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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 27, 2016 19:43:55 GMT 1, Now our credit rating has been downgraded. I wonder if brexiters still think the predictions of economic turmoil was a scare tactic? At least we've got our country back! Bitter, me?! Its not a good Coach, is it.
It's very bad. We've just had a period of lowest unemployment for a long time. Soon to end, I fear.
Still, at least we got our country back!
Now our credit rating has been downgraded. I wonder if brexiters still think the predictions of economic turmoil was a scare tactic? At least we've got our country back! Bitter, me?! Its not a good Coach, is it. It's very bad. We've just had a period of lowest unemployment for a long time. Soon to end, I fear. Still, at least we got our country back! |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 27, 2016 19:46:47 GMT 1, Will the conservatives get a majority at the next election? Probably not. Another coalition government, but with who? Lib Dem, No Labour, of course not  UKIP, yes. I heard somewhere the Lib Dems are attracting a lot of the European vote and might join forces with SNP for a coalition based on promise to stay in Europe. That could be pretty awesome if there was a general election. I'd vote for that alliance to stay in and keep the UK.
Will the conservatives get a majority at the next election? Probably not. Another coalition government, but with who? Lib Dem, No Labour, of course not UKIP, yes. I heard somewhere the Lib Dems are attracting a lot of the European vote and might join forces with SNP for a coalition based on promise to stay in Europe. That could be pretty awesome if there was a general election. I'd vote for that alliance to stay in and keep the UK. That's an interesting one could be worth a try. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 27, 2016 19:47:48 GMT 1, Lets all get behind Jeremy..................
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by FЯ on Jun 27, 2016 19:51:11 GMT 1, is it just me, or is cameron a complete arse for resigning, how much instability has he caused? He should have manned up and acted like a prime minister (someone in charge) and given confidence and leadership, not ran away like he has and let everyone else scramble around like headless chickens.
Cant moan now if you voted out, thats what you get
is it just me, or is cameron a complete arse for resigning, how much instability has he caused? He should have manned up and acted like a prime minister (someone in charge) and given confidence and leadership, not ran away like he has and let everyone else scramble around like headless chickens. Cant moan now if you voted out, thats what you get |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 19:52:30 GMT 1, Now our credit rating has been downgraded. I wonder if brexiters still think the predictions of economic turmoil was a scare tactic? At least we've got our country back! Bitter, me?!
Seems a better option than all this depression inducing negativity I'm reading all the time. Seems people would be happy to prove themselves right even if that destroys the country, rather than pick up and make to work. Its like your winding each other up to find a new depth of negativity!
Its a democracy, not a dictatorship, and the people were given the choice. Im sure you would all love to live in a dictatorship, we see how well that works for us on here!!!!
it is what it is, get on with making it work, rather than undermine the possibilities it creates. Which is pointless, the decision has been made, by the people.
Now our credit rating has been downgraded. I wonder if brexiters still think the predictions of economic turmoil was a scare tactic? At least we've got our country back! Bitter, me?! Courtesy of the Brexit? or maybe the way its been dealt with and all the negativity? Markets (as we should probably be aware) can be manipulated, and they also recover. Lets be a little more positive and just get on with making it work. Seems a better option than all this depression inducing negativity I'm reading all the time. Seems people would be happy to prove themselves right even if that destroys the country, rather than pick up and make to work. Its like your winding each other up to find a new depth of negativity! Its a democracy, not a dictatorship, and the people were given the choice. Im sure you would all love to live in a dictatorship, we see how well that works for us on here!!!! it is what it is, get on with making it work, rather than undermine the possibilities it creates. Which is pointless, the decision has been made, by the people. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 19:54:19 GMT 1, Its not a good Coach, is it. It's very bad. We've just had a period of lowest unemployment for a long time. Soon to end, I fear. Still, at least we got our country back!
