Fukin hell he was at the show new it was him

Nope, Health and Safety have put a stop to this

Thats a shame. Maybe a UK show then?.

Release 500 prints.

100 signed at 8,000 UK.

400 at 3500 UK.

Just about right to put the low life cheap flippers off and seems to be market value.

Look at the OS sale - even at the crazy price they charged people bought to sell on - but hasn't really worked as they're hard to shift.

Banksy is slightly different of course but the flip movement would be minimal.

Wouldn't stop everything but there's a better chance it would. I know not everyone could afford one - but sorry that's life, not everyone can afford a Porsche.

If it's cheap - it'll be flipped like crazy. It's that simple.

If it's market price with a 10% premium - it'll still be flipped but a lot less.

If you want an affordable banksy release - something less than 1000UK it'll be the most flipped thing in history.

but if it was a timed edition, why would there be a market for flippers?  everyone who wanted one could get one

Then you might as well release an unlimited poster.


What do you mean by a timed edition? Released slowly?

Could be release one a day for two years - if it's cheap it's going to be flipped to market value. Simple.

yes true.  but for people that are fans at that moment, everyone gets a print.  it's not perfect but think at this point, it would be the only way he could release a print

Correct it's not practicable.

A banksy unsigned is worth 2500uk minimum - so sell a new print at 3500 and it will be flipped on a very small scale.

Yes it's expensive - but that's his price - that's life.

Otherwise you can't complain about flipping.

Look at whatson - half the ballet print is on eBay for 700US. So sell them at 800 and it won't be flipped.

Pretty simple really.

The unfortunate reality is that is effectively a no win situation. I like to think that Banksy has historically released prints at the prices he (and POW) chose because he wanted to make his art accessible to regular folk.

Here's the rub:

- If he releases a regular sized edition at the usual pricing, there will be a substantial amount of flipping as usual, and the logistics of the release will be horrible.

- If he releases a regular sized edition at market value, then regular folk will be priced out, and they'll be reserved for only the wealthy. I don't think he wants that.

- If he releases an enormous edition at a lower price, then it's a recipe for a bit of a headache one way or another - RSI if he signs them all... scores of people attempting to flip them anyway (possibly getting their fingers burned in the process)... A risk of flooding the market and denting secondary market prices, which may in turn affect the pricing he can achieve for originals - which pay the bills (remember what happened to the market prices for Micallef's work after he released Impure Idols and GIWTBB)

On top of all that, the last several Banksy print releases have been a big logistical headache for POW: Beefed up website... Crashed anyway. Choose your weapon release in person - marred by a bunch of thugs, who forced their way to the front etc etc.

I can kind of understand why it's an easier life to focus elsewhere (like better out than in etc).

You're such a pessimist Wiz, I believe Banksy loves all his print owners equally like he would his own children and therefore genuinely cares about secondary market prices 

LOL, your right Andy, not had me coffee yet. Im such a misery first thing.

I believe banksy's philosophy is (or at least was when prints were being released) to release prints at a price that made them more accessible. And that outweighed the risk/inevitability that they will get flipped. I like that. Lesser of two evils init?