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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by gus on May 24, 2023 20:51:59 GMT 1, Really do look stunning. And big.
Added banana for scale.
Really do look stunning. And big. Added banana for scale. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Acme Thunderer on May 24, 2023 21:46:36 GMT 1, I see that Tate Ward already have a couple of these at their next auction.
These must have been consigned before delivery unless they are ones that Tate Ward bought themselves. Very sus!
I see that Tate Ward already have a couple of these at their next auction.
These must have been consigned before delivery unless they are ones that Tate Ward bought themselves. Very sus!
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Art lover lover on May 25, 2023 0:31:24 GMT 1, drbf
Box weight is about 17kg including the print.
Box dimensions are about 118cm x 115cm x 9cm.
And whatโs inside is gorgeous.
drbfBox weight is about 17kg including the print. Box dimensions are about 118cm x 115cm x 9cm. And whatโs inside is gorgeous.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by gus on May 25, 2023 1:34:42 GMT 1, Is there anywhere thats a good reference for hanging stuff in general?
A site or a thread here?
Have a few things I'm wanting to hang, one very heavy, others just normal stuff, but to be honest I have no clue how to hang stuff (which tbh is quite embarrassing I know). So wondering if there is a place with good info on this.
Sorry for off topic post btw.
Is there anywhere thats a good reference for hanging stuff in general? A site or a thread here? Have a few things I'm wanting to hang, one very heavy, others just normal stuff, but to be honest I have no clue how to hang stuff (which tbh is quite embarrassing I know). So wondering if there is a place with good info on this. Sorry for off topic post btw. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on May 25, 2023 9:36:04 GMT 1, Hi folks,
I did a little market review :
* 12 currently for sale on ebay
* 4 currently for sale on Leboncoin (France main website for ads)
* Firgures to be compared to total edition of 2400
* For those asking fair prices (4500 - 6000โฌ), level of sales seems quiet strong
* Last sale on ebay at 4850
* Very few Country Life were offered and were sold very quickly. No remaining Country Life for sale as of today
* Marilyn and Camo are most of the offers (not a surprise given the edition numbers)
What I think of this :
* Most of the works were bought by collectors (not a surprise, already said here but confirmed by these numbers)
* If you buy to sell, trying to figure out what will be the most desirable for future buyers, you end up with a camo or a Marilyn which, on the short term, will be the hardest to sell
* But I guess all will do well on the long term. Even these ones are not so numerous
* I don't know how many are still to be delivered but I guess that there are not so many (Discord, this forum...). Still, might represent a bias for this analysis
* Seems that works in the flesh are very appreciated by those who bought some, including myself. Might remain into first time buyers collection for a long time
* Selling price are quiet solid, so little time after the drop. But not crazy speculation too
--> To me, this is what a sucessful release of an edition should look like 4 months after the drop
Hi folks, I did a little market review : * 12 currently for sale on ebay * 4 currently for sale on Leboncoin (France main website for ads)
* Firgures to be compared to total edition of 2400
* For those asking fair prices (4500 - 6000โฌ), level of sales seems quiet strong * Last sale on ebay at 4850 * Very few Country Life were offered and were sold very quickly. No remaining Country Life for sale as of today * Marilyn and Camo are most of the offers (not a surprise given the edition numbers) What I think of this : * Most of the works were bought by collectors (not a surprise, already said here but confirmed by these numbers) * If you buy to sell, trying to figure out what will be the most desirable for future buyers, you end up with a camo or a Marilyn which, on the short term, will be the hardest to sell * But I guess all will do well on the long term. Even these ones are not so numerous * I don't know how many are still to be delivered but I guess that there are not so many (Discord, this forum...). Still, might represent a bias for this analysis * Seems that works in the flesh are very appreciated by those who bought some, including myself. Might remain into first time buyers collection for a long time * Selling price are quiet solid, so little time after the drop. But not crazy speculation too
--> To me, this is what a sucessful release of an edition should look like 4 months after the drop
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by topper on May 25, 2023 9:41:33 GMT 1, Is there anywhere thats a good reference for hanging stuff in general? A site or a thread here? Have a few things I'm wanting to hang, one very heavy, others just normal stuff, but to be honest I have no clue how to hang stuff (which tbh is quite embarrassing I know). So wondering if there is a place with good info on this. Sorry for off topic post btw.
