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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by alistairkhalil on Aug 8, 2011 20:09:54 GMT 1, all the police need to do is.. make contact with the gangs in hackney, ask for support from the gang leaders to control the situation..
the big time crack dealers in areas like hackney and brixton have the power to send all the youths home.. in an instant.
R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE...
all the police need to do is.. make contact with the gangs in hackney, ask for support from the gang leaders to control the situation..
the big time crack dealers in areas like hackney and brixton have the power to send all the youths home.. in an instant.
R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE...
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by alistairkhalil on Aug 8, 2011 20:10:17 GMT 1,
LARGE UP JODY AND LOGIC.
LARGE UP JODY AND LOGIC.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by alistairkhalil on Aug 8, 2011 20:11:44 GMT 1, R.I.P SMILEY. PLEASE WATCH VIDEO WHO POLICES THE POLICE.. they raise some great points.. they have been working on this since smiley died in custody..
R.I.P SMILEY. PLEASE WATCH VIDEO WHO POLICES THE POLICE.. they raise some great points.. they have been working on this since smiley died in custody..
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by peggy on Aug 8, 2011 20:12:09 GMT 1, ? are youi kidding me sundowner? does cause and effect mean ANYTHING in your world? i dont really want to slam you, but again I AM NOT justifying this. Im pointing out that there is a lot more being played out here, than just people throwing rocks and petrol bombs. If you really seriously cant see that, its a shame. But we wont be looking to you for solutions. just a thought, do you know what this will be written up as? SOCIAL UNREST Do you see the word SOCIAL? Theres a very good reason its there.
EASY WORDS. PEGGY LIVES AT END OF ROAD IN HACKNEY. PEGGY'S OWNER HAS JUST POKED HIS HEAD OUT OF THE DOOR TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON. CONFIRMS IT IS NOT ONLY FUCKING SCARY, BUT ALSO LOCAL YOUTHS, BORED, WHO WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO CAUSE TROUBLE. LOADS RIDING ROUND, COVERING UP, CARRYING BOTTLES, CONVERSATIONS ALONG LINES OF "FEDS IS HERE BRUV COVER UP" THERE IS NOTHING MORE BEING PLAYED OUT THAN LITTLE c**t BEHAVING LIKE LITTLE c**t.
? are youi kidding me sundowner? does cause and effect mean ANYTHING in your world? i dont really want to slam you, but again I AM NOT justifying this. Im pointing out that there is a lot more being played out here, than just people throwing rocks and petrol bombs. If you really seriously cant see that, its a shame. But we wont be looking to you for solutions. just a thought, do you know what this will be written up as? SOCIAL UNREST Do you see the word SOCIAL? Theres a very good reason its there. EASY WORDS. PEGGY LIVES AT END OF ROAD IN HACKNEY. PEGGY'S OWNER HAS JUST POKED HIS HEAD OUT OF THE DOOR TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON. CONFIRMS IT IS NOT ONLY FUCKING SCARY, BUT ALSO LOCAL YOUTHS, BORED, WHO WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO CAUSE TROUBLE. LOADS RIDING ROUND, COVERING UP, CARRYING BOTTLES, CONVERSATIONS ALONG LINES OF "FEDS IS HERE BRUV COVER UP" THERE IS NOTHING MORE BEING PLAYED OUT THAN LITTLE c**t BEHAVING LIKE LITTLE c**t.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by alistairkhalil on Aug 8, 2011 20:14:02 GMT 1, brum is confirmed..
brum is confirmed..
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by xmyart on Aug 8, 2011 20:16:36 GMT 1, Hupster, it means its a result of the bigger social situation, ie all the stuff in my previous post. It has nothing to do with the age range of the rioters.
The media do use words for hype, thats clear to all. The use of the concept of social unrest is however not something that was invented by the media. Again, it requires an understanding and acceptance of the bigger picture.
Hupster, it means its a result of the bigger social situation, ie all the stuff in my previous post. It has nothing to do with the age range of the rioters.
The media do use words for hype, thats clear to all. The use of the concept of social unrest is however not something that was invented by the media. Again, it requires an understanding and acceptance of the bigger picture.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by freeview on Aug 8, 2011 20:17:17 GMT 1, all the police need to do is.. make contact with the gangs in hackney, ask for support from the gang leaders to control the situation.. the big time crack dealers in areas like hackney and brixton have the power to send all the youths home.. in an instant. R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE...
