laurentbaboo
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by laurentbaboo on Mar 24, 2016 21:36:47 GMT 1, ... what have the Romans ever done for us ...
Hadrian's Wall!
... what have the Romans ever done for us ... Hadrian's Wall!
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kapow
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by kapow on Mar 24, 2016 22:26:27 GMT 1, As has been mentioned several times, we will need to renegotiate our relationship with Europe should we leave. My worry is that irrespective of what deal we eventually get, at this point in time there is no way of knowing whether the deal will leave us in a better position or a worse one. So there is a big risk in leaving, and no risk in staying. That's why I'll be voting to stay.
As has been mentioned several times, we will need to renegotiate our relationship with Europe should we leave. My worry is that irrespective of what deal we eventually get, at this point in time there is no way of knowing whether the deal will leave us in a better position or a worse one. So there is a big risk in leaving, and no risk in staying. That's why I'll be voting to stay.
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markent
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by markent on Mar 24, 2016 22:28:28 GMT 1, ... what have the Romans ever done for us ... Hadrian's Wall!
Yes but apart from Adrian's Wall, the roads and the sewerage system, what have the Romans ever done for us?
... what have the Romans ever done for us ... Hadrian's Wall! Yes but apart from Adrian's Wall, the roads and the sewerage system, what have the Romans ever done for us?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Mar 24, 2016 22:35:50 GMT 1, ... don't forget the aquaducts
... don't forget the aquaducts
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markent
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by markent on Mar 24, 2016 22:36:10 GMT 1, Germany would make sure there are no restrictions on the UK's export, as we export 10% to them and import 15% from them.
Germany would make sure there are no restrictions on the UK's export, as we export 10% to them and import 15% from them.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Mar 24, 2016 22:40:12 GMT 1, ... quite apt really ...
All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?
Xerxes: Brought peace!
... quite apt really ...
All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?
Xerxes: Brought peace!
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markent
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by markent on Mar 24, 2016 22:50:25 GMT 1, Wine, we'd miss that!!
Wine, we'd miss that!!
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laurentbaboo
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by laurentbaboo on Mar 24, 2016 22:58:43 GMT 1,
True! They planted the first vines! And the results only comes now with rewards for sparkling wine! So don't say the romans never did anything for you!
True! They planted the first vines! And the results only comes now with rewards for sparkling wine! So don't say the romans never did anything for you!
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chads007
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Mar 24, 2016 23:01:17 GMT 1, It's mainly little Englander types (daily mail readers) who I've spoken to who want out. I can't vote on any side that farage /ukip stand on.
It's mainly little Englander types (daily mail readers) who I've spoken to who want out. I can't vote on any side that farage /ukip stand on.
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markent
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by markent on Mar 24, 2016 23:14:44 GMT 1, It's mainly little Englander types (daily mail readers) who I've spoken to who want out. I can't vote on any side that farage /ukip stand on.
So your not making your own impartial decision, your just voting against Farage/UKIP. Seems a little bit blinkered and a waste of a vote.
It's mainly little Englander types (daily mail readers) who I've spoken to who want out. I can't vote on any side that farage /ukip stand on. So your not making your own impartial decision, your just voting against Farage/UKIP. Seems a little bit blinkered and a waste of a vote.
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chads007
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Mar 24, 2016 23:16:20 GMT 1, It's mainly little Englander types (daily mail readers) who I've spoken to who want out. I can't vote on any side that farage /ukip stand on. So your not making your own impartial decision, your just voting against Farage/UKIP. Seems a little bit blinkered and a waste of a vote.
My decision is my own decision, and it just happens to be at odds with the generalist right wing propaganda.
It's mainly little Englander types (daily mail readers) who I've spoken to who want out. I can't vote on any side that farage /ukip stand on. So your not making your own impartial decision, your just voting against Farage/UKIP. Seems a little bit blinkered and a waste of a vote. My decision is my own decision, and it just happens to be at odds with the generalist right wing propaganda.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 23:22:25 GMT 1, I'm an outie
I would just like to hear the facts form a completely non biased view, in simple terms (lots of pictures please) because right now I want to be an outie mainly to feel a bit of anarchy in my veins, the great unknown, no one will starve because of it, fuck it, lets see what happens kind of emotion?