Is there anywhere thats a good reference for hanging stuff in general? A site or a thread here? Have a few things I'm wanting to hang, one very heavy, others just normal stuff, but to be honest I have no clue how to hang stuff (which tbh is quite embarrassing I know). So wondering if there is a place with good info on this. Sorry for off topic post btw. It's all about what you are fixing to (ie plasterboard, brick, timber etc) Once you know that, and an approximate weight a quick google search will do it. Plasterboard is the one to watch but will still take most pieces. Feel free to PM me if you have any issues or want any advice. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Newar on May 25, 2023 9:48:08 GMT 1, Really do look stunning. And big. Added banana for scale. 
Really do look stunning. And big. Added banana for scale. Are the cubes the same size than a rubiks ? love that banana touch |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by damo on May 25, 2023 11:50:27 GMT 1, Pretty much, couple of mm out (versus my cube at any rate)
Pretty much, couple of mm out (versus my cube at any rate) |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on May 25, 2023 15:40:36 GMT 1, I see that Tate Ward already have a couple of these at their next auction. These must have been consigned before delivery unless they are ones that Tate Ward bought themselves. Very sus! Interesting to see that estimates for the lots at Tate Ward are something like "consensual + little premium" (eg empresses at 3k-5k). The estimates for the Marilyn and the Camo for sale (3,2k - 3,8k) is quiet conservative. But can they do otherwise as it is the first time it goes at auction? Can't wait to see the result. My guess : 5k + fees for each one
In Spain, they were quiet less conservative with an estimate of 7k for a Marilyn at Sedart. Auction will be the same day (7th of June)
I see that Tate Ward already have a couple of these at their next auction. These must have been consigned before delivery unless they are ones that Tate Ward bought themselves. Very sus! Interesting to see that estimates for the lots at Tate Ward are something like "consensual + little premium" (eg empresses at 3k-5k). The estimates for the Marilyn and the Camo for sale (3,2k - 3,8k) is quiet conservative. But can they do otherwise as it is the first time it goes at auction? Can't wait to see the result. My guess : 5k + fees for each one
In Spain, they were quiet less conservative with an estimate of 7k for a Marilyn at Sedart. Auction will be the same day (7th of June)
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Charlie Bronson on May 27, 2023 0:19:03 GMT 1, Landed safely. This thing is gigantic. Beanie baby for size reference.
Landed safely. This thing is gigantic. Beanie baby for size reference. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Newar on May 31, 2023 9:02:28 GMT 1, if you have lot of art to hang the best way is the picture rail (you can fully integrate them when you renovate  )
normally good quality dibond are anti static and no dust will stay ... for the upper side use a simple dust cleaner.
if you have lot of art to hang the best way is the picture rail (you can fully integrate them when you renovate ) normally good quality dibond are anti static and no dust will stay ... for the upper side use a simple dust cleaner. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by biggieg on May 31, 2023 16:26:49 GMT 1, Really do look stunning. And big. Added banana for scale.
Really do look stunning. And big. Added banana for scale. Love the banana ๐ Piece looks great too! |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by steub13 on May 31, 2023 19:58:22 GMT 1, US Based, waiting for my Camouflage to arrive (haven't heard from DHL yet either).
Just wanted to see if any other US buyers have received their pieces yet or are we all still waiting on this side of the pond?
US Based, waiting for my Camouflage to arrive (haven't heard from DHL yet either).
Just wanted to see if any other US buyers have received their pieces yet or are we all still waiting on this side of the pond?
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by topper on May 31, 2023 20:06:50 GMT 1, I'm still waiting for mine in the UK!
I'm still waiting for mine in the UK!
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by drbf on May 31, 2023 21:19:22 GMT 1, US Based, waiting for my Camouflage to arrive (haven't heard from DHL yet either). Just wanted to see if any other US buyers have received their pieces yet or are we all still waiting on this side of the pond?
