Andre the Giant website") because of the name that people kept hitting it up. I donโt even know how I got that domain name. Youโd think it would have been taken. A lot of wrestling fans were hitting the site, and eventually somebody pointed it out to the WWF people. But in the more recent images that Iโve done, the face has changed enough from the original likeness to not be copyright infringement. So what Iโm gonna do is still make the original sticker, just not sell them or put that name on any clothing that I could get a lawsuit for. As far as the fine art domain, itโs totally open. Warhol didnโt get sued for using Marilyn Monroeโs likeness, as long it was changed enough. I just canโt sell products with the name obey giant, so now itโs all gonna just say Giant.
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Finally done - 23 layers of spraypaint on 2 skateboards - found in the garbage A ridicoulous amount of work for a lame joke. Facing the GiantThere follows some additional context for those who aren't familiar with the legal issues Shepard Fairey was forced to address in relation to Andrรฉ the Giant. This question and answer below are extracted from an interview with Fai rey by Chris Nieratko for International Tattoo magazine (March 1999 issue): CN: One question Iโve had since I first saw your stuff is how is it you have access to Andreโs image?
SF: I donโt. I stole it. I finally got a notification from his estate that I couldnโt use the phrase โAndre the Giantโ in any images or use his face in anything. The thing is, and this is why I had to shut my Web site down and change the name from www.andrethegiant.com to www.obeygiant.com., because the WWF owns the name obey giant (sic โ presumably this should read "Andre the Giant"). It took them nine years to figure it out. My Web site seemed like such an official obey giant website (sic โ presumably this should read "Andre the Giant website") because of the name that people kept hitting it up. I donโt even know how I got that domain name. Youโd think it would have been taken. A lot of wrestling fans were hitting the site, and eventually somebody pointed it out to the WWF people. But in the more recent images that Iโve done, the face has changed enough from the original likeness to not be copyright infringement. So what Iโm gonna do is still make the original sticker, just not sell them or put that name on any clothing that I could get a lawsuit for. As far as the fine art domain, itโs totally open. Warhol didnโt get sued for using Marilyn Monroeโs likeness, as long it was changed enough. I just canโt sell products with the name obey giant, so now itโs all gonna just say Giant.obeygiant.com/articles/international-tattoo-magazine/
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Early Banksy Art, by met on Oct 30, 2019 17:20:09 GMT 1, Similar in style to the work he put up in 1999 at the Carlton Arms Hotel in NYC: I love it when people come out and say he cant paint because of using stencils.. 20 years ago he was making work that's still better than 99% of his haters.
With this use of comparative language about making work, it sounds as if you're suggesting Banksy's art is disliked by a large number of his fellow artists.
Although I'm unaware of many who've been openly critical, it would be interesting to hear the ones whose work you believe is better than Banksy's โ namely, which specific "hater" artists you place in the 1% category.
Similar in style to the work he put up in 1999 at the Carlton Arms Hotel in NYC: I love it when people come out and say he cant paint because of using stencils.. 20 years ago he was making work that's still better than 99% of his haters. With this use of comparative language about making work, it sounds as if you're suggesting Ban ksy's art is disliked by a large number of his fellow artists. Although I'm unaware of many who've been openly critical, it would be interesting to hear the ones whose work you believe is better than Ban ksy's โ namely, which specific "hater" artists you place in the 1% category.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Productโข, by met on Oct 30, 2019 15:51:10 GMT 1, I feel so sad... . I havenโt had a healthy life last 20 days..I have slept badly... f**kyou Banksy! and your tricks! Why you didn't do open edition like Fairey... 35โฌ and all people happy.. only few people will celebrate in next days... exactly what happen in the society that you fight against. Your open edition can be found on the Gross Domestic Productโข web page below.
Click the 'Download' box for a large-format, high-res image of Thrower, and then print out at leisure:
shop.grossdomesticproduct.com/pages/legal
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In addition, here is some recommended reading:
psychcentral.com/news/2016/09/14/sense-of-entitlement-may-lead-to-vicious-cycle-of-distress/109854.html
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Early Banksy Art, by met on Oct 29, 2019 12:55:00 GMT 1, I think this is what you're looking for cosmic .... [...]
Although this work is clearly a knowing nod to Surfer (1999)* by Jonathan Glazer*, I was curious to discover whether it was based on a specific image.
The relevant frame turns out to be 39 seconds into the extended commercial. A mirrored version of that frame appears to have served as source image for the Banksy canvas:
Guinness - Surfer (1999) - uploaded by angelakard87
I think this is what you're looking for cosmic .... [...] Although this work is clearly a knowing nod to Surfer (1999) * by Jonathan Glazer*, I was curious to discover whether it was based on a specific image. The relevant frame turns out to be 39 seconds into the extended commercial. A mirrored version of that frame appears to have served as source image for the Banksy canvas: Guinness - Surfer (1999)- uploaded by angelakard87
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Productโข, by met on Oct 29, 2019 11:29:42 GMT 1, Anyone who purposely clicks a link to a webpage address that includes a reference to "grossdp" deserves exactly what they get.