I dont want to hear all the shit about we wont get electric at the right price ( we haven't had it at the right price for years), I hate all the fear bullshit, we wont be able to buy BMW cars anymore, or Porsches, and fuck me all the cheese exporters will boycot us all forever
I'm an outie
I would just like to hear the facts form a completely non biased view, in simple terms (lots of pictures please) because right now I want to be an outie mainly to feel a bit of anarchy in my veins, the great unknown, no one will starve because of it, fuck it, lets see what happens kind of emotion?
I dont want to hear all the shit about we wont get electric at the right price ( we haven't had it at the right price for years), I hate all the fear bullshit, we wont be able to buy BMW cars anymore, or Porsches, and fuck me all the cheese exporters will boycot us all forever
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Poster Bob on Mar 24, 2016 23:36:30 GMT 1, And as has been mentioned there IS NO RENEGOTIATION. If you vote to leave the EU will dictate the terms required to gain access to the free market.
As has been mentioned several times, we will need to renegotiate our relationship with Europe should we leave. My worry is that irrespective of what deal we eventually get, at this point in time there is no way of knowing whether the deal will leave us in a better position or a worse one. So there is a big risk in leaving, and no risk in staying.ย That's why I'll be voting to stay.
And as has been mentioned there IS NO RENEGOTIATION. If you vote to leave the EU will dictate the terms required to gain access to the free market. As has been mentioned several times, we will need to renegotiate our relationship with Europe should we leave. My worry is that irrespective of what deal we eventually get, at this point in time there is no way of knowing whether the deal will leave us in a better position or a worse one. So there is a big risk in leaving, and no risk in staying.ย That's why I'll be voting to stay.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Mar 24, 2016 23:40:59 GMT 1, I'm an outie ย I would just like to hear the facts form a completely non biased view, in simple terms (lots of pictures please) because right now I want to be an outie mainly to feel a bit of anarchy in my veins, the great unknown, no one will starve because of it, f**k it, lets see what happens kind of emotion? I dont want to hear all the s**t about we wont get electric at the right price ( we haven't had it at the right price for years), ย I hate all the fear bulls**t, we wont be able to buy BMW cars anymore, or Porsches, and f**k me all the cheese exporters will boycot us all forever
No one will starve. But I genuinely believe that there will be huge job losses.
I'm an outie ย I would just like to hear the facts form a completely non biased view, in simple terms (lots of pictures please) because right now I want to be an outie mainly to feel a bit of anarchy in my veins, the great unknown, no one will starve because of it, f**k it, lets see what happens kind of emotion? I dont want to hear all the s**t about we wont get electric at the right price ( we haven't had it at the right price for years), ย I hate all the fear bulls**t, we wont be able to buy BMW cars anymore, or Porsches, and f**k me all the cheese exporters will boycot us all forever No one will starve. But I genuinely believe that there will be huge job losses.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by source on Mar 24, 2016 23:57:18 GMT 1, I work in the labour market and am privileged to be party to a great deal of information. Most people will follow some rhetoric or other. In reality I firmly believe we should vote out. The romantic notion of better together is rubbish in my view. UK leads the way on so many things. We don't need to follow...we can lead.
I work in the labour market and am privileged to be party to a great deal of information. Most people will follow some rhetoric or other. In reality I firmly believe we should vote out. The romantic notion of better together is rubbish in my view. UK leads the way on so many things. We don't need to follow...we can lead.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by source on Mar 25, 2016 0:00:04 GMT 1, Has no-one here watched zeitgeist?! Closer union means less freedom.
Has no-one here watched zeitgeist?! Closer union means less freedom.
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damo
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by damo on Mar 25, 2016 0:13:24 GMT 1, What a fascinating spread of views and opinions. I've withheld my views on this to date beyond close friends and family because A) not sure if anyone should care what I think on the subject, B) there are smart and intelligent people I respect (and who's opinions on economics and security I should give full consideration for) on both sides of the debate, and, C) there are many I don't respect who I seem to agree with on this particular issue. So in summary I'm still quite confused and whilst natural inclination is to stay, I may change....
