zoomrider
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by zoomrider on Jul 15, 2024 14:45:44 GMT 1, It was a good thing to see that you choose to change the process. One does not feel that it is particularly accessible when prints disappear in mere seconds. Now that it is official that Pejac has not applied gold leaf to the works. What personal touch comes from Pejac other than the print itself and the planning. Did he sign the prints by hand, or was this also applied as part of the printing process? If the latter I'd say that this art might lose some interest as it feels like the artist has barely been close to the print. Wait. It says โindividually signed and numberedโ but does not say โby the artistโ. Are we thinking these are not even hand signed in person by Pejac now?!
It was a good thing to see that you choose to change the process. One does not feel that it is particularly accessible when prints disappear in mere seconds. Now that it is official that Pejac has not applied gold leaf to the works. What personal touch comes from Pejac other than the print itself and the planning. Did he sign the prints by hand, or was this also applied as part of the printing process? If the latter I'd say that this art might lose some interest as it feels like the artist has barely been close to the print. Wait. It says โindividually signed and numberedโ but does not say โby the artistโ. Are we thinking these are not even hand signed in person by Pejac now?!
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nobokov
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by nobokov on Jul 15, 2024 14:48:12 GMT 1, Usually when a print is described as "hand finished" I assume it's by the artist, but maybe that's just me, and obviously that's not always the case. Thats how i'd interpret it too. So your not alone there, and its somewhat misleading isnt it? To their defence they have never claimed it was done by the artist. Based on the text i recall it has said something along the line as it could be read in plural. Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
Usually when a print is described as "hand finished" I assume it's by the artist, but maybe that's just me, and obviously that's not always the case. Thats how i'd interpret it too. So your not alone there, and its somewhat misleading isnt it? To their defence they have never claimed it was done by the artist. Based on the text i recall it has said something along the line as it could be read in plural. Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
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Fluffy Pillow
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Fluffy Pillow on Jul 15, 2024 14:53:09 GMT 1, He knew the answer, just wanted to constantly annoy everyone here about who put the gold leaf on them. How dare someone not reply to him! Anyway well done once again for being professional as ever AA You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Respectfully, I believe many here would prefer you let it go. A third of the pages on this particular topic, are about you, the wordsmith crusader. Fans of the image and artist donโt mind. Only someone that may flip it further would feel the need to say Pejac graced this in gold. The gallery isnโt deceiving you. Persistence doesnโt always prosper. Itโs just a print and the gallery knows it will sell out, with or without you.
He knew the answer, just wanted to constantly annoy everyone here about who put the gold leaf on them. How dare someone not reply to him! Anyway well done once again for being professional as ever AA You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Respectfully, I believe many here would prefer you let it go. A third of the pages on this particular topic, are about you, the wordsmith crusader. Fans of the image and artist donโt mind. Only someone that may flip it further would feel the need to say Pejac graced this in gold. The gallery isnโt deceiving you. Persistence doesnโt always prosper. Itโs just a print and the gallery knows it will sell out, with or without you.
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Horatio Nelson on Jul 15, 2024 14:53:35 GMT 1, Presumably Pejac foraged by hand for the raw materials which make up the UV pigments, cut each sheet of paper to size without assistance, applied the ink to the silkscreen personally and serviced the printing machinery himself before this edition was released?
Presumably Pejac foraged by hand for the raw materials which make up the UV pigments, cut each sheet of paper to size without assistance, applied the ink to the silkscreen personally and serviced the printing machinery himself before this edition was released?
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cemltz
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by cemltz on Jul 15, 2024 15:08:39 GMT 1, The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf. If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website. Wasnโt hard to confirm it WASNโT hand finished by the artist. By trying to avoid answering just shows you were trying to mislead. Pathetic! I think what you meant to say is โThank you for the response.โ
The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf. If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website. Wasnโt hard to confirm it WASNโT hand finished by the artist. By trying to avoid answering just shows you were trying to mislead. Pathetic! I think what you meant to say is โThank you for the response.โ
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by its all about me on Jul 15, 2024 15:15:33 GMT 1, Thats how i'd interpret it too. So your not alone there, and its somewhat misleading isnt it? To their defence they have never claimed it was done by the artist. Based on the text i recall it has said something along the line as it could be read in plural. Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science.