Its not a good Coach, is it. It's very bad. We've just had a period of lowest unemployment for a long time. Soon to end, I fear. Still, at least we got our country back! Thats a huge lie too (not yours though!) . Lowest figures yes, but only because they have been manipulated!! We probably have all time record high unemployment as it happens. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 27, 2016 19:58:38 GMT 1, Now our credit rating has been downgraded. I wonder if brexiters still think the predictions of economic turmoil was a scare tactic? At least we've got our country back! Bitter, me?! Courtesy of the Brexit? or maybe the way its been dealt with and all the negativity? Markets (as we should probably be aware) can be manipulated, and they also recover. Lets be a little more positive and just get on with making it work. Seems a better option than all this depression inducing negativity I'm reading all the time. Seems people would be happy to prove themselves right even if that destroys the country, rather than pick up and make to work. Its like your winding each other up to find a new depth of negativity! Its a democracy, not a dictatorship, and the people were given the choice. Im sure you would all love to live in a dictatorship, we see how well that works for us on here!!!! it is what it is, get on with making it work, rather than undermine the possibilities it creates. Which is pointless, the decision has been made, by the people.
I certainly don't want to be proved right. Often I said on here that I truly hoped that I was wrong.
But just at the moment I'm afraid that I really can't help feeling very angry.
I'm not sure what I can do now to make it work. It's now out of my hands. I also very much doubt that my expression of despair on here will undermine anything.
But at least.......
Now our credit rating has been downgraded. I wonder if brexiters still think the predictions of economic turmoil was a scare tactic? At least we've got our country back! Bitter, me?! Courtesy of the Brexit? or maybe the way its been dealt with and all the negativity? Markets (as we should probably be aware) can be manipulated, and they also recover. Lets be a little more positive and just get on with making it work. Seems a better option than all this depression inducing negativity I'm reading all the time. Seems people would be happy to prove themselves right even if that destroys the country, rather than pick up and make to work. Its like your winding each other up to find a new depth of negativity! Its a democracy, not a dictatorship, and the people were given the choice. Im sure you would all love to live in a dictatorship, we see how well that works for us on here!!!! it is what it is, get on with making it work, rather than undermine the possibilities it creates. Which is pointless, the decision has been made, by the people. I certainly don't want to be proved right. Often I said on here that I truly hoped that I was wrong. But just at the moment I'm afraid that I really can't help feeling very angry. I'm not sure what I can do now to make it work. It's now out of my hands. I also very much doubt that my expression of despair on here will undermine anything. But at least....... |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 20:04:53 GMT 1, Courtesy of the Brexit? or maybe the way its been dealt with and all the negativity? Markets (as we should probably be aware) can be manipulated, and they also recover. Lets be a little more positive and just get on with making it work. Seems a better option than all this depression inducing negativity I'm reading all the time. Seems people would be happy to prove themselves right even if that destroys the country, rather than pick up and make to work. Its like your winding each other up to find a new depth of negativity! Its a democracy, not a dictatorship, and the people were given the choice. Im sure you would all love to live in a dictatorship, we see how well that works for us on here!!!! it is what it is, get on with making it work, rather than undermine the possibilities it creates. Which is pointless, the decision has been made, by the people. I certainly don't want to be proved right. Often I said on here that I truly hoped that I was wrong. But just at the moment I'm afraid that I really can't help feeling very angry. I'm not sure what I can do now to make it work. It's now out of my hands. I also very much doubt that my expression of despair on here will undermine anything. But at least.......
the but at least..... is just boring me to be honest. its still just the suggestion that this is racism based. Which is narrow minded, and f**kinginsulting to be honest. and thats ignoring the fact that England is the ultimate bastard nation anyway, so what the hell exactly IS english? I know I'm not ffs.