One thing I don't see discussed very often though is the wider consequence for everyone else. I spend a lot of time in Scotland and was there for the referendum. At the time I believed in the 'better together' argument. I genuinely did, I genuinely do. Is it perfect? No. But when has division ever been a better alternative? If I bought into those theories then, I have to surely apply them to this question. I like communities and I like to participate in large and active ones, why would I want to vote for a smaller one?
The relevance to me is all this focus on the UK out of the EU, but surely that also risks the Union itself (Scotland in particular). And what happens to the EU with us gone? Will others vote to leave. Does Spain finally split. I just see change for the sake of change, and I get that not everyone is happy with their lot, but turn on the news and look at the very real challenges that so many others are facing day in day out. For what it's worth I think we've had a pretty good 50 years.
I don't want to have every country to have to renegotiate on their own terms, have you seen how good we are at that game. Honestly look at the carve up in the Eurovision Contest, we'd be just trading with Ireland ;-)
Anyway that's my ten pence worth, this is probably not the place for it but just nice to see it being discussed somewhere without all the historonics. As I say I may still be convinced otherwise but for me it's a 'better the devil you know', and living in London I feel as much common ground with someone from Paris, Rome, Brussels, Madrid or Berlin as I do with someone from Sunderland or Swindon. That's not a bad thing surely.
What a fascinating spread of views and opinions. I've withheld my views on this to date beyond close friends and family because A) not sure if anyone should care what I think on the subject, B) there are smart and intelligent people I respect (and who's opinions on economics and security I should give full consideration for) on both sides of the debate, and, C) there are many I don't respect who I seem to agree with on this particular issue. So in summary I'm still quite confused and whilst natural inclination is to stay, I may change....
One thing I don't see discussed very often though is the wider consequence for everyone else. I spend a lot of time in Scotland and was there for the referendum. At the time I believed in the 'better together' argument. I genuinely did, I genuinely do. Is it perfect? No. But when has division ever been a better alternative? If I bought into those theories then, I have to surely apply them to this question. I like communities and I like to participate in large and active ones, why would I want to vote for a smaller one?
The relevance to me is all this focus on the UK out of the EU, but surely that also risks the Union itself (Scotland in particular). And what happens to the EU with us gone? Will others vote to leave. Does Spain finally split. I just see change for the sake of change, and I get that not everyone is happy with their lot, but turn on the news and look at the very real challenges that so many others are facing day in day out. For what it's worth I think we've had a pretty good 50 years.
I don't want to have every country to have to renegotiate on their own terms, have you seen how good we are at that game. Honestly look at the carve up in the Eurovision Contest, we'd be just trading with Ireland ;-)
Anyway that's my ten pence worth, this is probably not the place for it but just nice to see it being discussed somewhere without all the historonics. As I say I may still be convinced otherwise but for me it's a 'better the devil you know', and living in London I feel as much common ground with someone from Paris, Rome, Brussels, Madrid or Berlin as I do with someone from Sunderland or Swindon. That's not a bad thing surely.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 1:02:54 GMT 1, I work in the labour market and am privileged to be party to a great deal of information. Most people will follow some rhetoric or other. In reality I firmly believe we should vote out. The romantic notion of better together is rubbish in my view. UK leads the way on so many things. We don't need to follow...we can lead. lol
I work in the labour market and am privileged to be party to a great deal of information. Most people will follow some rhetoric or other. In reality I firmly believe we should vote out. The romantic notion of better together is rubbish in my view. UK leads the way on so many things. We don't need to follow...we can lead. lol
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 1:54:11 GMT 1, One very good reason to remain within the EU...
When Rupert Murdoch was asked why he is so opposed to the UK being a member of the European Union he replied, "That's easy. When I go to Downing Street they do what I say. When I go to Brussels they take no notice of me".
One very good reason to remain within the EU...
When Rupert Murdoch was asked why he is so opposed to the UK being a member of the European Union he replied, "That's easy. When I go to Downing Street they do what I say. When I go to Brussels they take no notice of me".