Thats how i'd interpret it too. So your not alone there, and its somewhat misleading isnt it? To their defence they have never claimed it was done by the artist. Based on the text i recall it has said something along the line as it could be read in plural. Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science.
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nobokov
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by nobokov on Jul 15, 2024 15:17:46 GMT 1, You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Respectfully, I believe many here would prefer you let it go. A third of the pages on this particular topic, are about you, the wordsmith crusader. Fans of the image and artist donโt mind. Only someone that may flip it further would feel the need to say Pejac graced this in gold. The gallery isnโt deceiving you. Persistence doesnโt always prosper. Itโs just a print and the gallery knows it will sell out, with or without you. I think Acme has a point, even if it's expressed poorly. Isn't the whole point of calling out "hand-finishing" to influence a customer to purchase it by highlighting an artist's connection to that specific print? It seems trivial, but people pay more for things just to share that connection.
You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Respectfully, I believe many here would prefer you let it go. A third of the pages on this particular topic, are about you, the wordsmith crusader. Fans of the image and artist donโt mind. Only someone that may flip it further would feel the need to say Pejac graced this in gold. The gallery isnโt deceiving you. Persistence doesnโt always prosper. Itโs just a print and the gallery knows it will sell out, with or without you. I think Acme has a point, even if it's expressed poorly. Isn't the whole point of calling out "hand-finishing" to influence a customer to purchase it by highlighting an artist's connection to that specific print? It seems trivial, but people pay more for things just to share that connection.
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nobokov
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by nobokov on Jul 15, 2024 15:19:42 GMT 1, Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science. Thanks for the insult. I don't know. I'm not a rocket scientist, but you may have missed the post where AA specified, "The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf.If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website."
Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science. Thanks for the insult. I don't know. I'm not a rocket scientist, but you may have missed the post where AA specified, "The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf.If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website."
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Fluffy Pillow
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Fluffy Pillow on Jul 15, 2024 15:37:41 GMT 1, Respectfully, I believe many here would prefer you let it go. A third of the pages on this particular topic, are about you, the wordsmith crusader. Fans of the image and artist donโt mind. Only someone that may flip it further would feel the need to say Pejac graced this in gold. The gallery isnโt deceiving you. Persistence doesnโt always prosper. Itโs just a print and the gallery knows it will sell out, with or without you. I think Acme has a point, even if it's expressed poorly. Isn't the whole point of calling out "hand-finishing" to influence a customer to purchase it by highlighting an artist's connection to that specific print? It seems trivial, but people pay more for things just to share that connection. Iโm with you, sir. He does have a valid question however the pursuit is publicly questionable. Reminds me of Violet in Willy Wonka. Never see this much contention over Hirst where a warehouse of workers are adding colorful marks.
Respectfully, I believe many here would prefer you let it go. A third of the pages on this particular topic, are about you, the wordsmith crusader. Fans of the image and artist donโt mind. Only someone that may flip it further would feel the need to say Pejac graced this in gold. The gallery isnโt deceiving you. Persistence doesnโt always prosper. Itโs just a print and the gallery knows it will sell out, with or without you. I think Acme has a point, even if it's expressed poorly. Isn't the whole point of calling out "hand-finishing" to influence a customer to purchase it by highlighting an artist's connection to that specific print? It seems trivial, but people pay more for things just to share that connection. Iโm with you, sir. He does have a valid question however the pursuit is publicly questionable. Reminds me of Violet in Willy Wonka. Never see this much contention over Hirst where a warehouse of workers are adding colorful marks.
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Random Ginger Bloke on Jul 15, 2024 16:02:50 GMT 1, Fair play to Avant Arte for addressing the issue and communicating how they will resolve it ๐
Fair play to Avant Arte for addressing the issue and communicating how they will resolve it ๐
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tranito
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by tranito on Jul 15, 2024 16:05:03 GMT 1, Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science. Actually, it's pretty safe to assume that's not Pejac and probably the same person who was mandated to apply the gold leaf, but what do I know. I get both sides, but personally don't care all that much or don't think it's that big of a deal. It's a run of 1000. Time has come to take it for what it is. Hand finishing by the artist usually is to make a very limited amount, a handful of prints very special. A run of 1000 is closer in intent to a time-limit, something to put in the hands of as many collectors as possible. The way I see it, the hand applied gold leaf / hand finishing is a little bonus they threw in there, but very minimal as far as hand finishing goes in comparison to most hand finishing you can find on other way more limited releases.