The more you post the more stupid you get
all the police need to do is.. make contact with the gangs in hackney, ask for support from the gang leaders to control the situation.. the big time crack dealers in areas like hackney and brixton have the power to send all the youths home.. in an instant. R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE... The more you post the more stupid you get
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by Sundowner on Aug 8, 2011 20:21:11 GMT 1, ? are youi kidding me sundowner? does cause and effect mean ANYTHING in your world? i dont really want to slam you, but again I AM NOT justifying this. Im pointing out that there is a lot more being played out here, than just people throwing rocks and petrol bombs. If you really seriously cant see that, its a shame. But we wont be looking to you for solutions. just a thought, do you know what this will be written up as? SOCIAL UNREST Do you see the word SOCIAL? Theres a very good reason its there. EASY WORDS. PEGGY LIVES AT END OF ROAD IN HACKNEY. PEGGY'S OWNER HAS JUST POKED HIS HEAD OUT OF THE DOOR TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON. CONFIRMS IT IS NOT ONLY f**kING SCARY, BUT ALSO LOCAL YOUTHS, BORED, WHO WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO CAUSE TROUBLE. LOADS RIDING ROUND, COVERING UP, CARRYING BOTTLES, CONVERSATIONS ALONG LINES OF "FEDS IS HERE BRUV COVER UP" THERE IS NOTHING MORE BEING PLAYED OUT THAN LITTLE c**tS BEHAVING LIKE LITTLE c**tS.
Maybe you could round up some of your doggie friends Peggy and go and bite said little c**ts on the arse.
? are youi kidding me sundowner? does cause and effect mean ANYTHING in your world? i dont really want to slam you, but again I AM NOT justifying this. Im pointing out that there is a lot more being played out here, than just people throwing rocks and petrol bombs. If you really seriously cant see that, its a shame. But we wont be looking to you for solutions. just a thought, do you know what this will be written up as? SOCIAL UNREST Do you see the word SOCIAL? Theres a very good reason its there. EASY WORDS. PEGGY LIVES AT END OF ROAD IN HACKNEY. PEGGY'S OWNER HAS JUST POKED HIS HEAD OUT OF THE DOOR TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON. CONFIRMS IT IS NOT ONLY f**kING SCARY, BUT ALSO LOCAL YOUTHS, BORED, WHO WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO CAUSE TROUBLE. LOADS RIDING ROUND, COVERING UP, CARRYING BOTTLES, CONVERSATIONS ALONG LINES OF "FEDS IS HERE BRUV COVER UP" THERE IS NOTHING MORE BEING PLAYED OUT THAN LITTLE c**tS BEHAVING LIKE LITTLE c**tS. Maybe you could round up some of your doggie friends Peggy and go and bite said little c**ts on the arse.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by hupster on Aug 8, 2011 20:22:40 GMT 1, Hupster, it means its a result of the bigger social situation, ie all the stuff in my previous post. It has nothing to do with the age range of the rioters. The media do use words for hype, thats clear to all. The use of the concept of social unrest is however not something that was invented by the media. Again, it requires an understanding and acceptance of the bigger picture.
DOnt you believe that creating cities create problems. Large amount of people in a small area causes problems. Do we blame false hopes bringing people into cities or do we blame imagration? SHould we be teaching people to look for work outside cities?? Bigger picture i think i may have a little grip on.......
Hupster
Hupster, it means its a result of the bigger social situation, ie all the stuff in my previous post. It has nothing to do with the age range of the rioters. The media do use words for hype, thats clear to all. The use of the concept of social unrest is however not something that was invented by the media. Again, it requires an understanding and acceptance of the bigger picture. DOnt you believe that creating cities create problems. Large amount of people in a small area causes problems. Do we blame false hopes bringing people into cities or do we blame imagration? SHould we be teaching people to look for work outside cities? ? Bigger picture i think i may have a little grip on....... Hupster
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by Sundowner on Aug 8, 2011 20:23:51 GMT 1, Now kicking off in West Croydon........
Now kicking off in West Croydon........
