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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by ricardob on Oct 11, 2021 4:06:20 GMT 1, So, lets assume that the vaccinated and unvaccinated have the exact same chance to get COVID as per above. What is the damage a vaccinated person actually inflicting on a not vaccinated person? I would say none. And the same would apply to the contrary.
Now, lets assume that he vaccine does indeed reduce the rates of death and hospitalization. Then, why not get the vaccine?
Why would you put yourself at a disadvantage and risk your life? Why not think that the hospital bed you are going to need could go to someone else that might end up dying from something else because you refused to take a vaccine?
So, lets assume that the vaccinated and unvaccinated have the exact same chance to get COVID as per above. What is the damage a vaccinated person actually inflicting on a not vaccinated person? I would say none. And the same would apply to the contrary.
Now, lets assume that he vaccine does indeed reduce the rates of death and hospitalization. Then, why not get the vaccine?
Why would you put yourself at a disadvantage and risk your life? Why not think that the hospital bed you are going to need could go to someone else that might end up dying from something else because you refused to take a vaccine?
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by bob60 on Oct 11, 2021 7:04:35 GMT 1, Will you people fighting please take your vaccine fight away from here, the rest of us are not interested.
Will you people fighting please take your vaccine fight away from here, the rest of us are not interested.
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Georgie Poppit on Oct 11, 2021 9:34:35 GMT 1, Thereโs no argument to be had. Close this thread and get vaccinated.
Thereโs no argument to be had. Close this thread and get vaccinated.
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 11:25:56 GMT 1, So, lets assume that the vaccinated and unvaccinated have the exact same chance to get COVID as per above. What is the damage a vaccinated person actually inflicting on a not vaccinated person? I would say none. And the same would apply to the contrary. Now, lets assume that he vaccine does indeed reduce the rates of death and hospitalization. Then, why not get the vaccine? Why would you put yourself at a disadvantage and risk your life? Why not think that the hospital bed you are going to need could go to someone else that might end up dying from something else because you refused to take a vaccine?
You have the conspiracy theorists spouting crap, but also you have guys that are concerned the vaccine has not been fully signed off and there are many reactions and deaths caused by the vaccine recorded on the gov website not reported in the media for obvious reasons and the long term future effects on the body is unknown as studies not completed .
www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html
One of the cases listed of a vaccine in 1976 a thorough review was not carried out until 2003 which concluded risks were present, these vaccines passed tests at the time, these new vaccines have not been passed off, suppose 2048 before we get an official full comprehensive report on the vaccines.
So, lets assume that the vaccinated and unvaccinated have the exact same chance to get COVID as per above. What is the damage a vaccinated person actually inflicting on a not vaccinated person? I would say none. And the same would apply to the contrary. Now, lets assume that he vaccine does indeed reduce the rates of death and hospitalization. Then, why not get the vaccine? Why would you put yourself at a disadvantage and risk your life? Why not think that the hospital bed you are going to need could go to someone else that might end up dying from something else because you refused to take a vaccine? You have the conspiracy theorists spouting crap, but also you have guys that are concerned the vaccine has not been fully signed off and there are many reactions and deaths caused by the vaccine recorded on the gov website not reported in the media for obvious reasons and the long term future effects on the body is unknown as studies not completed . www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.htmlOne of the cases listed of a vaccine in 1976 a thorough review was not carried out until 2003 which concluded risks were present, these vaccines passed tests at the time, these new vaccines have not been passed off, suppose 2048 before we get an official full comprehensive report on the vaccines. |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by ricardob on Oct 11, 2021 13:12:53 GMT 1, So, lets assume that the vaccinated and unvaccinated have the exact same chance to get COVID as per above. What is the damage a vaccinated person actually inflicting on a not vaccinated person? I would say none. And the same would apply to the contrary. Now, lets assume that he vaccine does indeed reduce the rates of death and hospitalization. Then, why not get the vaccine? Why would you put yourself at a disadvantage and risk your life? Why not think that the hospital bed you are going to need could go to someone else that might end up dying from something else because you refused to take a vaccine? You have the conspiracy theorists spouting crap, but also you have guys that are concerned the vaccine has not been fully signed off and there are many reactions and deaths caused by the vaccine recorded on the gov website not reported in the media for obvious reasons and the long term future effects on the body is unknown as studies not completed . www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.htmlOne of the cases listed of a vaccine in 1976 a thorough review was not carried out until 2003 which concluded risks were present, these vaccines passed tests at the time, these new vaccines have not been passed off, suppose 2048 before we get an official full comprehensive report on the vaccines. 