Courtesy of the Brexit? or maybe the way its been dealt with and all the negativity? Markets (as we should probably be aware) can be manipulated, and they also recover. Lets be a little more positive and just get on with making it work. Seems a better option than all this depression inducing negativity I'm reading all the time. Seems people would be happy to prove themselves right even if that destroys the country, rather than pick up and make to work. Its like your winding each other up to find a new depth of negativity! Its a democracy, not a dictatorship, and the people were given the choice. Im sure you would all love to live in a dictatorship, we see how well that works for us on here!!!! it is what it is, get on with making it work, rather than undermine the possibilities it creates. Which is pointless, the decision has been made, by the people. I certainly don't want to be proved right. Often I said on here that I truly hoped that I was wrong. But just at the moment I'm afraid that I really can't help feeling very angry. I'm not sure what I can do now to make it work. It's now out of my hands. I also very much doubt that my expression of despair on here will undermine anything. But at least....... I get your angry, thats my life each time we elect another poxy tory government. But i accept it, i don't run around screaming the sky will fall in, and that were all doomed. Its the way democracy works. What you most defiantly CAN do, is be positive about the future. This negative doom gloom and dispare is going to do nothing to make this easier. the but at least..... is just boring me to be honest. its still just the suggestion that this is racism based. Which is narrow minded, and f**kinginsulting to be honest. and thats ignoring the fact that England is the ultimate bastard nation anyway, so what the hell exactly IS english? I know I'm not ffs. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Jun 27, 2016 20:10:18 GMT 1, ... so democracy works and elects Tory governments ... but that's not proper democracy, as it's a Tory government ... and when it's a Tory government be positive about it!?! ... just saying ... lol ...
... so democracy works and elects Tory governments ... but that's not proper democracy, as it's a Tory government ... and when it's a Tory government be positive about it!?! ... just saying ... lol ...
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 20:16:16 GMT 1, ... so democracy works and elects Tory governments ... but that's not proper democracy, as it's a Tory government ... and when it's a Tory government be positive about it!?! ... just saying ... lol ...
... so democracy works and elects Tory governments ... but that's not proper democracy, as it's a Tory government ... and when it's a Tory government be positive about it!?! ... just saying ... lol ... Just saying what, exactly?? makes no sense at all to me. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 27, 2016 20:16:41 GMT 1,
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 27, 2016 20:24:55 GMT 1, I certainly don't want to be proved right. Often I said on here that I truly hoped that I was wrong. But just at the moment I'm afraid that I really can't help feeling very angry. I'm not sure what I can do now to make it work. It's now out of my hands. I also very much doubt that my expression of despair on here will undermine anything. But at least....... I get your angry, thats my life each time we elect another poxy tory government. But i accept it, i don't run around screaming the sky will fall in, and that were all doomed. Its the way democracy works. What you most defiantly CAN do, is be positive about the future. This negative doom gloom and dispare is going to do nothing to make this easier. the but at least..... is just boring me to be honest. its still just the suggestion that this is racism based. Which is narrow minded, and f**kinginsulting to be honest. and thats ignoring the fact that England is the ultimate bastard nation anyway, so what the hell exactly IS english? I know I'm not ffs.
I don't want to fall out with you tartarus, even though I do find parts of your reply quite insulting. I have always enjoyed your posts on here, and believe you to be a decent chap.
It's only two working days since the vote, so this is quite raw, I'm afraid.
The "country back" sentiment is not a suggestion of racism at all. It's a reference to the brexiters repeated assertion that leave would mean the country getting its sovereignty back. I believe that was pandering to patriotic, not racist, sentiments. It was a significant part of their campaign. And I believe it was a misleading one.
Edit - sorry I meant patriotic. Edited.
I certainly don't want to be proved right. Often I said on here that I truly hoped that I was wrong. But just at the moment I'm afraid that I really can't help feeling very angry. I'm not sure what I can do now to make it work. It's now out of my hands. I also very much doubt that my expression of despair on here will undermine anything. But at least....... I get your angry, thats my life each time we elect another poxy tory government. But i accept it, i don't run around screaming the sky will fall in, and that were all doomed. Its the way democracy works. What you most defiantly CAN do, is be positive about the future. This negative doom gloom and dispare is going to do nothing to make this easier. the but at least..... is just boring me to be honest. its still just the suggestion that this is racism based. Which is narrow minded, and f**kinginsulting to be honest. and thats ignoring the fact that England is the ultimate bastard nation anyway, so what the hell exactly IS english? I know I'm not ffs. I don't want to fall out with you tartarus, even though I do find parts of your reply quite insulting. I have always enjoyed your posts on here, and believe you to be a decent chap. It's only two working days since the vote, so this is quite raw, I'm afraid. The "country back" sentiment is not a suggestion of racism at all. It's a reference to the brexiters repeated assertion that leave would mean the country getting its sovereignty back. I believe that was pandering to patriotic, not racist, sentiments. It was a significant part of their campaign. And I believe it was a misleading one. Edit - sorry I meant patriotic. Edited. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Jun 27, 2016 20:27:01 GMT 1, ... so democracy works and elects Tory governments ... but that's not proper democracy, as it's a Tory government ... and when it's a Tory government be positive about it!?! ... just saying ... lol ... Just saying what, exactly?? makes no sense at all to me.
