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Banksy Links, by Daniel Silk on Jun 2, 2006 18:08:01 GMT 1, Yeah, I think if Banksy does not bring out any cheap (Meaning under £200 each) prints in the next few months most of the people that are members on here will be buying more and more Dolk, Eelus, D*Face, Beneine, Nick Walker errrrr, anymore? 
I think he could loose half of his following from not having the prints available for them to buy 
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 2, 2006 18:38:50 GMT 1, Yeah, I think if Banksy does not bring out any cheap (Meaning under £200 each) prints in the next few months most of the people that are members on here will be buying more and more Dolk, Eelus, D*Face, Beneine, Nick Walker errrrr, anymore? I think he could loose half of his following from not having the prints available for them to buy Am I talking crap?
;-), no, I think it's right.. an addiction's an addiction.. if you can't afford coke then a cheeky line of speed will do the trick. Not that that's a very good analogy maybe.. but, ya know what I mean 
Yeah, I think if Banksy does not bring out any cheap (Meaning under £200 each) prints in the next few months most of the people that are members on here will be buying more and more Dolk, Eelus, D*Face, Beneine, Nick Walker errrrr, anymore? I think he could loose half of his following from not having the prints available for them to buy Am I talking crap? ;-), no, I think it's right.. an addiction's an addiction.. if you can't afford coke then a cheeky line of speed will do the trick. Not that that's a very good analogy maybe.. but, ya know what I mean |
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Banksy Links, by Daniel Silk on Jun 2, 2006 18:48:09 GMT 1, Yeah, I think if Banksy does not bring out any cheap (Meaning under £200 each) prints in the next few months most of the people that are members on here will be buying more and more Dolk, Eelus, D*Face, Beneine, Nick Walker errrrr, anymore? I think he could loose half of his following from not having the prints available for them to buy Am I talking crap? ;-), no, I think it's right.. an addiction's an addiction.. if you can't afford coke then a cheeky line of speed will do the trick. Not that that's a very good analogy maybe.. but, ya know what I mean
Thanks Nu  Glad to know Im not crazy
Banksy, if your reading this If I were you I would get some prints out fast!  Bring out one new print about every month.
Yeah, I think if Banksy does not bring out any cheap (Meaning under £200 each) prints in the next few months most of the people that are members on here will be buying more and more Dolk, Eelus, D*Face, Beneine, Nick Walker errrrr, anymore? I think he could loose half of his following from not having the prints available for them to buy Am I talking crap? ;-), no, I think it's right.. an addiction's an addiction.. if you can't afford coke then a cheeky line of speed will do the trick. Not that that's a very good analogy maybe.. but, ya know what I mean Thanks Nu Glad to know Im not crazy Banksy, if your reading this If I were you I would get some prints out fast! Bring out one new print about every month. |
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Banksy Links, by LoveRat on Jun 2, 2006 18:57:16 GMT 1, Yeah, I think if Banksy does not bring out any cheap (Meaning under £200 each) prints in the next few months most of the people that are members on here will be buying more and more Dolk, Eelus, D*Face, Beneine, Nick Walker errrrr, anymore? I think he could loose half of his following from not having the prints available for them to buy Am I talking crap? ;-), no, I think it's right.. an addiction's an addiction.. if you can't afford coke then a cheeky line of speed will do the trick. Not that that's a very good analogy maybe.. but, ya know what I mean
or maybe a couple of Jack and Jills...
Yeah, I think if Banksy does not bring out any cheap (Meaning under £200 each) prints in the next few months most of the people that are members on here will be buying more and more Dolk, Eelus, D*Face, Beneine, Nick Walker errrrr, anymore? I think he could loose half of his following from not having the prints available for them to buy Am I talking crap? ;-), no, I think it's right.. an addiction's an addiction.. if you can't afford coke then a cheeky line of speed will do the trick. Not that that's a very good analogy maybe.. but, ya know what I mean or maybe a couple of Jack and Jills... |
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Banksy Links, by stencilope on Jun 3, 2006 2:11:55 GMT 1, "Hmmm, this is generally not the case once it crosses over into 'fine art', at the moment we're at the bottom of the food chain.. once the signed prints, a/p's and oils get into the hands of people who can afford not to sell them ( and that's slowly happening), then the market will dry up..they'll rarely appear and when they do they'll go for a very good price. The unsigned maybe not.. but then a market for early signed Dolk, Eelus, Micaleff etc will kick in."