Doesn't the video itself seem to imply that the Pejac edition is finished by his hand?
It shows what appears to be Pejac drawing, then pointing at the print, then gold being applied, then finally the signature being signed.
Now, if the description says, "Individually signed (bottom left) and numbered (bottom right)," are we now to assume that since it doesn't say hand-signed by artist, that Pejac didn't sign it? And yes, of course that would be a bit ridiculous.
But, you never know these days. Often "signed" cds are auto-penned and one needs to get clarification that they're hand-signed. But now, I suppose we need to have the companies specify that they are hand-signed by the artist. What a hassle.
According to Canadian law, "The Competition Act contains provisions addressing false or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices in promoting the supply or use of a product or any business interest. All representations, in any form whatever, that are false or misleading in a material respect are subject to the Act. If a representation could influence a consumer to buy or use the product or service advertised, it is material. To determine whether a representation is false or misleading, the courts consider the "general impression" it conveys, as well as its literal meaning."
The general impression "hand-finishing" conveys is that the artist is hand-finishing it. I would assume that AA wasn't being intentionally deceptive but made a mistake in describing some of their products. Hopefully, they'll make adjustments to fix it in the future and for those products which are misrepresented.
The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science. Actually, it's pretty safe to assume that's not Pejac and probably the same person who was mandated to apply the gold leaf, but what do I know. I get both sides, but personally don't care all that much or don't think it's that big of a deal. It's a run of 1000. Time has come to take it for what it is. Hand finishing by the artist usually is to make a very limited amount, a handful of prints very special. A run of 1000 is closer in intent to a time-limit, something to put in the hands of as many collectors as possible. The way I see it, the hand applied gold leaf / hand finishing is a little bonus they threw in there, but very minimal as far as hand finishing goes in comparison to most hand finishing you can find on other way more limited releases.
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by its all about me on Jul 15, 2024 16:06:13 GMT 1, The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science. Thanks for the insult. I don't know. I'm not a rocket scientist, but you may have missed the post where AA specified, "The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf.If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website." The gold leaf is added by a "specialist gilder" and then Pejac comes along afterwards and applies the finishing touches over the top of the gold leaf to give the impression of shadows etc. That's how I interpreted it anyway. I don't know why people are obsessing about this, to be honest. Are people just in a bad mood because England lost the footie?
The gold leaf is hand-finished by the artist. Take a look at the images on the website. It's not rocket science. Thanks for the insult. I don't know. I'm not a rocket scientist, but you may have missed the post where AA specified, "The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf.If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website." The gold leaf is added by a "specialist gilder" and then Pejac comes along afterwards and applies the finishing touches over the top of the gold leaf to give the impression of shadows etc. That's how I interpreted it anyway. I don't know why people are obsessing about this, to be honest. Are people just in a bad mood because England lost the footie?
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Wanchope
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Wanchope on Jul 15, 2024 16:35:16 GMT 1, He knew the answer, just wanted to constantly annoy everyone here about who put the gold leaf on them. How dare someone not reply to him! Anyway well done once again for being professional as ever AA You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Excuse me? I know Christian is at AA but I donโt know him and have never bought or dealt with him directly so you better pipe down again. You eluded to the fact I bought on pre-sale but how wrong you are ( yet again). Iโm a big fan of pejac, but this one didnโt do it for me. Now back to why I made the comment and thatโs because you clearly are a dog with a bone over this and just kept making snidey insinuating comments. Maybe you have had an issue with Avant Arte in the past I donโt know, but you were relentless and it was boring to read over and over. If I were them I would have ignored you too. For me they have been the ONLY publishers I have had respect for and nailed the artworks I have previously bought to a tee.