Anyone who purposely clicks a link to a webpage address that includes a reference to "grossdp" deserves exactly what they get.
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99 Red balloons (post your GWRB photos here), by met on Oct 29, 2019 11:08:13 GMT 1, Anyone got a photo of the one on the old oil painting? One of my favourites. i know which one you're talking about , spent one hour trying to find it but no luck , was sure i had it somewhere
You may be referring to the painting below, with the seriously kitsch Winter Wonderland-style background.
It was revealed in a May 2012 update to Banksy's website.
Don't know whether the collaboration was voluntary for the original artist.
Anyone got a photo of the one on the old oil painting? One of my favourites. i know which one you're talking about , spent one hour trying to find it but no luck , was sure i had it somewhere You may be referring to the painting below, with the seriously kitsch Winter Wonderland-style background. It was revealed in a May 2012 update to Ban ksy's website. Don't know whether the collaboration was voluntary for the original artist.
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99 Red balloons (post your GWRB photos here), by met on Oct 29, 2019 10:43:29 GMT 1, Never seen this before Where is it from ?
Never seen this before Where is it from ?
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Early Banksy Art, by met on Oct 28, 2019 12:19:02 GMT 1, It's one part of Slate Britain* from 2007, Wallinger's recreation of Brian Haw's Parliament Square peace camp. "State" not "Slate". (Wouldn't comment if I didn't know you were particular with details, Met. ) Thank you for the correction.
And, indeed, factual accuracy (especially my own) is important to me.
Rather embarrassingly, that mistake will have slipped through my net at least twice โ since I always proofread before clicking the 'Create Post' button. It may have been a Freudian typo.
It's one part of Slate Britain* from 2007, Wallinger's recreation of Brian Haw's Parliament Square peace camp. "State" not "Slate". (Wouldn't comment if I didn't know you were particular with details, Met. ) Thank you for the correction. And, indeed, factual accuracy (especially my own) is important to me. Rather embarrassingly, that mistake will have slipped through my net at least twice โ since I always proofread before clicking the 'Create Post' button. It may have been a Freudian typo.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Productโข, by met on Oct 28, 2019 11:36:08 GMT 1, ok banksy we love your new spray paint work mocking my dream of getting a can. Well played Mr B. I knew you was watching the forum. Just up by banksy. ๐ค
Where was this posted? This is a Banksy? The jacket looks great but the font and the drone don't really look like him. If it is him--- the feet aren't bad!!! Looks more like JPS than Banksy. Might be wrong about that but pretty sure it's not Banksy.
I share your view that this drone piece does look like JPS.
Technically, JPS is improving and becoming more accomplished.
However, the aspects of his work that have yet to evolve are his ideas, sensibility and humour. To my mind, these have always been embarrassing. Consistently so. JPS simply lacks wit. And this weakness is most clearly betrayed by his choice of text โ which is poor enough to make an adult wince.
In any event, the above painting certainly isn't by Banksy.
There should be zero doubt about this in the minds of seasoned enthusiasts. Can anyone really imagine Banksy writing something as pointlessly dull as "Can Control"?
Same every time this forum Could not make there minds up after extinction Rebellion piece. After over a decade anyway. Yeah sure it's by JPS. Time will tell.
Given this place consists of all sorts of people with different characters, backgrounds and experience, I would argue it's a mistake to look at the Urban Art Association as a single block.
It seems preferable to consider forum members individually. And then, based on their post history, make an assessment as to whether they appear sensible and reasonably informed.
From what I read at the time, among members who give me the impression of knowing what they're talking about, none expressed the opinion that the Extinction Rebellion piece was not by Banksy.
ok banksy we love your new spray paint work mocking my dream of getting a can. Well played Mr B. I knew you was watching the forum. Just up by banksy. ๐ค Where was this posted? This is a Banksy? The jacket looks great but the font and the drone don't really look like him. If it is him--- the feet aren't bad!!! Looks more like JPS than Banksy. Might be wrong about that but pretty sure it's not Banksy. I share your view that this drone piece does look like JPS. Technically, JP S is improving and becoming more accomplished. However, the aspects of his work that have yet to evolve are his ideas, sensibility and humour. To my mind, these have always been embarrassing. Consistently so. JP S simply lacks wit. And this weakness is most clearly betrayed by his choice of text โ which is poor enough to make an adult wince. In any event, the above painting certainly isn't by Banksy. There should be zero doubt about this in the minds of seasoned enthusiasts. Can anyone really imagine Ban ksy writing something as pointlessly dull as "Can Control"? Same every time this forum Could not make there minds up after extinction Rebellion piece. After over a decade anyway. Yeah sure it's by JPS. Time will tell. Given this place consists of all sorts of people with different characters, backgrounds and experience, I would argue it's a mistake to look at the Urb an Art Association as a single block. It seems preferable to consider forum members individually. And then, based on their post history, make an assessment as to whether they appear sensible and reasonably informed. From what I read at the time, among members who give me the impression of knowing what they're talking about, none expressed the opinion that the Extinction Rebellion piece was not by Ban ksy.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Productโข, by met on Oct 27, 2019 20:05:34 GMT 1, anyone know which Show this was from please ?