For the market do as you describe would run counter to virtually every established precedent out there. You are forgetting that supply actually doesn't matter much toward values. Demand plays a much bigger role than supply.
Art collectors rarely are artists, and very few know art, OR EVEN WHAT THEY LIKE. Most simply know what is CURRENT.
None of the works of insanely huge pop artists of twenty years ago are any more common now than they were then, the difference is there are no hipsters or rockstars out there now that feel the need to say "That's a Scharf original" (yeah, bet you don't know or can even find out who he was). Hence why I can wallpaper my basement with works that sold for six-figure stupid money once upon a time.
Buy art only because you like it. Especially pop art. This isn't fine art and will probably never make the cut. That's not a slam on Banksy, thats just life. Once the rockstars lose interest, only the real fans will be left, and prices plummet. I am just now buying a print I couldn't afford in 1986, from an artist more shitly famous than anyone I can think of today - it was originally a 750.00 issue price, but it sold out and I missed it and people wanted up to 2000.00 for one. Just got one today for 25.00 signed, numbered, AND nicely framed. There's a lot of art out there and I'm patient.
"Hmmm, this is generally not the case once it crosses over into 'fine art', at the moment we're at the bottom of the food chain.. once the signed prints, a/p's and oils get into the hands of people who can afford not to sell them ( and that's slowly happening), then the market will dry up..they'll rarely appear and when they do they'll go for a very good price. The unsigned maybe not.. but then a market for early signed Dolk, Eelus, Micaleff etc will kick in."
For the market do as you describe would run counter to virtually every established precedent out there. You are forgetting that supply actually doesn't matter much toward values. Demand plays a much bigger role than supply.
Art collectors rarely are artists, and very few know art, OR EVEN WHAT THEY LIKE. Most simply know what is CURRENT.
None of the works of insanely huge pop artists of twenty years ago are any more common now than they were then, the difference is there are no hipsters or rockstars out there now that feel the need to say "That's a Scharf original" (yeah, bet you don't know or can even find out who he was). Hence why I can wallpaper my basement with works that sold for six-figure stupid money once upon a time.
Buy art only because you like it. Especially pop art. This isn't fine art and will probably never make the cut. That's not a slam on Banksy, thats just life. Once the rockstars lose interest, only the real fans will be left, and prices plummet. I am just now buying a print I couldn't afford in 1986, from an artist more shitly famous than anyone I can think of today - it was originally a 750.00 issue price, but it sold out and I missed it and people wanted up to 2000.00 for one. Just got one today for 25.00 signed, numbered, AND nicely framed. There's a lot of art out there and I'm patient.
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 3, 2006 2:32:16 GMT 1, "Hmmm, this is generally not the case once it crosses over into 'fine art', at the moment we're at the bottom of the food chain.. once the signed prints, a/p's and oils get into the hands of people who can afford not to sell them ( and that's slowly happening), then the market will dry up..they'll rarely appear and when they do they'll go for a very good price. The unsigned maybe not.. but then a market for early signed Dolk, Eelus, Micaleff etc will kick in." For the market do as you describe would run counter to virtually every established precedent out there. You are forgetting that supply actually doesn't matter much toward values. Demand plays a much bigger role than supply. Art collectors rarely are artists, and very few know art, OR EVEN WHAT THEY LIKE. Most simply know what is CURRENT. None of the works of insanely huge pop artists of twenty years ago are any more common now than they were then, the difference is there are no hipsters or rockstars out there now that feel the need to say "That's a Scharf original" (yeah, bet you don't know or can even find out who he was). Hence why I can wallpaper my basement with works that sold for six-figure stupid money once upon a time. Buy art only because you like it. Especially pop art. This isn't fine art and will probably never make the cut. That's not a slam on Banksy, thats just life. Once the rockstars lose interest, only the real fans will be left, and prices plummet. I am just now buying a print I couldn't afford in 1986, from an artist more nutsly famous than anyone I can think of today - it was originally a 750.00 issue price, but it sold out and I missed it and people wanted up to 2000.00 for one. Just got one today for 25.00 signed, numbered, AND nicely framed. There's a lot of art out there and I'm patient.
.. NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!. it's 2006, times have changed. There's probabaly nobody (or very few) people on here who buy as an investment..there isn't a scene out there.. there are these 400people in here and that's about it.. and hey, these people here own all the prints ! and they'd rather trade and swap than buy and sell, nobody I can remember has had this effect on the art scene for a long long time.. it's not a case of some whacky street artists been invited into the 'arty party'.. fuck that.. it's not the 'savage' Basquiet being courted by the intelligentsia !.. this is work with principles and ethics, it cannot be co-opted..Saatchi wouldn't have a clue.. these markets are NOT comparable.. this is something new ;D peace ! a bit drunk maybe..but peace nontheless..hic !
"Hmmm, this is generally not the case once it crosses over into 'fine art', at the moment we're at the bottom of the food chain.. once the signed prints, a/p's and oils get into the hands of people who can afford not to sell them ( and that's slowly happening), then the market will dry up..they'll rarely appear and when they do they'll go for a very good price. The unsigned maybe not.. but then a market for early signed Dolk, Eelus, Micaleff etc will kick in." For the market do as you describe would run counter to virtually every established precedent out there. You are forgetting that supply actually doesn't matter much toward values. Demand plays a much bigger role than supply. Art collectors rarely are artists, and very few know art, OR EVEN WHAT THEY LIKE. Most simply know what is CURRENT. None of the works of insanely huge pop artists of twenty years ago are any more common now than they were then, the difference is there are no hipsters or rockstars out there now that feel the need to say "That's a Scharf original" (yeah, bet you don't know or can even find out who he was). Hence why I can wallpaper my basement with works that sold for six-figure stupid money once upon a time. Buy art only because you like it. Especially pop art. This isn't fine art and will probably never make the cut. That's not a slam on Banksy, thats just life. Once the rockstars lose interest, only the real fans will be left, and prices plummet. I am just now buying a print I couldn't afford in 1986, from an artist more nutsly famous than anyone I can think of today - it was originally a 750.00 issue price, but it sold out and I missed it and people wanted up to 2000.00 for one. Just got one today for 25.00 signed, numbered, AND nicely framed. There's a lot of art out there and I'm patient. .. NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!. it's 2006, times have changed. There's probabaly nobody (or very few) people on here who buy as an investment..there isn't a scene out there.. there are these 400people in here and that's about it.. and hey, these people here own all the prints ! and they'd rather trade and swap than buy and sell, nobody I can remember has had this effect on the art scene for a long long time.. it's not a case of some whacky street artists been invited into the 'arty party'.. fuck that.. it's not the 'savage' Basquiet being courted by the intelligentsia !.. this is work with principles and ethics, it cannot be co-opted..Saatchi wouldn't have a clue.. these markets are NOT comparable.. this is something new ;D peace ! a bit drunk maybe..but peace nontheless..hic ! |
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Banksy Links, by stencilope on Jun 3, 2006 3:26:51 GMT 1, .. NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!.
Hahahahaha. So true. But there seemed to be a lot of those damn muppets..... You know that guy STILL does art shows to this day?
So maybe that was an unfair comparison, Basquiat is probably a more appropriate reference. The most analogous figure to Banksy from that scene would probably be someone more like Keith Haring.
Haring's stuff was solid, and he earned his place as an artist. The pop culture bubble still burst and knocked zeroes off the peak prices for his stuff - Most of his signed and numbered prints will still bring less now than a Banksy will, and much harder to find a buyer......
.. NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!.
Hahahahaha. So true. But there seemed to be a lot of those damn muppets..... You know that guy STILL does art shows to this day?
So maybe that was an unfair comparison, Basquiat is probably a more appropriate reference. The most analogous figure to Banksy from that scene would probably be someone more like Keith Haring.
Haring's stuff was solid, and he earned his place as an artist. The pop culture bubble still burst and knocked zeroes off the peak prices for his stuff - Most of his signed and numbered prints will still bring less now than a Banksy will, and much harder to find a buyer......