... so democracy works and elects Tory governments ... but that's not proper democracy, as it's a Tory government ... and when it's a Tory government be positive about it!?! ... just saying ... lol ... Just saying what, exactly?? makes no sense at all to me. ... lol ... |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 20:33:24 GMT 1, Just saying what, exactly?? makes no sense at all to me. ... lol ...
Just saying what, exactly?? makes no sense at all to me. ... lol ... yeah ok. i get it now, you had nothing, but the need to say something. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Jun 27, 2016 20:36:50 GMT 1, yeah ok. i get it now, you had nothing, but the need to say something.
yeah ok. i get it now, you had nothing, but the need to say something. ... your right ... |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Viking Surfer on Jun 27, 2016 20:50:06 GMT 1, I've just stopped discussing it on social media. Nothing I say / do will actually alter anything now.
I've just stopped discussing it on social media. Nothing I say / do will actually alter anything now.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 20:50:32 GMT 1, I get your angry, thats my life each time we elect another poxy tory government. But i accept it, i don't run around screaming the sky will fall in, and that were all doomed. Its the way democracy works. What you most defiantly CAN do, is be positive about the future. This negative doom gloom and dispare is going to do nothing to make this easier. the but at least..... is just boring me to be honest. its still just the suggestion that this is racism based. Which is narrow minded, and f**kinginsulting to be honest. and thats ignoring the fact that England is the ultimate bastard nation anyway, so what the hell exactly IS english? I know I'm not ffs. I don't want to fall out with you tartarus, even though I do find parts of your reply quite insulting. I have always enjoyed your posts on here, and believe you to be a decent chap. It's only two working days since the vote, so this is quite raw, I'm afraid. The "country back" sentiment is not a suggestion of racism at all. It's a reference to the brexiters repeated assertion that leave would mean the country getting its sovereignty back. I believe that was pandering to nationalistic, not racist, sentiments. It was a significant part of their campaign. And I believe it was a misleading one.
Both campaigns were run on total and utter bullshit. There is no denying that. it was a disgusting example of political manipulation and deceit.
I get your angry, thats my life each time we elect another poxy tory government. But i accept it, i don't run around screaming the sky will fall in, and that were all doomed. Its the way democracy works. What you most defiantly CAN do, is be positive about the future. This negative doom gloom and dispare is going to do nothing to make this easier. the but at least..... is just boring me to be honest. its still just the suggestion that this is racism based. Which is narrow minded, and f**kinginsulting to be honest. and thats ignoring the fact that England is the ultimate bastard nation anyway, so what the hell exactly IS english? I know I'm not ffs. I don't want to fall out with you tartarus, even though I do find parts of your reply quite insulting. I have always enjoyed your posts on here, and believe you to be a decent chap. It's only two working days since the vote, so this is quite raw, I'm afraid. The "country back" sentiment is not a suggestion of racism at all. It's a reference to the brexiters repeated assertion that leave would mean the country getting its sovereignty back. I believe that was pandering to nationalistic, not racist, sentiments. It was a significant part of their campaign. And I believe it was a misleading one. not going to fall out with you!! my point is partly about NOT causing more division! I'm just frayed with all the negativity. This is being talked into a way bigger disaster than it needs to be. Almost as though people would rather now fail just to be right! And thats a self fulfilling prophecy i don't need to see. i hated hearing all the racist crap and the cranking of the hate rhetoric. It wasn't the only thing people could have based their decision on though. and to keep referencing it, is defiantly feeling like an accusation. A generalised one, and one that may be accurate in a lot of cases, but not all. Both campaigns were run on total and utter bullshit. There is no denying that. it was a disgusting example of political manipulation and deceit. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 20:50:55 GMT 1, yeah ok. i get it now, you had nothing, but the need to say something. ... your right ...
yeah ok. i get it now, you had nothing, but the need to say something. ... your right ... i know. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Viking Surfer on Jun 27, 2016 20:54:08 GMT 1, I think we should all head to my England vs Iceland thread....