US Based, waiting for my Camouflage to arrive (haven't heard from DHL yet either). Just wanted to see if any other US buyers have received their pieces yet or are we all still waiting on this side of the pond? Marilyn is due today per DHL??? |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by obaki69 on May 31, 2023 21:38:17 GMT 1, Both arrived yesterday. Midwest.
Both arrived yesterday. Midwest.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by rolyateel on Jun 5, 2023 13:36:58 GMT 1, Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing!
Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now
Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing! Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Art lover lover on Jun 5, 2023 18:04:00 GMT 1, Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing! Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now
Those look great next to each other!
Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing! Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now Those look great next to each other! |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on Jun 6, 2023 14:57:29 GMT 1, Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing! Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now
Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing! Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now This room is a very nice place to sit Having these on the floor is nice, gets a loft touch, but not very safe on the long term (and surely not your plan!) |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by rolyateel on Jun 6, 2023 16:02:54 GMT 1, Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing! Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now This room is a very nice place to sit Having these on the floor is nice, gets a loft touch, but not very safe on the long term (and surely not your plan!)
Mine arrived on around the 25th...I know it shouldn't have come as a surprise, but they're fecking HUGE...and amazing! Thanks to the poster above who suggested the alu brackets...will order some now This room is a very nice place to sit Having these on the floor is nice, gets a loft touch, but not very safe on the long term (and surely not your plan!) ...no, they're back in the boxes now - waiting for the alu hanging brackets to arrive |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by pamplemousse on Jun 8, 2023 21:09:25 GMT 1, Anyone else noticed scratches in the acrylic mounted to front on these? Could see a hairline shadow on the print and realised it was a scratch and then found a few more upon closer inspection. On that note, I'd advise cleaning these as little as possible.
Anyone else noticed scratches in the acrylic mounted to front on these? Could see a hairline shadow on the print and realised it was a scratch and then found a few more upon closer inspection. On that note, I'd advise cleaning these as little as possible.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on Jun 12, 2023 16:15:45 GMT 1, I see that Tate Ward already have a couple of these at their next auction. These must have been consigned before delivery unless they are ones that Tate Ward bought themselves. Very sus! Interesting to see that estimates for the lots at Tate Ward are something like "consensual + little premium" (eg empresses at 3k-5k). The estimates for the Marilyn and the Camo for sale (3,2k - 3,8k) is quiet conservative. But can they do otherwise as it is the first time it goes at auction? Can't wait to see the result. My guess : 5k + fees for each one
In Spain, they were quiet less conservative with an estimate of 7k for a Marilyn at Sedart. Auction will be the same day (7th of June)
Hey,
Little review of recent sales. At auction, pieces reach something like 4k to 4,5k including fees for those selling.
It seems quiet hard to get real profit as volume available on ebay is still "high" (19 as of today). But not that bad, as an artwork should never be offered at auction so little time after its release.
I personnaly follow some of them on ebay and I receive regularly offers arround 5k/6k which means that this price point remains above the range of selling prices.
It seems that these things value is between 4k to 5k, surely arround 4,5k right now. I guess it is quiet a solid base for a clean market without flippers in a couple of years.
I see that Tate Ward already have a couple of these at their next auction. These must have been consigned before delivery unless they are ones that Tate Ward bought themselves. Very sus! Interesting to see that estimates for the lots at Tate Ward are something like "consensual + little premium" (eg empresses at 3k-5k). The estimates for the Marilyn and the Camo for sale (3,2k - 3,8k) is quiet conservative. But can they do otherwise as it is the first time it goes at auction? Can't wait to see the result. My guess : 5k + fees for each one
In Spain, they were quiet less conservative with an estimate of 7k for a Marilyn at Sedart. Auction will be the same day (7th of June)
Hey,
Little review of recent sales. At auction, pieces reach something like 4k to 4,5k including fees for those selling.
It seems quiet hard to get real profit as volume available on ebay is still "high" (19 as of today). But not that bad, as an artwork should never be offered at auction so little time after its release.
I personnaly follow some of them on ebay and I receive regularly offers arround 5k/6k which means that this price point remains above the range of selling prices.