So, lets assume that the vaccinated and unvaccinated have the exact same chance to get COVID as per above. What is the damage a vaccinated person actually inflicting on a not vaccinated person? I would say none. And the same would apply to the contrary. Now, lets assume that he vaccine does indeed reduce the rates of death and hospitalization. Then, why not get the vaccine? Why would you put yourself at a disadvantage and risk your life? Why not think that the hospital bed you are going to need could go to someone else that might end up dying from something else because you refused to take a vaccine? You have the conspiracy theorists spouting crap, but also you have guys that are concerned the vaccine has not been fully signed off and there are many reactions and deaths caused by the vaccine recorded on the gov website not reported in the media for obvious reasons and the long term future effects on the body is unknown as studies not completed . www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.htmlOne of the cases listed of a vaccine in 1976 a thorough review was not carried out until 2003 which concluded risks were present, these vaccines passed tests at the time, these new vaccines have not been passed off, suppose 2048 before we get an official full comprehensive report on the vaccines. I find it funny how some people are so concerned about potential risks of a vaccine, but completely ignore the risks COVID itself poses to them. Or ignore the risks of taking illegal drugs bough from some shady dark web dealer |
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Fairxat
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 13:46:26 GMT 1, You have the conspiracy theorists spouting crap, but also you have guys that are concerned the vaccine has not been fully signed off and there are many reactions and deaths caused by the vaccine recorded on the gov website not reported in the media for obvious reasons and the long term future effects on the body is unknown as studies not completed . www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.htmlOne of the cases listed of a vaccine in 1976 a thorough review was not carried out until 2003 which concluded risks were present, these vaccines passed tests at the time, these new vaccines have not been passed off, suppose 2048 before we get an official full comprehensive report on the vaccines. I find it funny how some people are so concerned about potential risks of a vaccine, but completely ignore the risks COVID itself poses to them. Or ignore the risks of taking illegal drugs bough from some shady dark web dealer
lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers
There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants
You have the conspiracy theorists spouting crap, but also you have guys that are concerned the vaccine has not been fully signed off and there are many reactions and deaths caused by the vaccine recorded on the gov website not reported in the media for obvious reasons and the long term future effects on the body is unknown as studies not completed . www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.htmlOne of the cases listed of a vaccine in 1976 a thorough review was not carried out until 2003 which concluded risks were present, these vaccines passed tests at the time, these new vaccines have not been passed off, suppose 2048 before we get an official full comprehensive report on the vaccines. I find it funny how some people are so concerned about potential risks of a vaccine, but completely ignore the risks COVID itself poses to them. Or ignore the risks of taking illegal drugs bough from some shady dark web dealer lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by ricardob on Oct 11, 2021 13:53:07 GMT 1, I find it funny how some people are so concerned about potential risks of a vaccine, but completely ignore the risks COVID itself poses to them. Or ignore the risks of taking illegal drugs bough from some shady dark web dealer lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants
I find it funny how some people are so concerned about potential risks of a vaccine, but completely ignore the risks COVID itself poses to them. Or ignore the risks of taking illegal drugs bough from some shady dark web dealer lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants What do you mean by not comparable? Are you saying that there is more risks involved in taking a vaccine developed by a legit company and designed by trained professionals than buying some synthetic drug cooked in someone's basement? |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 13:57:25 GMT 1, lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants What do you mean by not comparable? Are you saying that there is more risks involved in taking a vaccine developed by a legit company and designed by trained professionals than buying some synthetic drug cooked in someone's basement?
Whoโs stupidly taking illegal drugs here in this discussion? More fool them! Itโs illegal and all kinds of crap in these illegal drugs
lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants What do you mean by not comparable? Are you saying that there is more risks involved in taking a vaccine developed by a legit company and designed by trained professionals than buying some synthetic drug cooked in someone's basement? Whoโs stupidly taking illegal drugs here in this discussion? More fool them! Itโs illegal and all kinds of crap in these illegal drugs |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 14:01:50 GMT 1, lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants It's in pretty poor taste to push for the vaccine to be given to migrants when you have previously stated that it is not something you are (currently) willing to take yourself.ย
you canโt force them dumbass but makes sense to offer to these groups rather than ignore them, give them a choice
Same as all the leading nations bought up all the vaccines for their own countries with greed with little thought to the poor then realized variants from the poorer nations that could not afford vaccines would effect their bubbles with variants and now rushing to give them vaccines as it benefits them
But it makes sense with your view, disregard all the border controls where you have to isolate or show vaccinations when travelling and let 1000s in everyday unchecked potentially carrying variants that are known to carry deadlier strains.