I think we should all head to my England vs Iceland thread....
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Jun 27, 2016 20:54:54 GMT 1,
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 21:02:54 GMT 1, ... you're ... I ...
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Jun 27, 2016 21:04:32 GMT 1, ... you're ... I ... Pat yourself on the back. Im pleased you can use me for much needed self affirmation.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 27, 2016 21:05:02 GMT 1, I don't want to fall out with you tartarus, even though I do find parts of your reply quite insulting. I have always enjoyed your posts on here, and believe you to be a decent chap. It's only two working days since the vote, so this is quite raw, I'm afraid. The "country back" sentiment is not a suggestion of racism at all. It's a reference to the brexiters repeated assertion that leave would mean the country getting its sovereignty back. I believe that was pandering to nationalistic, not racist, sentiments. It was a significant part of their campaign. And I believe it was a misleading one. not going to fall out with you!! my point is partly about NOT causing more division! I'm just frayed with all the negativity. This is being talked into a way bigger disaster than it needs to be. Almost as though people would rather now fail just to be right! And thats a self fulfilling prophecy i don't need to see. i hated hearing all the racist crap and the cranking of the hate rhetoric. It wasn't the only thing people could have based their decision on though. and to keep referencing it, is defiantly feeling like an accusation. A generalised one, and one that may be accurate in a lot of cases, but not all. Both campaigns were run on total and utter bullshit. There is no denying that. it was a disgusting example of political manipulation and deceit.
Totally accept that a great many people will have made their decision to leave not based on the sovereignty argument. I also agree that a lot did though. It's a shame - I was saddened today to listen to the radio and hear mention of the meetings between Germany France and Italy about planning their reaction - and the upsetting part was that they were referred to as the "now" three main countries in the EU.
Also totally accept that the campaign was appalling on both sides of the argument.
I certainly don't want to be right about my fears for the economy and jobs.
Did not mean to insult you personally, just as I doubt you intended me to find your post insulting (well at least I hope not!).
I'll leave it there tartarus. Hopefully no hard feelings.
I don't want to fall out with you tartarus, even though I do find parts of your reply quite insulting. I have always enjoyed your posts on here, and believe you to be a decent chap. It's only two working days since the vote, so this is quite raw, I'm afraid. The "country back" sentiment is not a suggestion of racism at all. It's a reference to the brexiters repeated assertion that leave would mean the country getting its sovereignty back. I believe that was pandering to nationalistic, not racist, sentiments. It was a significant part of their campaign. And I believe it was a misleading one. not going to fall out with you!! my point is partly about NOT causing more division! I'm just frayed with all the negativity. This is being talked into a way bigger disaster than it needs to be. Almost as though people would rather now fail just to be right! And thats a self fulfilling prophecy i don't need to see. i hated hearing all the racist crap and the cranking of the hate rhetoric. It wasn't the only thing people could have based their decision on though. and to keep referencing it, is defiantly feeling like an accusation. A generalised one, and one that may be accurate in a lot of cases, but not all. Both campaigns were run on total and utter bullshit. There is no denying that. it was a disgusting example of political manipulation and deceit. Totally accept that a great many people will have made their decision to leave not based on the sovereignty argument. I also agree that a lot did though. It's a shame - I was saddened today to listen to the radio and hear mention of the meetings between Germany France and Italy about planning their reaction - and the upsetting part was that they were referred to as the "now" three main countries in the EU. Also totally accept that the campaign was appalling on both sides of the argument. I certainly don't want to be right about my fears for the economy and jobs. Did not mean to insult you personally, just as I doubt you intended me to find your post insulting (well at least I hope not!). I'll leave it there tartarus. Hopefully no hard feelings. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 27, 2016 21:12:37 GMT 1, I think we should all head to my England vs Iceland thread....