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 3, 2006 11:27:27 GMT 1, NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!.[/i][/sup]
A Kenny Scharf painting, sold at Sotheby's New York on 11th May 2006 for $110, 000 (approx £59,000.00). It was estimated to sell for between $70,000 and $90,000. Not bad eh for a 'crap artist' that nobody ever buys, oh of course apart from those wall street muppets who obviously haven't got a clue what they are doing.
NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!.[/i][/sup]
A Kenny Scharf painting, sold at Sotheby's New York on 11th May 2006 for $110, 000 (approx £59,000.00). It was estimated to sell for between $70,000 and $90,000. Not bad eh for a 'crap artist' that nobody ever buys, oh of course apart from those wall street muppets who obviously haven't got a clue what they are doing.
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Banksy Links, by wezzley on Jun 3, 2006 11:30:49 GMT 1, very interesting discussion, cheers chaps. cant add much to it as a relative novice newcomer to the world of art, but fascinated to hear about historical price patterns.
very interesting discussion, cheers chaps. cant add much to it as a relative novice newcomer to the world of art, but fascinated to hear about historical price patterns.
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 3, 2006 11:49:14 GMT 1, NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!.
A Kenny Scharf painting, sold at Sotheby's New York on 11th May 2006 for $110, 000 (approx £59,000.00). It was estimated to sell for between $70,000 and $90,000. Not bad eh for a 'crap artist' that nobody ever buys, oh of course apart from those wall street muppets who obviously haven't got a clue what they are doing.
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For nobody read..nobody who wanted to retain any shred of credibility, wore white shirts with red braces and threw themselves into an art market they didn't understand (basically skammed by fast talking ex car salesmen gallery ownersout for a quick profit)..shortly afterwards they were throwing themselves off skyscrapers ;-) ha ha ! yuppy nonesense !!!
NOBODY bought Kenny Scharf's work.. EVER !, apart from idiotic wall street muppets trying to buy into the wacky 80's pop scene.. his work was crap !!!. [/i][/sup] A Kenny Scharf painting, sold at Sotheby's New York on 11th May 2006 for $110, 000 (approx £59,000.00). It was estimated to sell for between $70,000 and $90,000. Not bad eh for a 'crap artist' that nobody ever buys, oh of course apart from those wall street muppets who obviously haven't got a clue what they are doing. [/quote] For nobody read..nobody who wanted to retain any shred of credibility, wore white shirts with red braces and threw themselves into an art market they didn't understand (basically skammed by fast talking ex car salesmen gallery ownersout for a quick profit)..shortly afterwards they were throwing themselves off skyscrapers ;-) ha ha ! yuppy nonesense !!! |
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 3, 2006 12:21:41 GMT 1,
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For nobody read..nobody who wanted to retain any shred of credibility, wore white shirts with red braces and threw themselves into an art market they didn't understand (basically skammed by fast talking ex car salesmen gallery ownersout for a quick profit)..shortly afterwards they were throwing themselves off skyscrapers ;-) ha ha ! yuppy nonesense !!! [/quote]
Numusic what is the point of posting pointless mis-informed statements like the one above. Fair enough if you don't rate Kenny Scharf's work then you are entitled to that opinion. But to suggest that Tony Shalfrazi, one of the most respected gallery owners in the world and an advocate of Kenny Scharf's, is a fast talking ex car salesman is just ignorant. And please provide one instance of a man in a white shirt, red braces and with a Kenny Scharf painting under his arm jumping off a skyscraper or save your postings for some other forum. It is annoying when trying to have a serious discussion for someone to post silly statements on a subject they obviously know very little about.
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For nobody read..nobody who wanted to retain any shred of credibility, wore white shirts with red braces and threw themselves into an art market they didn't understand (basically skammed by fast talking ex car salesmen gallery ownersout for a quick profit)..shortly afterwards they were throwing themselves off skyscrapers ;-) ha ha ! yuppy nonesense !!! [/quote]
Numusic what is the point of posting pointless mis-informed statements like the one above. Fair enough if you don't rate Kenny Scharf's work then you are entitled to that opinion. But to suggest that Tony Shalfrazi, one of the most respected gallery owners in the world and an advocate of Kenny Scharf's, is a fast talking ex car salesman is just ignorant. And please provide one instance of a man in a white shirt, red braces and with a Kenny Scharf painting under his arm jumping off a skyscraper or save your postings for some other forum. It is annoying when trying to have a serious discussion for someone to post silly statements on a subject they obviously know very little about.