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by xmyart on Aug 8, 2011 20:25:29 GMT 1, Fuckin A1 post ali, there are a few on here that would benefit from seeing that. Something tells me their biased attitude to the world will stop them getting past 1 minute.
Even Paddick is on their telling you even the IPCC is as warped as fuck.
If you dont watch that to the end sundowner, you will lose a very important piece of the puzzle here. go on dude, just for me.
Fuckin A1 post ali, there are a few on here that would benefit from seeing that. Something tells me their biased attitude to the world will stop them getting past 1 minute.
Even Paddick is on their telling you even the IPCC is as warped as fuck.
If you dont watch that to the end sundowner, you will lose a very important piece of the puzzle here. go on dude, just for me.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by fingerz on Aug 8, 2011 20:26:31 GMT 1, 8.23pm: Streets in Croydon are "in complete lockdown" according to the Croydon Guardian.
The paper is running a live blog on disruption in the area. Their reporter Peter Truman writes:
Swarms of youths in hoods and masks are confronting the police from every junction to London Road.
Bricks, bottles and sticks were thrown at the police line, who are armed with batons and riot shields.
Tactical support, in full riot gear, are also on the scene.
The police have set up a sterile zone between the Fox and Hounds pub and North End.
West Croydon station has been shut.
8.20pm: Met police acting commissioner Tim Godwin is speaking outside Scotland Yard.
Godwin urges parents to begin contacting their children. He police to be able to do their job on the streets. He says we are seeing "communities blighted by the actions of a few".
Godwin says police are publishing CCTV footage and other images of those who may be involved in the violence. He urges Londoners to get in touch with police in a bid to identify those involved.
8.23pm: Streets in Croydon are "in complete lockdown" according to the Croydon Guardian.
The paper is running a live blog on disruption in the area. Their reporter Peter Truman writes:
Swarms of youths in hoods and masks are confronting the police from every junction to London Road.
Bricks, bottles and sticks were thrown at the police line, who are armed with batons and riot shields.
Tactical support, in full riot gear, are also on the scene.
The police have set up a sterile zone between the Fox and Hounds pub and North End.
West Croydon station has been shut.
8.20pm: Met police acting commissioner Tim Godwin is speaking outside Scotland Yard.
Godwin urges parents to begin contacting their children. He police to be able to do their job on the streets. He says we are seeing "communities blighted by the actions of a few".
Godwin says police are publishing CCTV footage and other images of those who may be involved in the violence. He urges Londoners to get in touch with police in a bid to identify those involved.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by alistairkhalil on Aug 8, 2011 20:28:50 GMT 1, freeview you have never been a fan.. (I WONDER WHY)
You really shouldnt call people stupid.. its not cool..
R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE...
EDIT: I RAISED A VERY GOOD POINT.. THE POLICE DONT POLICE THESE THUGS, THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEM
HOWEVER THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE AREA WHO DO.. i.e "gangsters" they have the power to send the thugs from the local estates home..
thats not stupd.. thats acutally very very smart.. freeview you hater
freeview you have never been a fan.. (I WONDER WHY)
You really shouldnt call people stupid.. its not cool..
R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE...
EDIT: I RAISED A VERY GOOD POINT.. THE POLICE DONT POLICE THESE THUGS, THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEM
HOWEVER THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE AREA WHO DO.. i.e "gangsters" they have the power to send the thugs from the local estates home..
thats not stupd.. thats acutally very very smart.. freeview you hater
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by xmyart on Aug 8, 2011 20:35:33 GMT 1, DOnt you believe that creating cities create problems. Large amount of people in a small area causes problems. Do we blame false hopes bringing people into cities or do we blame imagration?
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=chat&thread=86348&page=3#ixzz1UT3cnO6s
Mate, are you really not getting that your undermining your arguement by explaining my point and seemingly countering it? The things you list are all part of the issues i mean when im saying social unrest. They are all factors that come together to cause the outcome you are watching!!
DOnt you believe that creating cities create problems. Large amount of people in a small area causes problems. Do we blame false hopes bringing people into cities or do we blame imagration? Read more: urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=chat&thread=86348&page=3#ixzz1UT3cnO6sMate, are you really not getting that your undermining your arguement by explaining my point and seemingly countering it? The things you list are all part of the issues i mean when im saying social unrest. They are all factors that come together to cause the outcome you are watching!!
