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Flipping Art • The Debate, by avec art on Aug 11, 2020 21:59:38 GMT 1, sure, but it seems to me that the op simply decided they didn't like the CH print. It wasn't purchased for financial gain. But they thought that as they did now have it, it wouldn't be wrong to make a little profit or return when they sold it. But judging by the post, it appears the buyers wanted to make him feel that it is wrong to even consider that. I think you call this the hussle
sure, but it seems to me that the op simply decided they didn't like the CH print. It wasn't purchased for financial gain. But they thought that as they did now have it, it wouldn't be wrong to make a little profit or return when they sold it. But judging by the post, it appears the buyers wanted to make him feel that it is wrong to even consider that. I think you call this the hussle
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by JockoLad on Aug 11, 2020 22:00:28 GMT 1, Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩
You could have considered the fact that Anne Frank was only 15 at the time of her death.
Personally, I’m not a fan of sexual innuendo involving children. Less so when the child involved in the ‘joke‘ suffered incomprehensibly and was latterly killed.
I appreciate that it was an attempt at humour but it fell flat in this instance.
Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩 You could have considered the fact that Anne Frank was only 15 at the time of her death. Personally, I’m not a fan of sexual innuendo involving children. Less so when the child involved in the ‘joke‘ suffered incomprehensibly and was latterly killed. I appreciate that it was an attempt at humour but it fell flat in this instance. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Dive Jedi on Aug 11, 2020 22:00:52 GMT 1, Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩
Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩 wow...... |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by JockoLad on Aug 11, 2020 22:15:32 GMT 1, You could have considered the fact that Anne Frank was only 15 at the time of her death. Personally, I’m not a fan of sexual innuendo involving children. Less so when the child involved in the ‘joke‘ suffered incomprehensibly and was latterly killed. I appreciate that it was an attempt at humour but it fell flat in this instance. 
Enlighten me, what do you mean?
You could have considered the fact that Anne Frank was only 15 at the time of her death. Personally, I’m not a fan of sexual innuendo involving children. Less so when the child involved in the ‘joke‘ suffered incomprehensibly and was latterly killed. I appreciate that it was an attempt at humour but it fell flat in this instance. Enlighten me, what do you mean? |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Coach on Aug 11, 2020 22:20:46 GMT 1, A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t!
For me it’s about intention when buying.
If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping.
Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo.
My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out.
My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like.
Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this.
In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays.
And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing.
Good luck with your sale.
A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! For me it’s about intention when buying. If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping. Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo. My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out. My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like. Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this. In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays. And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing. Good luck with your sale. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by .dappy on Aug 11, 2020 22:42:22 GMT 1, Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩
... Goodwin's Law ... 
Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩 ... Goodwin's Law ... |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 22:48:35 GMT 1, A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! For me it’s about intention when buying. If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping. Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo. My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out. My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like. Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this. In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays. And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing. Good luck with your sale.
Agreed. This has been done to death but here is the definition of flipping:
“Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling it for profit.”
I think the important word here is ‘quickly.’ People try to drag up the Banksy argument but the majority of people who sell their Bansky’s have owned them for 5/10/15 years. That by definition is not flipping.
Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of brokers on here who will buy a Banksy for 15k and sell it for 20k a month later which very much puts them in the flipping camp but let’s not drag people who spent £75 15 years ago into the argument.
Flippers are going to flip and in the last few years I’ve actually been able to accept that it’s a big part of art and this forum, but ultimately this is a forum, so if someone who is looking to profit by being speedier at checkouts then the majority of people on here wants to sell, then they need to have thick enough skin to take a bit of s#%t when hawking their items on here to avoid eBay fees.
(Just my 2 cents. I have no clue what the OP was ranting about so have no horse in that race.)