This may be my pic, but not sure. It's from a street art exhibition in Silkeborg, Denmark 2008. The pig head was on eBay a year or two earlier and I believe the seller got it from a party where Banksy had brought it. Or something like that. Here's the poster from the exhibition. One of the nicest Banksy posters I have. urbanartassociation.com/thread/143487/banksy-silkeborg-2008That was the 'Call It What You Like' show of Rik Reinking's private collection. I too remember the eBay listing, presumably where Reinking acquired it. I considered buying it myself believing it to be real, but didn't as, well, it's crap isn't it. Very early work if Reinking is to be believed, he has it catalogued as created in 1995.
If memory serves, that eBay listing was discussed on the former eBay.co.uk Banksy forum โ either while the auction was still live, or shortly after it ended.
Although this piece is too obvious to be very engaging conceptually, a literal joke can still be a good laugh.
The main issue for me at the time was aesthetic. While hardly visible in the above photo, besides the snout and mouth, I recall the household emulsion covered a fairly large patch of the boar's fur. And it seemed as if it had been partly wiped off while still wet. But not in an interesting or visually-pleasing way. The application of that paint looked like the result of a botched experiment. Or perhaps a drunken accident.
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Given the style of stencil tag on the custodian helmet, query whether the date of creation attributed by Reinking (1995) might be off by a few years.
It would also be interesting to discover whether Pest Control Office issued a certificate of authenticity for the piece. If it was indeed brought to a party and then left there, would it be deemed a gift?
anyone know which Show this was from please ? This may be my pic, but not sure. It's from a street art exhibition in Silkeborg, Denmark 2008. The pig head was on eBay a year or two earlier and I believe the seller got it from a party where Banksy had brought it. Or something like that. Here's the poster from the exhibition. One of the nicest Banksy posters I have. urbanartassociation.com/thread/143487/banksy-silkeborg-2008That was the 'Call It What You Like' show of Rik Reinking's private collection. I too remember the eBay listing, presumably where Reinking acquired it. I considered buying it myself believing it to be real, but didn't as, well, it's crap isn't it. Very early work if Reinking is to be believed, he has it catalogued as created in 1995. If memory serves, that eB ay listing was discussed on the former eBay.co.uk Banksy forum โ either while the auction was still live, or shortly after it ended. Although this piece is too obvious to be very engaging conceptually, a literal joke can still be a good laugh. The main issue for me at the time was aesthetic. While hardly visible in the above photo, besides the snout and mouth, I recall the household emulsion covered a fairly large patch of the boar's fur. And it seemed as if it had been partly wiped off while still wet. But not in an interesting or visually-pleasing way. The application of that paint looked like the result of a botched experiment. Or perhaps a drunken accident. __________ Given the style of stencil tag on the custodian helmet, query whether the date of creation attributed by Reinking (1995) might be off by a few years. It would also be interesting to discover whether Pest Control Office issued a certificate of authenticity for the piece. If it was indeed brought to a party and then left there, would it be deemed a gift?
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Early Banksy Art, by met on Oct 27, 2019 17:29:00 GMT 1,
This is by Mark Wallinger at Tate Britain, not Banksy.
It's one part of Slate Britain* from 2007, Wallinger's recreation of Brian Haw's Parliament Square peace camp.
This is by Mark Wallinger at Tate Britain, not Banksy. It's one part of Slate Britain* from 2007, Wallinger's recreation of Brian Haw's Parliament Square peace camp.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by met on Oct 27, 2019 16:03:41 GMT 1, For the benefit of anyone whose first language is not English: 1. To "trade-in" (phrasal verb) means to swap or exchange [one item for another]. 2. To "trade in" (verb + preposition) โ i.e. as this expression is used in the context of the Bbay dealership web page * โ means to do business in, or to deal in [secondhand work by Ban ksy]. Met, I just want to take a moment to thank you for your posts on here. Your thoughts and contributions are very much appreciated. Cheers, Ip โ the feeling is mutual.
Whether it be an airplane or a forum, it's always reassuring to have a doctor like yourself on board.