It seems that these things value is between 4k to 5k, surely arround 4,5k right now. I guess it is quiet a solid base for a clean market without flippers in a couple of years.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by its all about me on Jun 12, 2023 18:33:59 GMT 1, The two rubik cubes at Tate Ward went for 4K and 3.6K (including B/P). So , for the seller, that's close to retail.
Who are the flippers on here that said they would be worth at least double retail?
The two rubik cubes at Tate Ward went for 4K and 3.6K (including B/P). So , for the seller, that's close to retail.
Who are the flippers on here that said they would be worth at least double retail?
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Acme Thunderer on Jun 12, 2023 20:02:21 GMT 1, The two rubik cubes at Tate Ward went for 4K and 3.6K (including B/P). So , for the seller, that's close to retail. Who are the flippers on here that said they would be worth at least double retail?
The two rubik cubes at Tate Ward went for 4K and 3.6K (including B/P). So , for the seller, that's close to retail. Who are the flippers on here that said they would be worth at least double retail? When I saw those results, I actually thought that the seller at ยฃ3.6k would have made a loss after TateWard seller fees. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by its all about me on Jun 12, 2023 20:10:28 GMT 1, The two rubik cubes at Tate Ward went for 4K and 3.6K (including B/P). So , for the seller, that's close to retail. Who are the flippers on here that said they would be worth at least double retail? When I saw those results, I actually thought that the seller at ยฃ3.6k would have made a loss after TateWard seller fees.
The two rubik cubes at Tate Ward went for 4K and 3.6K (including B/P). So , for the seller, that's close to retail. Who are the flippers on here that said they would be worth at least double retail? When I saw those results, I actually thought that the seller at ยฃ3.6k would have made a loss after TateWard seller fees. True. Actually, thinking about it a bit more, I believe the seller at 4K made a loss as well. 4K including B/P would be around 3.1K hammer price - and then he had to pay sellers fees out of that. |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Acme Thunderer on Jun 12, 2023 20:12:17 GMT 1, When I saw those results, I actually thought that the seller at ยฃ3.6k would have made a loss after TateWard seller fees. True. Actually, thinking about it a bit more, I believe the seller at 4K made a loss as well. 4K including B/P would be around 3.5K hammer price - and then he had to pay sellers fees out of that.
When I saw those results, I actually thought that the seller at ยฃ3.6k would have made a loss after TateWard seller fees. True. Actually, thinking about it a bit more, I believe the seller at 4K made a loss as well. 4K including B/P would be around 3.5K hammer price - and then he had to pay sellers fees out of that. โฆunless it was TateWard who placed the work in the auction themselves ๐ค |
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by stendhal on Jun 13, 2023 5:36:22 GMT 1, You are right that these sales are not a good bargain for the sellers, and indeed they got something close to the retail price. But when it comes to understand the value of a work, meaning what people are willing to pay for it, hammer price + fees is more relevant. Selling at auction when most of the market is currently on ebay is a nonsense anyway. As of today, people are ok to pay 4K / 5k for it so putting these at auction is the worst strategy. Might be relevant in 5 to 10 years
You are right that these sales are not a good bargain for the sellers, and indeed they got something close to the retail price. But when it comes to understand the value of a work, meaning what people are willing to pay for it, hammer price + fees is more relevant. Selling at auction when most of the market is currently on ebay is a nonsense anyway. As of today, people are ok to pay 4K / 5k for it so putting these at auction is the worst strategy. Might be relevant in 5 to 10 years
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Brittany's Urban on Jul 10, 2023 15:17:33 GMT 1, Anyone interested to buy 'Camouflage', drop me message.
Would let it go at cost, pick up in Rennes, France (total cost with customs so 3.600โฌ).
Concerned about shipping costs and complex tax issues with UK so will consider pick up only at first.
Thanks.
Anyone interested to buy 'Camouflage', drop me message.
Would let it go at cost, pick up in Rennes, France (total cost with customs so 3.600โฌ).
Concerned about shipping costs and complex tax issues with UK so will consider pick up only at first.
Thanks.
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