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 3, 2006 14:32:27 GMT 1,
I take it you're a gallery owner then ? Fair enough if you feel a need to defend the trade, but you seriously are not suggesting that Tony Shafrazi (no L) is one of the most respected gallery in owners in the world ! ha ha.. It's a relatively small commercial gallery sellingworks to rich poncy patrons ! nothing to do with the issues raised on this forum at all..and a) it was a political and artistic statement I made not a 'silly' statement.. and b) The boom and bust economics that drove the 80's Regan war mongering machine is probably directly responsible for the likes of Banksy existing and c) People lost their shirt when the market collapsed, and yes.. there was a spate of suicides that coincided with the bubble bursting...and no doubt some of these people bought art at vastly inflated rates to 'decorate' their lofts..;-), It's the content + style of Banksy I'm interested in.. not the fact that he sells to 'stars'.. Now some gallery owners may be able to muscle in in the short term based on finance and the hope of a good return on their investments.. but no way will they be able to reign this in as they did in the 80's.. I'm sure Banksy would rather see member4s of this forum burning commercial gallewries to the ground not that I'd condone that of course ![/quote]
I take it you're a gallery owner then ? Fair enough if you feel a need to defend the trade, but you seriously are not suggesting that Tony Shafrazi (no L) is one of the most respected gallery in owners in the world ! ha ha.. It's a relatively small commercial gallery sellingworks to rich poncy patrons ! nothing to do with the issues raised on this forum at all..and a) it was a political and artistic statement I made not a 'silly' statement.. and b) The boom and bust economics that drove the 80's Regan war mongering machine is probably directly responsible for the likes of Banksy existing and c) People lost their shirt when the market collapsed, and yes.. there was a spate of suicides that coincided with the bubble bursting...and no doubt some of these people bought art at vastly inflated rates to 'decorate' their lofts..;-), It's the content + style of Banksy I'm interested in.. not the fact that he sells to 'stars'.. Now some gallery owners may be able to muscle in in the short term based on finance and the hope of a good return on their investments.. but no way will they be able to reign this in as they did in the 80's.. I'm sure Banksy would rather see member4s of this forum burning commercial gallewries to the ground not that I'd condone that of course ![/quote] |
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 3, 2006 14:57:33 GMT 1,
I take it you're a gallery owner then ? Fair enough if you feel a need to defend the trade, but you seriously are not suggesting that Tony Shafrazi (no L) is one of the most respected gallery in owners in the world ! ha ha.. It's a relatively small commercial gallery sellingworks to rich poncy patrons ! nothing to do with the issues raised on this forum at all..and a) it was a political and artistic statement I made not a 'silly' statement.. and b) The boom and bust economics that drove the 80's Regan war mongering machine is probably directly responsible for the likes of Banksy existing and c) People lost their shirt when the market collapsed, and yes.. there was a spate of suicides that coincided with the bubble bursting...and no doubt some of these people bought art at vastly inflated rates to 'decorate' their lofts..;-), It's the content + style of Banksy I'm interested in.. not the fact that he sells to 'stars'.. Now some gallery owners may be able to muscle in in the short term based on finance and the hope of a good return on their investments.. but no way will they be able to reign this in as they did in the 80's.. I'm sure Banksy would rather see member4s of this forum burning commercial gallewries to the ground not that I'd condone that of course 
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 3, 2006 17:17:58 GMT 1, oh come on, this forum isn't about the history of stencilling, politics, roots, activism...., its about when the next commercial print is coming out, what they are selling for on ebay and should they be signed on the left or right hand side.
oh come on, this forum isn't about the history of stencilling, politics, roots, activism...., its about when the next commercial print is coming out, what they are selling for on ebay and should they be signed on the left or right hand side.