A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! For me it’s about intention when buying. If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping. Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo. My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out. My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like. Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this. In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays. And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing. Good luck with your sale. Agreed. This has been done to death but here is the definition of flipping: “Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling it for profit.” I think the important word here is ‘quickly.’ People try to drag up the Banksy argument but the majority of people who sell their Bansky’s have owned them for 5/10/15 years. That by definition is not flipping. Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of brokers on here who will buy a Banksy for 15k and sell it for 20k a month later which very much puts them in the flipping camp but let’s not drag people who spent £75 15 years ago into the argument. Flippers are going to flip and in the last few years I’ve actually been able to accept that it’s a big part of art and this forum, but ultimately this is a forum, so if someone who is looking to profit by being speedier at checkouts then the majority of people on here wants to sell, then they need to have thick enough skin to take a bit of s#%t when hawking their items on here to avoid eBay fees. (Just my 2 cents. I have no clue what the OP was ranting about so have no horse in that race.) |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Coach on Aug 11, 2020 23:00:05 GMT 1, For me it’s about intention when buying. If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping. Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo. My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out. My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like. Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this. In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays. And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing. Good luck with your sale. Agreed. This has been done to death but here is the definition of flipping: “Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling it for profit.” I think the important word here is ‘quickly.’ People try to drag up the Banksy argument but the majority of people who sell their Bansky’s have owned them for 5/10/15 years. That by definition is not flipping. Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of brokers on here who will buy a Banksy for 15k and sell it for 20k a month later which very much puts them in the flipping camp but let’s not drag people who spent £75 15 years ago into the argument. Flippers are going to flip and in the last few years I’ve actually been able to accept that it’s a big part of art and this forum, but ultimately this is a forum, so if someone who is looking to profit by being speedier at checkouts then the majority of people on here wants to sell, then they need to have thick enough skin to take a bit of s#%t when hawking their items on here to avoid eBay fees. (Just my 2 cents. I have no clue what the OP was ranting about so have no horse in that race.)
I only differ from you in so far as I tend to think intention is most relevant. Whether something is bought with the sole intention of selling quickly for a profit. Sometimes people buy with the intention of keeping, but cannot, perhaps because they are unhappy with what it looks like in person, perhaps because of a change of circumstances et cetera. Not flipping in my book.
Once again, though, this may no longer be the prevalent view, I accept.
For me it’s about intention when buying. If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping. Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo. My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out. My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like. Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this. In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays. And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing. Good luck with your sale. Agreed. This has been done to death but here is the definition of flipping: “Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling it for profit.” I think the important word here is ‘quickly.’ People try to drag up the Banksy argument but the majority of people who sell their Bansky’s have owned them for 5/10/15 years. That by definition is not flipping. Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of brokers on here who will buy a Banksy for 15k and sell it for 20k a month later which very much puts them in the flipping camp but let’s not drag people who spent £75 15 years ago into the argument. Flippers are going to flip and in the last few years I’ve actually been able to accept that it’s a big part of art and this forum, but ultimately this is a forum, so if someone who is looking to profit by being speedier at checkouts then the majority of people on here wants to sell, then they need to have thick enough skin to take a bit of s#%t when hawking their items on here to avoid eBay fees. (Just my 2 cents. I have no clue what the OP was ranting about so have no horse in that race.) I only differ from you in so far as I tend to think intention is most relevant. Whether something is bought with the sole intention of selling quickly for a profit. Sometimes people buy with the intention of keeping, but cannot, perhaps because they are unhappy with what it looks like in person, perhaps because of a change of circumstances et cetera. Not flipping in my book. Once again, though, this may no longer be the prevalent view, I accept. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by ca on Aug 11, 2020 23:05:55 GMT 1, this guy's issue is not even with flipping, he simply has no clue of the market, CH has been pricing his prints high and they dont flip or gain much value. The older stuff tends to be more popular, the recent prints have been meh
this guy's issue is not even with flipping, he simply has no clue of the market, CH has been pricing his prints high and they dont flip or gain much value. The older stuff tends to be more popular, the recent prints have been meh
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 23:13:39 GMT 1, Agreed. This has been done to death but here is the definition of flipping: “Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling it for profit.” I think the important word here is ‘quickly.’ People try to drag up the Banksy argument but the majority of people who sell their Bansky’s have owned them for 5/10/15 years. That by definition is not flipping. Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of brokers on here who will buy a Banksy for 15k and sell it for 20k a month later which very much puts them in the flipping camp but let’s not drag people who spent £75 15 years ago into the argument. Flippers are going to flip and in the last few years I’ve actually been able to accept that it’s a big part of art and this forum, but ultimately this is a forum, so if someone who is looking to profit by being speedier at checkouts then the majority of people on here wants to sell, then they need to have thick enough skin to take a bit of s#%t when hawking their items on here to avoid eBay fees. (Just my 2 cents. I have no clue what the OP was ranting about so have no horse in that race.) I only differ from you in so far as I tend to think intention is most relevant. Whether something is bought with the sole intention of selling quickly for a profit. Sometimes people buy with the intention of keeping, but cannot, perhaps because they are unhappy with what it looks like in person, perhaps because of a change of circumstances et cetera. Not flipping in my book. Once again, though, this may no longer be the prevalent view, I accept.
