iamzero
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by iamzero on May 29, 2012 7:23:34 GMT 1, This probably doesnt help too much and MFM won't thank me for it but when working out framing costs the framer usually calculates the cost of materials and then adds 50% to get to the price of the job. So to have spent most of the money already appears strange but maybe still possible.
This probably doesnt help too much and MFM won't thank me for it but when working out framing costs the framer usually calculates the cost of materials and then adds 50% to get to the price of the job. So to have spent most of the money already appears strange but maybe still possible.
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jonti
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by jonti on May 29, 2012 7:35:58 GMT 1, Got an interesting observation that's a neg Your view is too right / left wing that's a neg I've got a tummy upset that's a neg I've no idea what you're talking about that's a neg I'm upset at being negged that's a neg Fundamentally question the thought process behind a piece of street art that's a neg Read a book? That's a neg
I wouldn't have thought any of that would bother you of all people
Got an interesting observation that's a neg Your view is too right / left wing that's a neg I've got a tummy upset that's a neg I've no idea what you're talking about that's a neg I'm upset at being negged that's a neg Fundamentally question the thought process behind a piece of street art that's a neg Read a book? That's a neg I wouldn't have thought any of that would bother you of all people
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Finsbury
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Finsbury on May 29, 2012 7:37:25 GMT 1, I could be wrong, but these look like 2 different prints to me - comparing the signatures from Svenman's photos vs Sixpac's - the signatures dont match.
Good work Sherlock, now onto the who dunnit, with what and in what room...the plot thickens...
I could be wrong, but these look like 2 different prints to me - comparing the signatures from Svenman's photos vs Sixpac's - the signatures dont match. Good work Sherlock, now onto the who dunnit, with what and in what room...the plot thickens...
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RolexDave
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by RolexDave on May 29, 2012 7:37:50 GMT 1, I could be wrong, but these look like 2 different prints to me - comparing the signatures from Svenman's photos vs Sixpac's - the signatures dont match.
Thanks Joe! I can respectfully say that you are wrong, keep rotating your pictures and you will get there, they match. Though putting this into the equation is trying to obscure the point. Trying to put doubt by saying that I have faked pictures. I'm going through all this trouble and heartache on a lie?
What more can I do? Here is Svenmans picture I have taken.
www.flickr.com/photos/79631763@N03/7293023614/in/photostream
Looks OK? Great, but when you go up close, as I have shown in the previous close up shots, you begin to see the damage the print has.
I ask you for the thousanth time Svenman, can I have my print back, please? I dont want a print that looks fine from 5 feet away and when you get up close you can see tape marks around the print.
I could be wrong, but these look like 2 different prints to me - comparing the signatures from Svenman's photos vs Sixpac's - the signatures dont match. Thanks Joe! I can respectfully say that you are wrong, keep rotating your pictures and you will get there, they match. Though putting this into the equation is trying to obscure the point. Trying to put doubt by saying that I have faked pictures. I'm going through all this trouble and heartache on a lie? What more can I do? Here is Svenmans picture I have taken. www.flickr.com/photos/79631763@N03/7293023614/in/photostreamLooks OK? Great, but when you go up close, as I have shown in the previous close up shots, you begin to see the damage the print has. I ask you for the thousanth time Svenman, can I have my print back, please? I dont want a print that looks fine from 5 feet away and when you get up close you can see tape marks around the print.