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andyroo0312
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by andyroo0312 on Mar 25, 2016 1:58:06 GMT 1, And why would leaving the European Union effect them buying our produce? Because you can't have advantages of the Shengen space without being in it. There will be a dissociation in the EU import/export taxes and yours, but yours will not be as competitive as now. Naturally, EU will have to find another trade partner. Anyone thinking they can be powerful alone are fools. I am not so sure of that. They could possibly join EFTA and still enjoy all the trade just like Norway, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Iceland who are not in the EU but are part of the Schengen Agreement. If they leave the EU the UK will still be a big player in the EEA and NATO but generally people don't like change and for many i could see how this would be a bad thing but as they say you can't make a omelette without breaking a few eggs. I will bet all my Banksys that every single Pol, Bulgarian, Serb, Bosnian and Romanian Gypsy will be praying GB stays in the EU. Britain needs to get strong from within. One should fix ones own backyard before trying to fix the street.
And why would leaving the European Union effect them buying our produce? Because you can't have advantages of the Shengen space without being in it. There will be a dissociation in the EU import/export taxes and yours, but yours will not be as competitive as now. Naturally, EU will have to find another trade partner. Anyone thinking they can be powerful alone are fools. I am not so sure of that. They could possibly join EFTA and still enjoy all the trade just like Norway, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Iceland who are not in the EU but are part of the Schengen Agreement. If they leave the EU the UK will still be a big player in the EEA and NATO but generally people don't like change and for many i could see how this would be a bad thing but as they say you can't make a omelette without breaking a few eggs. I will bet all my Banksys that every single Pol, Bulgarian, Serb, Bosnian and Romanian Gypsy will be praying GB stays in the EU. Britain needs to get strong from within. One should fix ones own backyard before trying to fix the street.
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kapow
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by kapow on Mar 25, 2016 2:39:45 GMT 1, And as has been mentioned there IS NO RENEGOTIATION. If you vote to leave the EU will dictate the terms required to gain access to the free market. As has been mentioned several times, we will need to renegotiate our relationship with Europe should we leave. My worry is that irrespective of what deal we eventually get, at this point in time there is no way of knowing whether the deal will leave us in a better position or a worse one. So there is a big risk in leaving, and no risk in staying. That's why I'll be voting to stay. Sounds like we are on the same side. However, there would be renegotiation. Ultimately the UK has the fastest growing economy in Europe, and a significant number of unemployed EU citizens have come here to find work (good for our economy and theirs). The EU will certainly be interested in maintaining the free movement of EU citizens to/from the UK for as long as possible. And that is just one of many bargaining chips the UK has. Therefore I think it's unlikely that there would be no scope at all for negotiating our access to the free market. That said I do agree that the EU will be in a stronger position to negotiate than we will.
And as has been mentioned there IS NO RENEGOTIATION. If you vote to leave the EU will dictate the terms required to gain access to the free market. As has been mentioned several times, we will need to renegotiate our relationship with Europe should we leave. My worry is that irrespective of what deal we eventually get, at this point in time there is no way of knowing whether the deal will leave us in a better position or a worse one. So there is a big risk in leaving, and no risk in staying. That's why I'll be voting to stay. Sounds like we are on the same side. However, there would be renegotiation. Ultimately the UK has the fastest growing economy in Europe, and a significant number of unemployed EU citizens have come here to find work (good for our economy and theirs). The EU will certainly be interested in maintaining the free movement of EU citizens to/from the UK for as long as possible. And that is just one of many bargaining chips the UK has. Therefore I think it's unlikely that there would be no scope at all for negotiating our access to the free market. That said I do agree that the EU will be in a stronger position to negotiate than we will.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by andyroo0312 on Mar 25, 2016 2:58:56 GMT 1, The amount of money wasted by the EU every year is scandalous. Fraud is cemented into the commissions foundations and every member state has its own agenda. Its time for a change and at the very least a shake up of the EU agreement. It always seems the UK starts its negotiations in the strongest of positions but finish getting the bad end of the stick. Maybe its that British reserve or just not wanting to upset anyone? Being a expat i just hope that what ever happens its good for Britannia.