Of course speed can’t be the only mitigating factor and I think intention is probably key here. This is why we see a lot of weakly veiled excuses when people decide to flip a print on here as they want to maintain some level of moral dignity.
Anyhow I’m off to bed. Glad the slightly bizarre original post opened up a decent discussion. If only there was more of it on this forum.
Agreed. This has been done to death but here is the definition of flipping: “Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling it for profit.” I think the important word here is ‘quickly.’ People try to drag up the Banksy argument but the majority of people who sell their Bansky’s have owned them for 5/10/15 years. That by definition is not flipping. Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of brokers on here who will buy a Banksy for 15k and sell it for 20k a month later which very much puts them in the flipping camp but let’s not drag people who spent £75 15 years ago into the argument. Flippers are going to flip and in the last few years I’ve actually been able to accept that it’s a big part of art and this forum, but ultimately this is a forum, so if someone who is looking to profit by being speedier at checkouts then the majority of people on here wants to sell, then they need to have thick enough skin to take a bit of s#%t when hawking their items on here to avoid eBay fees. (Just my 2 cents. I have no clue what the OP was ranting about so have no horse in that race.) I only differ from you in so far as I tend to think intention is most relevant. Whether something is bought with the sole intention of selling quickly for a profit. Sometimes people buy with the intention of keeping, but cannot, perhaps because they are unhappy with what it looks like in person, perhaps because of a change of circumstances et cetera. Not flipping in my book. Once again, though, this may no longer be the prevalent view, I accept. Of course speed can’t be the only mitigating factor and I think intention is probably key here. This is why we see a lot of weakly veiled excuses when people decide to flip a print on here as they want to maintain some level of moral dignity. Anyhow I’m off to bed. Glad the slightly bizarre original post opened up a decent discussion. If only there was more of it on this forum. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Jaylove on Aug 11, 2020 23:16:38 GMT 1, A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! For me it’s about intention when buying. If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping. Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo. My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out. My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like. Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this. In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays. And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing. Good luck with your sale.
If you're going to flip, put it on ebay and pay the damn fees. Don't do it here or other similar communities.
A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! For me it’s about intention when buying. If you bought something that you now don’t like, sell it for market value, and that’s not flipping. Your Banksys you will not sell for less than market value of course. No one in their right mind would expect you to. Well done buying at source so early, by the way. Bravo. My dislike (and perhaps shared by others) is people buying with the sole intention of selling on quickly at a profit, when its done here. That’s parasitical and rather running other collectors’ nose in it, if they missed out. My view is that no one will stop people from flipping as greed is a common trait. Merely that out of respect for our community that should not be done on here, but rather taken to eBay or the like. Now, many disagree with me, and that’s fine. My view may well now be a minority one, so I don’t tend to mention it much now, save when there is a specific discussion about it, like this. In any event it’s not as bad as cynical hyping which is so prevalent here nowadays. And that’s before even getting to the lack of civility on this site, which I still find astonishing. Good luck with your sale. If you're going to flip, put it on ebay and pay the damn fees. Don't do it here or other similar communities. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Coach on Aug 11, 2020 23:25:42 GMT 1, I only differ from you in so far as I tend to think intention is most relevant. Whether something is bought with the sole intention of selling quickly for a profit. Sometimes people buy with the intention of keeping, but cannot, perhaps because they are unhappy with what it looks like in person, perhaps because of a change of circumstances et cetera. Not flipping in my book. Once again, though, this may no longer be the prevalent view, I accept. Of course speed can’t be the only mitigating factor and I think intention is probably key here. This is why we see a lot of weakly veiled excuses when people decide to flip a print on here as they want to maintain some level of moral dignity. Anyhow I’m off to bed. Glad the slightly bizarre original post opened up a decent discussion. If only there was more of it on this forum.
