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Audap Mirabaud, France - Help arranging delivery from France, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 4, 2017 7:35:13 GMT 1, Well i m in Paris so if I can help let me know
Well i m in Paris so if I can help let me know
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Peter Doig, Canoe (Island), 2000. Framed, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 2, 2017 21:14:49 GMT 1, I usually don't comment on prices but people got to stop saying crap like that. Since June 2016, 8 went up at auction. 4 went unsold. The last one didn't sell a week ago at Bonham's with an estimate of ยฃ1.8/2.2k. The 4 that sold sold around ยฃ2k hammer (from ยฃ1.9 to 2.6) except for one at Dorotheum in Vienna (known for inflated prices) which sold for ยฃ5k. So as much as I don't find the ยฃ3.5k ask that scandalous, people should refrain to hype their prints especially one like that which comes up on the market fairly often. Gallery prices don't make market vaue. Ps : I didnt check the condition report at Bonham's so can't attest as to why that print didn't sell (twice). Same one in October didnt sell at 2.5/3.5. According to the website I think it may have actually sold. Possibly after the auction? www.bonhams.com/auctions/24037/lot/216/Anyway saying that they are available from source at ยฃ6.5k is completely misleading. These were released in 2000, using tiered pricing, once the early tiers sold out they have sat on their site at the ยฃ6.5k price for almost 17 years! So that price has obviously been accepted as totally inflated.
Which is the only reason I commented ๐
I usually don't comment on prices but people got to stop saying crap like that. Since June 2016, 8 went up at auction. 4 went unsold. The last one didn't sell a week ago at Bonham's with an estimate of ยฃ1.8/2.2k. The 4 that sold sold around ยฃ2k hammer (from ยฃ1.9 to 2.6) except for one at Dorotheum in Vienna (known for inflated prices) which sold for ยฃ5k. So as much as I don't find the ยฃ3.5k ask that scandalous, people should refrain to hype their prints especially one like that which comes up on the market fairly often. Gallery prices don't make market vaue. Ps : I didnt check the condition report at Bonham's so can't attest as to why that print didn't sell (twice). Same one in October didnt sell at 2.5/3.5. According to the website I think it may have actually sold. Possibly after the auction? www.bonhams.com/auctions/24037/lot/216/Anyway saying that they are available from source at ยฃ6.5k is completely misleading. These were released in 2000, using tiered pricing, once the early tiers sold out they have sat on their site at the ยฃ6.5k price for almost 17 years! So that price has obviously been accepted as totally inflated. Which is the only reason I commented ๐
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Peter Doig, Canoe (Island), 2000. Framed, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 2, 2017 10:39:18 GMT 1, It's 6.5K at source - counter editions on the website. So not a bad price.
I usually don't comment on prices but people got to stop saying crap like that.
Since June 2016, 8 went up at auction. 3 went unsold. The last one at Bonham's sold for ยฃ2k including the premium with an estimate of ยฃ1.8/2.2k. The 4 other that sold sold around ยฃ2k hammer (from ยฃ1.9 to 2.6) except for one at Dorotheum in Vienna (known for inflated prices) which sold for ยฃ5k.
So as much as I don't find the ยฃ3.5k ask that scandalous, people should refrain to hype their prints especially one like that which comes up on the market fairly often. Gallery prices don't make market vaue.
Ps : The bonhams print probably sold after sale because it shows everywhere mot to have been sold but I didn't check the condition report at Bonham's so can't attest as to why that print sold at this price. Same one in October didnt sell at 2.5/3.5.
It's 6.5K at source - counter editions on the website. So not a bad price. I usually don't comment on prices but people got to stop saying crap like that. Since June 2016, 8 went up at auction. 3 went unsold. The last one at Bonham's sold for ยฃ2k including the premium with an estimate of ยฃ1.8/2.2k. The 4 other that sold sold around ยฃ2k hammer (from ยฃ1.9 to 2.6) except for one at Dorotheum in Vienna (known for inflated prices) which sold for ยฃ5k. So as much as I don't find the ยฃ3.5k ask that scandalous, people should refrain to hype their prints especially one like that which comes up on the market fairly often. Gallery prices don't make market vaue. Ps : The bonhams print probably sold after sale because it shows everywhere mot to have been sold but I didn't check the condition report at Bonham's so can't attest as to why that print sold at this price. Same one in October didnt sell at 2.5/3.5.