For the benefit of anyone whose first language is not English: 1. To "trade-in" (phrasal verb) means to swap or exchange [one item for another]. 2. To "trade in" (verb + preposition) โ i.e. as this expression is used in the context of the Bbay dealership web page * โ means to do business in, or to deal in [secondhand work by Ban ksy]. Met, I just want to take a moment to thank you for your posts on here. Your thoughts and contributions are very much appreciated. Cheers, Ip โ the feeling is mutual. Whether it be an airplane or a forum, it's always reassuring to have a doctor like yourself on board.
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Banksy Rat, Flower Thrower, Crisis hi res images, by met on Oct 27, 2019 14:58:57 GMT 1, Am I the only one thinking the rat prints are more than a bit rubbish without being part of a clock face? As freebies, the rat prints seem alright, despite the absence of their original context of the clock face alluding to a hamster wheel.
By far the weakest of the posters in my view is the image of the flowers. It just doesn't work as a standalone piece.
Imagine a visitor asking, "Is that a hand holding out a bouquet? What's it supposed to mean?" Quite likely, the owner would be unable to answer without also having to spell out that it's one of three parts of a larger work. Three parts which, at least when combined, actually do make sense and hold interest.
Understandably, the owner might be a little embarrassed about relying on such a dissatisfactory art explanation. But the only thing they'd really have left is the option to name-drop โ which seems even more tragic and desperate: "Um. It's by Banksy. He's a famous artist."
If I had any of the three posters, Crisis as Usual is the only one I would consider hanging.
Am I the only one thinking the rat prints are more than a bit rubbish without being part of a clock face? As freebies, the rat prints seem alright, despite the absence of their original context of the clock face alluding to a hamster wheel. By far the weakest of the posters in my view is the image of the flowers. It just doesn't work as a standalone piece. Imagine a visitor asking, "Is that a hand holding out a bouquet? What's it supposed to mean?" Quite likely, the owner would be unable to answer without also having to spell out that it's one of three parts of a larger work. Three parts which, at least when combined, actually do make sense and hold interest. Understandably, the owner might be a little embarrassed about relying on such a dissatisfactory art explanation. But the only thing they'd really have left is the option to name-drop โ which seems even more tragic and desperate: "Um. It's by Banksy. He's a famous artist."If I had any of the three posters, Crisis as Usual is the only one I would consider hanging.
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BANKSY Gross Domestic Productโข, by met on Oct 27, 2019 11:59:38 GMT 1, Is the closing date and time 23:59 today or is it tomorrow ? In the How it works section* of Gross Domestic Productโข, it states:
"You have until 28th October to browse the shop and register your interest to buy a product."
That calendar date corresponds to Monday. We can therefore ask ourselves how the sentence would be understood if the current reference to "28th October" were replaced with "Monday".
Take a different example:
"You have until Monday to pay up, or we visit your family home with a blowtorch, hammer and pair of pliers."
In this case, I figure that paying in full on Monday evening would still be within the agreed terms and conditions.
Is the closing date and time 23:59 today or is it tomorrow ? In the How it works section * of Gross Domestic Productโข, it states: "You have until 28th October to browse the shop and register your interest to buy a product."That calendar date corresponds to Monday. We can therefore ask ourselves how the sentence would be understood if the current reference to "28th October" were replaced with "Monday". Take a different example: "You have until Monday to pay up, or we visit your family home with a blowtorch, hammer and pair of pliers."In this case, I figure that paying in full on Monday evening would still be within the agreed terms and conditions.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by met on Oct 26, 2019 22:37:41 GMT 1, Thereโs no hyphen in the Bbay text. Give it a fรผcking rest will you Ploppi. For the benefit of anyone whose first language is not English:
1. To "trade-in" (phrasal verb) means to swap or exchange [one item for another].
2. To "trade in" (verb + preposition) โ i.e. as this expression is used in the context of the Bbay dealership web page* โ means to do business in, or to deal in [secondhand work by Banksy].
Thereโs no hyphen in the Bbay text. Give it a fรผcking rest will you Ploppi. For the benefit of anyone whose first language is not English: 1. To "trade-in" (phrasal verb) means to swap or exchange [one item for another]. 2. To "trade in" (verb + preposition) โ i.e. as this expression is used in the context of the Bbay dealership web page * โ means to do business in, or to deal in [secondhand work by Ban ksy].
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Maya Hayuk Original Light Energy OG & Connor Brothers, by met on Oct 26, 2019 21:19:15 GMT 1, [...] The Connor Brothers If Youve Got A Skeleton In Your Closetโฆ. Mixed-media acrylic, oil, screenprint and giclรฉe print with hand finished varnish on Somerset Satin Enhanced paper Size approx 123cm x 77cm framed. (paper size 113 x 67 cm) Edition of 10 Offers around ยฃ4k [...] [...]