He knew the answer, just wanted to constantly annoy everyone here about who put the gold leaf on them. How dare someone not reply to him! Anyway well done once again for being professional as ever AA You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Excuse me? I know Christian is at AA but I donโt know him and have never bought or dealt with him directly so you better pipe down again. You eluded to the fact I bought on pre-sale but how wrong you are ( yet again). Iโm a big fan of pejac, but this one didnโt do it for me. Now back to why I made the comment and thatโs because you clearly are a dog with a bone over this and just kept making snidey insinuating comments. Maybe you have had an issue with Avant Arte in the past I donโt know, but you were relentless and it was boring to read over and over. If I were them I would have ignored you too. For me they have been the ONLY publishers I have had respect for and nailed the artworks I have previously bought to a tee.
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Acme Thunderer
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Acme Thunderer on Jul 15, 2024 16:45:14 GMT 1, You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Excuse me? I know Christian is at AA but I donโt know him and have never bought or dealt with him directly so you better pipe down again. You eluded to the fact I bought on pre-sale but how wrong you are ( yet again). Iโm a big fan of pejac, but this one didnโt do it for me. Now back to why I made the comment and thatโs because you clearly are a dog with a bone over this and just kept making snidey insinuating comments. Maybe you have had an issue with Avant Arte in the past I donโt know, but you were relentless and it was boring to read over and over. If I were them I would have ignored you too. For me they have been the ONLY publishers I have had respect for and nailed the artworks I have previously bought to a tee. Iโve never been personal (until just then as it WAS needed), but you have decided to start on me for pointing something out that others might be interested in and AA did not have the courtesy to clarify.
If AA answered a simple question several weeks ago then it would have been resolved, but they chose to purposely ignore and continue to mislead (it has been discussed by many others here and on other forums).
I like to think that this forum upholds good ethics and will hold companies to account. I have put my personal interests aside and glad that I can have a good conscience when dealing with crap from people like you.
You would prefer them to mislead everyone instead! You clearly donโt care about giving the right information as your head is too far up Christianโs arse. ๐ Just goes to show unprofessional they are on this release by misleading. They never replied as they wanted to avoid disclosing the truth. Excuse me? I know Christian is at AA but I donโt know him and have never bought or dealt with him directly so you better pipe down again. You eluded to the fact I bought on pre-sale but how wrong you are ( yet again). Iโm a big fan of pejac, but this one didnโt do it for me. Now back to why I made the comment and thatโs because you clearly are a dog with a bone over this and just kept making snidey insinuating comments. Maybe you have had an issue with Avant Arte in the past I donโt know, but you were relentless and it was boring to read over and over. If I were them I would have ignored you too. For me they have been the ONLY publishers I have had respect for and nailed the artworks I have previously bought to a tee. Iโve never been personal (until just then as it WAS needed), but you have decided to start on me for pointing something out that others might be interested in and AA did not have the courtesy to clarify. If AA answered a simple question several weeks ago then it would have been resolved, but they chose to purposely ignore and continue to mislead (it has been discussed by many others here and on other forums). I like to think that this forum upholds good ethics and will hold companies to account. I have put my personal interests aside and glad that I can have a good conscience when dealing with crap from people like you.
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fordwd
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by fordwd on Jul 15, 2024 16:59:03 GMT 1, Excuse me? I know Christian is at AA but I donโt know him and have never bought or dealt with him directly so you better pipe down again. You eluded to the fact I bought on pre-sale but how wrong you are ( yet again). Iโm a big fan of pejac, but this one didnโt do it for me. Now back to why I made the comment and thatโs because you clearly are a dog with a bone over this and just kept making snidey insinuating comments. Maybe you have had an issue with Avant Arte in the past I donโt know, but you were relentless and it was boring to read over and over. If I were them I would have ignored you too. For me they have been the ONLY publishers I have had respect for and nailed the artworks I have previously bought to a tee. Iโve never been personal (until just then as it WAS needed), but you have decided to start on me for pointing something out that others might be interested in and AA did not have the courtesy to clarify. If AA answered a simple question several weeks ago then it would have been resolved, but they chose to purposely ignore and continue to mislead (it has been discussed by many others here and on other forums). I like to think that this forum upholds good ethics and will hold companies to account. I have put my personal interests aside and glad that I can have a good conscience when dealing with crap from people like you. Dude, please just stop now. You got your answer, which they cleared up more than a week ago.