The amount of money wasted by the EU every year is scandalous. Fraud is cemented into the commissions foundations and every member state has its own agenda. Its time for a change and at the very least a shake up of the EU agreement. It always seems the UK starts its negotiations in the strongest of positions but finish getting the bad end of the stick. Maybe its that British reserve or just not wanting to upset anyone? Being a expat i just hope that what ever happens its good for Britannia.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by source on Mar 25, 2016 10:26:31 GMT 1, I work in the labour market and am privileged to be party to a great deal of information. Most people will follow some rhetoric or other. In reality I firmly believe we should vote out. The romantic notion of better together is rubbish in my view. UK leads the way on so many things. We don't need to follow...we can lead. lol
Thanks for the constructive comment!
I work in the labour market and am privileged to be party to a great deal of information. Most people will follow some rhetoric or other. In reality I firmly believe we should vote out. The romantic notion of better together is rubbish in my view. UK leads the way on so many things. We don't need to follow...we can lead. lol Thanks for the constructive comment!
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by danbongo on Mar 25, 2016 10:43:19 GMT 1, A thread of pure comedy, and one that reminds me how far removed urban art and its brainless bunch of followers is from graf
A thread of pure comedy, and one that reminds me how far removed urban art and its brainless bunch of followers is from graf
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by RoboJ on Mar 25, 2016 12:01:52 GMT 1, I dont believe anybody goes in to politics thinking what can they get out of it. I genuinely believe politicians make the decisions they feel are right at that moment in time, given the circumstances and their options. Its very easy to say in hindsight what decisions were good and bad. Any fool can condemn others when judging peoples decisions when they have the benefit of hindsight.
Regarding leave or stay, I feel this is a very dangerous time. We the people are being asked to make possibly the biggest single decision for ourselves and the next generation and whats it going to be based on? Our prejudice and blind sightedness. I wish there was an independent body who could document the pros and cons so people can make an educated decision on what really is best rather than gut feelings or a dislike to particular people in power.
My current view is stay... It makes sense given I don't pretend to know all the consequences of staying or leaving.
I dont believe anybody goes in to politics thinking what can they get out of it. I genuinely believe politicians make the decisions they feel are right at that moment in time, given the circumstances and their options. Its very easy to say in hindsight what decisions were good and bad. Any fool can condemn others when judging peoples decisions when they have the benefit of hindsight.
Regarding leave or stay, I feel this is a very dangerous time. We the people are being asked to make possibly the biggest single decision for ourselves and the next generation and whats it going to be based on? Our prejudice and blind sightedness. I wish there was an independent body who could document the pros and cons so people can make an educated decision on what really is best rather than gut feelings or a dislike to particular people in power.
My current view is stay... It makes sense given I don't pretend to know all the consequences of staying or leaving.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by kevkevkev on Mar 26, 2016 11:14:13 GMT 1, As someone who earns less than ยฃ1200 a month my priority is stopping unskilled migrants. Half of my factory is non british. All but 3, polish. That needs to end. Most of you are probably in jobs where that doesnt affect you. But if i lost my job i would now be competing with 1000's of eu migrants. Prior to joining the eu you could pick and choose jobs. Why should an unskilled polish person be let in yet a highly skilled doctor from india have to jump through hoops to get here. Its clear we have to leave. Thats before we talk about terrorism and the problems with calais. this country did ok before we joined and will do so after.
As someone who earns less than ยฃ1200 a month my priority is stopping unskilled migrants. Half of my factory is non british. All but 3, polish. That needs to end. Most of you are probably in jobs where that doesnt affect you. But if i lost my job i would now be competing with 1000's of eu migrants. Prior to joining the eu you could pick and choose jobs. Why should an unskilled polish person be let in yet a highly skilled doctor from india have to jump through hoops to get here. Its clear we have to leave. Thats before we talk about terrorism and the problems with calais. this country did ok before we joined and will do so after.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Mar 26, 2016 12:36:21 GMT 1, I'm an outie I would just like to hear the facts form a completely non biased view, in simple terms (lots of pictures please) because right now I want to be an outie mainly to feel a bit of anarchy in my veins, the great unknown, no one will starve because of it, f**k it, lets see what happens kind of emotion? I dont want to hear all the s**t about we wont get electric at the right price ( we haven't had it at the right price for years), I hate all the fear bulls**t, we wont be able to buy BMW cars anymore, or Porsches, and f**k me all the cheese exporters will boycot us all forever Tourists won't come here anymore!! think you forgot that one.