Unvaccinated People in their home countries are potentially only circulating strains that are unique to that country that the vaccine can target rather than variants
lol, different argument and not even comparable ,some people are removed from society, at this stage still personal choice is available. Vaccine are above the threshold of acceptable risks based on the limited test results which is still ongoing. If all was passed off and not haphazardly rushed through there would not be this hesitation.think government needs more openness and education rather than scare tactics through the media releases to sway the nay sayers There should be more concerns and emphasis with offering free immunizations to migrant camps globally, these groups are crossing numerous borders, potentially exposed to various variants and bringing into countries that usually have steps to screen out these variants at borders from travelers.currently 1000 illegal migrants crossing dover each day that are known about, many more crossing and once in these groups will not seek medical vaccinations hence would be wise to offer vaccinations at all illegal camps instead of just ignoring the problem and stopping endless waves of reinfections as known some vaccines may not work effectively against new variants It's in pretty poor taste to push for the vaccine to be given to migrants when you have previously stated that it is not something you are (currently) willing to take yourself.ย you canโt force them dumbass but makes sense to offer to these groups rather than ignore them, give them a choice Same as all the leading nations bought up all the vaccines for their own countries with greed with little thought to the poor then realized variants from the poorer nations that could not afford vaccines would effect their bubbles with variants and now rushing to give them vaccines as it benefits them But it makes sense with your view, disregard all the border controls where you have to isolate or show vaccinations when travelling and let 1000s in everyday unchecked potentially carrying variants that are known to carry deadlier strains. Unvaccinated People in their home countries are potentially only circulating strains that are unique to that country that the vaccine can target rather than variants |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by sandinista on Oct 11, 2021 17:57:16 GMT 1, They need to make the vaccine raise your core temperature so you then don't need gas central heating this winter.
They need to make the vaccine raise your core temperature so you then don't need gas central heating this winter.
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 20:24:53 GMT 1, They need to make the vaccine raise your core temperature so you then don't need gas central heating this winter.
Just take a dab of this first thing in the morning and you will provide heat for everyone around you in a 3 meter radius!
And kill the virus at the same time! (Eggheads itโs a joke!)
www.chileseeds.co.uk/shop/16-million-shu-pure-crystal-capsaicin-extract-3/
They need to make the vaccine raise your core temperature so you then don't need gas central heating this winter. Just take a dab of this first thing in the morning and you will provide heat for everyone around you in a 3 meter radius! And kill the virus at the same time! (Eggheads itโs a joke!) www.chileseeds.co.uk/shop/16-million-shu-pure-crystal-capsaicin-extract-3/ |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 22:47:04 GMT 1, Was talking to a friend who's an ER nurse and she pointed out the irony that none of the unvaccinated covid patients coming into the emergency room ever question the long term effects of whatever treatments they are given to help them breathe again.
Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices
Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist
Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice
www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11
Was talking to a friend who's an ER nurse and she pointed out the irony that none of the unvaccinated covid patients coming into the emergency room ever question the long term effects of whatever treatments they are given to help them breathe again. Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11 |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 23:19:02 GMT 1, Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11A genuine question if I may. As someone who I assume has still opted not to receive the vaccine (entirely your right of course, as it should be) how do you feel about the possibke limitations on aspects of your life if/when certain activities become only available to the double vaccinated? Does it feel like you are being forced to receive the vaccine through coercion? Or do you accept those consequences as valid to some degree? Again, not a judgemental question (although I may have judged you for your vaccine stance of course!), just curious to get your viewpoint on restrictions from the other side of the fence.
Just a question
Did you jump on the bandwagon when the homophobic scare mongers came out in 1984 and demanded all the homosexual community use condoms and not mix with others as they might spread the virus?