Of course you are right. People will make things up. I tend to prefer to believe what people say. Eventually people’s true nature will out. I would rather that than assume people are being untruthful.
I only differ from you in so far as I tend to think intention is most relevant. Whether something is bought with the sole intention of selling quickly for a profit. Sometimes people buy with the intention of keeping, but cannot, perhaps because they are unhappy with what it looks like in person, perhaps because of a change of circumstances et cetera. Not flipping in my book. Once again, though, this may no longer be the prevalent view, I accept. Of course speed can’t be the only mitigating factor and I think intention is probably key here. This is why we see a lot of weakly veiled excuses when people decide to flip a print on here as they want to maintain some level of moral dignity. Anyhow I’m off to bed. Glad the slightly bizarre original post opened up a decent discussion. If only there was more of it on this forum. Of course you are right. People will make things up. I tend to prefer to believe what people say. Eventually people’s true nature will out. I would rather that than assume people are being untruthful. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by nobokov on Aug 12, 2020 0:01:01 GMT 1, A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t!
A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! It's just flippers trying to harass their competitors and corner the market. Don't believe the UAA art puritanicals for one second. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Coach on Aug 12, 2020 0:16:07 GMT 1, A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! It's just flippers trying to harass their competitors and corner the market. Don't believe the UAA art puritanicals for one second.
Ok, I’ll bite. Assuming I’m one of the puritanicals, what part of what I’ve said do you think is untrue?
A many a year ago..... I bought art when it was cheap, and when I mean cheap, I bought Banksy works for £60, invaders for a few pounds etc... I recently bought a Connor Harrington, received and didn’t like it. I am being asked how much I am selling it for and people Want it at the probe I paid for it... the Banksy pieces I have in my loft I don’t lie, that’s worth over £100k each, do you want me to sell them at price too? What is the difference?? For fucks sake, stop what you are doing, reflect on who you are, and get a life. Rant over! Jealous c**t! It's just flippers trying to harass their competitors and corner the market. Don't believe the UAA art puritanicals for one second. Ok, I’ll bite. Assuming I’m one of the puritanicals, what part of what I’ve said do you think is untrue? |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by artnow on Aug 12, 2020 1:00:02 GMT 1, Is this the thread for Banksy prints at cost?
Is this the thread for Banksy prints at cost?
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by nobokov on Aug 12, 2020 1:07:03 GMT 1, It's just flippers trying to harass their competitors and corner the market. Don't believe the UAA art puritanicals for one second. Ok, I’ll bite. Assuming I’m one of the puritanicals, what part of what I’ve said do you think is untrue?
Not you Coach, you might be the only real purist on here.
It's just flippers trying to harass their competitors and corner the market. Don't believe the UAA art puritanicals for one second. Ok, I’ll bite. Assuming I’m one of the puritanicals, what part of what I’ve said do you think is untrue? Not you Coach, you might be the only real purist on here. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Coach on Aug 12, 2020 1:17:16 GMT 1, Ok, I’ll bite. Assuming I’m one of the puritanicals, what part of what I’ve said do you think is untrue? Not you Coach, you might be the only real purist on here.
My apologies for my misunderstanding. I was initially surprised as I usually enjoy reading your posts.
I should probably bow out of this discussion now as I think I’ve said all I can.
I hope that if nothing else the OP is satisfied that he or she started a for the most part reasonable debate.
Cheers and goodnight.