You brought up a valid point and clarity was needed. But this was resolved a while ago and this thread doesnโt need to hear about it the whole time. We know where you stand.
Excuse me? I know Christian is at AA but I donโt know him and have never bought or dealt with him directly so you better pipe down again. You eluded to the fact I bought on pre-sale but how wrong you are ( yet again). Iโm a big fan of pejac, but this one didnโt do it for me. Now back to why I made the comment and thatโs because you clearly are a dog with a bone over this and just kept making snidey insinuating comments. Maybe you have had an issue with Avant Arte in the past I donโt know, but you were relentless and it was boring to read over and over. If I were them I would have ignored you too. For me they have been the ONLY publishers I have had respect for and nailed the artworks I have previously bought to a tee. Iโve never been personal (until just then as it WAS needed), but you have decided to start on me for pointing something out that others might be interested in and AA did not have the courtesy to clarify. If AA answered a simple question several weeks ago then it would have been resolved, but they chose to purposely ignore and continue to mislead (it has been discussed by many others here and on other forums). I like to think that this forum upholds good ethics and will hold companies to account. I have put my personal interests aside and glad that I can have a good conscience when dealing with crap from people like you. Dude, please just stop now. You got your answer, which they cleared up more than a week ago. You brought up a valid point and clarity was needed. But this was resolved a while ago and this thread doesnโt need to hear about it the whole time. We know where you stand.
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Acme Thunderer
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Acme Thunderer on Jul 15, 2024 17:09:44 GMT 1, Iโve never been personal (until just then as it WAS needed), but you have decided to start on me for pointing something out that others might be interested in and AA did not have the courtesy to clarify. If AA answered a simple question several weeks ago then it would have been resolved, but they chose to purposely ignore and continue to mislead (it has been discussed by many others here and on other forums). I like to think that this forum upholds good ethics and will hold companies to account. I have put my personal interests aside and glad that I can have a good conscience when dealing with crap from people like you. Dude, please just stop now. You got your answer, which they cleared up more than a week ago. You brought up a valid point and clarity was needed. But this was resolved a while ago and this thread doesnโt need to hear about it the whole time. We know where you stand. Just dealing with someone who wants to be personal. No one is more fed up with this than me. ๐คฃ
Iโve never been personal (until just then as it WAS needed), but you have decided to start on me for pointing something out that others might be interested in and AA did not have the courtesy to clarify. If AA answered a simple question several weeks ago then it would have been resolved, but they chose to purposely ignore and continue to mislead (it has been discussed by many others here and on other forums). I like to think that this forum upholds good ethics and will hold companies to account. I have put my personal interests aside and glad that I can have a good conscience when dealing with crap from people like you. Dude, please just stop now. You got your answer, which they cleared up more than a week ago. You brought up a valid point and clarity was needed. But this was resolved a while ago and this thread doesnโt need to hear about it the whole time. We know where you stand. Just dealing with someone who wants to be personal. No one is more fed up with this than me. ๐คฃ
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clapped
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by clapped on Jul 15, 2024 17:27:00 GMT 1, submitted my 1,500 entries. lets see how this raffle script preforms
submitted my 1,500 entries. lets see how this raffle script preforms
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jordansw
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by jordansw on Jul 15, 2024 17:29:31 GMT 1, I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm...
I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm...
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tranito
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by tranito on Jul 15, 2024 17:38:39 GMT 1, I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be?
I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be?
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jordansw
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by jordansw on Jul 15, 2024 17:59:43 GMT 1, I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be? Someone here alluded to this possibility. I agree it would be very strange.
I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be? Someone here alluded to this possibility. I agree it would be very strange.
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by iforgot my username on Jul 15, 2024 18:03:58 GMT 1, Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be? Someone here alluded to this possibility. I agree it would be very strange. I heard he's rubbing his peen on 1k prints, mushroom stamp style! Gold gets a little something extra special with spots of cum.
Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be? Someone here alluded to this possibility. I agree it would be very strange. I heard he's rubbing his peen on 1k prints, mushroom stamp style! Gold gets a little something extra special with spots of cum.