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JR - Ladj Ly By, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 31, 2017 21:54:44 GMT 1, I use to have the found LA edition and I hve a Tate modern on the wall and i saw the poster one. It s pretty good. I would even rank it highly in term of quality that the found LA edition. If I had to splash the money today I would either go for the Tate or the social animal edition. Totally higher quality. But just my 2 cents
I use to have the found LA edition and I hve a Tate modern on the wall and i saw the poster one. It s pretty good. I would even rank it highly in term of quality that the found LA edition. If I had to splash the money today I would either go for the Tate or the social animal edition. Totally higher quality. But just my 2 cents
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Katrin Fridriks ๐ฎ๐ธ Reykjavรญk, Iceland โข Abstract Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 31, 2017 11:44:11 GMT 1, If anyone has a noble awakening shoot me a PM thanks!
If anyone has a noble awakening shoot me a PM thanks!
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David Choe, Prints, Originals, Art Wanted, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 31, 2017 11:23:29 GMT 1, Anyone has a vintage jizz available. Ed or skate deck!
Gited one a few years back and still looking for one
Thanks
Anyone has a vintage jizz available. Ed or skate deck!
Gited one a few years back and still looking for one
Thanks
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Antony Micallef Print, Canvas, WANTED, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 30, 2017 15:52:48 GMT 1, A friend of mine in Paris have a self portsit charcoal on paper if anyone is interested. i can ask details
A friend of mine in Paris have a self portsit charcoal on paper if anyone is interested. i can ask details
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Kaws Print, Figure, Canvas, WANTED, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 30, 2017 13:26:49 GMT 1, I m looking for the set of the open moma edition (separate or complete) and the plush toys (BFF and Companion).
I m looking for the set of the open moma edition (separate or complete) and the plush toys (BFF and Companion).
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Steve Powers ๐บ๐ธ ESPO โข New York Street Art โข New Release, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 15, 2017 21:54:11 GMT 1, I'm also looking for one (original black edition or small black or bl). Ex fiance took off with it. So if anyone has one (not too keen on the green). pm me!
I'm also looking for one (original black edition or small black or bl). Ex fiance took off with it. So if anyone has one (not too keen on the green). pm me!
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Help Needed, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 2, 2016 13:03:06 GMT 1, Sorry guys I was away for a few weeks but thanks for the pointers. It really sucks as I purchased most of those at source but at the end of the day it's just art.
Sorry guys I was away for a few weeks but thanks for the pointers. It really sucks as I purchased most of those at source but at the end of the day it's just art.
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Help Needed, by Brushstrokes 75 on Sept 5, 2016 22:32:31 GMT 1, Hey guys,
I haven t been around for a while and this might be in the wrong section (i m sure Dan will move it if need be).
Anyhow, I lent some pieces for a show (which I will not name) and the transporter (which I will not name either). The transporter ended up destroying my pieces as they allegedly went undelivered and they couldn t reach me or the sender.
Trying to get a sense of a replacement value for those before I talk to the show s curator. Thanks all
Faile Launch Tonight Ed 100 2010
JR Favela Tree 09
Blu Rennes Handfinished
Hey guys, I haven t been around for a while and this might be in the wrong section (i m sure Dan will move it if need be). Anyhow, I lent some pieces for a show (which I will not name) and the transporter (which I will not name either). The transporter ended up destroying my pieces as they allegedly went undelivered and they couldn t reach me or the sender. Trying to get a sense of a replacement value for those before I talk to the show s curator. Thanks all Faile Launch Tonight Ed 100 2010 JR Favela Tree 09 Blu Rennes Handfinished
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Anyone heading down to Vegas for Life is Beautiful?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 19, 2014 15:45:49 GMT 1, I have 2 3 days passes for sale if anyone is interested.
I have 2 3 days passes for sale if anyone is interested.
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New Nick Walker, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 17, 2014 18:29:52 GMT 1, It was $800 + tax i think. 25 lottery & 25 available there.
The white i think was $400 edition of 100
It was $800 + tax i think. 25 lottery & 25 available there.
