Flipping Art • The Debate, by eyectopus on Nov 25, 2022 10:37:06 GMT 1,

Nov 25, 2022 1:02:33 GMT 1 Charlie Bronson said:

Nov 24, 2022 18:55:37 GMT 1 Meskell said:

It baffles me whenever I see that seasoned collectors have stored posters in their tubes. I'd purchase a dinged poster before I'd buy one that has been sitting in a tube for years. More baffling is how some of them use this as a selling point. "Only removed to take pictures!"

Not to sound like a dick, but it’s a bunch of shit I really don’t care about…Brainwash, Kawasaki, Keyes, some Fairey; not really worried about it. I bought every Brainwash that he released in his first two years of being an “artist”, around 2008/2009. His prints were around $100 then. Worth a lot more now, but I’m not bothered with the idea of keeping them in their tubes; same thing with my old Faireys etc.

I have taken just a few pieces that sat in their tubes for years, to frame up, and I haven’t seen any paper damage, cracking etc. I take the piece out of the tube, and let it sit untouched for a few weeks, then slowly unfold it bit by bit every few days, until it’s ready as it’ll ever be to get framed(it never lays flat without weights). Maybe I’ve been lucky, but I haven’t seen any visible damage to any of the ones I’ve done that with. I’m sure there is some damage if you look at the paper under a microscope, but I’m not worried about it. 

I should have mentioned in my post that I was referring to the "Only removed to take pictures" sales descriptions and not how collectors treat their tubed pieces in general. I have purchased prints with this description and found that they had roll marks and other signs of not being handled right.

I have also purchased some untouched tubed prints where stock photos were used. There are risks involved but I would rather this than the print being unrolled quickly to be photographed and then put in a tube.

The method I use is to put the print around a rolled piece of a foam mat., at this point the print is only very slightly unwound. Every few days i fill the inside of the foam mat to unwind it with the print still wrapped around it, over time it opens the print enough put between sheets for flattening. Probably overkill but seems to do the job. I use glassine between the print and all other materials.

Nov 25, 2022 1:02:33 GMT 1 Charlie Bronson said:

Nov 24, 2022 18:55:37 GMT 1 Meskell said:

It baffles me whenever I see that seasoned collectors have stored posters in their tubes. I'd purchase a dinged poster before I'd buy one that has been sitting in a tube for years. More baffling is how some of them use this as a selling point. "Only removed to take pictures!"

Not to sound like a dick, but it’s a bunch of shit I really don’t care about…Brainwash, Kawasaki, Keyes, some Fairey; not really worried about it. I bought every Brainwash that he released in his first two years of being an “artist”, around 2008/2009. His prints were around $100 then. Worth a lot more now, but I’m not bothered with the idea of keeping them in their tubes; same thing with my old Faireys etc.

I have taken just a few pieces that sat in their tubes for years, to frame up, and I haven’t seen any paper damage, cracking etc. I take the piece out of the tube, and let it sit untouched for a few weeks, then slowly unfold it bit by bit every few days, until it’s ready as it’ll ever be to get framed(it never lays flat without weights). Maybe I’ve been lucky, but I haven’t seen any visible damage to any of the ones I’ve done that with. I’m sure there is some damage if you look at the paper under a microscope, but I’m not worried about it. 

I should have mentioned in my post that I was referring to the "Only removed to take pictures" sales descriptions and not how collectors treat their tubed pieces in general. I have purchased prints with this description and found that they had roll marks and other signs of not being handled right.

I have also purchased some untouched tubed prints where stock photos were used. There are risks involved but I would rather this than the print being unrolled quickly to be photographed and then put in a tube.

The method I use is to put the print around a rolled piece of a foam mat., at this point the print is only very slightly unwound. Every few days i fill the inside of the foam mat to unwind it with the print still wrapped around it, over time it opens the print enough put between sheets for flattening. Probably overkill but seems to do the job. I use glassine between the print and all other materials.