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Deleted on May 29, 2012 7:38:55 GMT 1, Got an interesting observation that's a neg Your view is too right / left wing that's a neg I've got a tummy upset that's a neg I've no idea what you're talking about that's a negI'm upset at being negged that's a neg Fundamentally question the thought process behind a piece of street art that's a neg Read a book? That's a neg I wouldn't have thought any of that would bother you of all people
That's what's known as a humorous observation, not furrowed brow consternation
Got an interesting observation that's a neg Your view is too right / left wing that's a neg I've got a tummy upset that's a neg I've no idea what you're talking about that's a negI'm upset at being negged that's a neg Fundamentally question the thought process behind a piece of street art that's a neg Read a book? That's a neg I wouldn't have thought any of that would bother you of all people That's what's known as a humorous observation, not furrowed brow consternation
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schnulli
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by schnulli on May 29, 2012 7:47:43 GMT 1, I wouldn't have thought any of that would bother you of all people That's what's known as a humorous observation, not furrowed brow consternation
Humourous observation, that's a neg
I wouldn't have thought any of that would bother you of all people That's what's known as a humorous observation, not furrowed brow consternation Humourous observation, that's a neg
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Deleted on May 29, 2012 7:49:15 GMT 1, That's what's known as a humorous observation, not furrowed brow consternation Humourous observation, that's a neg
Upset people understand the concept of humour that's a neg
That's what's known as a humorous observation, not furrowed brow consternation Humourous observation, that's a neg Upset people understand the concept of humour that's a neg
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Finsbury
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Finsbury on May 29, 2012 8:03:20 GMT 1, I would take this to small claims if the seller refuses to return your print out of principal. Yh its a ball ache but your costs and time would be reimbursed should you win the case and maybe the seller will think twice in the future. Just give him the ultimatum now, 7 days return the print or your going for summons.
I would take this to small claims if the seller refuses to return your print out of principal. Yh its a ball ache but your costs and time would be reimbursed should you win the case and maybe the seller will think twice in the future. Just give him the ultimatum now, 7 days return the print or your going for summons.
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iamzero
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by iamzero on May 29, 2012 8:04:57 GMT 1, I have to agree DD the whole +/- thing for me is kinda childish and should be scrapped it's all too cock rubbing and back stabbing for my liking. But back to the print in question I think the signature is the same one just skewed by the angle a little and small claims isn't that expensive to go through.
I have to agree DD the whole +/- thing for me is kinda childish and should be scrapped it's all too cock rubbing and back stabbing for my liking. But back to the print in question I think the signature is the same one just skewed by the angle a little and small claims isn't that expensive to go through.
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Happy Shopper on May 29, 2012 9:14:29 GMT 1, Clearly, CLEARLY, the same print. Just looking at the pictures, the damage is obvious from the from front or the back and not Mint by any stretch. If either side is unhappy then they should be swapped back.
Clearly, CLEARLY, the same print. Just looking at the pictures, the damage is obvious from the from front or the back and not Mint by any stretch. If either side is unhappy then they should be swapped back.
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barryh
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by barryh on May 29, 2012 9:27:01 GMT 1, Clearly, CLEARLY, the same print. Just looking at the pictures, the damage is obvious from the from front or the back and not Mint by any stretch. If either side is unhappy then they should be swapped back.
I agree, trade back and put an end to all of this
Clearly, CLEARLY, the same print. Just looking at the pictures, the damage is obvious from the from front or the back and not Mint by any stretch. If either side is unhappy then they should be swapped back. I agree, trade back and put an end to all of this
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Happy Shopper on May 29, 2012 9:31:36 GMT 1, Although... That is a lovely example of that print. Those Musk's vary quite a bit and I LOVE that one. I'd be very tempted to get a quote for repair and take Svenman up on his offer !
(What's the name of the print repairers near Old Street? Mixed reviews on here, but I'd give it a go!)
Although... That is a lovely example of that print. Those Musk's vary quite a bit and I LOVE that one. I'd be very tempted to get a quote for repair and take Svenman up on his offer !
(What's the name of the print repairers near Old Street? Mixed reviews on here, but I'd give it a go!)
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Deleted on May 29, 2012 9:38:46 GMT 1, I've tried to align the edges of the paper - blended both the prints over each, so make up your own minds
I've tried to align the edges of the paper - blended both the prints over each, so make up your own minds
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barryh
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by barryh on May 29, 2012 9:42:59 GMT 1, BarryH & Happyshopper - you both need to go to specsavers - you can buy 2 for the price of 1
Not sure how that is relevant to me saying trade back if both people are not happy with the prints
BarryH & Happyshopper - you both need to go to specsavers - you can buy 2 for the price of 1 Not sure how that is relevant to me saying trade back if both people are not happy with the prints
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Deleted on May 29, 2012 9:46:00 GMT 1, Apologies then BarryH, i thought you agreed wih HS in his statement that the 2 photos are of the same print. I will amend my comment accordingly
Apologies then BarryH, i thought you agreed wih HS in his statement that the 2 photos are of the same print. I will amend my comment accordingly
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brooksie82
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by brooksie82 on May 29, 2012 10:07:21 GMT 1, Personally, if you're worried about the back side of the print, you're pretty retarded in my opinion.... its the BACK for fucks sake!