The white i think was $400 edition of 100
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New Nick Walker, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 17, 2014 13:45:10 GMT 1, Went to the show last night, it was pretty cool (if you take aside the reharshing commentaries, there are some nice pieces there). and the new prints actually dont look bad in the flesh. The Vandalism print is kinda of a classic.
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Anyone heading down to Vegas for Life is Beautiful?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 15, 2014 7:14:39 GMT 1, I might have 2 extra tickets for sale if anyone is interested
I might have 2 extra tickets for sale if anyone is interested
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Anyone heading down to Vegas for Life is Beautiful?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 14, 2014 13:34:27 GMT 1, I'll be in Vegas from the 23rd til the 27th if anyone is around
I'll be in Vegas from the 23rd til the 27th if anyone is around
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Anyone heading down to Vegas for Life is Beautiful?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 14, 2014 1:24:49 GMT 1, Nice line up.
Anyone will be in Vegas?
Nice line up.
Anyone will be in Vegas?
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Clearing Sale, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 13, 2014 19:52:20 GMT 1, Added some photos & dropped some prices.
Leaving on Thursday so will need to sell before then or they'll stay in the portfolio for the time being.
Might consider letting this one go.
Sickboy Inside my head :
Added some photos & dropped some prices. Leaving on Thursday so will need to sell before then or they'll stay in the portfolio for the time being. Might consider letting this one go. Sickboy Inside my head :
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For Sale: Jago, David Flores, Dean McDowell, Chueh**new pics, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 10, 2014 22:30:10 GMT 1, damn. that's an insane piece! What are the dims?
It was a commission 40 x 80 in
damn. that's an insane piece! What are the dims? It was a commission 40 x 80 in
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For Sale: Jago, David Flores, Dean McDowell, Chueh**new pics, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 10, 2014 13:52:15 GMT 1, Really nice Jago indeed. I like the simple white framing as well.
Really nice Jago indeed. I like the simple white framing as well.
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Clearing Sale, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 10, 2014 13:10:59 GMT 1, @ Laurent : PMs answered.
Quick bump. Taking offers before next wednesday
@ Laurent : PMs answered.
Quick bump. Taking offers before next wednesday
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Phillips Art Auctions โข New York, Hong Kong & London, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 6, 2014 13:12:00 GMT 1, Sorry my bad. When Rosh mentionned the other one. I thought he was mentionning the one with the axe.
Sorry my bad. When Rosh mentionned the other one. I thought he was mentionning the one with the axe.
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Conor Harrington & Dran original., by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 5, 2014 14:02:07 GMT 1, Nice framing on the dran dom!
Nice framing on the dran dom!
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Phillips Art Auctions โข New York, Hong Kong & London, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 5, 2014 13:56:13 GMT 1, It was back in 2008.
Est was $200/$300k. Sold for $550K hammer ($605k with the fees). I think in ยฃ, that's roughly 280k hammer, 308 with fees.
It was back in 2008.
Est was $200/$300k. Sold for $550K hammer ($605k with the fees). I think in ยฃ, that's roughly 280k hammer, 308 with fees.
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Clearing Sale, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 5, 2014 9:03:34 GMT 1, @ Phildart : If you PMed me, I didn't receive anything!
@ Phildart : If you PMed me, I didn't receive anything!
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 4, 2014 9:36:38 GMT 1, Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical. I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any. I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet. Yes this is true, however there are also market forces at play which is why generally sales are published or at least published while occurring. When these deals are done behind closed doors it just leaves a lot of room for shady activities and fictitious price inflation. Regarding the expensive and rare aspect, you are correct, then people should say PM for price. If you want an auction then it should be done in an open manner so people know that the bidding is real, and thus not allowing offers being made up by the seller, in order to jack up a price. I don't wanna be mean here but you need a reality check on this.
It's art everything is done privately. At auction, you don't know who is buying. Auction houses have the right to bid up until the reserve price. So yeah they are fictiously creating interest for people to bid.
God knows if they are never some frauds regarding absentee bids.
On top of that, you can't imagine the way the market is totally manipulated by dealers & high end collectors. They want to maintain the value of their prior investments so they shill bid their artist. Making you think they are more valuable than what you think.