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 3, 2006 18:20:09 GMT 1, oh come on, this forum isn't about the history of stencilling, politics, roots, activism...., its about when the next commercial print is coming out, what they are selling for on ebay and should they be signed on the left or right hand side.
Tell that to Brian Haw and Laz inc who donated paintings worth 30k to the cause of freedom of speech and expression.. and everyone at POW for that matter..this is an independent scene not a commercial art scene.. and though some may have had their eye on the skip with the trashed Banksy's inside.. there were others freezing there nuts off for hours sitting on top of it.
oh come on, this forum isn't about the history of stencilling, politics, roots, activism...., its about when the next commercial print is coming out, what they are selling for on ebay and should they be signed on the left or right hand side. Tell that to Brian Haw and Laz inc who donated paintings worth 30k to the cause of freedom of speech and expression.. and everyone at POW for that matter..this is an independent scene not a commercial art scene.. and though some may have had their eye on the skip with the trashed Banksy's inside.. there were others freezing there nuts off for hours sitting on top of it. |
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Banksy Links, by matilda on Jun 3, 2006 19:02:38 GMT 1, i always assumed the "paintings were on loan" bit was a ploy to freak out the police who were so delighted to trash a citizens stuff for standing up for his principles.
Do you KNOW different punkdaisey?
i always assumed the "paintings were on loan" bit was a ploy to freak out the police who were so delighted to trash a citizens stuff for standing up for his principles.
Do you KNOW different punkdaisey?
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 3, 2006 19:29:49 GMT 1, i always assumed the "paintings were on loan" bit was a ploy to freak out the police who were so delighted to trash a citizens stuff for standing up for his principles. Do you KNOW different punkdaisey?
Me, I don't have a clue. I don't do politics. I actually drove past and saw the Banksy artworks when they were first displayed there. They looked impressive but I presumed they were banksy copies or something.
i always assumed the "paintings were on loan" bit was a ploy to freak out the police who were so delighted to trash a citizens stuff for standing up for his principles. Do you KNOW different punkdaisey? Me, I don't have a clue. I don't do politics. I actually drove past and saw the Banksy artworks when they were first displayed there. They looked impressive but I presumed they were banksy copies or something. |
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Banksy Links, by LoveRat on Jun 4, 2006 9:17:48 GMT 1, sorry to everyone for so many multiple postings, but it really pisses me off that the commercial art sector with it's financial muscle thinks it can co-opt a whole movement and understand it's context cos Fat Rob and Christian Aguilairy bought a couple of canvases..I'll get mi coat ! ;D When an artist produces commercial canvases for sale to the likes of Fat Rob then the commercial art sector get involved because that is what they do and obviously by producing the canvas in the first place is what the artist wanted.
The canvas wasn't produced for Fat Bob , it was available to anyone that happened to have £30k lying around.
sorry to everyone for so many multiple postings, but it really pisses me off that the commercial art sector with it's financial muscle thinks it can co-opt a whole movement and understand it's context cos Fat Rob and Christian Aguilairy bought a couple of canvases..I'll get mi coat ! ;D When an artist produces commercial canvases for sale to the likes of Fat Rob then the commercial art sector get involved because that is what they do and obviously by producing the canvas in the first place is what the artist wanted. The canvas wasn't produced for Fat Bob , it was available to anyone that happened to have £30k lying around. |
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 10:30:32 GMT 1, [
The canvas wasn't produced for Fat Bob , it was available to anyone that happened to have £30k lying around.[/quote]
I don't think anyone said that it was produced specifically for Bat Fob
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The canvas wasn't produced for Fat Bob , it was available to anyone that happened to have £30k lying around.[/quote]
I don't think anyone said that it was produced specifically for Bat Fob
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Banksy Links, by monochrome on Jun 4, 2006 10:55:21 GMT 1, I think we're being slightly haughty here - what the damn is wrong with FAT people?
Being of 36" waist I feel like there is an anti-rotund campaign.
Are there any others who are portly and own Banksys?
Also, I'm Robbie Williams
I think we're being slightly haughty here - what the damn is wrong with FAT people?
Being of 36" waist I feel like there is an anti-rotund campaign.