Ok, I’ll bite. Assuming I’m one of the puritanicals, what part of what I’ve said do you think is untrue? Not you Coach, you might be the only real purist on here. My apologies for my misunderstanding. I was initially surprised as I usually enjoy reading your posts. I should probably bow out of this discussion now as I think I’ve said all I can. I hope that if nothing else the OP is satisfied that he or she started a for the most part reasonable debate. Cheers and goodnight. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by tab1 on Aug 12, 2020 1:24:28 GMT 1, It's just flippers trying to harass their competitors and corner the market. Don't believe the UAA art puritanicals for one second. Preach. At the end of the day, the only artists that are popping on here are the ones that continue to appreciate in value. The modern art market is the exciting place that it is thanks to sharks like Gagosian. Most of the discussion around art is about its value, perceived value or potential future value. Of course their is a minority that truly don’t care about the money. Half of those are genuine and the other half are champagne socialists that enjoy the smell of their own farts and inherited half of daddy’s estate in Shropshire - you know the types, “love going to notty carnival” but shudder at the thought of living amongst working class brown people.
It's just flippers trying to harass their competitors and corner the market. Don't believe the UAA art puritanicals for one second. Preach. At the end of the day, the only artists that are popping on here are the ones that continue to appreciate in value. The modern art market is the exciting place that it is thanks to sharks like Gagosian. Most of the discussion around art is about its value, perceived value or potential future value. Of course their is a minority that truly don’t care about the money. Half of those are genuine and the other half are champagne socialists that enjoy the smell of their own farts and inherited half of daddy’s estate in Shropshire - you know the types, “love going to notty carnival” but shudder at the thought of living amongst working class brown people. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by tab1 on Aug 12, 2020 1:24:44 GMT 1, Preach. At the end of the day, the only artists that are popping on here are the ones that continue to appreciate in value. The modern art market is the exciting place that it is thanks to sharks like Gagosian. Most of the discussion around art is about its value, perceived value or potential future value. Of course their is a minority that truly don’t care about the money. Half of those are genuine and the other half are champagne socialists that enjoy the smell of their own farts and inherited half of daddy’s estate in Shropshire - you know the types, “love going to notty carnival” but shudder at the thought of living amongst working class brown people.
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Preach. At the end of the day, the only artists that are popping on here are the ones that continue to appreciate in value. The modern art market is the exciting place that it is thanks to sharks like Gagosian. Most of the discussion around art is about its value, perceived value or potential future value. Of course their is a minority that truly don’t care about the money. Half of those are genuine and the other half are champagne socialists that enjoy the smell of their own farts and inherited half of daddy’s estate in Shropshire - you know the types, “love going to notty carnival” but shudder at the thought of living amongst working class brown people. 😑 |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Hairbland on Aug 12, 2020 5:02:08 GMT 1, Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩 ... Goodwin's Law ...
Godwin’s Law. Gonna go all internet-witty gotta spell it right. Cheers!
Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩 ... Goodwin's Law ... Godwin’s Law. Gonna go all internet-witty gotta spell it right. Cheers! |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Charlesworth on Aug 12, 2020 6:26:35 GMT 1,
Spelling Nazi!!! 
... Goodwin's Law ... Godwin’s Law. Gonna go all internet-witty gotta spell it right. Cheers!
Spelling Nazi!!! ... Goodwin's Law ... Godwin’s Law. Gonna go all internet-witty gotta spell it right. Cheers! |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by nobokov on Aug 12, 2020 6:29:02 GMT 1, Not you Coach, you might be the only real purist on here. My apologies for my misunderstanding. I was initially surprised as I usually enjoy reading your posts. I should probably bow out of this discussion now as I think I’ve said all I can. I hope that if nothing else the OP is satisfied that he or she started a for the most part reasonable debate. Cheers and goodnight.
Not you Coach, you might be the only real purist on here. My apologies for my misunderstanding. I was initially surprised as I usually enjoy reading your posts. I should probably bow out of this discussion now as I think I’ve said all I can. I hope that if nothing else the OP is satisfied that he or she started a for the most part reasonable debate. Cheers and goodnight. No apologies necessary. I should've been clearer and I'm probably a bit more ill-tempered on here these days, maybe because of the extended house arrest. |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 8:14:19 GMT 1, Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩 You could have considered the fact that Anne Frank was only 15 at the time of her death. Personally, I’m not a fan of sexual innuendo involving children. Less so when the child involved in the ‘joke‘ suffered incomprehensibly and was latterly killed. I appreciate that it was an attempt at humour but it fell flat in this instance.