On another note, I think offering stuff here has become so complicated that it might just be easier to just put s***t on ebay.
Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical. I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any. I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet. Yes this is true, however there are also market forces at play which is why generally sales are published or at least published while occurring. When these deals are done behind closed doors it just leaves a lot of room for shady activities and fictitious price inflation. Regarding the expensive and rare aspect, you are correct, then people should say PM for price. If you want an auction then it should be done in an open manner so people know that the bidding is real, and thus not allowing offers being made up by the seller, in order to jack up a price. I don't wanna be mean here but you need a reality check on this. It's art everything is done privately. At auction, you don't know who is buying. Auction houses have the right to bid up until the reserve price. So yeah they are fictiously creating interest for people to bid. God knows if they are never some frauds regarding absentee bids. On top of that, you can't imagine the way the market is totally manipulated by dealers & high end collectors. They want to maintain the value of their prior investments so they shill bid their artist. Making you think they are more valuable than what you think. On another note, I think offering stuff here has become so complicated that it might just be easier to just put s***t on ebay.
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CAN WE INSTATE NEW RULES FOR SELLING???, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 4, 2014 1:16:50 GMT 1, Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life. Touche, I guess for me it is more about the fact that I come here for information about everything including pricing (In order to buy, not sell. I have yet to sell a print anywhere), and feel that whenever there is a so called sale on a no price listed thread I have a hard time with it because allows for way too many instances where a price can be inflated during the transaction by the seller, or some sort of collusion where a transaction can occur at price A, and then can be said to have been sold for A+$$$ in order to increase the perceived value by other forum members, in order to make the buyer feel as though their piece is now worth more than what was paid. Just my feelings here, and my feelings on how to get rid of some of the REAL NEGATIVITY I see brewing on here recently. S Isn't that the basics of the Contemporary art market (and art market in general)? Everything is fixed and manipulated until it becomes accepted. Makes you eager to buy printed paper for ยฃ20k...
There's always gonna be people complaining.
You do not have to buy anything listed on here. If you're not happy with the price or with the way people are proceeding, don't buy & move on.
If you list a price, people will either try to lowball you or take advantage of your pricing or make fun of your unrealistic price requests.
If you don't, people think you're manipulating everything.
How many transaction I had failed through because people backed out or didn't have the cash or changed their mind? etc etc
Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical.
I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any.
I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet.
Or, you could just decide how much you're comfortable paying, and only pay that amount. If you don't like the person saying there's another offer, tell them to sell to that person and move on with your life. Touche, I guess for me it is more about the fact that I come here for information about everything including pricing (In order to buy, not sell. I have yet to sell a print anywhere), and feel that whenever there is a so called sale on a no price listed thread I have a hard time with it because allows for way too many instances where a price can be inflated during the transaction by the seller, or some sort of collusion where a transaction can occur at price A, and then can be said to have been sold for A+$$$ in order to increase the perceived value by other forum members, in order to make the buyer feel as though their piece is now worth more than what was paid. Just my feelings here, and my feelings on how to get rid of some of the REAL NEGATIVITY I see brewing on here recently. S Isn't that the basics of the Contemporary art market (and art market in general)? Everything is fixed and manipulated until it becomes accepted. Makes you eager to buy printed paper for ยฃ20k... There's always gonna be people complaining. You do not have to buy anything listed on here. If you're not happy with the price or with the way people are proceeding, don't buy & move on. If you list a price, people will either try to lowball you or take advantage of your pricing or make fun of your unrealistic price requests. If you don't, people think you're manipulating everything. How many transaction I had failed through because people backed out or didn't have the cash or changed their mind? etc etc Buyers want to buy at the lowest price & sellers want the most they can get it's logical. I'm with coach. let people decide what they want to do. We all know that adding prices & photos get you more interest than not listing any. I'll also add that people are not exchanging tomatoes here & there are some pieces that are ever unique or rare or expensive so they might not want their pieces totally publicized all over the internet.
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dran 100j for sale, by Brushstrokes 75 on Oct 3, 2014 23:32:16 GMT 1, I need to check. Obviously, they're not in the folder they were supposed to be. Forgot what I said until I find them.
I need to check. Obviously, they're not in the folder they were supposed to be. Forgot what I said until I find them.
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