I flip to fund my coke habit, dont get me very far though :-)

i flipped a dface collage, i dont regret it one bit, i have a nice vw black 2003 1.6s golf now..
bit of paper or car...

Everyone flips eventually don't they?

I was very unlucky this year, along with probably thousands of others, to miss out on both Banksy releases. So with this in mind how do i obtain what i missed out on? Well there are two possible options

The first involves me shelling out a four grand to people that insist...' reason for sale is due to finance issues' As mentioned by many other members this must be utter rubbish as they had the money to shell out in the first place!

The second is to myself obtain a print also considered lucrative, at a future date, in the hope that i can sell for an inflated price or indeed swap.

What does this make me?

Is it considered flipping to buy a print, that i don't particulary like in order to fund that of one i missed out on? This maybe a bit of a f**ked up way of doing things but feel that the current market dictates this to me. It somewhat saddens me to think that popularity forces the hand.

Let the past go - Forget considering buying stuff you don't want to flip and look for new artists producing exciting work at reasonable prices and enjoy their work rather than chase a name. Only my opinion and not meant to offend anyone at this time of peace.

I adopted this approach a couple of years ago and have now given up chasing Mr B and for that matter Mr W and am enjoying great art from a range of other artist including Ripper1331, K-Guy, Mau Mau, Copyright, Ria Hill, Will St Leger to name a few.

For the price of a Mr B print you could own a wonderful original from any of these artists. Just a thought. Also may remove some of the hype and high prices associated with some of the big names so in long term discourage the flippers.

If you buy offf the secondary market within days, even months of release then you are simply fuelling the flippers and lining their pockets, leaving them to brag to their mates about th print they bought for £350 and sold for £2000 - Easy Money! Next thing you know their mates are in on the act and it spirals so that you get no chance of bagging a new release.

I realize that if you don't buy it then someone will, but I for one can't live with the thought that I put the smile on one of these parasites faces!

It's just a piece of paper, bollocks to them, leave it a couple of years, buy or swap with someone who has enjoyed the piece on their wall but is now tired of it or needing to make space. Who know's in the meantime you might be lucky and bag a new release registered in your own name!!

Plenty of other great artists out there selling prints for sensible money with great images, even original works at a fraction of the cost or the same price as a multiple Banksy image!

One last thing, I love CWSB, one day I will get a signed copy, but for now I have a great CWSB canvas that cost only £65 that gives me the image and is great to look at. I don't condone copying Banksy work, but Banksy himself promotes it and even my mother has a few 'Constables' on her wall!!!!

Its all in the title ;-)

It's your money do what you want with it and don't listen to people you have never even met before.

I like guy denning's work but not enough to purchase an original (i got the bristol series which was great value and some lovely prints in there). I'd looked at the 12daysofxmas site and they had some original sketches there which were a good price.

As various people have said on here for the 2.5k that it would cost to get a nola or vlh on the 2ndary market you could get some amazing originals by some other established artists, and even for the £400 odd quid these prints were originally you could by some nice stuff by up and coming artists.

While i would love a signed banksy print again i don't think that i will ever get one - i have been unlucky at pow which i have no problem with, but i just can't accept paying secondary prices for them when there is so much other great art available for the same cost.

A banksy is a banksy, and i'd love one but ultimately it is an idea he's had, painted/sketched/stencilled, someone else has printed and he's signed it. In contrast i love the idea that with originals that the artist has spent hours, possibly days working on a piece rather than just signing it.

I'd wager that very few of us are...how many forum members bowled around London at stupid o'clock looking for a Neate print - 100K a year and you don't do that.

Personally think that just 'cos the economy would appear to have gone to shit isn't a better excuse for a flip now that it was 18 months ago but it's also refreshing to see that there's very little 'profit' in anything apart from Banksy nowadays which gives a better market place for swapping something you've owned for a bit and got tired of for whatever reason and not getting 'bent over' on the next piece you want.

To be honest though you gotta be damned lucky to ever get one print on drop, let alone get one a second time round.
Repeat flipping of banksy prints by the same people surely can't be happening on he scale of say Shepard Fairey prints. Therefore this "sh*t list" cant be that long? Granted it does'nt necessarily include just Banksy print flippers but any artist on there roster at POW.

Could be wrong but think is a valid point.

Its supply and demand and the only way to stop it is for Mr Banksy to do a print release of 10000 on his next print, I think then you would find only people that wanted the print would bother. More would be on walls rather than eBay!!!

The solution is in the artist hands not the flippers

If it was a signed laugh now in a different colourway im sure most would make the walls. Its all about image.