The bullying and shouting down of people that think differently to you guys here is terrible!divisions have started and prejudice will only get worse unfortunately
At this point, everyone has their free choice, we are not in a nazi state yet and nobody has to justify their own thoughts, discussion yes
Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11A genuine question if I may. As someone who I assume has still opted not to receive the vaccine (entirely your right of course, as it should be) how do you feel about the possibke limitations on aspects of your life if/when certain activities become only available to the double vaccinated? Does it feel like you are being forced to receive the vaccine through coercion? Or do you accept those consequences as valid to some degree? Again, not a judgemental question (although I may have judged you for your vaccine stance of course!), just curious to get your viewpoint on restrictions from the other side of the fence. Just a question Did you jump on the bandwagon when the homophobic scare mongers came out in 1984 and demanded all the homosexual community use condoms and not mix with others as they might spread the virus? The bullying and shouting down of people that think differently to you guys here is terrible!divisions have started and prejudice will only get worse unfortunately At this point, everyone has their free choice, we are not in a nazi state yet and nobody has to justify their own thoughts, discussion yes |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 11, 2021 23:27:25 GMT 1, Just a question Did you jump on the bandwagon when the homophobic scare mongers came out in 1984 and demanded all the homosexual community use condoms and not mix with others as they might spread the virus? The bullying and shouting down of people that think differently to you guys here is terrible!divisions have started and prejudice will only get worse unfortunately At this point, everyone has their free choice, we are not in a nazi state yet I think you may have misread my question. Calm down a little. Unnecessarily defensive, it wasnโt an attack. And to answer your question. No i didnโt. I was 2 in 1984.
You are passive aggressive on this topic, my stance is fine, the panic in some is similar to the aids scare when first hit the media.
Presently it would be unlawful to cause restrictions to people with unvaccinated populations as the vaccine has not been signed off yet, if this did arise a court case would follow I presume, once everything has been signed off and safe there would be no reasonings for any not to have the vaccine
Just a question Did you jump on the bandwagon when the homophobic scare mongers came out in 1984 and demanded all the homosexual community use condoms and not mix with others as they might spread the virus? The bullying and shouting down of people that think differently to you guys here is terrible!divisions have started and prejudice will only get worse unfortunately At this point, everyone has their free choice, we are not in a nazi state yet I think you may have misread my question. Calm down a little. Unnecessarily defensive, it wasnโt an attack. And to answer your question. No i didnโt. I was 2 in 1984. You are passive aggressive on this topic, my stance is fine, the panic in some is similar to the aids scare when first hit the media. Presently it would be unlawful to cause restrictions to people with unvaccinated populations as the vaccine has not been signed off yet, if this did arise a court case would follow I presume, once everything has been signed off and safe there would be no reasonings for any not to have the vaccine |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Cardiff on Oct 11, 2021 23:48:03 GMT 1, Was talking to a friend who's an ER nurse and she pointed out the irony that none of the unvaccinated covid patients coming into the emergency room ever question the long term effects of whatever treatments they are given to help them breathe again. Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11
Was talking to a friend who's an ER nurse and she pointed out the irony that none of the unvaccinated covid patients coming into the emergency room ever question the long term effects of whatever treatments they are given to help them breathe again. Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11...totally your call what you want to do vaccine wise. Best wishes for a happy, healthy life! |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 12, 2021 0:00:04 GMT 1, Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11...totally your call what you want to do vaccine wise. Best wishes for a happy, healthy life!
www.health.harvard.edu/blog/unvaccinated-and-misunderstood-lets-talk-202108252580
digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2871&context=facsch_lawrev
Lol,I do not think I mentioned my personal stance on vaccines but engage in debate and discussion why people
May be hesitant rather than just being labeled negatively
A lot of coercion here by way of demeaning and ridicule. No laws are broken and individuals are entitled to their own choices rather than group mentality
Enjoy your happy life too!