Are there any others who are portly and own Banksys?
Also, I'm Robbie Williams
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 11:02:13 GMT 1, [ The canvas wasn't produced for Fat Bob , it was available to anyone that happened to have £30k lying around.
I don't think anyone said that it was produced specifically for Bat Fob
When an artist produces commercial canvases for sale to the likes of Fat Rob then the commercial art sector get involved because that is what they do and obviously by producing the canvas in the first place is what the artist wanted.[/quote]
Agreed, but your statement implies that the artist only produces work when the market or a buyer is there.. artists produce work becasue they can't not produce it, not because someone's flashing a chequebook..he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work. 
[ The canvas wasn't produced for Fat Bob , it was available to anyone that happened to have £30k lying around. I don't think anyone said that it was produced specifically for Bat Fob When an artist produces commercial canvases for sale to the likes of Fat Rob then the commercial art sector get involved because that is what they do and obviously by producing the canvas in the first place is what the artist wanted.[/quote] Agreed, but your statement implies that the artist only produces work when the market or a buyer is there.. artists produce work becasue they can't not produce it, not because someone's flashing a chequebook..he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work. |
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Banksy Links, by gm on Jun 4, 2006 11:29:34 GMT 1, I object to the way Mr Williams has purloined the nickname "Fat Bob".
"Fat Bob" was/is the singer with The Cure.
Mr Williams is traditionally referred to as "Blobbie".
(I'd do both of them. At the same time if the opportunity arose )
36", monochrome? You're wasting away. Get some pies down you!
Now, has anyone got any Banksy Website Links?
I object to the way Mr Williams has purloined the nickname "Fat Bob". "Fat Bob" was/is the singer with The Cure. Mr Williams is traditionally referred to as "Blobbie". (I'd do both of them. At the same time if the opportunity arose ) 36", monochrome? You're wasting away. Get some pies down you! Now, has anyone got any Banksy Website Links? |
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January 2006
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Banksy Links, by LoveRat on Jun 4, 2006 11:31:05 GMT 1, I think we're being slightly haughty here - what the damn is wrong with FAT people? Being of 36" waist I feel like there is an anti-rotund campaign. Are there any others who are portly and own Banksys? Also, I'm Robbie Williams
Don't worry we'll insult anyone on here.........lol
I think we're being slightly haughty here - what the damn is wrong with FAT people? Being of 36" waist I feel like there is an anti-rotund campaign. Are there any others who are portly and own Banksys? Also, I'm Robbie Williams Don't worry we'll insult anyone on here.........lol |
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 11:31:18 GMT 1,
he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work. [/quote]
You gotta be kidding me right. Banksy didn't produce 170 Marilyn prints and stick them in a gallery because he didn't want to sell them. He is a street artist who produces canvases and prints precisely to sell them. That's why he has an agent and the pieces end up in galleries with price tags on them. But you were joking weren't you.
he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work. [/quote] You gotta be kidding me right. Banksy didn't produce 170 Marilyn prints and stick them in a gallery because he didn't want to sell them. He is a street artist who produces canvases and prints precisely to sell them. That's why he has an agent and the pieces end up in galleries with price tags on them. But you were joking weren't you. |
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 11:41:37 GMT 1, he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work.
You gotta be kidding me right. Banksy didn't produce 170 Marilyn prints and stick them in a gallery because he didn't want to sell them. He is a street artist who produces canvases and prints precisely to sell them. That's why he has an agent and the pieces end up in galleries with price tags on them. But you were joking weren't you. [/quote]
cart before the horse and all that.. he produced one, plus 6 colourways... in effect one piece of work, probably as both a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn..one artist, one great pice of work.
he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work. You gotta be kidding me right. Banksy didn't produce 170 Marilyn prints and stick them in a gallery because he didn't want to sell them. He is a street artist who produces canvases and prints precisely to sell them. That's why he has an agent and the pieces end up in galleries with price tags on them. But you were joking weren't you. [/quote] cart before the horse and all that.. he produced one, plus 6 colourways... in effect one piece of work, probably as both a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn..one artist, one great pice of work. |
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Glad to know Im not crazy 
Bring out one new print about every month.