Then theres that map, money into europe from us, money to us from europe. How much manipulated is that! Again, assuming tourists won't come here and literally no one from europe will buy or sell with us, then maybe there would be a shred of truth. But as ever, it chooses to ignore the fact we had trade and tourism before and we will still have it after. Just a few new rules.
Manipulation and fear will decide how this vote turns out, as the powers that be know exposing everyone to fear will gain them the decision they want us to make.
If fear guides your choices, change is unlikely.
I'm an outie I would just like to hear the facts form a completely non biased view, in simple terms (lots of pictures please) because right now I want to be an outie mainly to feel a bit of anarchy in my veins, the great unknown, no one will starve because of it, f**k it, lets see what happens kind of emotion? I dont want to hear all the s**t about we wont get electric at the right price ( we haven't had it at the right price for years), I hate all the fear bulls**t, we wont be able to buy BMW cars anymore, or Porsches, and f**k me all the cheese exporters will boycot us all forever Tourists won't come here anymore!! think you forgot that one. Then theres that map, money into europe from us, money to us from europe. How much manipulated is that! Again, assuming tourists won't come here and literally no one from europe will buy or sell with us, then maybe there would be a shred of truth. But as ever, it chooses to ignore the fact we had trade and tourism before and we will still have it after. Just a few new rules. Manipulation and fear will decide how this vote turns out, as the powers that be know exposing everyone to fear will gain them the decision they want us to make. If fear guides your choices, change is unlikely.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Poster Bob on Mar 26, 2016 12:50:10 GMT 1, Leaving will not stop the free moment of people within the EU. To gain access to the EU market you will have to accept free movement. The leave campaign should have told you that.
As someone who earns less than ยฃ1200 a month my priority is stopping unskilled migrants. Half of my factory is non british. All but 3, polish. That needs to end. Most of you are probably in jobs where that doesnt affect you. But if i lost my job i would now be competing with 1000's of eu migrants. Prior to joining the eu you could pick and choose jobs. Why should an unskilled polish person be let in yet a highly skilled doctor from india have to jump through hoops to get here. Its clear we have to leave. Thats before we talk about terrorism and the problems with calais. this country did ok before we joined and will do so after.
Leaving will not stop the free moment of people within the EU. To gain access to the EU market you will have to accept free movement. The leave campaign should have told you that. As someone who earns less than ยฃ1200 a month my priority is stopping unskilled migrants. Half of my factory is non british. All but 3, polish. That needs to end. Most of you are probably in jobs where that doesnt affect you. But if i lost my job i would now be competing with 1000's of eu migrants. Prior to joining the eu you could pick and choose jobs. Why should an unskilled polish person be let in yet a highly skilled doctor from india have to jump through hoops to get here. Its clear we have to leave. Thats before we talk about terrorism and the problems with calais. this country did ok before we joined and will do so after.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Mar 26, 2016 12:59:51 GMT 1, So far = Remain a member of the European Union - 30 votes (56.60%) Leave the European Union - 23 votes (43.40%
Interesting from what I see around online remain is winning most polls but by very little, so the gap here is maybe a bit bigger in this scene.
So far = Remain a member of the European Union - 30 votes (56.60%) Leave the European Union - 23 votes (43.40% Interesting from what I see around online remain is winning most polls but by very little, so the gap here is maybe a bit bigger in this scene.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 17:27:37 GMT 1, A thread of pure comedy, and one that reminds me how far removed urban art and its brainless bunch of followers is from graf Whats your opinion on the EU and Britain staying in or leaving?
A thread of pure comedy, and one that reminds me how far removed urban art and its brainless bunch of followers is from graf Whats your opinion on the EU and Britain staying in or leaving?
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