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by des77 on Aug 8, 2011 20:36:47 GMT 1, freeview you have never been a fan.. (I WONDER WHY) You really shouldnt call people stupid.. its not cool.. R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE... I have never been a fan because I think your an idiot
I used to think the same (no offence ali) but the man talks sense
freeview you have never been a fan.. (I WONDER WHY) You really shouldnt call people stupid.. its not cool.. R.I.P SMILEY CULTURE... I have never been a fan because I think your an idiot I used to think the same (no offence ali) but the man talks sense
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by alistairkhalil on Aug 8, 2011 20:38:55 GMT 1, i wont waste my time with you....
i wont waste my time with you....
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by xmyart on Aug 8, 2011 20:42:21 GMT 1, And i agree, havnt been on ali's side on much else, if anything before this thread. But one word from the people running things up there and a large part of the mob would be gone. But there is no hope of that happening.
And i agree, havnt been on ali's side on much else, if anything before this thread. But one word from the people running things up there and a large part of the mob would be gone. But there is no hope of that happening.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by fingerz on Aug 8, 2011 20:46:21 GMT 1, 8.39pm: As the violence worsened Downing Street said that David Cameron had no plans to cut short his holiday in Tuscany, reports the Guardian's Nick Watt
One source said: "The prime minister is watching it. He is keeping a close eye on it and getting constant updates. Theresa May is back, Boris Johnson is cutting short his holiday and Nick Clegg is in town.
Classic .... lol
8.39pm: As the violence worsened Downing Street said that David Cameron had no plans to cut short his holiday in Tuscany, reports the Guardian's Nick Watt
One source said: "The prime minister is watching it. He is keeping a close eye on it and getting constant updates. Theresa May is back, Boris Johnson is cutting short his holiday and Nick Clegg is in town.
Classic .... lol
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by fingerz on Aug 8, 2011 20:47:17 GMT 1, 8.43pm: Jo Adetunji is in Seven Sisters.
At five lane junction outside the Three Sisters pub a police car just tried to drive down a road blocked by a gang of youths. The windscreen was smashed and pelted with bricks before the driver managed to speed off. Someone screamed that the police car had run a person over but it wasn't the case. Extremely dangerous for any police to go near.
8.43pm: Jo Adetunji is in Seven Sisters.
At five lane junction outside the Three Sisters pub a police car just tried to drive down a road blocked by a gang of youths. The windscreen was smashed and pelted with bricks before the driver managed to speed off. Someone screamed that the police car had run a person over but it wasn't the case. Extremely dangerous for any police to go near.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by alistairkhalil on Aug 8, 2011 20:50:17 GMT 1, freeview YOU SHOULD HAVE A DRINK WITH ME MATE.. im sure you wouldnt be calling me an idiot or stupid.. im in camden all the time. your welcome. i will even buy the beers..
des77 no offence taken...
freeview YOU SHOULD HAVE A DRINK WITH ME MATE.. im sure you wouldnt be calling me an idiot or stupid.. im in camden all the time. your welcome. i will even buy the beers..
des77 no offence taken...
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by fingerz on Aug 8, 2011 20:51:42 GMT 1, 8.50pm: Barry Neild is witnessing worrying scenes in Hackney:
Police officer in riot gear being treated on ground behind police barricade off lower Clapton Road in Hackney. No visible injuries but her ankles were trussed together
Police officer isolated, tripped. Mobbed with bricks and sticks. Colleagues rescued him in about ten seconds.
8.50pm: Barry Neild is witnessing worrying scenes in Hackney:
Police officer in riot gear being treated on ground behind police barricade off lower Clapton Road in Hackney. No visible injuries but her ankles were trussed together
Police officer isolated, tripped. Mobbed with bricks and sticks. Colleagues rescued him in about ten seconds.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by Sundowner on Aug 8, 2011 21:00:27 GMT 1, They need to shut down the messaging services that are broadcasting this info and getting resources.
They need to shut down the messaging services that are broadcasting this info and getting resources.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by xmyart on Aug 8, 2011 21:07:53 GMT 1, Not sure if they can stop the messages without bringing down the mobile network. They wont do that for sure. But you are right, this time!!
Not sure if they can stop the messages without bringing down the mobile network. They wont do that for sure. But you are right, this time!!