THE CONNOR BROTHERS RECIPE
It's simple. It's easy. You too can make good money from home.
1. Steal somebody else's artwork. [Rein van Looy]
2. Steal somebody else's quote.
3. Mix with a dash of Photoshop.
4. Presto and voilร !
Now print off countless copies (in multiple editions, dimensions, mediums and colourways), sign as your own, and sell to the ignorant or undiscerning.
[...] The Connor Brothers If Youve Got A Skeleton In Your Closetโฆ. Mixed-media acrylic, oil, screenprint and giclรฉe print with hand finished varnish on Somerset Satin Enhanced paper Size approx 123cm x 77cm framed. (paper size 113 x 67 cm) Edition of 10 Offers around ยฃ4k [...] [...] THE CONNOR BROTHERS RECIPEIt's simple. It's easy. You too can make good money from home. 1. Steal somebody else's artwork. [Rein van Looy]2. Steal somebody else's quote.3. Mix with a dash of Photoshop.4. Presto and voilร ! Now print off countless copies (in multiple editions, dimensions, mediums and colourways), sign as your own, and sell to the ignorant or undiscerning.
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Banksy Copyrightยฉ & Trademarkโข, by met on Oct 25, 2019 10:32:41 GMT 1, Some interesting news on GDP Copyright and Trade Marks Certain images used on this website are reproduced with the express permission of the artist, Banksy. Copyright is retained by the artist and images must not be reproduced without the express written permission of the artist of Pest Control Office Limited. BANKSY, the Girl with a Balloon logo and the Flower Thrower logo are registered EU Trade Marks belonging to Pest Control Office Limited. We use these EU Trade Marks to denote the authenticity of our products and services. Only official products and services are allowed to use these EU Trade Marks, or our other trade marks. You are not permitted to use our EU Trade Marks without our express written approval. Any unauthorised reproduction may result in legal proceedings.
This is clever. Banksy's legal team deserves recognition here for its problem-solving skills.
By registering Girl with Balloon and Flower Thrower as logos subject to trade mark, if it so wishes, Pest Control Office as trade mark owner has the option of going after infringers alone.
What it means is that, at least with respect to this imagery (among Banksy's most recognised and most-often reproduced without authorisation), there'd be no need to initiate any claim for breach of copyright. In other words, no need for the artist himself to get directly involved.
Some interesting news on GDP Copyright and Trade Marks Certain images used on this website are reproduced with the express permission of the artist, Banksy. Copyright is retained by the artist and images must not be reproduced without the express written permission of the artist of Pest Control Office Limited. BANKSY, the Girl with a Balloon logo and the Flower Thrower logo are registered EU Trade Marks belonging to Pest Control Office Limited. We use these EU Trade Marks to denote the authenticity of our products and services. Only official products and services are allowed to use these EU Trade Marks, or our other trade marks. You are not permitted to use our EU Trade Marks without our express written approval. Any unauthorised reproduction may result in legal proceedings. This is clever. Ban ksy's legal team deserves recognition here for its problem-solving skills. By registering Girl with Balloon and Flower Thrower as logos subject to trade mark, if it so wishes, Pest Control Office as trade mark owner has the option of going after infringers alone. What it means is that, at least with respect to this imagery (among Ban ksy's most recognised and most-often reproduced without authorisation), there'd be no need to initiate any claim for breach of copyright. In other words, no need for the artist himself to get directly involved.
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What Music are you listening to at the moment ?, by met on Oct 25, 2019 9:37:29 GMT 1,
Cheers for posting.
I really enjoyed the video and song lyrics, though it did take me a short while to acclimatise to the voice of Richard Dawson.
It was also reassuring that my fears around the 54-second mark, that the song might go full-on Eye of the Tiger, did not materialise.
Cheers for posting. I really enjoyed the video and song lyrics, though it did take me a short while to acclimatise to the voice of Richard Dawson. It was also reassuring that my fears around the 54-second mark, that the song might go full-on Eye of the Tiger, did not materialise.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by met on Oct 24, 2019 14:36:08 GMT 1, Lets not say that art is subjective and then in the same breath tell nobokov heโs wrong for thinking its not art. If anything its a benefit to the forum to have people of varying opinions and I welcome the debate. Imagine how boring this place would be if we all just agreed with each other all the time By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.
Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art.
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Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste.
The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field.
The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience.
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Another way to illustrate the same point:
I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities.
But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality.
We can take the analogy a step further:
Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees.
You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker.
[When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJ Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, The Connor Brothers or Mr Brainwash.]
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In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here.