Thatโs treatments to aid not the same as a vaccine with no long term impacts from the aids ? When on deaths bed any aid is taken, cancer treatments have negative effects some people choose to take them to prolong life some people choose not to as of the pain and risks they cause, choices Did the Er nurse check their reasonings for being unvaccinated? May not of had the time to book,not on the list yet in their area, have an immune deficiency, missed their slot, religious reasons, adverse effects to the vaccine, not everyone that has not had the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist Same with assisted death, some people have conditions which can be manageable with medical aid to prolong life but some choose not to, itโs their personal choice www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/18/11...totally your call what you want to do vaccine wise. Best wishes for a happy, healthy life! Lol,I do not think I mentioned my personal stance on vaccines but engage in debate and discussion why people May be hesitant rather than just being labeled negatively A lot of coercion here by way of demeaning and ridicule. No laws are broken and individuals are entitled to their own choices rather than group mentality Enjoy your happy life too! |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Jimini Cricket on Oct 12, 2021 0:27:59 GMT 1, I see dead people.
www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 12, 2021 0:41:16 GMT 1,
No matter your thoughts or how stupid you think these guys are these people have loved ones left behind, with an international community using the internet would you like to see any of your family members displayed in this way ?
No matter your thoughts or how stupid you think these guys are these people have loved ones left behind, with an international community using the internet would you like to see any of your family members displayed in this way ? |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Jimini Cricket on Oct 12, 2021 1:21:34 GMT 1, No matter your thoughts or how stupid you think these guys are these people have loved ones left behind, with an international community using the internet would you like to see any of your family members displayed in this way ?
All posts were made public by the individuals and their close ones. They only have themselves to blame.
No matter your thoughts or how stupid you think these guys are these people have loved ones left behind, with an international community using the internet would you like to see any of your family members displayed in this way ? All posts were made public by the individuals and their close ones. They only have themselves to blame. |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by bob60 on Oct 12, 2021 17:28:11 GMT 1, This thread is the equivalent of a pair of pub bores having a drunken argument.
Get the fuck away from here, this is an art forum, we donโt care what either of you think about anything.
This thread is the equivalent of a pair of pub bores having a drunken argument.
Get the fuck away from here, this is an art forum, we donโt care what either of you think about anything.
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by kalm on Oct 14, 2021 0:11:13 GMT 1, The reason why all these collectible markets have risen is due to Governments paying people to stay home. In the US, people who are used to making $400 a week were receiving $1200 a week to stay home, for a YEAR. Haha good for them
The reason why all these collectible markets have risen is due to Governments paying people to stay home. In the US, people who are used to making $400 a week were receiving $1200 a week to stay home, for a YEAR. Haha good for them
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by cest on Oct 14, 2021 0:52:41 GMT 1, The reason why all these collectible markets have risen is due to Governments paying people to stay home. In the US, people who are used to making $400 a week were receiving $1200 a week to stay home, for a YEAR. Haha good for them
You think 1200 a week really influenced banksy prices?
The reason why all these collectible markets have risen is due to Governments paying people to stay home. In the US, people who are used to making $400 a week were receiving $1200 a week to stay home, for a YEAR. Haha good for them You think 1200 a week really influenced banksy prices? |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Fairxat on Oct 14, 2021 1:00:35 GMT 1, The reason why all these collectible markets have risen is due to Governments paying people to stay home. In the US, people who are used to making $400 a week were receiving $1200 a week to stay home, for a YEAR. Haha good for them You think 1200 a week really influenced banksy prices?
ahh that explains the peak in tatewards Banksy tat auctions!
The reason why all these collectible markets have risen is due to Governments paying people to stay home. In the US, people who are used to making $400 a week were receiving $1200 a week to stay home, for a YEAR. Haha good for them You think 1200 a week really influenced banksy prices? ahh that explains the peak in tatewards Banksy tat auctions! |
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jan 24, 2022 6:58:14 GMT 1, Just remembered this thread.
Yes inflation is going up around the world. Also crypto crashing, share market falling. Predicted interest rate rises for countries in 2022.
Thoughts for 2022, is the shit going to hit the fan?
Just remembered this thread.
Yes inflation is going up around the world. Also crypto crashing, share market falling. Predicted interest rate rises for countries in 2022.
Thoughts for 2022, is the shit going to hit the fan?
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by iamzero on Jan 24, 2022 7:48:07 GMT 1, Then the added potential for conflict with Russiaโฆ how will that affect the price of โstuffโ?
Then the added potential for conflict with Russiaโฆ how will that affect the price of โstuffโ?
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by k13 on Jan 24, 2022 10:12:36 GMT 1, Nice post an vision about the future, but i m not really sure that the money from crypto and NFT will flow into the art or Banksy.