You read so much more into this than there was, but apologies if any offence caused. Not my intention obviously.
Have a great day
Don’t tell me . You are going to remove any thought of a simple loft joke. Turn it into a nazi thing and ruin everything.., 🤦🏼♂️ Go paint a shit shark Jedi 😩 You could have considered the fact that Anne Frank was only 15 at the time of her death. Personally, I’m not a fan of sexual innuendo involving children. Less so when the child involved in the ‘joke‘ suffered incomprehensibly and was latterly killed. I appreciate that it was an attempt at humour but it fell flat in this instance. You read so much more into this than there was, but apologies if any offence caused. Not my intention obviously. Have a great day |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Hairbland on Aug 12, 2020 23:53:18 GMT 1, I think one of my last prints says it all... 
I think one of my last prints says it all... |
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by yoss on Apr 20, 2021 19:28:56 GMT 1,
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by LJCal on Apr 20, 2021 19:37:10 GMT 1, Perhaps if his art wasn't utter dogshit people wouldn't flip it, the fact that he thinks he has a legacy made me chuckle. Also not quite sure his probiem with Europeans and Asians as they pretty much make up his entite market.
Perhaps if his art wasn't utter dogshit people wouldn't flip it, the fact that he thinks he has a legacy made me chuckle. Also not quite sure his probiem with Europeans and Asians as they pretty much make up his entite market.
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by yoss on Apr 20, 2021 20:18:22 GMT 1, But I think he was talking about black artists in general, not just himself...
But I think he was talking about black artists in general, not just himself...
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by qest on Apr 20, 2021 20:20:29 GMT 1, It originated from someone else.
It originated from someone else.
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by sgolby on Apr 20, 2021 20:41:26 GMT 1, There is an enormously wide berth between Basil Kinkaid and Hebru Brantly, in terms of their audience. Basil Kinkaid wrote this originally, and is not wrong. However the ecosystem in the art world is vastly different than that in other forms of artistic expression or entertainment. Also, artists like Hebru Brantly, while talented in their own way, would be no where without the flippers and auction houses.
In fact I would argue that all of the hype and attention due to the retail market is allowing a platform for many more young black artists to make a name for themselves. There is no “Black,” artistic movement per se, there are Black artists working within movements, so the coercive race based forces that exist in music or Athletics are not there. What I mean by that is there is no entrenched white gatekeeper class that profits to the detriment of those artists. There is no record label/A&R class or team owner class whereby the profit split is 80/20 in art.
I happen to agree with his sentiment on selling to collectors and not profiteers. However in all reality practicing artists must strike a delicate balance between the two.
There is an enormously wide berth between Basil Kinkaid and Hebru Brantly, in terms of their audience. Basil Kinkaid wrote this originally, and is not wrong. However the ecosystem in the art world is vastly different than that in other forms of artistic expression or entertainment. Also, artists like Hebru Brantly, while talented in their own way, would be no where without the flippers and auction houses.
In fact I would argue that all of the hype and attention due to the retail market is allowing a platform for many more young black artists to make a name for themselves. There is no “Black,” artistic movement per se, there are Black artists working within movements, so the coercive race based forces that exist in music or Athletics are not there. What I mean by that is there is no entrenched white gatekeeper class that profits to the detriment of those artists. There is no record label/A&R class or team owner class whereby the profit split is 80/20 in art.
I happen to agree with his sentiment on selling to collectors and not profiteers. However in all reality practicing artists must strike a delicate balance between the two.
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Flipping Art • The Debate, by Sunny Garcia on Apr 20, 2021 21:38:30 GMT 1, Yeah not his quote either. Basil Kincaid posted it, and others have been re-posting.
Yeah not his quote either. Basil Kincaid posted it, and others have been re-posting.
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