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by hupster on Aug 8, 2011 21:10:17 GMT 1, DOnt you believe that creating cities create problems. Large amount of people in a small area causes problems. Do we blame false hopes bringing people into cities or do we blame imagration? Read more: urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=chat&thread=86348&page=3#ixzz1UT3cnO6sMate, are you really not getting that your undermining your arguement by explaining my point and seemingly countering it? The things you list are all part of the issues i mean when im saying social unrest. They are all factors that come together to cause the outcome you are watching!!
OK lets move it forward abit more. SHould we start war on countries that cause problems to the UK or should we all move to CHina after all thats were the money is. Out of interest what part of the world would you like to live in the most?
DOnt you believe that creating cities create problems. Large amount of people in a small area causes problems. Do we blame false hopes bringing people into cities or do we blame imagration? Read more: urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=chat&thread=86348&page=3#ixzz1UT3cnO6sMate, are you really not getting that your undermining your arguement by explaining my point and seemingly countering it? The things you list are all part of the issues i mean when im saying social unrest. They are all factors that come together to cause the outcome you are watching!! OK lets move it forward abit more. SHould we start war on countries that cause problems to the UK or should we all move to CHina after all thats were the money is. Out of interest what part of the world would you like to live in the most?
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by xmyart on Aug 8, 2011 21:11:35 GMT 1, I vote france :-) sorry chyren lol.
I vote france :-) sorry chyren lol.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by Sundowner on Aug 8, 2011 21:12:05 GMT 1, Not sure if they can stop the messages without bringing down the mobile network. They wont do that for sure. But you are right, this time!!
Vodafone's network was down earlier (again) so wouldn't make much difference!
Not sure if they can stop the messages without bringing down the mobile network. They wont do that for sure. But you are right, this time!! Vodafone's network was down earlier (again) so wouldn't make much difference!
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by hupster on Aug 8, 2011 21:14:23 GMT 1, Not sure if they can stop the messages without bringing down the mobile network. They wont do that for sure. But you are right, this time!!
If a state of emergency is called then they can. All communications can be shutdown or controlled.
Not sure if they can stop the messages without bringing down the mobile network. They wont do that for sure. But you are right, this time!! If a state of emergency is called then they can. All communications can be shutdown or controlled.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by xmyart on Aug 8, 2011 21:20:11 GMT 1, hups, i meant they wouldnt do it, due to the problem of leaving people with no way of contacting the emergency services. A large propotion of these people will be living with no landlines due to the way of the mobile and its takeover. For that reason, they would not in this situation bring down the whole network.
It would put more people at risk than it would cause problems for the rioters. The people in charge will take that into account. Thats why i said they wont do it.
hups, i meant they wouldnt do it, due to the problem of leaving people with no way of contacting the emergency services. A large propotion of these people will be living with no landlines due to the way of the mobile and its takeover. For that reason, they would not in this situation bring down the whole network.
It would put more people at risk than it would cause problems for the rioters. The people in charge will take that into account. Thats why i said they wont do it.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by hupster on Aug 8, 2011 21:24:52 GMT 1, hups, i meant they wouldnt do it, due to the problem of leaving people with no way of contacting the emergency services. A large propotion of these people will be living with no landlines due to the way of the mobile and its takeover. For that reason, they would not in this situation bring down the whole network. It would put more people at risk than it would cause problems for the rioters. The people in charge will take that into account. Thats why i said they wont do it.
You can shutdown all networks and landlines and leave 999 open. hence you can make a call from a phone with no sim inside to 999 or make a 999 call with no credit.
hups, i meant they wouldnt do it, due to the problem of leaving people with no way of contacting the emergency services. A large propotion of these people will be living with no landlines due to the way of the mobile and its takeover. For that reason, they would not in this situation bring down the whole network. It would put more people at risk than it would cause problems for the rioters. The people in charge will take that into account. Thats why i said they wont do it. You can shutdown all networks and landlines and leave 999 open. hence you can make a call from a phone with no sim inside to 999 or make a 999 call with no credit.
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TOTTENHAM RIOTS, by des77 on Aug 8, 2011 21:25:43 GMT 1, Looks like the revolution has started, its now in Birmingham.. shops burning
birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com/
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