As you can see during the past few days crypto market is purging. Key level for BTC could be a bounce point as institutionnal get a PRU on those levels ( M.Taylor PRU 30.1k / Tesla Elon Musk PRU around 36K - On BTC). Will they defend their PRU or will they let the market going down further (as next step BTC is around 19k). Thats the good question.. if market crash, a lot of liquidation will happened and i do assume that some which are already out are seeking for lower point entries on those level.
Maybe some money will flow in art in order to get less volatility than crypto.
Banksy will at the end in long term scenario continue to grow (if you want to compare with NFT and Crypto Punks or BAYC it s a store of value so i dont think it will drop in value).
To face your other point i dont think crypto & NFT had sucked out money of Banksy imo. It s kind of different type of investors no ? Is there a valuation of the MCap of Banksy work ?
Share with us i'm interested if you ve got some numbers and details !
Cheer pal
Just remembered this thread. Yes inflation is going up around the world. Also crypto crashing, share market falling. Predicted interest rate rises for countries in 2022. Thoughts for 2022, is the shit going to hit the fan? Inflation doesnโt impact everyone equally. The poorer and low income members of society are hit disproportionately the hardest. When the basic items in a weekly food shop have gone up 2-300%, as was recently highlighted in the UK press, it becomes a choice for the family between putting the heating on versus putting food on the table. They are not the people buying art prints, and especially not participating in the Banksy market. The super rich on the other hand should be shielded from inflation as their wealth is usually distributed amongst inflation resistant investments and assets as well as high risk and inflation sensitive investments. For them, if one asset takes a dive (eg stocks), they will have another (eg. real estate, gold) that goes up. Their standard of living wonโt change. In times of high inflation, Blue chip art is a good place as any to park your cash, so I think we will still see the art market continue to buck the rest of the retail market trends. In addition, people with disposable income, who took their art money and have been speculating in crypto and now got their fingers burnt will I suspect return to their money going back into art. The crytpo bull run and NFT craze sucked a lot of money out of the Banksy market last year. I predict that will now return and take Banksy prices back up with it. I for one spent money for the first time in NFTs when I normally would have put that money into a Banksy or other contemporary artist.
Nice post an vision about the future, but i m not really sure that the money from crypto and NFT will flow into the art or Banksy. As you can see during the past few days crypto market is purging. Key level for BTC could be a bounce point as institutionnal get a PRU on those levels ( M.Taylor PRU 30.1k / Tesla Elon Musk PRU around 36K - On BTC). Will they defend their PRU or will they let the market going down further (as next step BTC is around 19k). Thats the good question.. if market crash, a lot of liquidation will happened and i do assume that some which are already out are seeking for lower point entries on those level. Maybe some money will flow in art in order to get less volatility than crypto. Banksy will at the end in long term scenario continue to grow (if you want to compare with NFT and Crypto Punks or BAYC it s a store of value so i dont think it will drop in value). To face your other point i dont think crypto & NFT had sucked out money of Banksy imo. It s kind of different type of investors no ? Is there a valuation of the MCap of Banksy work ? Share with us i'm interested if you ve got some numbers and details ! Cheer pal Just remembered this thread. Yes inflation is going up around the world. Also crypto crashing, share market falling. Predicted interest rate rises for countries in 2022. Thoughts for 2022, is the shit going to hit the fan? Inflation doesnโt impact everyone equally. The poorer and low income members of society are hit disproportionately the hardest. When the basic items in a weekly food shop have gone up 2-300%, as was recently highlighted in the UK press, it becomes a choice for the family between putting the heating on versus putting food on the table. They are not the people buying art prints, and especially not participating in the Banksy market. The super rich on the other hand should be shielded from inflation as their wealth is usually distributed amongst inflation resistant investments and assets as well as high risk and inflation sensitive investments. For them, if one asset takes a dive (eg stocks), they will have another (eg. real estate, gold) that goes up. Their standard of living wonโt change. In times of high inflation, Blue chip art is a good place as any to park your cash, so I think we will still see the art market continue to buck the rest of the retail market trends. In addition, people with disposable income, who took their art money and have been speculating in crypto and now got their fingers burnt will I suspect return to their money going back into art. The crytpo bull run and NFT craze sucked a lot of money out of the Banksy market last year. I predict that will now return and take Banksy prices back up with it. I for one spent money for the first time in NFTs when I normally would have put that money into a Banksy or other contemporary artist. |
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