Lets not say that art is subjective and then in the same breath tell nobokov heโs wrong for thinking its not art. If anything its a benefit to the forum to have people of varying opinions and I welcome the debate. Imagine how boring this place would be if we all just agreed with each other all the time By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art. __________ Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste. The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field. The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience. __________ Another way to illustrate the same point:I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities. But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality. We can take the analogy a step further: Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees. You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker. [When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJ Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, The Connor Brothers or Mr Brainwash.]__________ In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here.
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Banksy Art FRAMED, by met on Oct 21, 2019 18:27:36 GMT 1, I did not buy it on eBay, and read carefully trough most of the forum pages on the Di-Faced Tenner. But still a risk to take. But I really like to look and feel of it, and doesn't bother me that it doesn't have a COA.
Thank you for posting a helpful close-up.
The level of detail visible in your Di-Faced Tenner corresponds to what I would expect a genuine note to have.
I did not buy it on eBay, and read carefully trough most of the forum pages on the Di-Faced Tenner. But still a risk to take. But I really like to look and feel of it, and doesn't bother me that it doesn't have a COA. Thank you for posting a helpful close-up. The level of detail visible in your Di-Faced Tenner corresponds to what I would expect a genuine note to have.
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For sale: "Spank the Monkey" signed by Invader, Fairey, by met on Oct 21, 2019 18:06:07 GMT 1, Limited Edition book from 2006 Baltic exhibition "Spank the Monkey", one the first major international exhibitions of contemporary urban art. Participating artists include: Banksy, Invader, Os Gemeos, Shepard Fairey, David Shrigley, Faile, Dzine, Takashi Murakami, Miss Van, Swoon, Dr. Lakra, Freaks Gallery, Groovisions, Kozyndan, Barry McGee, Ryan McGinness, Neasden Control Centre, Natasha Struchkova, Aya Takano, Ed Templeton, Yasumasa Yonehara, Chiho Aoshima, Box set limited to 200 copies. Comes with Folded poster by Shepard Fairey, Stickers, postcards by Invader, Dr. Lakra and other bits and pieces. Looking for โฌ300 + shipping, based in Ireland, but I'll ship worldwide Signatures I can identify:Invader Fairey Faile Miss Van Ryan McGuinness David Shrigley Dzine Kozyndan Natasha Struchkova Neasden Control Centre ... [...] [...]
Among your list of signatories, you can add Peter Doroshenko, the director of Baltic at the time.
Limited Edition book from 2006 Baltic exhibition "Spank the Monkey", one the first major international exhibitions of contemporary urban art. Participating artists include: Banksy, Invader, Os Gemeos, Shepard Fairey, David Shrigley, Faile, Dzine, Takashi Murakami, Miss Van, Swoon, Dr. Lakra, Freaks Gallery, Groovisions, Kozyndan, Barry McGee, Ryan McGinness, Neasden Control Centre, Natasha Struchkova, Aya Takano, Ed Templeton, Yasumasa Yonehara, Chiho Aoshima, Box set limited to 200 copies. Comes with Folded poster by Shepard Fairey, Stickers, postcards by Invader, Dr. Lakra and other bits and pieces. Looking for โฌ300 + shipping, based in Ireland, but I'll ship worldwide Signatures I can identify:Invader Fairey Faile Miss Van Ryan McGuinness David Shrigley Dzine Kozyndan Natasha Struchkova Neasden Control Centre ... [...] [...] Among your list of signatories, you can add Peter Doroshenko, the director of Baltic at the time.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by met on Oct 21, 2019 17:50:50 GMT 1, Why so much hatred for Andy? I've had dealings with him like many here and he's always been sound. If it's just over this mat, it seems a bit OTT. Long time member here has flipped two on ebay already for big money to line his own stinkin pockets and there's hardly a mention of it. Name and shame, happily call them a c**talso Pointless to name and he's already shamed himself.
There may well be other grounds for holding back. But of the two you've cited, I am unclear about the reasoning for the first, and would qualify the second.
1. Pointless to name
Why so?
To name someone who's taken part in what could be deemed repellent behaviour โ like profiteering off the back of a CIC (community interest company) project โ is to shine a light on them.
When people have a financial interest in behaving dishonourably, yet nevertheless refrain from doing so, it's typically for one of two principal reasons. Either:
(i) they are honourable; or
(ii) they dread the consequences (including reputational damage) of being seen to act dishonourably.
For those who find themselves in group (ii), the risk of being openly accused can therefore serve as an effective deterrent.
Now, one of your objectives might be to discourage the kind of behaviour you've described above. If that is the case, then there is a logic to naming individual transgressors.
Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman. โ Louis Brandeis
2. he's already shamed himself
No disagreement here.
However, in the context of "name and shame", the verb "shame" refers less to an individual's shameful behaviour than to the penalty it should incur.
That penalty is a social one โ shaming. And it's the public nature of shaming which is crucial.