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by its all about me on Jul 15, 2024 18:04:25 GMT 1, I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he has. The posts on here are going from the sublime to the totally ridiculous.
I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he has. The posts on here are going from the sublime to the totally ridiculous.
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artearte
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by artearte on Jul 15, 2024 18:04:43 GMT 1, This is a total manipulation by Avanart to make more money
This is a total manipulation by Avanart to make more money
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by Happy Shopper on Jul 15, 2024 18:05:12 GMT 1, Thanks for the insult. I don't know. I'm not a rocket scientist, but you may have missed the post where AA specified, "The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf.If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website." The gold leaf is added by a "specialist gilder" and then Pejac comes along afterwards and applies the finishing touches over the top of the gold leaf to give the impression of shadows etc. That's how I interpreted it anyway. You seem to have interpreted that wrong. AA specifically said that if the artist themselves had hand finished these prints then theyโd have said that.
Thanks for the insult. I don't know. I'm not a rocket scientist, but you may have missed the post where AA specified, "The 24ct gold leaf hand-finishing is applied by a specialist gilder, selected by Pejac but he is not the one applying the gold leaf.If something is hand-finished by the artist themselves we'll usually explicitly say so on our website." The gold leaf is added by a "specialist gilder" and then Pejac comes along afterwards and applies the finishing touches over the top of the gold leaf to give the impression of shadows etc. That's how I interpreted it anyway. You seem to have interpreted that wrong. AA specifically said that if the artist themselves had hand finished these prints then theyโd have said that.
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tranito
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by tranito on Jul 15, 2024 18:05:55 GMT 1, Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be? Someone here alluded to this possibility. I agree it would be very strange. Not the first weird suggestion on this thread and probably not the last one either.
Of course he signed these himself. It would be weird to ask someone to imitate his signature, wouldn't it be? Someone here alluded to this possibility. I agree it would be very strange. Not the first weird suggestion on this thread and probably not the last one either.
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vei
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by vei on Jul 15, 2024 18:07:50 GMT 1, This is a total manipulation by Avanart to make more money Absolutely no manipulation, or any needed. This is a pejac print. In my opinion also the best most exciting drop in bloody ages.
This is a total manipulation by Avanart to make more money Absolutely no manipulation, or any needed. This is a pejac print. In my opinion also the best most exciting drop in bloody ages.
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jordansw
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by jordansw on Jul 15, 2024 18:12:45 GMT 1, This is a total manipulation by Avanart to make more money Absolutely no manipulation, or any needed. This is a pejac print. In my opinion also the best most exciting drop in bloody ages. I thought "The Boss" was better than this one. And "So Far So Close"...HOPE I think is much better than "New Wave". Those hardly seem to be hitting drop price on the secondary market.
This is a total manipulation by Avanart to make more money Absolutely no manipulation, or any needed. This is a pejac print. In my opinion also the best most exciting drop in bloody ages. I thought "The Boss" was better than this one. And "So Far So Close"...HOPE I think is much better than "New Wave". Those hardly seem to be hitting drop price on the secondary market.
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yoss
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by yoss on Jul 15, 2024 18:25:34 GMT 1, Any of the lucky 20 on here from the first tier?
Any of the lucky 20 on here from the first tier?
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cemltz
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by cemltz on Jul 15, 2024 18:27:37 GMT 1, I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he has. The posts on here are going from the sublime to the totally ridiculous. Hmmm...to be perfectly precise...and super pedantic, as this forum appears to very concerned with these days...I suspect he has signed them himself, but very unlikely that he numbered them. Most people have people for that.
I sure fucking hope Pejac signed and numbered these himself. He's never not done that for his own prints. Hopefully AA can confirm... Of course he has. The posts on here are going from the sublime to the totally ridiculous. Hmmm...to be perfectly precise...and super pedantic, as this forum appears to very concerned with these days...I suspect he has signed them himself, but very unlikely that he numbered them. Most people have people for that.
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thecleaner
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Pejac & Avant Arte - A new print series, by thecleaner on Jul 15, 2024 18:27:56 GMT 1, Not sure whether they are done with the draw yet?
Not sure whether they are done with the draw yet?
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