I don't like their throw ins much!!
I think we should all head to my England vs Iceland thread.... I don't like their throw ins much!! |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 27, 2016 21:17:22 GMT 1, not going to fall out with you!! my point is partly about NOT causing more division! I'm just frayed with all the negativity. This is being talked into a way bigger disaster than it needs to be. Almost as though people would rather now fail just to be right! And thats a self fulfilling prophecy i don't need to see. i hated hearing all the racist crap and the cranking of the hate rhetoric. It wasn't the only thing people could have based their decision on though. and to keep referencing it, is defiantly feeling like an accusation. A generalised one, and one that may be accurate in a lot of cases, but not all. Both campaigns were run on total and utter bullshit. There is no denying that. it was a disgusting example of political manipulation and deceit. Totally accept that a great many people will have made their decision to leave not based on the sovereignty argument. I also agree that a lot did though. It's a shame - I was saddened today to listen to the radio and hear mention of the meetings between Germany France and Italy about planning their reaction - and the upsetting part was that they were referred to as the "now" three main countries in the EU. Also totally accept that the campaign was appalling on both sides of the argument. I certainly don't want to be right about my fears for the economy and jobs. Did not mean to insult you personally, just as I doubt you intended me to find your post insulting (well at least I hope not!). I'll leave it there tartarus. Hopefully no hard feelings.
Jeremy will be here soon, it will all be fine in the end.
not going to fall out with you!! my point is partly about NOT causing more division! I'm just frayed with all the negativity. This is being talked into a way bigger disaster than it needs to be. Almost as though people would rather now fail just to be right! And thats a self fulfilling prophecy i don't need to see. i hated hearing all the racist crap and the cranking of the hate rhetoric. It wasn't the only thing people could have based their decision on though. and to keep referencing it, is defiantly feeling like an accusation. A generalised one, and one that may be accurate in a lot of cases, but not all. Both campaigns were run on total and utter bullshit. There is no denying that. it was a disgusting example of political manipulation and deceit. Totally accept that a great many people will have made their decision to leave not based on the sovereignty argument. I also agree that a lot did though. It's a shame - I was saddened today to listen to the radio and hear mention of the meetings between Germany France and Italy about planning their reaction - and the upsetting part was that they were referred to as the "now" three main countries in the EU. Also totally accept that the campaign was appalling on both sides of the argument. I certainly don't want to be right about my fears for the economy and jobs. Did not mean to insult you personally, just as I doubt you intended me to find your post insulting (well at least I hope not!). I'll leave it there tartarus. Hopefully no hard feelings. none at all! my post wasnt meant to be offensive either, but i see what you picked up on. Jeremy will be here soon, it will all be fine in the end. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 21:27:37 GMT 1, Thats a shame and it shows the herd mentality of people. There is an undercurrent of jealousy too. Thankfully most people have a slightly higher IQ.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 21:46:40 GMT 1, The reports of racist leaflets etc targeting Poles are likely instigated by some desperate group who don't know their history and pick on easy targets. The police won't do a thing about racism towards eastern europeans.
If for example once the UK has officially left the EU and large majority of Polish people leave Britain to find new jobs in EU countries. For example jobs that the Brits will be told are no longer theirs in France Germany etc etc.
I can't really see the fat Tracey's or whatever they call themselves, living off benefits and watching Jeremy Kyle every day. Clamouring to do the jobs that the Poles used to do in their region like going vegetable picking in fields at 5 am and other work.
Thought this article was ironic too.
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/27/sadiq-khan-muslim-council-britain-warning-of-post-brexit-racism
"David Cameron has condemned “despicable” xenophobic abuse after the EU referendum as figures suggested a 57% increase in reported incidents.
The country would not stand for hate crime, the prime minister told MPs.
“In the past few days we have seen despicable graffiti daubed on a Polish community centre,"
“Let’s remember these people have come here and made a wonderful contribution to our country. We will not stand for hate crime or these kinds of attacks, they must be stamped out.”
" The Muslim Council of Britain urged political and civic leaders to heal divisions exposed by last week’s vote.