Personally, if you're worried about the back side of the print, you're pretty retarded in my opinion.... its the BACK for fucks sake!
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brooksie82
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by brooksie82 on May 29, 2012 10:08:58 GMT 1, I've tried to align the edges of the paper - blended both the prints over each, so make up your own minds
Someones playing silly buggers!
I've tried to align the edges of the paper - blended both the prints over each, so make up your own minds Someones playing silly buggers!
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svenman
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by svenman on May 29, 2012 10:12:40 GMT 1, just for the record, i'm keeping my communications with sixpac private as suggested by wearology. sixpac continues not to tell the full story here though, but i'll leave that to them. two different paths of resolution have been offered by me in an attempt to resolve mutually. also for the record, i've not told any lies either here on via email. i'm still hoping that this can be worked out between myself and sixpac. thanks for messages of support from those who know i'm genuine.
just for the record, i'm keeping my communications with sixpac private as suggested by wearology. sixpac continues not to tell the full story here though, but i'll leave that to them. two different paths of resolution have been offered by me in an attempt to resolve mutually. also for the record, i've not told any lies either here on via email. i'm still hoping that this can be worked out between myself and sixpac. thanks for messages of support from those who know i'm genuine.
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RolexDave
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by RolexDave on May 29, 2012 10:19:22 GMT 1, just for the record, i'm keeping my communications with sixpac private as suggested by wearology. sixpac continues not to tell the full story here though, but i'll leave that to them. two different paths of resolution have been offered by me in an attempt to resolve mutually. also for the record, i've not told any lies either here on via email. i'm still hoping that this can be worked out between myself and sixpac. thanks for messages of support from those who know i'm genuine.
Thanks Svenman,
I can have the print back if I pay your ยฃ212 framing costs thanks.
You are right though going through this publically has its pros and cons.
I think the right thing to do now is let a neutral party decide in a county court.
just for the record, i'm keeping my communications with sixpac private as suggested by wearology. sixpac continues not to tell the full story here though, but i'll leave that to them. two different paths of resolution have been offered by me in an attempt to resolve mutually. also for the record, i've not told any lies either here on via email. i'm still hoping that this can be worked out between myself and sixpac. thanks for messages of support from those who know i'm genuine. Thanks Svenman, I can have the print back if I pay your ยฃ212 framing costs thanks. You are right though going through this publically has its pros and cons. I think the right thing to do now is let a neutral party decide in a county court.
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iamzero
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by iamzero on May 29, 2012 10:19:58 GMT 1, Perhaps it is the principle of the item being sold as mint when clearly not and as mentioned in a previous post about damage to a print you know it's there whether you can see it or not and simply ruins the image every time you look at it?
Perhaps it is the principle of the item being sold as mint when clearly not and as mentioned in a previous post about damage to a print you know it's there whether you can see it or not and simply ruins the image every time you look at it?
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by They call me Stephen on May 29, 2012 10:25:04 GMT 1, For the cost and bother of small claims along with the fact that it can pretty much be ignored by whoever you serve against why not let Svenman pay to get your print restored. It would look good as new and you would both have the print you originally wanted - considering you still want that Bast image??
Graham Bignell is your man and he can work wonders.
For the cost and bother of small claims along with the fact that it can pretty much be ignored by whoever you serve against why not let Svenman pay to get your print restored. It would look good as new and you would both have the print you originally wanted - considering you still want that Bast image??
Graham Bignell is your man and he can work wonders.