If everyone were kept ignorant about the identity of those who behaved poorly, then there'd be no real incentive for transgressors to stop. What it would also say to others who lack scruples is that they too can do the same, without fear of scrutiny โ and without fear of being held publicly accountable.
Such a message would be unfortunate, in my view.
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Presumably, you were referring to the eBayer, trainerhype, an account I wasn't familiar with:
feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=trainerhype
I don't know who trainerhype is on this message board.
But based on their completed eBay sales, it doesn't seem unfair to suggest they appear unburdened by decency.
www.ebay.co.uk/sch/trainerhype/m.html?LH_Complete=1
Why so much hatred for Andy? I've had dealings with him like many here and he's always been sound. If it's just over this mat, it seems a bit OTT. Long time member here has flipped two on ebay already for big money to line his own stinkin pockets and there's hardly a mention of it. Name and shame, happily call them a c**talso Pointless to name and he's already shamed himself. There may well be other grounds for holding back. But of the two you've cited, I am unclear about the reasoning for the first, and would qualify the second. 1. Pointless to nameWhy so? To name someone who's taken part in what could be deemed repellent behaviour โ like profiteering off the back of a CIC (community interest company) project โ is to shine a light on them. When people have a financial interest in behaving dishonourably, yet nevertheless refrain from doing so, it's typically for one of two principal reasons. Either: (i) they are honourable; or (ii) they dread the consequences (including reputational damage) of being seen to act dishonourably. For those who find themselves in group (ii), the risk of being openly accused can therefore serve as an effective deterrent. Now, one of your objectives might be to discourage the kind of behaviour you've described above. If that is the case, then there is a logic to naming individual transgressors. Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman. โ Louis Brandeis 2. he's already shamed himselfNo disagreement here. However, in the context of "name and shame", the verb "shame" refers less to an individual's shameful behaviour than to the penalty it should incur. That penalty is a social one โ shaming. And it's the public nature of shaming which is crucial. If everyone were kept ignorant about the identity of those who behaved poorly, then there'd be no real incentive for transgressors to stop. What it would also say to others who lack scruples is that they too can do the same, without fear of scrutiny โ and without fear of being held publicly accountable. Such a message would be unfortunate, in my view. __________ Presumably, you were referring to the eB ayer, trainerhype, an account I wasn't familiar with: feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=trainerhypeI don't know who trainerhype is on this message board. But based on their completed eB ay sales, it doesn't seem unfair to suggest they appear unburdened by decency. www.ebay.co.uk/sch/trainerhype/m.html?LH_Complete=1
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2001 Peace is Tough Exhibition Glasgow (lost Banksy ? #1), by met on Oct 18, 2019 15:52:52 GMT 1, question not about the picture, but the guinness advert there was a leftfield remix of phat planet done featuring samples from the advert (tick follows tock) was played on pete tong, but was a bootleg mix been trying to get an mp3 of it for absolutely ages - if anyone out there has one they wouldn't mind sharing i'd be very happy While it may not be what you're after, here's a 2012 bootleg remix of Phat Planet by InsideInfo, with a couple of samples from the Guinness ad, Surfer:
There's another bootleg I've read about, but haven't been able to find.
It's by Chris Lake (previously praised by Tong), apparently done under the alias Cristophe D'Abuc in 2002:
streamkat.com/artists/chris-lake/
question not about the picture, but the guinness advert there was a leftfield remix of phat planet done featuring samples from the advert (tick follows tock) was played on pete tong, but was a bootleg mix been trying to get an mp3 of it for absolutely ages - if anyone out there has one they wouldn't mind sharing i'd be very happy While it may not be what you're after, here's a 2012 bootleg remix of Phat Planet by InsideInfo, with a couple of samples from the Guinness ad, Surfer: There's another bootleg I've read about, but haven't been able to find. It's by Chris Lake (previously praised by Tong), apparently done under the alias Cristophe D'Abuc in 2002: streamkat.com/artists/chris-lake/
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Successful Cover Songs, by met on Oct 18, 2019 14:06:22 GMT 1, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Death
"O Death", also known as "O, Death", "Oh Death" and "Conversations with Death", is a traditional American folk song. In 2004, the Journal of Folklore Research asserted that "O, Death" is Lloyd Chandler's song "A Conversation with Death", which Chandler performed in the 1920s while preaching in Appalachia. [...]