Shuja Shafi, the MCB’s secretary general, said: “As the results of the referendum became known, I called for our politicians to come together and heal the divisions that have emerged as a result of the campaign.
The umbrella organisation has compiled a dossier of reported racist and Islamophobic incidents since the result of the referendum was announced on Friday morning.
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How ironic considering muslimsforbritainorg.wordpress.com/
" Muslims for Britain is a new campaign group that aims to win support for Brexit among the UK's 3 million Muslims "
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12150386/Why-British-Muslims-should-vote-to-leave-the-EU.html
Whose agenda to vote for a Brexit because they do not like Europeans being able to travel freely and work in europe. Where they say.
"How can it be fair that inexperienced, unqualified people are allowed to freely come to the United Kingdom from the EU, but we are unable to bring in talented individuals from the wider Commonwealth community?"
So just as much against eastern europeans as the UKIP brigade.
They also have the nerve to play the victims regarding post Brexit racist graffiti and insults towards Poles and eastern europeans.
The reports of racist leaflets etc targeting Poles are likely instigated by some desperate group who don't know their history and pick on easy targets. The police won't do a thing about racism towards eastern europeans. If for example once the UK has officially left the EU and large majority of Polish people leave Britain to find new jobs in EU countries. For example jobs that the Brits will be told are no longer theirs in France Germany etc etc. I can't really see the fat Tracey's or whatever they call themselves, living off benefits and watching Jeremy Kyle every day. Clamouring to do the jobs that the Poles used to do in their region like going vegetable picking in fields at 5 am and other work. Thought this article was ironic too. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/27/sadiq-khan-muslim-council-britain-warning-of-post-brexit-racism" David Cameron has condemned “despicable” xenophobic abuse after the EU referendum as figures suggested a 57% increase in reported incidents.
The country would not stand for hate crime, the prime minister told MPs.
“In the past few days we have seen despicable graffiti daubed on a Polish community centre,"“Let’s remember these people have come here and made a wonderful contribution to our country. We will not stand for hate crime or these kinds of attacks, they must be stamped out.”" The Muslim Council of Britain urged political and civic leaders to heal divisions exposed by last week’s vote.
Shuja Shafi, the MCB’s secretary general, said: “As the results of the referendum became known, I called for our politicians to come together and heal the divisions that have emerged as a result of the campaign.
The umbrella organisation has compiled a dossier of reported racist and Islamophobic incidents since the result of the referendum was announced on Friday morning.
" How ironic considering muslimsforbritainorg.wordpress.com/" Muslims for Britain is a new campaign group that aims to win support for Brexit among the UK's 3 million Muslims " www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12150386/Why-British-Muslims-should-vote-to-leave-the-EU.htmlWhose agenda to vote for a Brexit because they do not like Europeans being able to travel freely and work in europe. Where they say. "How can it be fair that inexperienced, unqualified people are allowed to freely come to the United Kingdom from the EU, but we are unable to bring in talented individuals from the wider Commonwealth community?" So just as much against eastern europeans as the UKIP brigade. They also have the nerve to play the victims regarding post Brexit racist graffiti and insults towards Poles and eastern europeans. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 21:52:56 GMT 1, His supporters were cheered when Farage warned David Cameron against taking any quotas of migrants from the Mediterranean convoys from North Africa.
Yet, in a little-noticed vote in the European Parliament, also during the election, Farage and three other Ukip MEPs voted against a clause calling for the ‘swift processing ... and return for those who do not qualify for asylum’.
They voted instead for a ‘voluntary return’. In other words, illegal immigrants can stay.
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3085755/ANDREW-PIERCE-Tired-Farage-vote-blunder.html#ixzz4CobFmcWU
His supporters were cheered when Farage warned David Cameron against taking any quotas of migrants from the Mediterranean convoys from North Africa.Yet, in a little-noticed vote in the European Parliament, also during the election, Farage and three other Ukip MEPs voted against a clause calling for the ‘swift processing ... and return for those who do not qualify for asylum’.
They voted instead for a ‘voluntary return’. In other words, illegal immigrants can stay.
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3085755/ANDREW-PIERCE-Tired-Farage-vote-blunder.html#ixzz4CobFmcWU
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