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barryh
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by barryh on May 29, 2012 10:25:18 GMT 1, I dont know you personally, but you dont come across like you are out to rip someone off here. Im not sure how long this was going on before it was made public, but I presume it hasnt made the situation any better
just for the record, i'm keeping my communications with sixpac private as suggested by wearology. sixpac continues not to tell the full story here though, but i'll leave that to them. two different paths of resolution have been offered by me in an attempt to resolve mutually. also for the record, i've not told any lies either here on via email. i'm still hoping that this can be worked out between myself and sixpac. thanks for messages of support from those who know i'm genuine.
I dont know you personally, but you dont come across like you are out to rip someone off here. Im not sure how long this was going on before it was made public, but I presume it hasnt made the situation any better just for the record, i'm keeping my communications with sixpac private as suggested by wearology. sixpac continues not to tell the full story here though, but i'll leave that to them. two different paths of resolution have been offered by me in an attempt to resolve mutually. also for the record, i've not told any lies either here on via email. i'm still hoping that this can be worked out between myself and sixpac. thanks for messages of support from those who know i'm genuine.
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Layaway Days Art Blog on May 29, 2012 10:29:00 GMT 1, The only thing that I do not get, is why the email stating it had arrived intact? Obviously the print had issues, did you just respond without examining what was in the tube?
The only thing that I do not get, is why the email stating it had arrived intact? Obviously the print had issues, did you just respond without examining what was in the tube?
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Happy Shopper on May 29, 2012 10:51:16 GMT 1, Apologies then BarryH, i thought you agreed wih HS in his statement that the 2 photos are of the same print. I will amend my comment accordingly
Cannot believe I actually took the time to do this, but as you're such a knob about it, I thought I would. Perhaps take a photoshop course !?
Apologies then BarryH, i thought you agreed wih HS in his statement that the 2 photos are of the same print. I will amend my comment accordingly Cannot believe I actually took the time to do this, but as you're such a knob about it, I thought I would. Perhaps take a photoshop course !?
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poppa
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by poppa on May 29, 2012 11:04:03 GMT 1, These are definitely the same print. Just looking at them side by side tells you that. Not sure where you're going with this Joe but you are 100% wrong!
These are definitely the same print. Just looking at them side by side tells you that. Not sure where you're going with this Joe but you are 100% wrong!
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by mrblast on May 29, 2012 12:08:26 GMT 1, regardless of the dispute that print is awesome btw. What's the name of it?
regardless of the dispute that print is awesome btw. What's the name of it?
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by gwhit on May 29, 2012 12:51:03 GMT 1, i assume you sent it in a tube?. How do you roll a print without seeing a little onf the back? Tissue paper?
i assume you sent it in a tube?. How do you roll a print without seeing a little onf the back? Tissue paper?
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Dr Plip
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Dr Plip on May 29, 2012 12:59:32 GMT 1, regardless of the dispute that print is awesome btw. What's the name of it?
It might be for sale if you're interested?
regardless of the dispute that print is awesome btw. What's the name of it? It might be for sale if you're interested?
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by Deleted on May 29, 2012 13:18:56 GMT 1, Apologies then BarryH, i thought you agreed wih HS in his statement that the 2 photos are of the same print. I will amend my comment accordingly Cannot believe I actually took the time to do this, but as you're such a knob about it, I thought I would. Perhaps take a photoshop course !?
Dont be a plid - use this photo, and see if you get the same smart a**e results
(photo taken from sixpacs photostream)
Apologies then BarryH, i thought you agreed wih HS in his statement that the 2 photos are of the same print. I will amend my comment accordingly Cannot believe I actually took the time to do this, but as you're such a knob about it, I thought I would. Perhaps take a photoshop course !? Dont be a plid - use this photo, and see if you get the same smart a**e results (photo taken from sixpacs photostream)
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What Can I do? Trade Gone Bad!, by xmyart on May 29, 2012 13:28:50 GMT 1, Definatly the same print. Joe that picture has a completly distorted perspective, based on the angle its taken from and also the roll on the paper where its not been laid flat for the picture.
Definatly the same print. Joe that picture has a completly distorted perspective, based on the angle its taken from and also the roll on the paper where its not been laid flat for the picture.
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