Jen Titus - O Death (2010) Promo song for Supernatural (Season 5, 2010) โ a television series I'd not previously heard of. - uploaded by Scarlet Dawn
Jen Titus - O Death (2010) Well-executed scene from Supernatural ('Two Minutes to Midnight', Season 5; Episode 21, 2010) - uploaded by Mango Man
Ralph Stanley - O Death (with key note by David Rawlings) (Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, Tennessee, 24 May 2000, from the concert film, Down from the Mountain) Dr. Stanley also sung the version featured in the soundtrack for O Brother, Where Art Thou? - uploaded by thewolf914
Lloyd Chandler - A Conversation With Death (1965) From High Atmosphere: Ballads and banjo tunes from Virginia and North Carolina, collected by John Cohen in November of 1965 (released in 1975; re-released in 1995) - uploaded by alzo61
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Death"O Death", also known as "O, Death", "Oh Death" and "Conversations with Death", is a traditional American folk song. In 2004, the Journal of Folklore Research asserted that "O, Death" is Lloyd Chandler's song "A Conversation with Death", which Chandler performed in the 1920s while preaching in Appalachia. [...]Jen Titus - O Death (2010) Promo song for Supernatural (Season 5, 2010) โ a television series I'd not previously heard of.- uploaded by Scarlet DawnJen Titus - O Death (2010) Well-executed scene from Supernatural ('Two Minutes to Midnight', Season 5; Episode 21, 2010)- uploaded by Mango ManRalph Stanley - O Death (with key note by David Rawlings) (Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, Tennessee, 24 May 2000, from the concert film, Down from the Mountain) Dr. Stanley also sung the version featured in the soundtrack for O Brother, Where Art Thou? - uploaded by thewolf914Lloyd Chandler - A Conversation With Death (1965) From High Atmosphere: Ballads and banjo tunes from Virginia and North Carolina, collected by John Cohen in November of 1965 (released in 1975; re-released in 1995)- uploaded by alzo61
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Banksy ยฃ10 โข Di-Faced Tenner, by met on Oct 18, 2019 9:09:36 GMT 1, Di-Faced Tenner Offset lithograph on paper 3 ร 5 3/4 in 7.6 ร 14.6 cm Excellent condition Signed Happy to take offers via PM
Acquired from a gallery with COA. Thanks for your interest
Ok thank you, I actually do not have a pest control COA but a gallery COA.
Thank you for your message, it is not from Lazarides not Pictures on walls either but a small street art gallery in London.
Haha... Sometime you guys can be harsh on the uninitiated but it does make me laugh... Keep it up... I don't know who is uninitiated but I surely know who is uneducated ! So congrats on most of you for being vulgar stupid cheap prints collectors ! Keep it as it is that's were you belong ! Cheers
Arthuro started the sales thread. Astbury just quoted him. He's just at the top, because Arthuro deleted his fake Tenner.... Thanks for your input, only issue is that you guys don't recognise a real from a fake banksy signature and you still believe that you are "initiated". On top of that most of the things you posted on here are bad weak tasteless cheap sh*ts so stay in your lane and sh*t the f*ck up.
I would not attempt to mislead any forum member, I am a long time member and have numerous other works for sale and have sold some and never had any issue with authenticity until now with this. So I have indeed cancelled the sale facing and the rage and bullies on here, and I am now trying to contact the seller and conduct due diligences about this tenner. I apologise for loosing my temper but this forum is quite harsh and I have not at all appreciated the behavior of many members which I won't further reply to.
With close to 18 months having passed, I was curious about the outcome of the due diligence on your tenner.
Did you conclude it to be genuine, or fake?
If the latter, were you at least refunded by the gallery that sold you this note with the certificate confirming its authenticity?
Di-Faced Tenner Offset lithograph on paper 3 ร 5 3/4 in 7.6 ร 14.6 cm Excellent condition Signed Happy to take offers via PM Acquired from a gallery with COA. Thanks for your interest Ok thank you, I actually do not have a pest control COA but a gallery COA. Thank you for your message, it is not from Lazarides not Pictures on walls either but a small street art gallery in London. Haha... Sometime you guys can be harsh on the uninitiated but it does make me laugh... Keep it up... I don't know who is uninitiated but I surely know who is uneducated ! So congrats on most of you for being vulgar stupid cheap prints collectors ! Keep it as it is that's were you belong ! Cheers Arthuro started the sales thread. Astbury just quoted him. He's just at the top, because Arthuro deleted his fake Tenner.... Thanks for your input, only issue is that you guys don't recognise a real from a fake banksy signature and you still believe that you are "initiated". On top of that most of the things you posted on here are bad weak tasteless cheap sh*ts so stay in your lane and sh*t the f*ck up. I would not attempt to mislead any forum member, I am a long time member and have numerous other works for sale and have sold some and never had any issue with authenticity until now with this. So I have indeed cancelled the sale facing and the rage and bullies on here, and I am now trying to contact the seller and conduct due diligences about this tenner. I apologise for loosing my temper but this forum is quite harsh and I have not at all appreciated the behavior of many members which I won't further reply to. With close to 18 months having passed, I was curious about the outcome of the due diligence on your tenner. Did you conclude it to be genuine, or fake? If the latter, were you at least refunded by the gallery that sold you this note with the certificate confirming its authenticity?
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